Suspension SETUP, a 'how to' guide...

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Suspension SETUP, a 'how to' guide...

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Posted: Jun 19, 2012 at 16:10 Quote
My suspension is moving pretty slownehen I hit a drop.the faster the bike is going, the faster the suspension will have to react. On a drop you could just be using alot of travel, not necessarily having your suspension be engaging as fast as possible.
This is what I was told by a professional suspension mech who made my session feel like gods chariot. There's actually alot of things suspension companies do/say that work and are easier to understand for the average rider but not necessarily for someone who is riding very hard.
For example the average shim stack in most stock tunes
Hsc has to do with how fast the suspension is moving, not the size of the impact. For example jumps, if you want it to jump/pedal better you will put on more lsc as the landings and lips are lots of compression into the suspension, just slower

Posted: Jun 19, 2012 at 16:13 Quote
bikerboywill wrote:
Think how fast your suspension is traveling when you land a drop........

Oh yea, because you definately know more about suspension than people who race downhill and someone who has been tuning his moto shock since he was 12. Jumps/corners/drops move your suspension much slower than chattery braking bumps. HSC is for abrupt, small and sharp impacts, often times many in a row. LSC is for smoother, bigger but slower impacts.

Posted: Jun 19, 2012 at 16:15 Quote
So you were agreeing with me? I was confused for a second. now it looks like were on the same page
As I was saying alot of people think of big impacts as high speed, and small impacts as low speed, but that's not even close to how you should tune your suspension

Posted: Jun 19, 2012 at 16:26 Quote
juniorpnwdh wrote:
So you were agreeing with me? I was confused for a second. now it looks like were on the same page
As I was saying alot of people think of big impacts as high speed, and small impacts as low speed, but that's not even close to how you should tune your suspension

Oh I agree with you, its bikerboywill who's wrong haha

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Posted: Jun 19, 2012 at 16:43 Quote
on a suspension related note, I rode my friend's 40 with like 2 clicks of lsc damping.


sooo sketch, I nearly died when I hit the front brake.

Posted: Jun 19, 2012 at 20:42 Quote
i think the problem was that you were riding a 40

Posted: Jun 19, 2012 at 20:43 Quote
Z-WAAAAAZ wrote:
i think the problem was that you were riding a 40
dem be fighting words...

Posted: Jun 19, 2012 at 20:46 Quote
lol just messing Razz

Posted: Jun 19, 2012 at 21:00 Quote
ktmmxrider wrote:
High speed compression has nothing to do with the speed if the bike. LSC is what would change the suspension on drops and jumps HSC is for jittery braking bumps and fast, smaller impacts

lsc. initial motion of the shock shaft, rider inputs, small bump absorbtion

Hsc. end stroke of shock piston shaft, high speed impacts, drops etc.

Salute

Posted: Jun 19, 2012 at 21:02 Quote
Sorta. Kinda.
And i was just messing bout the 40 too Razz

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Posted: Jun 19, 2012 at 21:26 Quote
Z-WAAAAAZ wrote:
i think the problem was that you were riding a 40
the funny thing is that my boxxer team with 1 click of lsc has virtually no dive under braking...



and there I was thinking I'd give the competition a fair chance. Wink

Posted: Jun 19, 2012 at 22:49 Quote
dmadness wrote:
ktmmxrider wrote:
High speed compression has nothing to do with the speed if the bike. LSC is what would change the suspension on drops and jumps HSC is for jittery braking bumps and fast, smaller impacts


lsc. initial motion of the shock shaft, rider inputs, small bump absorbtion

Hsc. end stroke of shock piston shaft, high speed impacts, drops etc.

Salute
This.

Posted: Jun 21, 2012 at 2:37 Quote
Right so now landing a drop is lsc??? Rigghhtttttt. Have you ever done a sizable drop or are you still riding curbs? Hitting a landing after dropping through 20ft of air definatly is a high speed impact

Posted: Jun 21, 2012 at 2:53 Quote
The amount of confusion with low and high speed compression settings is annoying. I end up having to change my mind every few months going by what I read, I eventually settled on the assumption that;

LSC was used for fork tautness, i.e brake dive, cornering, rollers and climbing if that is applicable to your style of riding.
HSC is for everything square edged and the way the fork ramps up. Stutter bumps and harsh drops/landings.

So effectively the low speed shaft is all that is activated when you land a jump or drop smoothly. Jumping around on your fork in the car park imitates the fork characteristics you achieve when you activate the high speed shaft.... no?

Posted: Jun 21, 2012 at 6:39 Quote
It depends how you jump around, but if you just mash on it like most people then yes, you're correct.

And bikerboywill.... just facepalm. Its not high speed, high speed is for square edges, G-outs, harsh flat landings etc. You wouldn't be dropping 20ft to flat, you'd likely have a nice tranny, and it'd use lsc.


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