Hey everyone I need a little help as far as building a DJ goes. A local shop is going to build me on my budget but wants to know what kind of components I'd like as well as geometry guidelines so he can find me a suitable frame. This is where I need help. My loose specifications I want are as follows:
26' Single speed (1/2 link chain) Rear disc brake (hydraulic or mechanical?) Horizontal dropouts Solid frame Solid wheelsets
An average front fork would be fine, loc-out preferred but not necessary, I just want a really solid and decently light DJ. As far as geometry specifications I have no idea. I think I'd be best suited with a medium frame though, I'm 5'9" 160lbs.
If anyone has any advice as far as components (been looking at Diety, Atomlab, etc...) or frames (been looking at Scott Voltage, Specialized P 1 & 2, BlackMrkt, etc...) it would be greatly appreciated.
The Specialized P series are probably the best value for features. I would advise against a half link chain. The general oppinions seem to be negative. I would go for a complete build, then you know the parts all work well together. Try NS bikes, Specialized P series, DMR completes. Ild go on chainreactioncycles.com and see whats there for your budget.
The Specialized P series are probably the best value for features. I would advise against a half link chain. The general oppinions seem to be negative. I would go for a complete build, then you know the parts all work well together. Try NS bikes, Specialized P series, DMR completes. Ild go on chainreactioncycles.com and see whats there for your budget.
Hey thanks a lot! Found a few NS bikes, probably going to go with the Metropolis 2. Still looking though, wasn't trying to spend more than $800 but it's not too far from it at $1200.
If you go with ns. I would get a holy 1 it cost a bit more than 800. $937.10 to be exact It is a full cro-mo frame with integrated headset and has a sick geo. it comes with a rigid fork though. But you can upgrade later to a way better fork than what comes on the metro. They do have a holy 2 that is a lot cheaper at $788.36 but its not a full cro-mo and has a external headset but has the same geo. How strong the holy 2 is I have no idea. But the holy 1 is up there with their premium frames as for quality . Holy 1
If you go with ns. I would get a holy 1 it cost a bit more than 800. $937.10 to be exact It is a full cro-mo frame with integrated headset and has a sick geo. it comes with a rigid fork though. But you can upgrade later to a way better fork than what comes on the metro. They do have a holy 2 that is a lot cheaper at $788.36 but its not a full cro-mo and has a external headset but has the same geo. How strong the holy 2 is I have no idea. But the holy 1 is up there with their premium frames as for quality . Holy 1
Holy 2
Sweet thanks a lot! Yeah I'm looking for a good base so the Holy 1 looks good to me. You're right I can get a fork later I suppose.
Its always a great choice I think. Because with the down time a suspension fork can give you in between parts and service of any brand . Having a rigid for a back up makes life sooo sweet. You can hit up parks and ride street till the fork gets serviced . Or if you gain skills you will just keep it rigid . A rigid on bmx style trails works great as thats what I am running now. I basically run suspension for hardtail slope trails where its really needed. Rigids also train you to ride correctly as so you do not count on the suspension all the time making you a more skilled rider . Once you get the suspension fork for it you will find you have an even better control over the bike .
Its always a great choice I think. Because with the down time a suspension fork can give you in between parts and service of any brand . Having a rigid for a back up makes life sooo sweet. You can hit up parks and ride street till the fork gets serviced . Or if you gain skills you will just keep it rigid . A rigid on bmx style trails works great as thats what I am running now. I basically run suspension for hardtail slope trails where its really needed. Rigids also train you to ride correctly as so you do not count on the suspension all the time making you a more skilled rider . Once you get the suspension fork for it you will find you have an even better control over the bike .
Wow, never thought of either of those two points you made, very wise. Thanks a lot, definitely looking into getting this bike now.
One more thing: do you have any recommendations as far as forks go? Opinions on lockout feature?
If for dj and street lock out is some thing thats not really needed. You will set your fork to the way you like it firm or plush. I ride firm . My friend Andy rides his plush. The only dj fork that I know of that runs a lock out is the circus . and even those that own it just run it on the firm side never using the lock out option. with a dj fork its mostly like a rigid and the sus comes on when most needed . Lock out is mostly for XC riders that like the fork not to compress when the pedal up hills making it easier for them to climb
If for dj and street lock out is some thing thats not really needed. You will set your fork to the way you like it firm or plush. I ride firm . My friend Andy rides his plush. The only dj fork that I know of that runs a lock out is the circus . and even those that own it just run it on the firm side never using the lock out option. with a dj fork its mostly like a rigid and the sus comes on when most needed . Lock out is mostly for XC riders that like the fork not to compress when the pedal up hills making it easier for them to climb
Ah okay I was wondering. I really am taking to your comment about the rigid fork, I think I'm going to go with the Holy 1 or something similar and get a decent fork later. The dirt jumping I will primarily be doing is a very smooth and well crafted slope-style area, and other than that I'll just be doing a little street, so nothing to hard hitting to need suspension for anyway. Plus like you said, I'll handle the bike much better once I get the fork from having ridden the rigid for a while. Thanks for all your help again!!
P.S. If you look at my videos in my profile, that's me on my 20' Walmart bike at the DJ's I'll be riding, and then that black MTB is a friend I met there who after seeing me ride a little felt comfortable letting me take his for a spin. This confirmed my desire to get a DJ. Just trying to get the best base I can though because I'm starting tricks and whatnot now so yeah, some falls are in my near future, and the 20" Walmart bike's not cuttin' it anymore lol.
If you look at BTI-USA.com or other distributors, you can see what parts bike shops can order.
Mechanical disc like Avid BB7 work great. IMO hydraulic are overkill.
You may want to consider a complete Blackmarket or Atomlab.
Awesome thanks a lot. I'll definitely look into that. I have a local shop wanting to build a bike for me so if I don't end up getting the Holy 1 as mentioned above I'll definitely tell him to put these brakes on it.
If for dj and street lock out is some thing thats not really needed. You will set your fork to the way you like it firm or plush. I ride firm . My friend Andy rides his plush. The only dj fork that I know of that runs a lock out is the circus . and even those that own it just run it on the firm side never using the lock out option. with a dj fork its mostly like a rigid and the sus comes on when most needed . Lock out is mostly for XC riders that like the fork not to compress when the pedal up hills making it easier for them to climb
Ah okay I was wondering. I really am taking to your comment about the rigid fork, I think I'm going to go with the Holy 1 or something similar and get a decent fork later. The dirt jumping I will primarily be doing is a very smooth and well crafted slope-style area, and other than that I'll just be doing a little street, so nothing to hard hitting to need suspension for anyway. Plus like you said, I'll handle the bike much better once I get the fork from having ridden the rigid for a while. Thanks for all your help again!!
P.S. If you look at my videos in my profile, that's me on my 20' Walmart bike at the DJ's I'll be riding, and then that black MTB is a friend I met there who after seeing me ride a little felt comfortable letting me take his for a spin. This confirmed my desire to get a DJ. Just trying to get the best base I can though because I'm starting tricks and whatnot now so yeah, some falls are in my near future, and the 20" Walmart bike's not cuttin' it anymore lol.
Haha yeah . I remember like a few years back I jumped on my kids walmart special edition mongoose when they had the good ones. Got me back into the whole biking seen. Thought bmx was a bit too small though and still is to me . went 26 then 24 now. Will go back to 26 next year though when I master the 24
If you go with ns. I would get a holy 1 it cost a bit more than 800. $937.10 to be exact It is a full cro-mo frame with integrated headset and has a sick geo. it comes with a rigid fork though. But you can upgrade later to a way better fork than what comes on the metro. They do have a holy 2 that is a lot cheaper at $788.36 but its not a full cro-mo and has a external headset but has the same geo. How strong the holy 2 is I have no idea. But the holy 1 is up there with their premium frames as for quality . Holy 1
Holy 2
Hey there again, I wanted to ask your opinion if you didn't mind. The shop that's trying to find me a bike showed me this one and I wanted someone else's opinion before I settle on it. http://www.easternbikes.com/products/completes/2012/106 It looks like a pretty nice bike to me..(FYI when bought in the US it doesn't come with front brakes). Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks!
pretty sick bike. And eastern has one great warranty service. If its easier for you to get that one I would say go for it . How much are they asking . I know I wanted one off jenson but it was kid of up there in price .
pretty sick bike. And eastern has one great warranty service. If its easier for you to get that one I would say go for it . How much are they asking . I know I wanted one off jenson but it was kid of up there in price .
Yeah I was looking at that warranty, looks really good. The prices aren't listed obviously but my local shop contacted them and told me he could get the Maddog for $649.99 and the Thunderbird for $979.95 (same price on Jenson). I was going to go for the Thunderbird because it has a more solid frame and better forks, yes it's pretty expensive but I feel like if I go for the cheaper option of the Maddog I'll regret it down the road years later when I'm replacing parts and possibly a frame. If the Thunderbird is going to last me longer I have no problem paying for the durability.
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. Once you get the suspension fork for it you will find you have an even better control over the bike . 
