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flag Danielaustin1234
Posted: Jul 27, 2014 at 18:27 Quote
You shouldn't really change the shock dimensions.
So stick with the same size rear suspension.
You can change shocks (and if you have the marzocchi Rocco
Unsecure image, only https images allowed: http://www.frosthelm.de/e2357/e5799/e2560/e2563/e2565/IMGP3892.jpgI would advise that you DO change shocks)
-perhaps a fox DHX, which are reviewed to work well with this frame.

You can put any standard dual crown on the front,
as long as it has a 1 1/8th steerer tube.

So,
fox 40
boxxer
marzocchi 888
all of the above would be very safe and well tried options.

Though with any change in suspension parts, make sure to get them set up for your weight and style.[/Quote]

I am big into the speed in Technical areas and sometimes do large gap jumps and table tops. So I want something that absorbs small bumps the best so I can feel the least amount of bumps and keep the most control of my bike. Any Suggestions?
flag Danielaustin1234
Posted: Jul 27, 2014 at 18:32 Quote
You can put any standard dual crown on the front,
as long as it has a 1 1/8th steerer tube.

So,
fox 40
boxxer
marzocchi 888
all of the above would be very safe and well tried options.

Though with any change in suspension parts, make sure to get them set up for your weight and style.[/Quote]

Also can I get any 9.5 Rear Shock and put it on?
flag Kustomango
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Posted: Jul 27, 2014 at 18:47 Quote
Danielaustin1234 wrote:
You can put any standard dual crown on the front,
as long as it has a 1 1/8th steerer tube.

So,
fox 40
boxxer
marzocchi 888
all of the above would be very safe and well tried options.

Though with any change in suspension parts, make sure to get them set up for your weight and style.

Also can I get any 9.5 Rear Shock and put it on?[/Quote]

If the standard shock length is 9.5" (and I think it is, though measure before you do anything)
then you can fit any normal 9.5" shock, With The Right Mounts!
Shock mounts have a few measurements;
-how wide they are (sideways)
-how big a diameter bolt they have (which will either be a M8 or M6 bolt, which are respectivley 8mm or 6mm diameter)

The frame must match your shock mounts!

here is a brief explanation;

http://www.sicklines.com/tech/shock_details/
flag Danielaustin1234
Posted: Jul 27, 2014 at 18:49 Quote
Kustomango wrote:
Danielaustin1234 wrote:
You can put any standard dual crown on the front,
as long as it has a 1 1/8th steerer tube.

So,
fox 40
boxxer
marzocchi 888
all of the above would be very safe and well tried options.

Though with any change in suspension parts, make sure to get them set up for your weight and style.

Also can I get any 9.5 Rear Shock and put it on?

If the standard shock length is 9.5" (and I think it is, though measure before you do anything)
then you can fit any normal 9.5" shock, With The Right Mounts!
Shock mounts have a few measurements;
-how wide they are (sideways)
-how big a diameter bolt they have (which will either be a M8 or M6 bolt, which are respectivley 8mm or 6mm diameter)

The frame must match your shock mounts!

here is a brief explanation;

http://www.sicklines.com/tech/shock_details/[/Quote]

Ok thank you I will check this out tomorrow and then I will get back to you!!!!
flag Kustomango
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Posted: Jul 27, 2014 at 18:52 Quote
I have had a look but can't find a trust worthy source for the mounting hardware on a 09 commencal supreme.
so you will need to measure the shocks mounting hardware
-measure both ends for the width of each mount
-and measure both shock bolts for diameter (6mm or 8mm)

as long as you don't want to put manitou or anything else with strange mounting sizes on, if you get the right shock mounts you can put any 9.5" shock on you bike.

Luckily shock hardware is relatively cheap, and once you have the measuremtns, easy to get,
so if you can buy your next shock with matching hardware all well and good

but better to buy a better shock and spend 20 pounds getting new hardware (which needs to be replaced anyway TBH).
flag Danielaustin1234
Posted: Jul 27, 2014 at 18:54 Quote
Kustomango wrote:
I have had a look but can't find a trust worthy source for the mounting hardware on a 09 commencal supreme.
so you will need to measure the shocks mounting hardware
-measure both ends for the width of each mount
-and measure both shock bolts for diameter (6mm or 8mm)

as long as you don't want to put manitou or anything else with strange mounting sizes on, if you get the right shock mounts you can put any 9.5" shock on you bike.

Luckily shock hardware is relatively cheap, and once you have the measuremtns, easy to get,
so if you can buy your next shock with matching hardware all well and good

but better to buy a better shock and spend 20 pounds getting new hardware (which needs to be replaced anyway TBH).

Sounds good
flag ibishreddin
Posted: Jul 28, 2014 at 15:45 Quote
Danielaustin1234 wrote:
Kustomango wrote:
With Fox 40 having a axle to crown increse in height over the Marzocchi 66s of 6mm
the geometry difference will be practically nothing.

You will end up with a high BBH of 14+" but the supreme starts off with a fairly high BB so no change there.
but your new geo will have these changes:
slacken HA less then half a degree (you have the headtube sleeve so you can steepen or slacken more as well)
seat angle again less than half a degree
wheelbase extends by 2.4mm (you will get that by changing tire sizes so nothing to think about).

Awesome man thanks. Wait so can I put a bigger Back suspension on the back?
Also what if I put a Boxxer on the Front? Could that work too?

Extra frame stress, mess up geo, might feel weird
flag Danielaustin1234
Posted: Jul 28, 2014 at 16:17 Quote
Extra frame stress, mess up geo, might feel weird[/Quote]

Yea I am not going to do It but I am going to get a better back suspension for it probably the first thing that I don will be that.
flag Danielaustin1234
Posted: Jul 28, 2014 at 16:31 Quote
Kustomango wrote:
I have had a look but can't find a trust worthy source for the mounting hardware on a 09 commencal supreme.
so you will need to measure the shocks mounting hardware
-measure both ends for the width of each mount
-and measure both shock bolts for diameter (6mm or 8mm)

as long as you don't want to put manitou or anything else with strange mounting sizes on, if you get the right shock mounts you can put any 9.5" shock on you bike.

Luckily shock hardware is relatively cheap, and once you have the measuremtns, easy to get,
so if you can buy your next shock with matching hardware all well and good

but better to buy a better shock and spend 20 pounds getting new hardware (which needs to be replaced anyway TBH).



How much travel could the bike have if I put new Forks in?
flag Kustomango
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Posted: Jul 30, 2014 at 17:06 Quote
Danielaustin1234 wrote:
Kustomango wrote:
I have had a look but can't find a trust worthy source for the mounting hardware on a 09 commencal supreme.
so you will need to measure the shocks mounting hardware
-measure both ends for the width of each mount
-and measure both shock bolts for diameter (6mm or 8mm)

as long as you don't want to put manitou or anything else with strange mounting sizes on, if you get the right shock mounts you can put any 9.5" shock on you bike.

Luckily shock hardware is relatively cheap, and once you have the measuremtns, easy to get,
so if you can buy your next shock with matching hardware all well and good

but better to buy a better shock and spend 20 pounds getting new hardware (which needs to be replaced anyway TBH).




How much travel could the bike have if I put new Forks in?

well the frame will still have 160mm rear travel.
and boxxers, 888 or 40 (or any normal triple crowns) have 203mm travel.

Though the bike is still a Mini Dh bike, all of its reviews say that it should not be under estimated and still makes a great race bike.
flag nordland071285
Posted: Jul 30, 2014 at 17:08 Quote
Dan Atherton used to run a lowered 40 on his furious a while back, lowering is an easy task I believe
just a case of adding/removing from shim stack
flag groeit
Posted: Jul 30, 2014 at 17:13 Quote
If you're thinking of changing front fork and damper why not get a Sunday ? You'll get 8.5inches (215mm) rear travel and with a angle set you'd get much nicer geo.
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