Specialized Status, air time bike, or grounded ? jumping

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Posted: Jun 24, 2012 at 17:01 Quote
Looking to get a specialized status , problem is the major DH areas are not as close as my trail riding . Now How much would one suffer if forced to climb with this until another more trail worthy bike is bought and also how flickable is this bike , I do have a lot of short DH trail with jumps/ramps around me but it seems like the status's suspension might be to plush to flick into the air ? your opinions?

Posted: Jun 26, 2012 at 14:31 Quote
I don't review many things but the Status warrants some words. Personally, I did not like this bike at all and was very disappointed with it's performance. My friend and I rented the Status II from Winter Park Resort this past weekend. We shred pretty hard for a couple of Kansas guys on rentals. Granted, the Status came with a Marzocchi 888 fork and an off brand rear suspension which is different than what you would purchase from a shop. Our first run consisted of Rainmaker and Beall Ucanb and we were left wondering whether the trails or the bike were to blame for our lack of enjoyment. After the first run, the Status was so bad that my buddy took his back to the rental shop and exchanged his Status for last year's used and abused rental model the Kona Operator. After my second run I did the same thing and dumped the Status. It was horrid for any type of advanced riding. The Status felt wobbly in the corners like the rear triangle was flexing from side to side as you were turning. It didn't provide the sweet boost feeling out of a massive corner or berm that you should get. Also, it seemed to want both tires on the ground at all times because it wanted to suck up everything, including jumps. Jumping with this bike was absolutely a horrible experience as it provided absolutely no "pop" when I pumped into a jump. Flicking the bike around and having fun on was impossible on the Status. Thankfully, once we got Kona's "entry level" bike under us we started smiling again. We railed No Quarter and Rainmaker run after run, and Trestle Downhill and Cruel and Unusual were no problem on the Kona. Can't imagine what those runs would have been like when battling the Status's crap ass design. Granted, the one thing that the Status did better than the Kona was pedaling efficiency. So, if you like to pedal a heavy ass bike and keep your tires on the ground without smiling then get the Status. If you like to have fun on a DH bike I would look elsewhere. The Status is crap.

Posted: Jun 27, 2012 at 20:11 Quote
Thanks for the reply , first bad take I have heard on the status so far , not that your opinion is wrong in fact you sound way more intelligent . Why was it running triple 8's with no brand rear shock ? doesnt it at least come with a xfusion or rockshox ?

Posted: Jul 1, 2012 at 11:38 Quote
Trestle uses that same suspension setup on all their value 'Rental' models. Whereas, the more expensive 'Demo' bike rentals come with original factory suspensions. Now that I think about it again, we saw that the rear shock said "Roco" on it. I googled and found that Roco is also a of Marzocchi. So I bet that Trestle bike shop and Marzocchi have some sort of business agreement going for their value 'Rental' model fleet. As Last year's rental fleet Operator had the same Marzocchi setup.

I too have seen positive reviews of this bike. Definitely, the suspension difference is a large variable in my opinion. Another variable is that the Trestle Status II came with very cheap plastic pedals on them. I absolutely hate plastic pedals on any type of bike and plastic pedals on a DH bike is an oxymoron. Also, there may be riding style gap. I tend to like more of a 'Park oriented' bike (hence why I went to Trestle) and for me the Trestle Status II just didn't deliver in that type of environment.

Maybe a local bike shop will have a Specialized demo day so you can try one. I would like to try one with the factory setup on it and see if my opinion changes. You may well be the next owner with a positive review for the bike. Good luck man, it is always fun looking for a new bike.

Posted: Jul 1, 2012 at 19:07 Quote
socnick83 wrote:
I don't review many things but the Status warrants some words. Personally, I did not like this bike at all and was very disappointed with it's performance. My friend and I rented the Status II from Winter Park Resort this past weekend. We shred pretty hard for a couple of Kansas guys on rentals. Granted, the Status came with a Marzocchi 888 fork and an off brand rear suspension which is different than what you would purchase from a shop. Our first run consisted of Rainmaker and Beall Ucanb and we were left wondering whether the trails or the bike were to blame for our lack of enjoyment. After the first run, the Status was so bad that my buddy took his back to the rental shop and exchanged his Status for last year's used and abused rental model the Kona Operator. After my second run I did the same thing and dumped the Status. It was horrid for any type of advanced riding. The Status felt wobbly in the corners like the rear triangle was flexing from side to side as you were turning. It didn't provide the sweet boost feeling out of a massive corner or berm that you should get. Also, it seemed to want both tires on the ground at all times because it wanted to suck up everything, including jumps. Jumping with this bike was absolutely a horrible experience as it provided absolutely no "pop" when I pumped into a jump. Flicking the bike around and having fun on was impossible on the Status. Thankfully, once we got Kona's "entry level" bike under us we started smiling again. We railed No Quarter and Rainmaker run after run, and Trestle Downhill and Cruel and Unusual were no problem on the Kona. Can't imagine what those runs would have been like when battling the Status's crap ass design. Granted, the one thing that the Status did better than the Kona was pedaling efficiency. So, if you like to pedal a heavy ass bike and keep your tires on the ground without smiling then get the Status. If you like to have fun on a DH bike I would look elsewhere. The Status is crap.

You were on a rental bike with presumable horribly tuned suspension, this review is 100% irrelevant. You could make a dirt jumper bad at jumping if you let a rental shop tune the fork.

Posted: Jul 3, 2012 at 15:41 Quote
Yea, I have heard that those rental shop guys take their time to 'horribly tune' the suspensions. I was told by my local bike shop that in order to 'horribly tune' a suspension the rental shop guys get in there and remove some of the spring, hack at the seals, and replace the oil with used motor oil. Then, they just start spinning the adjustment dials until the dials eventually stop moving one direction. I was also told that dirt jump forks get 'horribly tuned' the worst out of any forks.

That must mean that the Kona's with the exact same Marzocchi components as the Status' were also 'horribly tuned' by the rental shop. Hmm... I wonder why we liked those 'horribly tuned' Kona's so much better than the Status? Weird.

Seriously, what do you mean by 'horribly tuned' suspension? Not the specialized factory suspension setup? Wrong spring weight option? You do know that anybody, anywhere, can buy a frame and put any type of suspension on it that he or she desires. Lets say that I purchase a new Status II frame and outfit it with the same type of brand new Marzocchi suspension. Now, is that bike destined to become one of those 'horribly tuned' bikes? Or what if someone decides to switch it up and go with a Fox front and a Rockshox rear on the Status II, is that bike now 'horribly tuned'?

It is obvious that you have never adjusted a fork or shock in your life. It is really darn easy to make adjustments to suspensions systems and the 888s and Roco's were no different with the simple preload, compression, and rebound adjustments. In fact Ironxcross, we were able to completely 'Custom Tune' our suspensions! Think about how awesome a 'Custom Tune' sounds! Though, I admit, we were both very nervous that the rental shop would find out that we modified their 'Horrible Tune' setup.

Think next time before you try to act cool because your comment doesn't speak too highly of your intelligence.

Posted: Jul 4, 2012 at 7:21 Quote
As my daughter would say... pwned!

Posted: Jul 5, 2012 at 6:57 Quote
Sick bro, since they had the same shock it clearly didn't matter that the frames were completely different designs that would require completely different tuning? It's totally impossible the shock the shop used happened to be a great match for the Kona and bad match for the status? It's awesome you're so smart that you can tell I've never tuned suspension before. Gahh I wish I understood suspension as well as you do, hell you eve almost knew what a roco was!

And by tuning, in case this isn't clear, I mean the spring weight, preload, compression dampening, and rebound dampening. Of course you can fiddle with the dampening on the hill, but different suspension designs need a heavier or lighter spring (for the same rider, and relative to the design) and different preload so it sits in the right part of the travel, being off by a bit can make a great bike ride like shit.

Without even riding a status ever in my life I can almost guarantee you could find a shock set up that would make it feel poppy and jump well, at least better than what you rode. Of course the Kona still could be a better bike I really don't know, I'm not saying you're wrong about the Kona being more fun than the Status at all. Ultimately all I'm saying is if you only tried the Status with one spring weight and maybe a couple different clicks on the dampening it didn't get a fair trial.

Posted: Jul 7, 2012 at 5:36 Quote
I would get on one and try it before I listened to anyones opinions from the internet, especially some guy that rented one for two runs and claims to be an expert. I ride at highland mtb park, around five days a week, and I have run into countless people that love that status, never have I come across anyone speaking poorly of the bike.

Posted: Jul 7, 2012 at 12:28 Quote
Suspension is tuned on the trail not in a shop.

Posted: Jul 7, 2012 at 21:23 Quote
I actually have a great experience with my Status. It's all built up on just the frame, so I can't talk about the components on Status I or II, anyway, raced the bike at home in Czech Republic, and now I'm abusing it in Whistler, it pops easily off anything you jump, from A-Line to Crabapple hits, and it can handle techy downhills just as well. Myself riding the small size, it's pretty playful bike, you can throw it around in the air, and it deals pretty well in tight corners. I can't really feel the rear end being wobbly, but I'm running the DT Swiss RWS rear axle, which certainly does make a difference.

Of course as an owner of the bike I can be biased, but I'm really happy with the bike, riding all types of terrain from jumpy trails to technical steep downhills..

Posted: Jul 8, 2012 at 13:33 Quote
It's also tuned over the course of a season not in two runs. The reason the shop is a factor is because they get to experiment with the bike for longer so it's up to them to figure out what general settings work best for the frame if they really care that much, but I doubt they do since the average joey who rents them probably also doesn't care and can't tell.

You can't judge a bikes performance based on a bike rented for a day. This shouldn't even be a discussion.

Posted: Jul 8, 2012 at 22:02 Quote
I declare inroncross the winner of this debate because socnick83 is from kansas and I work at the trestle bike shop

Posted: Oct 23, 2012 at 10:12 Quote
danarchy420 wrote:
I declare inroncross the winner of this debate because socnick83 is from kansas and I work at the trestle bike shop

I also rented a Status from the Trestle bike shop. I was up the last week before they closed for winter this year. It was my first time on a DH bike and although it was much heavier than I'm used to I really enjoyed it. I'm pretty good at suspension tuning from years of MX experience so I got the suspension dialed in and it rode great! I'm seriously looking at purchasing a complete Status II at this point

Posted: Oct 24, 2012 at 12:41 Quote
Barrecloth and soderstrom chose to ride it instead of demos at rampage. Can't be all bad. The status we have in our shop(green and black one with x fusion suspension) feels like a super solid ride for the price.

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