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flag road-psyclist
Posted: Mar 4, 2012 at 18:42 Quote
Welcome to road bike weight game info and discussion thread. This is for weight watchers, but be aware, it'll violate your bank account when you spend to make your bike lighter.

All the components listed for road (in relevance to this thread) HERE.

All parts listed are mostly expensive, but there are cheaper alternatives, so enquire within the thread.

-Post your projects.

-Seek advice, whether rich or on a budget.

-Suggest new parts to add to the list!

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-EASIEST WAYS TO DROP WEIGHT- (In order of price low to high)

There are ways to drop weight off of your bike. But your frame is an important factor when it comes to doing this. You don't have to spend a lot of money on a road frame if you look around. A lot of alloy frames are 1500grams nowadays, such as Kinesis. I point out Kinesis as I have experience with their frames, which are low cost for the weight.

If money is no object, you have all of the options available to make a light weight bike.


1) Bolts are an easy and cheap option to save weight, but they'll only drop an insignificant amount, they should be used with another component, unless your bike is ont he scales to being light as is.

2) Headset spacers are another option. Especially carbon spacers, or CNC'd alloy spacers. These can also be used in the same terms as bolts.

3) Stems can be a cheap upgrade to save weight and you can get cheap ones which are alloy, or even carbon.

4) Tyres and tubes are a cheap option, but you have to sacrifice puncture protection with proper tyres. Latex tubes are lighter by a good margin, but again, you'll have no puncture protection.

5) Chains are various prices, but also another way of dropping a few grams. You need to be looking at high end chains like Dura Ace etc. for decent, light chains.

6) Bottom Brackets prices can vary, but you can spend a half decent amount and lose a good lot of grams by changing to an expensive one, also giving you more durability.

7) A saddle/seat can help too. Lighter, thinner saddles, like Fizik can be acquired for a fair amount, but will be more comfortable on long rides.

8) Pedals are an expensive component when you want light weight, but remember you pay for quality.

9) Seatpost is a good weight saving option, I'd recommend carbon, as it soften road buzz (road vibrations) YOu can acquire a good and light seatpost for around £/$50-70.

10) Bars which are recommended by me to be carbon retail in the £/$100+ price mark, but are worth it in the long run. Cheaper ones flex, and should be avoided.

11) Brakes go into a pretty expensive price range when you want decent power with light weight. You can get low priced light ones like Planet X CNC versions with Swissstop pads for a good price.

12) Crankset is an expensive component, but if you have the money, go for a carbon one, like SRAM Force, although alloy ones can be just as good.

13) Fork You need to spend a good amount on a fork for low weight in today's world, but you can pay under £100 if you want one which is light around 550+ gram mark.

14) Wheels probably on of the most expensive upgrade, but also can be low cost depending on how light you want to go.

15) Groupsets are an expensive upgrade too, which is why I put this last. You will be paying a good amount for a lightweight groupset, but anything in the 105,Veloce,Apex range can be a good weight, but ranges around £/$500+


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-LIGHT WEIGHT MANUFACTURERS-

AX-Lightness

-WEIGHT WEENIE PARTS INFO -

FORKS

Easton EC90 SL - 349grams

Easton EC90 SL Taper - 380grams

Easton EC70 - 530grams

Controltech Lightning - 355grams

Ritchey WCS UD Carbon - 299grams

Ritchey Pro Carbon - 345grams

3T Funda - 344 grams

3T Rigida -285 grams

Ratio Astrum - 370grams

Pro Lite Grande - 382grams

Pro Lite Giralba - 520grams

PZ Racing CR8.1F - 435grams

PZ Racing CR4.1F - 320grams

Kinesis Attack - 360grams

Kinesis Energy - 520grams

WHEELS
(Weight as pair) *Top two wheels which are listed only. Go to their website for more wheels*

American Classic Magnesium Clincher - 1108 grams

American Classic Road Tubeless - 1179 grams

Campagnolo Neutron - 1470 grams

Campagnolo Hyperon Ultra Two Clincher 1345 grams

Controltech Auster - 1246 grams

Controltech Comp RM38 - 1448 grams

Corima Aero + MCC - 1080 grams

Corima Winium - 1150 grams

DT Swiss RR 1450 mon Chasseral - 1486 grams

DT Swiss RR 1600 TL - 1628 grams

Easton EC90 SLX - 1250-grams

Easton EC90 SL 28mm Clincher - 1530grams

FFWDF2R WITH FFWD HUBS - 1100 grams

FFWD F4R WITH FFWD HUBS - 1250 grams

FSA K-Force Carbon Tubular - 1390 grams

FSA SLK Tubular- 1450 grams

Fulcrum Racing Light XLR Tubular - 1226 grams

Fulcrum Racing Light XLR Clincher - 1345 grams

Lightweight Obermayer - 990 grams

Lightweight Standard - 1100 grams

Mavic - Cosmic Carbone Ultimate 1185 grams)

Mavic Cosmic Carbone SLR - 1595 grams

Miche Supertype 358 RS - 1215 grams

Miche Supertype 558 RS - 1296 grams

Pro Lite Gavia P55 50mm/50mm Tubular - 1684 grams

Pro Lite P33 38mm/38mm Full Carbon - 1724 grams

P Z Racing CR3.1W - 1566 grams

P Z Racing CR2.3W - 1560 grams

Reynolds RZR 46 - 968 grams

Reynolds RZR 46 Team - 1185 grams

Shimano Dura Ace WH-7900-C50-CL - 1396 grams

Shimano Dura Ace WH-7900-C50-CL - 1396 grams

SRAM S60 - 1850 grams

SRAM S30 AL Gold - 1415 grams

Token T50LC - 1280 grams

Token T50S - 1490 grams

Vision TriMax Carbon TC24 - 1250 grams

Vision TriMax Carbon TC50 - 1490 grams

Zipp 202 Tubular - 1099 grams

Zipp 303 Firecrest Carbon Clincher - 1498g grams

HUBS
(Front and rear listed; Front 1st Rear 2nd)

SOUL-Kozak - 51grams

SOUL-Kozak - 168grams

Shimano Dura-Ace - 118grams

Shimano Dura Ace - 257grams

Campagnolo Super Record - 116grams

Campagnolo Super Record - 231grams

American Classic micro - 58grams

American Classic - 205grams

TYRES
(Note that sizes vary, therefore weights vary. Also these are Clincher tyres)

Mavic Aksion - 240grams

Mavic Yksion GripLink - 215grams

Michelin Pro 3 - 200grams

Michelin Pro4 200grams

Schwalbe Ultremo ZLX - 160grams

Vittoria Diamante Pro Light - 170grams

Vittoria Corsa Evo - 245grams

Continental Grand Prix 4000S - 205grams

IRC Redstorm Street - 205grams

INNER TUBES
(Sizes vary, meaning weights do too)

Michelin Latex - 75grams onwards.

Vittoria Latex - 72 grams onwards.

SEAT POSTS
(Sizes vary)

3T Palladio Team - 197grams

Easton EC90 Zero - 175grams

Van Nicolas Titanium - 224grams

Thomson Masterpiece Setback - 192grams

Pro Vibe Carbon - 162grams

New Ultimate Alloy CNC - 144grams

Specialized S Works Pave SL - 198grams

KCNC SC Pro LIte Scaqndium - 169grams

American Classic - 194grams

BRAKES

KCNC CB1 - 164grams

Planet X Ultra Light FORGED - 225grams

Planet X Ultra Light CNC - 230 grams

SRAM Red - 265grams

SRAM Force - 280grams

Shimano Dura Ace - 317grams

Shimano Ultegra - 317grams

Campagnolo Super Record - 290grams

Campagnolo Record - 282grams

BRAKE LEVERS

SRAM Red - 280grams

SRAM Force - 302g

Shimano Dura Ace - 445grams

Shimano Ultegra - 313grams

Campagnolo Super Record - 330grams

Campagnolo Record - 210grams

Microshift Arsis - 380grams

FRONT DERAILLEURS
(Will depend on braze on and clamp size etc.)

SRAM Red - 58grams

SRAM Force - 88grams

Shimano Dura Ace - 89grams

Shimano Ultegra - 89 grams

Campagnolo Super Record - 72grams

Campagnolo Record - 74grams

REAR DERAILLEURS

SRAM Red - 153 grams

SRAM Force - 174 grams

Shimano Dura Ace -190grams

Shimano Ultegra - 190 grams

Campagnolo Super Record - 173 grams

Campagnolo Record - 179 grams

SADDLES

Fizik Arione CX - 205grams

Fizik Arione : 225grams

Selle Italiia SLR - 155grams

Selle Italia Flite - 190grams

San Marco Concor Carbon FX - 160grams

San Marco Concor Racing - 184grams

AX Lightness Phoenix Carbon Saddle - 58grams

STEMS
(Weights vary in size)

Moots Open Road - 148grams

Easton EC90 SL - 110grams

Deda ZeroNero Carbon -145grams

Ritchey WCS C260° Carbon Matrix - 105grams

Bontrager Race XXX Lite OS Road - 105grams

HANDLEBARS
(Weights vary by size)

3T Ergonova Team black - 198grams

Ritchey WCS Carbon Evo - 220grams

FSA K-Force Nano Compact - 189grams


CHAINSETS
(Note: Weights vary and may not be accurate as BB,crank arm length, chainrings i.e compact and triple etc. are sometimes included)

FSA K Force - 553grams onwards.

FSA SLK - 580 grams onwards

SRAM Red - 750grams

SRAM Force - 791grams

Shimano Dura Ace - 785grams

Shimano Ultegra - 785 grams

Campagnolo Super Record - 675grams

Campagnolo Record - 650grams

Pro Lite Savona - 172.5mm - 562g (Right side) / 216g (Left side)

Pro LIte Siena - 170mm - 578grams(Right side) / 258grams (Left side)

Controltech Gale - 660grams

Controltech White Shield - 685grams

Fulcrum Racing Torq RRS - 699grams

Fulcrum Racing Torq RS - 751grams

Fulcrum Racing Torq R - 699grams

HEADSETS

***Needs Somebodies Info***

CASSETTES

SRAM Red - 155-166grams

SRAM PG1070 - 210grams

Shimano Dura Ace - 208grams

Shimano Ultegra - 208grams

Campagnolo Super Record - 177grams

Campagnolo Record - 201grams


CHAINS

SRAM Red - 255grams

SRAM PC1091 - 265grams

Shimano Dura Ace - 267grams

Shimano Ultegra - 267grams

Campagnolo Super Record - 255grams

Campagnolo Record - 255grams

KMC X10SL - 240grams

YBN SL210G Titanium - 210grams

Connex 9tr Titanium - 235g

YBN SFL Titanium - 210grams

PEDALS

Mavic Race SL Ti - 110grams

Mavic Race - 130grams

Speedplay X-1 Titanium: 150g
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flag jimbo33000
Posted: Mar 6, 2012 at 16:54 Quote
Glad to the Arsis up there! (dont feel left out lol mine were 351g BTW )
a few suggestions (too lazy for a bunch):

hubs:
-american classic micro 58 (58g grams...duh) and road 205
Tires:
-IRC redstorm street: 205g
Saddles:
AX-Lightness phoenix carbon saddle: 58g (WANT!!!!!)
pedals:
Speedplay x-1 Ti: 150g

and if you want to complete the arsis group, mine were: R mech: 173g F mech: 91g
flag road-psyclist
Posted: Mar 6, 2012 at 16:58 Quote
Thanks, I'll add those to the list. I'm still making the list, just having breaks in between lol
flag Burial
Posted: Mar 9, 2012 at 9:26 Quote
are these claimed or actual weights?

and I dont understand where you got 8kg from, from the table above?
flag road-psyclist
Posted: Mar 9, 2012 at 9:27 Quote
They're claimed, so it could be a little lighter or even heavier when finished.
flag road-psyclist
Posted: Mar 9, 2012 at 9:32 Quote
Burial wrote:
and I dont understand where you got 8kg from, from the table above?

Well, the bike weighs 10700grams.

-The weight on the left will be the new groupset weight and the right is the stock groupset weight.

-8082 take away 5191 = 2891.

10700 take away 2891 = 7809 .

EDIT: New weight up now, but that's how you do it^.
flag road-psyclist
Posted: May 3, 2012 at 11:51 Quote
Anyone think I can get my Giant Defy 4 (23lbs/11kilos in weight at the moment) down to a good weight with a good pair of wheels and parts? I'm thinking of keeping the 105 deraileurs as they're light enough. Maybe a D.A cassette etc.

Now I'm single, I'll have a lot more cash to spend on myself, so I'm going to spend a good bit of money to make my bike light.
flag jimbo33000
Posted: May 3, 2012 at 12:06 Quote
Just left you a comment but here is a list:
Aim for 1500g wheels or so
replace the 1200+g fork with something under 400g
no need to drop cash on a dura-ace cassette 105 or ultegra should be fine for now
Light crankset would be helpful
Tires are huge
stem/post/bars/saddle all adds up a lot

Wheels would save 1950g (if they are indeed as heavy as that spec sheet you have claims)
fork would save about 850g
thats 2800g or about 6lbs lost just for those two
flag jimbo33000
Posted: May 3, 2012 at 14:52 Quote
I say build wheels and save some cash....light hubs on IRD cadence rims and dt competition spoke (14/15 butted) should be pretty damn light and affordable, plus with the right spoke count will hold up to training miles and you can still race them if you dont want to buy a seperate race set.

Definitely replace the seatpost with something that isnt an anchor
Stem: Go with the syntace F99 (99g if you swap for Ti bolts)
Bars: I like alloy, not carbon. So I'll suggest what I ride; syntace racelite 7075 (220-230g dependent on size)
Dont go for the spoon...Try fizik or selle italia, there are some very light, yet very comfy saddles out there
I also say get something lighter than that 500g giant fork...some of the ebay carbon ones are very affordable and 380g uncut (claimed) or you can search around and aim lower if you have the cash (Scott has some light forks you could sand the paint off of and clear coat too)
Aim for 250g about on a training tire
The stock headset probably isnt too weight conscious either



Then the small things add up for weight...cages, skewers, expander, pads etc. are good final touches to bring the weight down
flag road-psyclist
Posted: May 4, 2012 at 2:05 Quote
Thanks a bunch! I'll bookmark all of those parts on my computer.

On the note of a fork. It's Giant Overdrive which I have only found the same steerer size made by Flyxi, but, it's a Pinarello replica fork.
flag jimbo33000
Posted: May 4, 2012 at 10:43 Quote
whats the taper size on the steerer?
flag road-psyclist
Posted: May 4, 2012 at 10:51 Quote
1 ¼-inch bottom/1 1⁄8-inch top tapered steerer-tube. I heard you can get headset reducers or something?
flag road-psyclist
Posted: May 4, 2012 at 11:02 Quote
Hmm, I might just get a Giant fork. I am weight conscious but don't mind a little extra weight.
flag road-psyclist
Posted: May 17, 2012 at 8:06 Quote
James, do you know of any popular rims (but most importantly) sold in the U.K? I can't find any of the rims you suggested before here and don't want to mess around with customs/pay silly money for tracked items from abroad.

I'm getting some Hope Pro3 Monos as hubs as someone I know is selling them cheap, so I'm sorted there.
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