2013 Diamondback - Scapegoat - Win One!

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sethd (Jul 24, 2012 at 0:48)

yeah ive gotten my gf into downhill. i built up a spare mission frame to scapegoat specs. we are actually heading to northstar and downieville this coming weekend!

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sopro13 (Jul 24, 2012 at 19:32)

Nice northstar is tha shiiiit.

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rffr (Jul 24, 2012 at 21:48)

Good shit on Nstar, but Downieville... better bring a few XC bikes. Weak as hell at Downie.

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sethd (Jul 24, 2012 at 23:14)

got the sortie 29er and my mason all ready to go too so im not trippin hahha

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Williss (Aug 14, 2012 at 19:54)

you probably have the best gf ever Razz

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sethd (Aug 15, 2012 at 12:51)

haha she's a trip just like all girls but the fact that she enjoys my hobbies just as much if not more than i do is always a plus haha

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Williss (Aug 22, 2012 at 22:07)

you know how hard it is to find girls who like biking? damn near impossible! haha

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si618 (Jul 24, 2012 at 0:54)

Security fail on the diamondback website. I never give out info to companies that can't even be arsed to use TLS/SSL when asking for personal information just ripe for identity theft.

If they can't get something that basic right, then chances are the rest of their security is as weak as piss. Even better is how the sign up url has "secure" in the path to boot Smile

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Sam-smith1 (Jul 24, 2012 at 4:37)

They look just like the older commencal metas...

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si618 (Jul 24, 2012 at 5:49)

The bike looks like it would be fun to ride though, and maybe the site admin or devs will read this and respond?

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feds (Jul 24, 2012 at 8:17) (Below Threshold) show comment

XTR shifter and dr? ....Seriously? (edit) What I'm getting at with that is that they should have at least gone for the good/better/best component specs and offered two or three bikes. For a company just making a name in the gravity scene, asking 6 grand for their one and only DH bike seems a bike crazy.

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bradwalton Plus (Jul 24, 2012 at 8:20)

XTR keeps the weight down, and the clutch derailleur makes the bike totally stealthy. New Saint probably isn't available yet even for OEM spec.

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bradwalton Plus (Jul 24, 2012 at 8:28)

Also, it's not their DH bike. DB may have a DH bike available next year. For now, the Goat is aimed at a specific purpose, and they must have felt that there is less competition with the rest of the industry with a bike specced as top-end.

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gticlay (Jul 24, 2012 at 10:08)

I like the bike. Almost exactly how I built my Nomad, except you get a cooler black Float 180 and I'm stuck with the white.

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matthill1971 (Jul 24, 2012 at 15:33)

Agreed, looks just like my meta AM, colour and graphics placement, why think of something new when you can just copy

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rffr (Jul 24, 2012 at 21:51)

Wait, they aren't taking cc info, so honestly, how the hell will someone "steal" your identity. Because they know your name and address *chuckles*.
If you are worried about signing up for websites, pleased to let you know, 99.999999999 % of those sites have little to no security. Payments is a whole different ordeal, so why bitch about something used for payments, not being used to sign up to a website where absolutely 0 bank information is given.

O and Sony used TLS/SSL... that means the mere sending of information is semi protected, but that doesn't mean their DB is protected what so ever. You si618 my friend have a whole LOT to learn about network security.

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si618 (Jul 24, 2012 at 23:49)

@rffr, agreed that TLS only means traffic is encrypted, and even that is still suspect-able to MITM attacks. I also agree that ID thieves need more than just email, name and address, but it gives them a good starting point, and as I said, it's an indication that they haven't given security much thought, so everything else is probably weak. I confirmed with fiddler that no traffic was encrypted, so they won't get my details. You of course are free to do as you please Smile

Payment systems are important, but that's not the same as ID theft, and regardless, I prefer use of escrow services as I've seen how dodgy some sites can be, storing full cc details, etc. I'm also aware of the huge number of poorly trained web developers out there, which is why I use custom email addresses (good way to detect spam sellers) and unique cryptographically strong passwords (keepass ftw) for any sites I do sign up to.

Been on the net since '91 and never been compromised, so I may not know as much as you, but I know enough to keep safe.

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Ihsaan (Jul 25, 2012 at 1:15)

is there any one know that Diamondback frame produce by one of the Bicycle company in Asia/ Indonesia?, is it true?

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raging-hippo (Jul 24, 2012 at 4:48)

Is everybody getting the email confirmations promptly? Its been a good hour and a confirmation that I completed the quiz hasn't come through.

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raging-hippo (Jul 24, 2012 at 5:32) (Below Threshold) show comment

Coming from the very same lad who thought it was 6000 pounds lol. You should just give me the frame bud, i think I am more than deserving considering how helpful I was earlier! Is that a yes, certainly, I hear? Awesome, thanks! I knew you'd agree, young whippersnappers these days are so kind.

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CaptainLip (Jul 24, 2012 at 5:35)

Erm....im 6 years OLDER than you, lmao, some whippersnapper

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shredds (Jul 24, 2012 at 9:19)

yeah i took the quiz last night and still haven't gotten mine.

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beattyrandall (Jul 24, 2012 at 12:03)

It says on the contest page, "At the end of 7 days, all contestants will get email. The winner will be notified while others may receive special offers to purchase."

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easty123 (Jul 24, 2012 at 14:05)

you dont understand at the end of the quiz it says "you will receive a confirmation email shortly with details how to proceed shortly. sit tight." most likely meaning withen a few minutes

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raging-hippo (Jul 24, 2012 at 19:20)

Easty123 knows what hes on about.

CaptainLip you didn't neg prop me did you? I used the word Whippersnapper! All these amercians and Canadians, they dont understand Australian/British humor.

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radrider (Jul 24, 2012 at 20:17)

what humor

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raging-hippo (Jul 24, 2012 at 21:14)

This is a darn shame

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The-Medic (Jul 29, 2012 at 2:23)

@raging hippo: Don't lump us ALL in mate... I live in OZ for 2+ years and I'm a dual citizen: Scottish/US but I am an American and i most certainly "get" the humor... you should see the look I get calling people hoons, laricans, and bogans etc...

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malvern (Jul 24, 2012 at 0:39)

That is actually such a sweet looking frame and the spec reads like a freerider's wishlist, good to see Diamondback really offering some decent competition to the industry's bigger players.

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max14221 (Jul 24, 2012 at 3:58)

any ideas when we can get them in the uk

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Gingymp5 (Jul 24, 2012 at 11:20)

I hate how these bikes usually end up going to some rider who already has a sick downhill bike.Why don't they ever ask what you are riding right now?

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radrider (Jul 24, 2012 at 20:37)

because that would be called a charity contest. and everyone would lie about there bike...if you dont have a good bike its most likely because you arnt dedicated enough or are still living of your parents, either way it doesnt make you more worthy of a $6000 bike.

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Hardtalefan (Jul 24, 2012 at 10:19)

@ JRohlik - I totally agree about the home build issue. I have a BS in Aircraft Maint. and structures from Embry Riddle. 25+ years hands on with both hilicopters and Mountain Bikes. Put myself through college working at the LBS and racing. Now some punk say's that I am not adept with my hands any more! Anyone at DB remember a couple of MEN named WRIGHT? We all know were the sticker really belongs, I'll go take my meds now.

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The-Medic (Jul 29, 2012 at 2:19)

DO you mean Embry REYNOLDS??? And Helicopters??? I think you need to take LESS meds. mate cause you're post makes ZERO sense... Maybe you posted it in the wrong place???

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yoya539 (Jul 24, 2012 at 4:31)

I passed and it told me i'll get an e mail but nothing showed up? what is the problem?

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easty123 (Jul 24, 2012 at 8:53)

same here, wondering whats up

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yoya539 (Jul 24, 2012 at 23:18)

Still havent got anything Frown

i wanted to get in the contest so much!

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easty123 (Jul 25, 2012 at 12:39)

me too i'm still a little angry because it says if you enter twice you are disqualified for winning it so i dont want to chance anything

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JRohlik (Jul 24, 2012 at 4:15)

I won't ever buy a company's product where the warranty says that if I build up the bike at my home, I've voided the warranty... really? cause all the techs at the LBS are soooooooooo much smarter with a higher mechanical aptitude than myself, a mech engineer and a former LBS bike tech.... HA! Hey Diamondback, instead of trying to find ways to screw your consumers, why don't you put that effort into actually building rock solid frames?! awwww, u mad bro? Piss on Diamondback and their shitty bikes...

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CaptainLip (Jul 24, 2012 at 4:38)

the fact we have earnt the CYTECH qualification stands out from the usual "experianced" home mechanic.

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magoo8975 (Jul 24, 2012 at 9:18)

Why?, just because you have a certificate doesn't mean you/or anyone else with one are any good. If it wasn't for the requirement to have one for some bike shops (shimano service centres etc etc) to have them, they prob wouldn't spend the money on the training if they were a competent mechanic ("home" or any other label you want to stick on it). I'm self taught and would happily put my self taught skills up against anyone with a Cytech certificate..Wheel building, suspension servicing, name your poison. I've even taught a few people a thing or 2 who work in bike shops with certificates when I've worked there (ie..fixed the shit they couldn't).

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CaptainLip (Jul 24, 2012 at 9:30)

Utter Nonsense

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Spthomas (Jul 24, 2012 at 9:36)

I'd have to agree with magoo, our main mechanic is not WBI certified (Winterborne bicycle institute) and his work is just great as our other mechanic who happens to teach for the Waterloo Winterborne course. My boss trusts him as he has shown his aptitude many times to us, such that he can do everything but brake bleeds when my boss is around, as he gets his hands dirty as much as possible.

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drfunsocks (Jul 24, 2012 at 9:48)

dude ur talking absolute crap. a certificate doesnt make you automatically the best at something. who do you really think is goin to be better at somthing, a guy with a year or two experience and a certificate or a guy whos been servicing their own bikes for donkeys years. practical based skills require practice

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CaptainLip (Jul 24, 2012 at 9:49)

Did I say that? funny how someone can constitute those words out of nothing. seriously im not that stupid to believe paper is better than hands on.

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taletotell (Jul 24, 2012 at 11:51)

Sure you can be good at brain surgery without some piEce of paper, but I'll stick with the guys who have their MD. Seems like a no brainer. I am a bike tech with no certification, and while I trust my work there is no reason anyone else should unless I prove I know what I'm doing. That is what the paper does.

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radrider (Jul 24, 2012 at 20:27)

So because some dumby might have never heard of a torque wrench etc, dimaondback should just send replacements because of your errors?.I'm not saying that there aren't a great deal of riders who can set up a bike properly but there are defiantly some people who cannot. I would seriously wonder about a company that allows warranty for products assembled by unqualified people.

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diamondbackbikes (Jul 26, 2012 at 11:39)

Hey all… We apologize if you have not received the confirmation email from us. Our web team is working to ensure that you all have this now and you should be receiving this shortly. The email confirmations go out in batches each day. If you have not received your confirmation email, you may want to check your spam filter as it’s likely that it landed there. Those who still not get one may have typed in their email address incorrectly.

The majority of entrants have already received theirs though. I can confirm that.

Thanks for your patience.

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chester94 (Jul 31, 2012 at 13:46)

iv not had a email yet telling me if iv won the bike or not when is a winner being picked?

cheers

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sethd (Jul 24, 2012 at 20:42)

At the end of seven days from WHEN THE VIDEO WAS POSTED is when they will contact the winner. I received an email saying that I passed the quiz and I was to be entered into the raffle within five mins of finishing the quiz Most likely they are so swamped with entries it's just taking the system awhile. Just sit tight nobody has won yet

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sethd (Jul 24, 2012 at 0:11)

i love my mission and goat. wouldnt go with any other bikes

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sunpunkMTB (Jul 25, 2012 at 9:26)

If I'm reading the details correctly, we should have gotten an email with further instructions right after taking the quiz. Best guess is said email would have then explained the video/photo/story essay mentioned in the contest rules. I took the quiz yesterday and still no email. Sounds like everyone is waiting for it.

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powderturns (Jul 24, 2012 at 7:57)

brake and shifter lines down the full length of the downtube? what the F? this is a park/shuttle bike. unreal - can't believe anyone still does this. giant does it too. that'd be the first change I'd make...

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bradwalton Plus (Jul 25, 2012 at 13:13)

Well, it does protect your paint. Not likely that having the bike on a tailgate pad would damage the brake line. Shifter housing is disposable anyways. Doesn't seem like an issue, but I'm sure it has been for someone, somewhere.

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DunX (Jul 24, 2012 at 0:24)

Ive got the 2010 and am going for the upgrade!! they are great!

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mcpayner94 (Jul 24, 2012 at 0:13)

I've never really been a big fan of the Diamondback's, but that bike looks so so sick! Would be rude not to do the quiz!

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DunX (Jul 24, 2012 at 0:43)

Ive got one of the new Diamondback DH coming as well!!

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sethd (Jul 24, 2012 at 0:28)

yeah i've been spending a lot of time on my mission just cause there aren't any bike parks in so cal but i took out the goat and i climbed just as good so ill probably sell it haha. i already have a db mason pre ordered through the lbs and soon that new syncline Smile

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pow4all (Jul 24, 2012 at 4:20)

does anyone of you know the weight of this bike/frame? With components as per DB spec?

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shishka (Jul 24, 2012 at 7:29)

Very interesting setup with 160x180 travel. All these new 160-180mm bikes are extremely tempting. I probably go with giant or spec but this db look tight.

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jimeg (Jul 24, 2012 at 8:36)

I was wondering the same thing about the mismatched travel. Why run so much more travel in the front? Gravity bikes generally run a little more sag in the rear, so shouldn't the rear need to be equal to or greater in travel than the front? Aesthetically, that bike looks great and I know that Knucklebox design is STOUT.

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jimeg (Jul 24, 2012 at 8:45)

Can you add "All Mountain" or "Trail Rider" or "Enduro" or the like? There is a big segment of riders between XC and Freeride.

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hamncheez (Jul 24, 2012 at 18:08)

at 1:04, I think he is riding that stupid trail called Holly. The stupid lifty told me to ride it down, it was a 'DH' trail, and ti sucked balls and took a half hour to get down.

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miff (Jul 24, 2012 at 7:31)

I hope they actually give you 2013 parts with the winning bike.

Looks pretty average though. For the new price one could get a far better bike. Carbon Nomad anyone? Cove G-Spot?

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smike (Jul 24, 2012 at 8:27)

I don't think you'll find very many other bikes with a build like this for that price. Sure, you could build a NomadC for that price but the parts won't be nearly that good.

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miff (Jul 25, 2012 at 7:47)

hm... nomad with a FULL xt build or this piece of shit for the same price. I know what I'm taking. Not saying this is a shit bike, it's just damn poor value for a crappy and unproven platform from a mediocre brand name.

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bradwalton Plus (Jul 25, 2012 at 8:39)

A Nomad isn't a comparable bike to the Scapegoat. Have a look at DB's Mission series if you want to compare to Nomad. You will find the DB Mission Pro to have a similar level of spec to the highest end Nomad spec that costs $2k more. Two thousand dollars is significantly different- you could buy a DB Mission Pro and a Mason AM hardtail for the same price as the Nomad.

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cascadiacollective (Aug 1, 2012 at 9:14)

Yeah and a nomad would outperform it without a doubt. Best bike purchase you can make.

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disbrainer (Jul 24, 2012 at 0:18)

more gravity-oriented Canyon Strive Wink

I like it anyway Smile

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jdlsalle (Jul 24, 2012 at 9:02)

I did the quiz and I haven't received the email confirmation. Has anyone got the email confirmation that you've entered?

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wastedqba (Jul 24, 2012 at 15:07)

I like this bike...
Is this "contest" for US citizens only? They aren't asking about country, but they are asking about state...

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BDKR (Jul 26, 2012 at 11:09)

Egads! DB responding back! Good on you guys for getting it sorted. :-)

Now pull my name out of the hat! The more bikes the better.

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yoonytoons (Jul 24, 2012 at 13:10)

Never got confirmation email... whats the next step? I want this bike and some waffle fries...FOR FREE

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TouchMeslowly (Jul 24, 2012 at 11:28)

If i win this bike.... im going to give it to some homeless guy. lol Diamondback

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joshualovesmtb (Jul 24, 2012 at 13:28)

if you give that to a hobo, ill kill you, you give it to me!!

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Varaxis (Jul 27, 2012 at 0:19)

What's special about weapons grade 6061 aluminum? I googled it and it appears to be more than a marketing ploy, offering advantages over aircraft grade 6061 T6 aluminum.

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erdadh (Jul 24, 2012 at 12:04)

they said,you will recieve mail shortly,so little bit guys im waiting mail too

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socks-n-sandles (Jul 24, 2012 at 12:15)

does every one automatically "pass" or do you actually have to get the questions right. and same im still waiting for my email too.

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RichJones (Jul 24, 2012 at 0:57)

I had one of these two weeks of whistler and the frame cracked all I'm sayin!

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taletotell (Jul 24, 2012 at 4:23)

What year? Some of the earlier ones had problems and DB was way nice about the warranty. The new frames have made up for the weaknesses in the early models I have heard.

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loaded (Jul 24, 2012 at 8:38)

That bike has always had the nicest parts spec with the worst frame, knuckle box is no bueno

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BDKR (Jul 24, 2012 at 12:48)

That thing is sex! It just might be time to replace the Khyber Elite?

Maybe...... :-)

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danietto (Jul 24, 2012 at 6:28)

As you get closer to this bike, the more uglier it gets...
That "nucklebox" looks like some piece of metal they found at a garage sale. At apprx 4100 EUR i find it expensive. Of course this is just another opinion.

i would definitely stick w my own similarly pivoted, but so-much-more-finely-designed Canyon Strive at 2700 EUR.
www.canyon.com/_en/mountainbikes/bike.html?b=2570

chhers Smile

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themountain (Jul 24, 2012 at 12:57)

6K for a mediocre bike...?? No thanks!!

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chester94 (Jul 26, 2012 at 15:54)

anyone else wanting this to get off the home page so less people see it and you have a better chance of winning?.

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gticlay (Jul 26, 2012 at 11:18)

Has anyone received a reply e-mail after entering? I'm still waiting two days later.

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itster (Jul 24, 2012 at 9:13)

my email confermation hasnt come through yet has that happened with nyone else???

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CaptainLip (Jul 24, 2012 at 10:25)

maybe they have stopped sending the emails out because I got the confirmation that I won one of the bikes. dont know makes sense though

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taletotell (Jul 24, 2012 at 11:59)

I hope you are lying

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phillyp (Jul 24, 2012 at 7:39)

burly

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panzer103 (Jul 24, 2012 at 2:54)

How did the DHX work for you guys?

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adamlaycock (Jul 24, 2012 at 1:34)

Yaaaay I passed first try! Big Grin

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DunX (Jul 24, 2012 at 0:20)

Mine should arrive within the next few weeks!! cant wait!!

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sethd (Jul 24, 2012 at 0:21)

you'll love it. had an 09 goat then switched to the 2011 most fun bike i've ever ridden.

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max14221 (Jul 24, 2012 at 7:15)

dunx were did you get yours from

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DunX (Jul 26, 2012 at 6:53)

They are coming from Raleigh UK (same company)

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yoya539 (Jul 24, 2012 at 3:33)

i need that bike so much! i gotta win this one!

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kameraguy (Jul 24, 2012 at 23:11)

My favorite part of that bike is the black float 180.

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mac1999 (Jul 30, 2012 at 9:26)

I want this bike more than anything in the world right now Smile

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Jansef21 (Jul 25, 2012 at 1:44)

still waiting for e-mail confirmation(

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Jansef21 (Jul 26, 2012 at 12:33)

received))want to win this bike so much!!)

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guando (Jul 24, 2012 at 12:34)

Moore looks like FOCUS PROJECT 2010 Smile

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MOLDTRUTH (Jul 24, 2012 at 9:48)

I had hoped for big things from Diamond Back, the 6 k price tag is NOT justified for this bike. A Scott Voltage or a Transition Bottle Rocket would be a far better choice for alot less. The Diamond Back seems a little to much for cross country and not enough for a great day at Whistler.

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shredwhiteandblue (Jul 24, 2012 at 11:19)

but for someone who will only have 1 bike, this will do fairly well in all disciplines. granted, if someone has 6k to throw into a bike, chances are they'll have more than 1

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vertr (Jul 24, 2012 at 11:43)

A Bottle Rocket is better? Are you kidding?

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Dirtjump15 (Jul 26, 2012 at 15:54)

I just got my confermation email.

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NaTHAnLOVe (Jul 24, 2012 at 11:30)

any one else not getting the email back after doing the quiz?

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Thisdoodlikesfood (Jul 24, 2012 at 19:08)

I'm not but I think you get one at the end of seven days when the contest is over and it will tell you if you won or not

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Gingymp5 (Jul 24, 2012 at 11:35)

yoya 539. What are you riding now? Do you really need it?

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yoya539 (Jul 24, 2012 at 23:13)

Well I ride am with my haro flight line comp hard tail and I am broke, so yes it is possible to say I "need" it. I also do a little dh but the bike doesn't allow much.

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yoya539 (Jul 24, 2012 at 23:20)

I also have a really ghetto old mutant x ray for street but it is old and ghetto and not really a freeride machine.

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Jansef21 (Jul 24, 2012 at 12:19)

Can the Ukrainian take part in that???

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goober6801 (Jul 24, 2012 at 0:54)

I'll have one as soon as I win one lol!!!

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Thisdoodlikesfood (Jul 24, 2012 at 19:09)

Me to haha (mean stare)

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bikerl3oy (Jul 24, 2012 at 14:29)

gotta love how the team rider has Marzocchi all around! smart guy Smile

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andrzejps (Aug 2, 2012 at 0:38)

any luck for anybody?

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T1mb0 (Jul 24, 2012 at 8:59)

Looks like an old Commencal Meta Rolleyes

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conrad1575 (Jul 24, 2012 at 4:27)

Price is 6 grand? Just me or is that way too much... Thats like the price of a Demo 8!

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weezyb (Jul 24, 2012 at 7:24)

I was thinking the exact same thing. I'd say it needs to be at least 2 grand less to even bother looking at.

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CaptainLip (Jul 24, 2012 at 1:45)

sell the frame, keep the components

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2013 Diamondback - Scapegoat - Win One!

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