Those things are insanely strong. I wouldnt be surprised at all if they're actually stronger than standard Al bars. Those CNT's are super high-tech, super strong. I'm a big guy and I'd trust my life to mokeylites anyday... In fact, they're on all my bikes
Slightly delayed, but you're completely correct. Last I heard it was about four times the weight could be supported by the Easton carbon bars. Just have to watch for them that there scratches....sorry watching the roast for Larry the Cable Guy.
dont put pointone down so fast. this is the first pic i have seen like this and it is entirely possible that one faulty stem got past inspection. i have had my point one for a year now and it is still incredibly stiff. a huge amount of my friends have the dm version aswell and swear by them. Basically, i still trust pointone.
i'm pretty sure this is the first one what's been broken/damaged to that degree where it hasn't been hit with something or fallen off a ski lift(this does happen my poor big hit)/car rack
doesn't worry me too much, just because 1 fails doesn't mean theyre all going to!
Quick question: I have an 06 brown specialized enduro pro. Here are the components: azonic strip bars, thompson elite x4 stem, x-9 shifters, xt front derailleur, x-0 rear derailleur, stylo cranks, cane creek headset, 2008 van rc2 fork, fox dhx 5.0 shock, the white avid code brakes, dt swiss 5.10 wheels and a specialized hub up front and a dt swiss hub in the rear. I have a 2.5 nevegal with a wire bead tire up front and a 2.25 nevegal in the rear. I have a thompson elite seatpost and a blackspire bashguard. The thing is, it is still pretty heavy, around 36 lbs. What can I do to drop the weight besides getting a different front tire? I'm trying to drop the weight three pounds or so if possible. Thank you, and if you need a picture or more info about the bike let me know please.
ive been running velcro for a year now, light and stays on great (doesnt come off though)
I know it protects the paint all nice and good but anyone ever checked to see what kind of dings are in the chainstay? Not trying to bash on velco I'm thinking about doing it myself. But really considering the inertia of the chain and the minute amount of energy that the fabric would absorb, is it still messing w/ it?
I dont have easy access to digital scales. so the weight is not a spot on thing, and as im sure you all know in this thread, weights are strange... ie the session 88 debates, etc. hence i wont even say a weight, because people will argue over it. its light... thats all im saying!
with my build i didnt want to sacrifice any strength: i have spent all this money on an uber light 4x bike, but i am not a bottomless pit of money, and most people are in the same boat, so i wasnt about to spec something insane. parts wise i would be happy to run any of the components off my Blender on my reign x, apart from tires and tubes, so thats the confidence i have in my bits! in areas i could have saved weight, eg the headset, kings are not the lightest by any means, but the longevity is key for me, and a 5 year warranty is something that means i have to worry less. the same goes for the burgtec pedals: they are monstrous! yet, i have smashed, hit, bashed them into all sorts of objects and they keep comming back for more. im running them on all my bikes, and i feel comfortable them so, and so no reason to change them (unless im running my SPDS)
any gripes? ... i have one sore spot! : i have spent all that money on this frame, and when in the smallest ring ie 12 tooth, the chain rubs against the stays.... not ideal, however this is a minor issue, as im not sure iv found myself in that top gear yet! 37-12! so its all good.
future plans; the forward facing seat clamp, + the hope seat clamp dont look ideal, i think il get a KCNC one that is a little neater, and rounded, so doesn't stick out as much. only other thing is a KMC sl 9 speed gold chain. i would buy some gold hubs, but iv just got pro 2's on 823's for my reign, to run tubless, in whistler this summer i might do some HT down hilling, and run those wheels so its a bit smoother.
all in all its a fantastic bike, its light, its strong, its versatile! - i have a full length seatpost and can ride xc on it with a different cassette. you know what they say. titanium is for life.
There are way too many people who fancy themselves as Engineers.
It's amusing seeing you all discuss the strength and/ or weaknesses of various products based on marketing, hearsay and conjecture. Carbon bars and Point1 stems are just recent examples of this.
I feel for manufacturers fighting an uphill battle for genuinely innovative designs. It's no wonder most make minor changes to designs and add a new colour scheme with a bit of hype through a few new buzz words thrown in.
When you have an Engineering degree please feel free to make suggest bold comments about the strength of X, Y and Z.
[I seem to remember a similar comment emerging earlier in the thread too]
dont put pointone down so fast. this is the first pic i have seen like this and it is entirely possible that one faulty stem got past inspection. i have had my point one for a year now and it is still incredibly stiff. a huge amount of my friends have the dm version aswell and swear by them. Basically, i still trust pointone.
Nobody really did, I think 90% of the owness of this was on that bolt. Not to many people were criticizing Po1nt, rather the DM standard.
And on the velcro note, how much do the neo/lizard skins ones weigh?
If any one here is looking for a light crankset that doesn't cost that much i would recommend that you buy shimano fc-m545`s as they weigh about the same as the atlas FR with the hope BB there made by shimano so you know their strong and their only $160
If any one here is looking for a light crankset that doesn't cost that much i would recommend that you buy shimano fc-m545`s as they weigh about the same as the atlas FR with the hope BB there made by shimano so you know their strong and their only $160
Shimano makes super cycle parts, they must be strong too!
ive been running velcro for a year now, light and stays on great (doesnt come off though)
I know it protects the paint all nice and good but anyone ever checked to see what kind of dings are in the chainstay? Not trying to bash on velco I'm thinking about doing it myself. But really considering the inertia of the chain and the minute amount of energy that the fabric would absorb, is it still messing w/ it?
on my transition gran mal there are no dents/ dings under the velcro. its fine for me , but then again transition frames are overbuilt. also just saying which would be more effective the electrical tape some people use or velcro... food for thought
That's the thing I like about the Marzocchi DM standard over the Boxxer standard, it still requires a bolt securing the stem around the steerer tube and doesnt rely strictly on bolts.
It would have been worse, since it would have simply bent the steertube, making sure you season would be over, since you have to send or order a new lower crown.
Very unlikely... The force is distributed along more axis than with a Boxxer standard. Whereas a Boxxer has four bolts supporting all axis of force, the Marzocchi standard is able to handle significantly more force along multiple axis before failure.
To put it more simply, the Marzocchi standard utilizes what amounts to a scaled back version of the standard mounting mechanism that's been taking a beating on bikes for years PLUS two bolts for additional security. The Boxxer mount forgoes all reference to the traditional standard and relies solely upon four bolts.
i crashed hard enough on my marzocchi dm stem to dent the toptube with the rubber bumper stop,the stem was fine and dandy with no ill affects.
There are way too many people who fancy themselves as Engineers.
It's amusing seeing you all discuss the strength and/ or weaknesses of various products based on marketing, hearsay and conjecture. Carbon bars and Point1 stems are just recent examples of this.
I feel for manufacturers fighting an uphill battle for genuinely innovative designs. It's no wonder most make minor changes to designs and add a new colour scheme with a bit of hype through a few new buzz words thrown in.
When you have an Engineering degree please feel free to make suggest bold comments about the strength of X, Y and Z.
[I seem to remember a similar comment emerging earlier in the thread too]
design and material make strength but heavy.
design and a lot less material make light but weak.
about the denting the top tube thing. This is where I would want my stem to break, before the TT dents. I guess there are ups and downs to both though.
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