NS Suburban Dirt with 24" wheels?

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NS Suburban Dirt with 24" wheels?
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flag leomd333
Posted: Jul 20, 2014 at 6:54 Quote
Hello, I am getting a great bargain on an NS suburban Dirt. I currently ride a 24" Fireeye Shortfuse 360, But I'm 6'5" and the TT is too short, would a Dirt Suburban be ok with 24" wheels on it? Would it mess the geometry up too much? I can if I really need to buy 26" rims and build them to my current Halo hubs, but Im short on cash! So for now I plan on riding it with the 24's.
flag cmc4130
Posted: Jul 20, 2014 at 19:55 Quote
leomd333 wrote:
Hello, I am getting a great bargain on an NS suburban Dirt. I currently ride a 24" Fireeye Shortfuse 360, But I'm 6'5" and the TT is too short, would a Dirt Suburban be ok with 24" wheels on it? Would it mess the geometry up too much? I can if I really need to buy 26" rims and build them to my current Halo hubs, but Im short on cash! So for now I plan on riding it with the 24's.

It'll be fine.
24"s just drop your whole bike an inch closer to the ground.
flag grumpysteve
Posted: Jul 21, 2014 at 0:14 Quote
^ what he said, you may even be able to slam the rear wheel more to get a shorter rear end. The forks won't be 24 specific though so there will be a little gap. If you were to get a 24 fork it'd drop the front end a little bit which would in turn drop the bb a fraction and make the ht and st steeper, effectively making it a lot more responsive
flag leomd333
Posted: Jul 21, 2014 at 11:20 Quote
cmc4130 wrote:
leomd333 wrote:
Hello, I am getting a great bargain on an NS suburban Dirt. I currently ride a 24" Fireeye Shortfuse 360, But I'm 6'5" and the TT is too short, would a Dirt Suburban be ok with 24" wheels on it? Would it mess the geometry up too much? I can if I really need to buy 26" rims and build them to my current Halo hubs, but Im short on cash! So for now I plan on riding it with the 24's.

It'll be fine.
24"s just drop your whole bike an inch closer to the ground.

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flag leomd333
Posted: Jul 21, 2014 at 11:22 Quote
grumpysteve wrote:
^ what he said, you may even be able to slam the rear wheel more to get a shorter rear end. The forks won't be 24 specific though so there will be a little gap. If you were to get a 24 fork it'd drop the front end a little bit which would in turn drop the bb a fraction and make the ht and st steeper, effectively making it a lot more responsive

Ive already been running argyles with 24's for a while now, seems ok!
flag cmc4130
Posted: Jul 21, 2014 at 14:01 Quote
grumpysteve wrote:
^ what he said, you may even be able to slam the rear wheel more to get a shorter rear end. . . .

yeah, well, that's one big reason people opt for 24"-wheel specific frames when running 24" wheels. usually 26" DJ frames are designed so that the wheel/tire still fits with the axle all the way forward in the dropout. if you put a 24" wheel in a 26" frame, the axle isn't going to push any further forward, so you're not really getting the full benefit of a 24" wheel specific frame which would make the rear end shorter.

the other aspect of 24"-specific mtb-DJ/park frames is that the bottom bracket is higher, relative to the axles. so you don't get have your down-stroke pedal closer to the ground, and you also have the snappier response associated with having the bb closer to axle level rather than below it.

but still, if someone wants to ride 24"s in their 26" frame, it'll still work fine.

24"-specific Black Market Contraband. Note how close the rear wheel is to the seat tube. A 24" in a 26" frame is not going to look like that....
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24" NS Capital
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flag leomd333
Posted: Jul 21, 2014 at 16:50 Quote
cmc4130 wrote:
grumpysteve wrote:
^ what he said, you may even be able to slam the rear wheel more to get a shorter rear end. . . .

yeah, well, that's one big reason people opt for 24"-wheel specific frames when running 24" wheels. usually 26" DJ frames are designed so that the wheel/tire still fits with the axle all the way forward in the dropout. if you put a 24" wheel in a 26" frame, the axle isn't going to push any further forward, so you're not really getting the full benefit of a 24" wheel specific frame which would make the rear end shorter.

the other aspect of 24"-specific mtb-DJ/park frames is that the bottom bracket is higher, relative to the axles. so you don't get have your down-stroke pedal closer to the ground, and you also have the snappier response associated with having the bb closer to axle level rather than below it.

but still, if someone wants to ride 24"s in their 26" frame, it'll still work fine.

24"-specific Black Market Contraband. Note how close the rear wheel is to the seat tube. A 24" in a 26" frame is not going to look like that....
Unsecure image, only https images allowed: http://brimages.bikeboardmedia.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/black-market-2010-contraband-24-dirtjump-bike4.jpg
24" NS Capital
Unsecure image, only https images allowed: http://p.vitalbmx.com/photos/forums/2013/01/26/601161_538069112892253_1675183066_n_840132.jpg

The 24" wheels i have on my Sub suprisingly are pretty close to the seat tube. It rides really well for a 26" frame!
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