Thursday night there was snow as low as the 2 km lot. I was out pin flagging trail yesterday afternoon and the road was a sloppy mess. Hopefully it tries enough Saturday to ride a little Sunday. But Both Sat and Sunday we will be working on Family Guy trail. Meet near the top of Billy Dog at 10:30 am. Send an email to mmbtsfg@gmail.com if you would like email notification of upcoming build sessions including some evenings.
above quote from a few weeks ago. If anybody wants to build new trail, just send an email and we will set up an evening. Best if you have a small group of friends that want to build. I'll bring the tools.
Ooo, lots of heat when the trail shouldn't be ridden in early season when everyone is iching to ride.
For the signs, the new trail signs do have a note about not riding when conditions are poor. (However, do people really pay attention to signs, when they do not understand the implications?)
The MMBTS logo is also on the signs, and that hopefully will educate more of the general public that MMBTS even exists (Yes there are still many, many people that don't even know that it exists.)
I think that more of the problem with trail damage is not people in these forums (although everyone here is not perfect), as they are at least thinking a little about conditions, but the problem is people who do not even know about MMBTS, or pinkbike etc. And really, if anyone on pinkbike rides in the rain, hope is lost for them as they just don't care. (The definition of "tacky" as defined on pinkbike is extremely variable.)
I am actually impressed by the additional support I have seen for MMBTS from the forums this year. When new people ask "where are the trails", others actually know where to direct them. Also, it is great to see others supporting the advocacy of local groups for building trails. Once people are on the MMBTS website, hopefully they will see the content about trail days and understand how the fairies work.
While riding in the rain does baffle me, as it is not that fun anyway- on the flip side, I would also like to thank all of those that took the time early in the early season to clear deadfall on their own rides. The only way the trail system can be maintained is with ongoing community help. Trailday turnout has also been great so far this year (even in the pouring rain!) Let's see if we can keep it up! There are sometimes tools left on the trailside and buffing is always welcome. However, builders take their work personally, and as silentJ said, info@mmbts.com will pass your details on to the right people if you have a set project in mind, or just want to help.
As it does not exist, Ushoulda will not be worked on during trail days so users will have to take care of things themselves.
Yes, good-on the Spin Sisters for organizing their own trail work, they were in contact the CMBA and MMBTS long ago. (now their 300 members just need to join MMBTS or CMBA- I know many are members, but we want ALL) (now, we just have to work on the Trek people).
Also just a comment with the suggested trail day ride time vs build time or $ donation value - People that mail in memberships do tend to donate more than people that sign up at trail days. Thus I think, people are already staring to realize the importance to give back however they can.
My daughter and I went out today and rode Braggin Rights, Reconnect and Long Distance. Braggin Rights had several wet and muddy sections. The wind has blown down one tree (8 inch diameter) across the Braggin Rights. The bottom of Reconnect is wet and muddy.
Is it possible to put up signs at the bottom of Moose Road and at Station Flats urging people to not ride wet trails. I think some people just don't realize.
Sign signs everywhere is signs Blocking out the scenery Breaking my mind Do this don't do that can't you....just use some common sense and accept personal responsibility.
hiked up tw last night all the way to tib-fib. section. was great shape with the exception of the fallen tree mentioned earlier. right after the rock drop before th bridge over the creek. the spring has opened up right before the bridge again, but all down to the rocks so no big worries. i tried with my meek arms to move the tree, but alas it will require a saw of some sorts, or someone with more superhuman powers than myself. it is duckable at the moment.
toothless was perfect as well.
just wondering if the first corner on the steeps of the new JG section is complete and trying to figure out how not to crash making the corner compared to the original non-trail erosion friendly straight line. any tips on making that new corner are more than welcome. the rest of the trail was running gangbusters.
hiked up tw last night all the way to tib-fib. section. was great shape with the exception of the fallen tree mentioned earlier. right after the rock drop before th bridge over the creek. the spring has opened up right before the bridge again, but all down to the rocks so no big worries. i tried with my meek arms to move the tree, but alas it will require a saw of some sorts, or someone with more superhuman powers than myself. it is duckable at the moment.
toothless was perfect as well.
just wondering if the first corner on the steeps of the new JG section is complete and trying to figure out how not to crash making the corner compared to the original non-trail erosion friendly straight line. any tips on making that new corner are more than welcome. the rest of the trail was running gangbusters.
Dicking around on Jumpingpound Ridge, Tuesday evening- Pretty much all dry on the grind up from the north trailhead (aka Lusk), until 400m beyond Cox junction, where significant snow (both old winter and new from last weekend), is encountered. Slogged it out for a bit in deep drifts and wetness without getting to the summit meadows, then on to plan "B"- Cox trail to the top, and return the same way. After the descent to the col between JP and Cox (only a bit of snow), I wimped out on the final climb to Cox due to pervasive worrisome thoughts about the return grunt back up to JP ridge. It wasn't that bad a climb actually, so shoulda continued all the way up Cox. A very nice evening out anyway. So, Cox will still have some large drifts to plow through, after the wet rooty part in the trees below the summit it will be mostly good and dry. One half downed tree to watch out for if descending Jumpingpound Ridge.
Rode Shaft and family guy down to Billy dog yesterday afternoon.
Shaft was good, one or two puddles along the trail. Sooo many switchbacks...
Family guy is kinda fun for a cruise, although the slight uphills kinda suck. I'd say when it's finished, it'll be a nice break on the forearm burn for everyday working folk for myself who doesn't have forearms like a fisherman.
Billy dog (was my first time riding it) had, alas a small river of water running down it in parts, and the ground was fairly saturated down further where it starts to loose it's steepness. Prolly needs a bit more time to dry. I really liked the skinny TTF with the little rollers and such on the lower part.
I'll have to try to get out on the next trail day, ALthough with a 2 month old baby, it's hard enough to get out at all lol
Rode Shaft and family guy down to Billy dog yesterday afternoon.
Shaft was good, one or two puddles along the trail. Sooo many switchbacks...
Family guy is kinda fun for a cruise, although the slight uphills kinda suck. I'd say when it's finished, it'll be a nice break on the forearm burn for everyday working folk for myself who doesn't have forearms like a fisherman.
Billy dog (was my first time riding it) had, alas a small river of water running down it in parts, and the ground was fairly saturated down further where it starts to loose it's steepness. Prolly needs a bit more time to dry. I really liked the skinny TTF with the little rollers and such on the lower part.
I'll have to try to get out on the next trail day, ALthough with a 2 month old baby, it's hard enough to get out at all lol
T-dub was in great shape last night except for the fallen tree and water running down the rocks underneath it. Billy dog will def need some time to dry out in the middle, the top was in great shape and so was the bottom. Hd to walk to middle for quitea bit to keep from doing damage. All that wood work is great thoigh, kudos to the builder.
Is it possible to put up signs at the bottom of Moose Road and at Station Flats urging people to not ride wet trails. I think some people just don't realize.
Sign signs everywhere is signs Blocking out the scenery Breaking my mind Do this don't do that can't you....just use some common sense and accept personal responsibility.
Hey, it's an idea. What's yours?
i support mandatory user fees, like many of the trail systems in the states, with education at time of purchase (also an unpopular option, i know )
signage looks like shit and gets ignored anyways. i really wish there was more common sense and personal accountability but i'm not so naive to believe that will ever happen.
As it does not exist, Ushoulda will not be worked on during trail days so users will have to take care of things themselves.
It clearly does exist and the MMBTS users should be taking care of it even if it is "unofficial' as they are all heavy users. Doesn't need to be a "trail day" to take care of it...
As it does not exist, Ushoulda will not be worked on during trail days so users will have to take care of things themselves.
It clearly does exist and the MMBTS users should be taking care of it even if it is "unofficial' as they are all heavy users. Doesn't need to be a "trail day" to take care of it...
CM!
Agreed, saying it doesn't exist because it is not an official MMBTS trail feels like a cop out to me. It gets heavily used by mmbts members during the season and before the gates to moose are open for the season. It shouldn't be put all on MMBTS though, CMBA and other user groups use it as well and next to no one puts time in repairing it or maintaining it(i am guilty of this as well)
Ushoulda is an unofficial trail, neither MMBTS, CMBA (or FoKC for that matter) are allowed to waltz in and work on it. If they do, they run the risk of pissing off SRD and losing permission to do ANY maintenance. Most of us have done unofficial work at some point in time, but the organized clubs generally can't.
It sucks, but that's what we have to deal with presently.
Ushoulda is an unofficial trail, neither MMBTS, CMBA (or FoKC for that matter) are allowed to waltz in and work on it. If they do, they run the risk of pissing off SRD and losing permission to do ANY maintenance. Most of us have done unofficial work at some point in time, but the organized clubs generally can't.
It sucks, but that's what we have to deal with presently.
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