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Posted: Jul 31, 2016 at 12:27 Quote
Hi there Just after some help on frames ect

Used to ride bmx a few years ago and want to get into riding again but dj bikes

Looking at building a bike up as a hobbie for a couple weeks but no idea on frames ect ... I have a old skool Saracen xile frame knocking about that I would also like to do up as a mess around so any help would be nice as not much knowledge on what parts to use ... (Bb sizes) pulling my hair out with that one ????????

Posted: Jul 31, 2016 at 13:29 Quote
Ramsell2016 wrote:
Hi there Just after some help on frames ect

Used to ride bmx a few years ago and want to get into riding again but dj bikes

Looking at building a bike up as a hobbie for a couple weeks but no idea on frames ect ... I have a old skool Saracen xile frame knocking about that I would also like to do up as a mess around so any help would be nice as not much knowledge on what parts to use ... (Bb sizes) pulling my hair out with that one ????????

Some of the most popular/respected DJ frames out there are made by:

1. Black Market "Edit 1" and "Mob"
2. Transition "PBJ" and "BLT"
3. NS Bikes "Capital" "Suburban" and "Majesty" http://www.ns-bikes.com/frames-forks,26,pl.htm

There are more in here, too:
http://www.vitalmtb.com/product/category/Bikes,1/riding_type/dirt_jump_urban

For bb sizes, it depends on the frame you pick. In general, most mtb's are going to be Euro bb, 73mm wide shell. However, some DJ frames, they know their market has some crossover with bmx, so they use a 68mm wide Mid bottom bracket.

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I use regular bmx Profile canks with the 6 inch spindle option, for a Black Market Mob with a 73mm bb shell (you also have to get the 53mm tube spacer instead of the 48 tube spacer, if your shell is 73 instead of 68.

Bmx cranks with euro bb?
https://www.pinkbike.com/forum/listcomments/?threadid=159138

BMX vs Mtn cranks for ss need help
http://forums.mtbr.com/urban-dj-park/bmx-vs-mtn-cranks-ss-need-help-709686.html

Posted: Aug 1, 2016 at 9:54 Quote
cmc4130 wrote:
Ramsell2016 wrote:
Hi there Just after some help on frames ect

Used to ride bmx a few years ago and want to get into riding again but dj bikes

Looking at building a bike up as a hobbie for a couple weeks but no idea on frames ect ... I have a old skool Saracen xile frame knocking about that I would also like to do up as a mess around so any help would be nice as not much knowledge on what parts to use ... (Bb sizes) pulling my hair out with that one ????????

Some of the most popular/respected DJ frames out there are made by:

1. Black Market "Edit 1" and "Mob"
2. Transition "PBJ" and "BLT"
3. NS Bikes "Capital" "Suburban" and "Majesty" http://www.ns-bikes.com/frames-forks,26,pl.htm

There are more in here, too:
http://www.vitalmtb.com/product/category/Bikes,1/riding_type/dirt_jump_urban

For bb sizes, it depends on the frame you pick. In general, most mtb's are going to be Euro bb, 73mm wide shell. However, some DJ frames, they know their market has some crossover with bmx, so they use a 68mm wide Mid bottom bracket.

Unsecure image, only https images allowed: http://p.vitalbmx.com/assets/images/product_guide/bottom_brackets.jpg
I use regular bmx Profile canks with the 6 inch spindle option, for a Black Market Mob with a 73mm bb shell (you also have to get the 53mm tube spacer instead of the 48 tube spacer, if your shell is 73 instead of 68.

Bmx cranks with euro bb?
https://www.pinkbike.com/forum/listcomments/?threadid=159138

BMX vs Mtn cranks for ss need help
http://forums.mtbr.com/urban-dj-park/bmx-vs-mtn-cranks-ss-need-help-709686.html

Cheers bro ... What do you think about the ns metropolis 2 & 3?

Posted: Aug 1, 2016 at 11:49 Quote
Ramsell2016 wrote:

Cheers bro ... What do you think about the ns metropolis 2 & 3?

They're excellent bikes. But, if you can get the Metropolis 2 with the Manitou Circus fork, that would be better than the Metropolis 3 with the RST fork.

Posted: Aug 1, 2016 at 14:50 Quote
cmc4130 wrote:
Ramsell2016 wrote:

Cheers bro ... What do you think about the ns metropolis 2 & 3?

They're excellent bikes. But, if you can get the Metropolis 2 with the Manitou Circus fork, that would be better than the Metropolis 3 with the RST fork.

Is there anything you would change or upgrade with (met 2)?

Posted: Aug 2, 2016 at 9:05 Quote
Ramsell2016 wrote:
Is there anything you would change or upgrade with (met 2)?

Not really. Everything on it should be durable.

However, 25/10 gearing (65 gear inches) is somewhat stout gearing for a stock bike. They should have done 25/11 (59 gear inches) or 23/10 (59.8 ).

I'm guessing they did that just because of parts availability--25t sprockets are very common in bmx, as are 9t and 10t drivers. But, 11t drivers are no longer common in bmx.

Frame: NS custom butted 4130 cromoly
Fork: Manitou Circus Sport, 9 mm axle, steel steering tube
Headset: Salt by WTP, integrated IS42, sealed
Stem: NS Bikes Quantum 25.4, 37mm reach
Handlebar: NS Lick, 740mm
Grips: NS Sam Pilgrim signature, w/o flanges
Brakes: SRAM DB1 160mm rear, Tektro Novela 160mm front
Bottom Bracket: SALT by We The People, Spanish BB, 19mm x 8 splines
Crank: SALT by We The People, tubular cromoly
Chainring: SALT by We The People, 25T steel sprocket
Chain: PYC-410H
Rims: NS Fundamental
Hubs: Joytech 9 mm front, Octane One SS Pro 10T Driver (sealed) rear
Spokes: 14G-2.0mm w/ 14mm nipples
Tires: Kenda Small Block 8 2.1 rear & front
Seatpost + Saddle: Octane One fat seat-post combo
Pedals: Odyssey Twisted PC
Weight: ~13.1 kg including pedals, without front brake

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