Kona Cowan 2008 vs Specialized P2 2008

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Kona Cowan 2008 vs Specialized P2 2008

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Mark77
Posted: Oct 3, 2008 at 4:19 Quote
Hello, I am new here on the forum, and i have a question.

I want to buy a new bikes and now I doubt between the Kona Cowan 2008 & the Specialized P2 2008

Which of the 2 is now actual better?

I already read that the Specialized P2 2008 much better is then the Kona Stuff 2008

Now are the Kona Cowan 2008 and the Kona Stuff 2008 2 different bikes

So now I ask a comparison between the Kona Cowan 2008 & the Specialized p2 2008


Meanwhile thanks for the reactions

(Sorry for my bad English)



Specifications Kona Cowan 2008:

[img]http://www.bike2build.nl/fotogroot/kona08cowansm.jpg[/img]

Frame sizes XS(13”), S(14”), M(16”), L(17”)
Frame tubing Kona Clump 7005 Aluminum
Rear Shock -
Fork Marzocchi Dirt Jumper 2 w/QR20 100mm
Headset FSA Integrated
Crankarms FSA Moto-X MegaExo
Chainrings Rockguard/36/24
B/B FSA MegaExo
Pedals Kona Jackshit
Chain Shimano HG50
Freewheel Shimano Alivio (11-32, 8 Speed)
F/D Shimano Alivio
R/D Shimano Alivio
Shifters Shimano Alivio
Handlebar FSA Maximus Riser OS
Stem FSA GAP OS
Grips Kona Cowan Signature
Brakes Hayes Stroker Trail Hydraulic V6
Brake Levers Hayes Stroker Trail Hydraulic
Front Hub KK Disc 20mm
Rear Hub Shimano M525 Disc
Spokes Stainless 14g
Tires Maxxis High Roller 26 x 2.35
Rims Sun EQ 3.1SL
Saddle Kona DJ
Seatpost FSA Maximus DBL
Seat Clamp Kona QR
Color Matt Black & Matt White




Specifications Specialized P2 2008

[img]http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x198/jessec_010/P2.jpg[/img]

FRAME A1 Premium Aluminium, double-butted ORE DT, forged HT/ISCG BB/chainstay yoke/horizontal dropouts, integrated chain tensioner and axle carrier, replaceable 98954020 alloy hanger, disc only
REAR SHOCK N/A
FORK Marzocchi DJ2, 100mm, 32mm alloy stanchions and Cr-Mo steerer, one piece magnesium lower, cold forged alloy crown, RV damping w/ reb. adj., air assist "stiff" coil spring w/ preload adj., disc only
HEADSET Tank FX, 1 1/8" threadless w/ hollow bolt
STEM Truvativ Hussefelt, forged alloy, 31.8mm, 0 degree rise
HANDLEBARS Specialized butted alloy 31.8mm, 640mm wide, 50mm rise, 8 degree back, 8 degree up sweep
GRIPS Specialized Enduro, dual density Kraton
FRONT BRAKE Hayes Stroker Ryde, hydraulic, 6" v-cut rotor
REAR BRAKE Hayes Stroker Ryde, hydraulic, 4" v-cut rotor
BRAKE LEVERS Hayes Stroker Ryde, hydraulic
FRONT DERAILLEUR N/A
REAR DERAILLEUR SRAM X-5, short cage
SHIFT LEVERS SRAM X-5 trigger
CASSETTE SRAM PG-830, 8-speed, 11-28t
CHAIN KMC X8, 1/2" x 3/32" w/ reusable Missing Link
CRANKSET Fuse tubular heat treated Cr-Mo 3pc, 175mm
CHAINRINGS 34A w/ poly bash guard and Specialized ISCG chain guide
BOTTOM BRACKET Fuse Euro, alloy cups, 4x cartridge bearings, 19mm heat treated Cr-Mo 8 spline spindle
PEDALS Specialized alloy platform, 9/16"
RIMS Specialized/Alex HRD 26, double wall disc w/ eyelets
FRONT HUB Specialized P.Disc, CNC high flanges and disc mounts, 36h, nutted 3/8" axle
REAR HUB Specialized P.Disc, cassette, CNC high flanges and disc mounts, 36h, nutted 3/8" axle
SPOKES 1.8mm (15g) stainless
FRONT TYRE Specialized Rhythm Control, 26x2.3", 60TPI, aramid bead
REAR TYRE Specialized Compound Control, 26x2.2", 60TPI, aramid bead
TUBES Specialized schrader valve
SADDLE Specialized Fuse, 8mm rails, PVC bumpers front and rear
SEAT POST Specialized two bolt, no offset, micro adjust, 30.9mm
SEAT BINDER CNC'd alloy, single bolt
NOTES Chain stay protector, reflectors, owners manual


Greetings Mark
Flatulant-Primate
Posted: Oct 3, 2008 at 20:42 Quote
well i have a riden both, and i would have to go for the specailized, they just seem to be better built. I have a 2008 shred and i love it. If i had the money i would have gotten something a bit better, but thats how it goes. try riding them both at shops and see.Smile
zwak
Posted: Oct 3, 2008 at 22:12 Quote
I'm going to recommend the Cowan for three reasons:

First of all the fork on the Cowan is a 20mm axle which is a lot stiffer and all around better than a 10mm bolt-on.

Second, The Cowan has Stroker Trail brakes where the P.2 has Stroker rides, which are the lower end of the two.

Third, the wheels on the P.2 are TERRIBLE. The wheels on the Cowan aren't exactly great but they are better than the pieces of shit they put on the P.2s.
Mark77
Posted: Oct 5, 2008 at 11:45 Quote
Thanks for the reply's

Besides. I will have use for dirt and street...
orskov
Posted: Oct 5, 2008 at 22:23 Quote
dont have any experience about the cowan but i have a p2 and i love it. good components and very nice geo.
newusername
Posted: Oct 5, 2008 at 22:35 Quote
rancidfan05 wrote:
I'm going to recommend the Cowan for three reasons:

First of all the fork on the Cowan is a 20mm axle which is a lot stiffer and all around better than a 10mm bolt-on.

Second, The Cowan has Stroker Trail brakes where the P.2 has Stroker rides, which are the lower end of the two.

Third, the wheels on the P.2 are TERRIBLE. The wheels on the Cowan aren't exactly great but they are better than the pieces of shit they put on the P.2s.

I would definetly go for the cowan for the same reasons
scotteh
Posted: Oct 5, 2008 at 23:10 Quote
newusername wrote:
rancidfan05 wrote:
I'm going to recommend the Cowan for three reasons:

First of all the fork on the Cowan is a 20mm axle which is a lot stiffer and all around better than a 10mm bolt-on.

Second, The Cowan has Stroker Trail brakes where the P.2 has Stroker rides, which are the lower end of the two.

Third, the wheels on the P.2 are TERRIBLE. The wheels on the Cowan aren't exactly great but they are better than the pieces of shit they put on the P.2s.


I would definetly go for the cowan for the same reasons
That is all very true, but unfortunately the P2 rides far better, IMO.
zwak
Posted: Oct 6, 2008 at 15:05 Quote
truffles wrote:
newusername wrote:
rancidfan05 wrote:
I'm going to recommend the Cowan for three reasons:

First of all the fork on the Cowan is a 20mm axle which is a lot stiffer and all around better than a 10mm bolt-on.

Second, The Cowan has Stroker Trail brakes where the P.2 has Stroker rides, which are the lower end of the two.

Third, the wheels on the P.2 are TERRIBLE. The wheels on the Cowan aren't exactly great but they are better than the pieces of shit they put on the P.2s.


I would definetly go for the cowan for the same reasons

That is all very true, but unfortunately the P2 rides far better, IMO.

Its up to him to decide. I prefer the Cowan over the P.2, only thing he can do is go test ride both.

Its easier to replace the frame over replacing the fork, brakes and the wheels
ryandj
Posted: Oct 27, 2008 at 10:25 Quote
what is the weight of a p2 2008 and a 2008 kona cowan
tacobell123
Posted: Oct 27, 2008 at 10:32 Quote
p2 all the way
l-lellraiser
Posted: Oct 27, 2008 at 10:32 Quote
ryandj wrote:
what is the weight of a p2 2008 and a 2008 kona cowan
why the hell does it matter lose weight and drop a lad in the shitter maybe that will be lighter its under 36 pounds guess
my cowan est is 32 lbs
Mark77
Posted: Oct 29, 2008 at 4:47 Quote
It is become a P2

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