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Posted: May 8, 2012 at 17:52 Quote
Hard to beat the Mavic 819s for durability unless you are hucking or something. You can climb pretty easily with them also. I've built a few sets with Hope Pro2 hubs and they are very laterally stiff and maintenance free + seemingly bombproof.

If you want a tough wheel, get it hand built regardless of whichever combination you go with. This is likely more important.

A.

Posted: May 8, 2012 at 17:54 Quote
neex wrote:
Hard to beat the Mavic 819s for durability unless you are hucking or something. You can climb pretty easily with them also. I've built a few sets with Hope Pro2 hubs and they are very laterally stiff and maintenance free + seemingly bombproof.

If you want a tough wheel, get it hand built regardless of whichever combination you go with. This is likely more important.

A.

My main gripe about 819s is that they're not wide enough to support high volume tires. 19mm internal width is less than ideal. The tires I run require a 23mm internal width at least.

Posted: May 14, 2012 at 1:06 Quote
Any alternative for UST DH hoops apart from the EX823? Can't seem to find anything but pre-built wheels. I want to keep my Saint hubs, though, so just need the hoops.

Posted: May 14, 2012 at 6:14 Quote
seraph wrote:
neex wrote:
Hard to beat the Mavic 819s for durability unless you are hucking or something. You can climb pretty easily with them also. I've built a few sets with Hope Pro2 hubs and they are very laterally stiff and maintenance free + seemingly bombproof.

If you want a tough wheel, get it hand built regardless of whichever combination you go with. This is likely more important.

A.


My main gripe about 819s is that they're not wide enough to support high volume tires. 19mm internal width is less than ideal. The tires I run require a 23mm internal width at least.

I've run 2.6 on them without issue although I agree that they run a little thin.

A.

Posted: May 14, 2012 at 9:42 Quote
SwintOrSlude wrote:
Any alternative for UST DH hoops apart from the EX823? Can't seem to find anything but pre-built wheels. I want to keep my Saint hubs, though, so just need the hoops.
Just get different hubs, saint hubs arent very good.

Posted: May 14, 2012 at 13:15 Quote
The front hub rolls really amazingly, the rear has average engagement. Why do you say that?

Posted: May 14, 2012 at 20:02 Quote
loose ball plus the fact that the POE arent anything special to make it worth keeping the loose ball setup

mainly the fact that they're loose ball though.

Posted: May 14, 2012 at 23:46 Quote
It amazes me that Shimano still insists on using the loose ball system for their hubs, even their super high end ones that cost an arm and a leg.

Posted: May 15, 2012 at 0:02 Quote
seraph wrote:
It amazes me that Shimano still insists on using the loose ball system for their hubs, even their super high end ones that cost an arm and a leg.
just one of the many reasons I dont run shimano...

Posted: May 15, 2012 at 2:31 Quote
Well I'd rather have sealed bearings too, but in the end if you service your hubs regularly loose bearings aren't an issue. they came with the bike, so did not pick them.

Posted: May 15, 2012 at 9:09 Quote
SwintOrSlude wrote:
Well I'd rather have sealed bearings too, but in the end if you service your hubs regularly loose bearings aren't an issue. they came with the bike, so did not pick them.

That's the thing; you really shouldn't have to be servicing your hubs "regularly". I prefer the "set it and forget it" method.

Posted: May 15, 2012 at 9:31 Quote
If you're upgrading your wheels why would you keep crappy hubs? You're obviously building wheelset that you plan on keeping for a while seeing as you're using 823's

Posted: May 20, 2012 at 18:01 Quote
Nice Step-By-Step tutorial for beginners........ But the end product, that wheel lying on the ground.... It doesn't look right to me. You sure you laced it properly? What are the top 5 ways to lace a wheel? I've hear of Snowflake, and Radial.... But not quite sure which is which. What's the strongest method?

Posted: May 20, 2012 at 19:54 Quote
roxovanos wrote:
Nice Step-By-Step tutorial for beginners........ But the end product, that wheel lying on the ground.... It doesn't look right to me. You sure you laced it properly? What are the top 5 ways to lace a wheel? I've hear of Snowflake, and Radial.... But not quite sure which is which. What's the strongest method?

3-cross is tried-and-true. I build almost every wheel 3-cross, though sometimes I branch out and do 3-cross driveside and 2-cross non-drive, unless it's a disc brake wheel.

Posted: May 22, 2012 at 21:28 Quote
seraph wrote:
roxovanos wrote:
Nice Step-By-Step tutorial for beginners........ But the end product, that wheel lying on the ground.... It doesn't look right to me. You sure you laced it properly? What are the top 5 ways to lace a wheel? I've hear of Snowflake, and Radial.... But not quite sure which is which. What's the strongest method?


3-cross is tried-and-true. I build almost every wheel 3-cross, though sometimes I branch out and do 3-cross driveside and 2-cross non-drive, unless it's a disc brake wheel.

number of spokes/9 give you the number of cross you can do, usually 28h are cross 2x, 32h 3x, 36h 3x or 4x, 48h 4x or 5x
bu there is also other thing to consider, like when using a hub with very large flange in a small rim, you'll want to cross less. like and electric motor in a 24" rim 36h would be cross 1x.
rohloff say their hub should be laced 2x for 26" and smaller for the same reason, thhe spokes would come at to much angle at the rim and make it more prone to nipple failure.
there is some rims with more angle in the holes and you can always redrill it yourself, but it's much easier to use shorter spokes and cross 1 time less when you need to.
with that said. 99% of the wheel are 32h/36h 3x
when using different pattern on the drive side and non-drive side of a dished wheel it is to compensated for the different tension on both side


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