heyia, me and my friend who has been riding bmx + downhil for some time are planing to get some street mtb bikes. something like this : https://vimeo.com/24573677 or https://vimeo.com/8115913 we couldnt find any 24 wheeled ones up for sale (and cheap enough) from were we are. so those are our choises for now: for me its a p1 2011 frame with atomlab laced on atomlab wheel in the back fun fat boy bars, specialized p1 2010 wheel in the front, specialized p1 2011 (new) forks and thats it i think, weights 12 kg (light, right?) pic : http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/1439/getresizeimage.jpg
and for my friend it is most likely these, http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=68234 (used ones)
we are both about 1.75 meters tall and was wondering what do you guys have to say, are those too big? will it be hard (lol)? are those even any good?
well i can't recommend any of the bikes since i haven't ridden any of them...
but the reason i changed from 26" to 24":
i'm not saying it's going to happen with every bike out there (there are million combinations of parts after all) but when it does happen, it sucks.
so if you end up going for a 26" position the cranks in parallel to the ground and try spinning the bars 360° and see if the wheel gets blocked by the pedals like in the picture.
its really a personal preference, just ride the bike, see how it feels.
well i can't recommend any of the bikes since i haven't ridden any of them...
but the reason i changed from 26" to 24":
i'm not saying it's going to happen with every bike out there (there are million combinations of parts after all) but when it does happen, it sucks.
so if you end up going for a 26" position the cranks in parallel to the ground and try spinning the bars 360° and see if the wheel gets blocked by the pedals like in the picture.
its really a personal preference, just ride the bike, see how it feels.
thanks bro, ill keep and mind to check that, looks like a pain in the ass when you throw those bars XP thanks again
the P.bikes are a bit low and slack for street. the NS completes are great to get started on. good specs and not too aggressive geometry.
in terms of suspension vs rigid, it is personal preference. i change it up every now and then, and i think suspension is better for people who are starting out, as it has easier front wheel lift and is more forgiving, and later on rigid forks are a good option for reducing weight and maintenance.
If options are limited then I don't think it's going to be that easy to find a bike with perefct geo for street as even for us in Europe and the US/Can there aren't a massive amount of true street MTBs. Granted, some are more suited than other but if we consider that the P and the NS might be the only bikes available to Dopecamel and his friend then both bikes will still be up to the task. The P series might be a bit slack for street but plenty of people do ride street with them. On paper the geo on my NS Traffic isn't perfect either but it's the last thing I'm thinking about when riding it. You adapt and get used to a bike over time, which I think is important to remember when not spoiled for choice.
As for forks, BMXs are rigid so it shouldn't be that much of a problem that the P has them. When I made the move from BMX to a 24" with 100mm DJ2s and the forks just made everything harder to learn again. Took me ages to get my pop back On the 26" Traffic I have now I originally put 80mm forks on it but after riding it for while I just didn't see the benefit to having them so got some rigids instead. Feels much better for street now... more like a BMX
Anyway, this is just my personal experience and not to be taken as gospel! Just another point of view to consider. As others have said, it's really all about personal preference and in your case what you can find avaiable to buy where you live.
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On the 26" Traffic I have now I originally put 80mm forks on it but after riding it for while I just didn't see the benefit to having them so got some rigids instead. Feels much better for street now... more like a BMX 
