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Posted: Jun 13, 2012 at 13:22 Quote
Fair enough.... then again i suppose you dont actually need it for the first few nipples because they poke through

Posted: Jun 13, 2012 at 21:40 Quote
...still feeling like an ass for the miss on magic brass magnetism.... Thanks for the clarity. I'm going to have to source on of these tools. It sounds perfect.

A.

Posted: Jun 13, 2012 at 21:44 Quote
neex wrote:
...still feeling like an ass for the miss on magic brass magnetism.... Thanks for the clarity. I'm going to have to source on of these tools. It sounds perfect.

A.

I wish I could help you on where to get one, but the one we have at work was already there when I started working.

Edit: nvm, just looked in our distributor and found it. Here's the link for the product on the company's website: http://wheelsmfg.com/aero-rim-nipple-starter.html

Posted: Jun 25, 2012 at 6:38 Quote
Hi,
Can someone please help me out. What size spokes do I need for a deemax hub and rim?
Cheers

Posted: Jun 25, 2012 at 9:38 Quote
dreamrider12 wrote:
Hi,
Can someone please help me out. What size spokes do I need for a deemax hub and rim?
Cheers

You need straight pull Mavic spokes. They are proprietary and they come with special Deemax nipples that thread into the rim.

Posted: Jun 29, 2012 at 5:25 Quote
Also after a little help... Very confused I am going to be building a F519 rim on to a Hope Bulb (old skool ish Razz). Using a spoke calculator, I need 260.9mm and 262.2mm spokes for a 3 cross build. Available sizes are 260, 262 and 264mm on CRC.

You'll have to excuse me as it's been 8 years since I built my first and only wheel! But should I go up a size for each side (i.e. 262mm and 264mm), or will I get away with one pack of 262mm spokes? Thinking that the spokes are going to stretch, I reckon 262s all round will be fine - and I seem to remember on my previous build that I only used one pack of spokes, so they must have been all the same size... (that build was a Bulb and Halo Combat)

Any advice much appreciated! Trying to save money by DIYing, will get it tensioned and trued by the LBS, they will do it a lot better than I can! Razz
Edited to say, I think I'll be giving up and sending it to the LBS... Probably a bit easier Wink

Posted: Aug 20, 2012 at 9:35 Quote
If you are serious about building wheels everyday, I really recommend an EVT mulfinger.
http://www.efficientvelo.com/tools/wheel-hub.html

I work in a very busy, professional service department. I don't have time to use a spring loaded driver or a spoke threaded in backwards. I use a mulfinger, a drill, and a spoke wrench every day for my wheel builds.

Posted: Aug 20, 2012 at 9:52 Quote
leftsidedrive wrote:
If you are serious about building wheels everyday, I really recommend an EVT mulfinger.
http://www.efficientvelo.com/tools/wheel-hub.html

I work in a very busy, professional service department. I don't have time to use a spring loaded driver or a spoke threaded in backwards. I use a mulfinger, a drill, and a spoke wrench every day for my wheel builds.

Most people don't built wheels every day. I build maybe a set of wheels once a month. For my job the spring-loaded nipple threading tool works great. I prefer to take my time with my wheel builds.

Posted: Aug 20, 2012 at 12:59 Quote
seraph wrote:
leftsidedrive wrote:
If you are serious about building wheels everyday, I really recommend an EVT mulfinger.
http://www.efficientvelo.com/tools/wheel-hub.html

I work in a very busy, professional service department. I don't have time to use a spring loaded driver or a spoke threaded in backwards. I use a mulfinger, a drill, and a spoke wrench every day for my wheel builds.


Most people don't built wheels every day. I build maybe a set of wheels once a month. For my job the spring-loaded nipple threading tool works great. I prefer to take my time with my wheel builds.

Awesome!

There are many ways to skin a cat. If you have a few extra dollars, I recommend ordering an EVT tool or two. His tools are hands down the best in the business and are straight up tool porn. They will make the little tedious tasks of everyday bike mechanics much easier.

Posted: Oct 15, 2012 at 20:46 Quote
Do I get points for creativity? It's bound to at least confuse some people for a few minutes when they examine it.

This is a result of a spoke length issue and nothing better to do. It seems that the spoke length calculator lied to me. I gave it all the info it asked for, and it spit out 266mm spokes. Sounded about right, so I ordered them. As soon as I got them, it was pretty clear they were too long for a 3x and too short for a 4x. For lack of anything else, I started trying random spoke patterns that I made up as I went along. So two questions:
1) I'm sure twisted spoke patterns aren't the strongest, but it might take up some of the slack so I can use these, right?
2) Is there a good way to use these spokes to figure out how long I should of gotten my spokes?

Posted: Oct 15, 2012 at 22:28 Quote
LordFly wrote:

Do I get points for creativity? It's bound to at least confuse some people for a few minutes when they examine it.

This is a result of a spoke length issue and nothing better to do. It seems that the spoke length calculator lied to me. I gave it all the info it asked for, and it spit out 266mm spokes. Sounded about right, so I ordered them. As soon as I got them, it was pretty clear they were too long for a 3x and too short for a 4x. For lack of anything else, I started trying random spoke patterns that I made up as I went along. So two questions:
1) I'm sure twisted spoke patterns aren't the strongest, but it might take up some of the slack so I can use these, right?
2) Is there a good way to use these spokes to figure out how long I should of gotten my spokes?

I don't think that you can use wrong length spokes to figure out the correct length. That makes absolutely no sense. You will have to take measurements on your hub and rim and then input that information into a proper spoke calculator. If you give me the measurements (rim ERD, hub OLD, right and left flange diameter, and right and left center to flange measurement, along with number of spoke holes and brand of spoke used) then I can use the spoke calculator that I always use for my wheel builds.

Posted: Oct 16, 2012 at 5:18 Quote
I will have to get all the measurements again when I get home. This was the calculator I used: Calculator

I know the ERD is 541 Sun Ringle Equalizer 31 And I believe the hub flange is 58mm and ..... ahh crap. I think I used the calculator wrong. That says HUB CENTER to flange center. I think I used flange to flange which was 62mm. If I put in 31mm get a number about 5mm shorter, which would probably be about right Madder
Anyone want to trade some 261's for some 266's Wink

Posted: Oct 16, 2012 at 9:20 Quote
LordFly wrote:
I will have to get all the measurements again when I get home. This was the calculator I used: Calculator

I know the ERD is 541 Sun Ringle Equalizer 31 And I believe the hub flange is 58mm and ..... ahh crap. I think I used the calculator wrong. That says HUB CENTER to flange center. I think I used flange to flange which was 62mm. If I put in 31mm get a number about 5mm shorter, which would probably be about right Madder
Anyone want to trade some 261's for some 266's Wink


Left center to flange measurement is OLD/2-A and right center to flange measurement is OLD/2-B.

Posted: Oct 16, 2012 at 11:29 Quote
So where that calculator says "Hub Center to Flange Center", I want to enter the the average of WL and WR? Or I guess if they're really different, get half the spokes calculated with WL and the other half with WR?

Posted: Oct 16, 2012 at 11:39 Quote
LordFly wrote:
So where that calculator says "Hub Center to Flange Center", I want to enter the the average of WL and WR? Or I guess if they're really different, get half the spokes calculated with WL and the other half with WR?

No, you do not average anything. You get left center-to-flange measurement and right center-to-flange measurements. You input both of those measurements into the spoke calculator.

Get me your hub measurements and I can figure out the spoke lengths for you. What kind of hub is it?


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