2014 Niner WFO 9: 150-Millimeter-Travel AM/Enduro Shredder

Aug 28, 2013
by Richard Cunningham  
 
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Niner WFO-9 2014 side shot
  Niner's 150-millimeter-travel WFO 9 is finished in matte black with subdued graphics that underscores its mission statement as a no-compromise entrant into the gravity-sports arena.


Niner showed Pinkbike its prototype WFO 9 a while back at the Enduro World Series in Winter Park, Colorado. The real deal was unveiled at Eurobike, and it looks to be a winner. The WFO-9 follows the profile of Niner's recent mid-travel 29ers like the Jet and RDO, but there have been significant improvements and changes throughout the new chassis in order to stretch the suspension travel of the welded aluminum frame to 150 millimeters. The WFO 9's top tube has been shortened 20 millimeters to help center the rider between the wheels, and 20 millimeters has been shaved from the head tube to lower the handlebars. With a 160 millimeter stroke RockShox Pike RCT3 fork, the WFO's basic geometry lends itself well for gravity-oriented riders. The head angle is 67 degrees, while the calculated seat angle is around 75 degrees, depending upon the saddle height. Niner proudly states that the new WFO 9 is intended to be a gravity bike for bike park senders, but with effective pedaling action from its CVA dual-link suspension and a claimed weight of 28.7 pounds, Niner adds that is an near- perfect choice for European-style enduro racing. WFO 9s will arrive at dealers around December '13, with the price as-shown pegged at $4999, and the frame and Monarch RC3 reservoir shock set at $2099 USD. Colors are Atomic Blue or Racer Red.

Niner WFO-9 2014 frame details
  (From left) WFO 9 suspension is Niner's patented Constantly Varying Arc dual-link design, with beefed up rockers, 15-millimeter shafts at all pivot locations and a smooth leverage rate designed to keep the bike pinned to the earth. Forged dropouts are optimized for a 142/12 millimeter through axle and the left side integrates post-type brake caliper mounts. the WFO 9's super-strong rear derailleur hanger is almost ten millimeters thick to keep the changer tracking the cogs instead of removing spokes after a crash.


Construction

Niner claims that the WFO 9's stand-over height is only 27.5 inches (40cm), which is low for a short-travel XC bike. Even if it were only close to that number, that is outstanding stand-over clearance for a 29er of any type. The chassis is intended to fit tires up to 2.5 inches, although the use of the largest DH carcasses will eat up most of the bike's mud clearance in the rear, where much engineering was done to keep the WFO 9's chainstays short, while guiding its massive 29-inch tire away from the rider's bum at full compression. Shod with Schwalbe 2.35-inch Nobby Nic tires, which is one of the largest in its class, there is barely one centimeter of air between the rubber and the frame in all directions. Niner's designers wanted the WFO 9's rear end as short as possible to give the bike an agile feel in the turns. Niner's choice of the travel-adjustable Pike RCT3 fork allows riders to drop the fork 35 millimeters, steepening the steering geometry by over one degree and lowering the handlebar by about one and a half inches. Future enduro racers can use the feature to transform the WFO into a better climber for transfer stages.

Niner WFO-9 2014 suspension
  Niner's CVA rear suspension is driven by RockShox's very capable Monarch RC3 reservoir damper and backed up by the fork which may become the must-have for 2014 - the new Pike is the best slider to come from RockShox in a long time.


The chassis is designed exclusively for a single-chainring drivetrain and thus, there is no provision for a front changer. The seat tube is rectangular where a band clamp would normally sit. Niner provisions the WFO with an ISCG-05 chainguide mount and cable routing for an internal-style dropper seatpost. Why Niner does not furnish dropper posts on its technical trailbike models is a mystery to us. Be sure to calculate the price of a dropper post into the final purchase price of this otherwise perfectly spec'ed machine. Looking at the frame's curving tubes, there is evidence everywhere on the chassis of Niner's air-form process which uses heat and pressure to shape its aluminum pipes to better handle the various stresses that ravage the chassis in the downhill environment. To maximize the welding area of the shortened head tube, Niner uses internal head set cups. Cane Creek AngleSet headsets will fit the WFO 9 should you decide on a custom steering angle.

Niner WFO-9 2014 details
  (From Left) The travel adjust dial on the WFO 9's left-side crown toggles the air-sprung fork's stroke from 160 to 125 millimeters. Niner's stout 50-millimeter stem clamps a carbon fiber 780-millimeter zero-rise Niner Flat Top handlebar - low bars are a must for long-travel 29ers. No provision for a front changer here. Niner dedicated the WFO to SRAM's X01 one-by eleven transmission, but we suspect that Shimano will announce its eleven-speed one-by XTR group as early as the Interbike show next month. Internal headset bearings further reduce the handlebar stack of the WFO 9.


Standout Components

Niner will offer the WFO at two price points and as a frame and shock. The top, Four-Star build shown here is quite affordable considering its direct competition in the AM/enduro segment. The bike is built around SRAM's X01 transmission with the X1 aluminum crank option and a 32-tooth chainring, and as we documented, the bike rides on the best mid-travel suspension items to come out of RockShox in two decades. It rolls on a 29-millimeter-wide Stan's ZR Flow EX tubeless wheelset, which provide excellent torsional stability for large-volume tires. The seatpost is a Niner item, topped by a comfortable Niner-logo WTB Volt Race saddle. Brakes are Avid's X9 Trails, with powerful four-piston calipers squeezing 160 rear and a 180-millimeter front rotors. Beyond the missing dropper seatpost, there is little if anything left to want from the WFO 9's build. All accounted for, Niner's new WFO 9 looks to be a winner.

Niner WFO 9 Geometry

Niner WFO 9 geometry chart


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157 Comments

  • + 50
 29ers don't interest me, but this does. "but we suspect that Shimano will announce its eleven-speed one-by XTR group as early as the Interbike show next month"

I'll be in the cue..
  • + 9
 I'll stick with my XT 2x10 for the next three years thank you... Bikes these days advance faster than computers.
  • + 15
 Okay, so stick with your drivetrain. What does that have to do with what he said other than to insult his choice in drive train? I don't get people like you.
  • + 52
 Can't see any insult. Maybe you're too sensitive. Why would you insult him for his opinion? I don't get people like you sir!
  • + 94
 LOUD NOISES... I DONT KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT!
  • - 3
 'Bike park senders' ?? no. Downhill? No. I would like to see Richard Cunningham slay the Canadian open dh on this rig.
  • + 7
 @makripper how about you try riding it before making generalizations like that?
  • - 8
 saint 2x9
  • + 3
 66 ha for a 29er??? that means almost 64 in feel in a 26er!!!!

are ha getting slacker and slacker or is it only my brain??
  • + 0
 flockynockynihilipilification if you can post a video of you pronouncing this ill give you $20
  • - 1
 1xcutdown9spdcassetto6spd bb thnx
  • - 2
 @harrybeaumont it's called common sense. this is an all mountain bike. dont market it as a DH shredding park machine! Until I see some actual footage of someone riding gnarly ass shit on this bike, I won't look at it twice or think of it when i'm looking to buy a new downhill bike for 2014. are you??
  • - 3
 Thanks @donch15 i'll give it a read! done.. theres some good sugar coating there.. saying it was the fastest he's ridden down the DH part on an all mountain bike. good show. hahaha
  • + 2
 @makripper: From the article:

"Rather, I’ll let the W.F.O. stand on its own merits as the fastest All Mountain bike that I’ve had the pleasure of riding down a proper DH line."

"...the WFO became my go-to ride when I wanted to get sideways on rowdy trails."

"In fact, flying the big 29′er felt totally natural back to back with my DH rig"

"The speed, stability, and traction of the W.F.O. had me feeling rather invincible and honestly, the bike handled every crazy line I had the balls to try without complaint."

Seems like a little more than sugar coating a negative review. Not sure what article you were reading...they must teach reading comprehension differently up there to the north.
  • - 5
 I saw those parts, but this one was the only direct comment on riding DH!!

"There are so many data points that are much different than any 26″ bike that I’ve ridden that it would be pointless to try and draw a simple parallel between them. Rather, I’ll let the W.F.O. stand on its own merits as the fastest All Mountain bike that I’ve had the pleasure of riding down a proper DH line."

I am more than sure that the other stuff you pulled from the article talks in generalisations about all mountain riding.

either that, or he's contradicting himself. In that case, a poor article then.
  • + 3
 I saw that article when it first came out - more of an advertorial than a review IMO. Until you see times, how do you know its actually faster than the other am bikes?Clearly the man can ride a bike, any bike really well which is actually the real determinant of performance, not the shock, brakes or wheel size. We should look him up now and see if he's bought one to replace his DH rig?
  • + 2
 @makripper: To quote you're previous post, "Until I see some actual footage of someone riding gnarly ass shit on this bike, I won't look at it twice ..."

That's exactly what you got and you're still arguing?

You clearly already know what your conclusion on 29ers is, but your trying to argue an invalid argument from a flawed, indefensible position.

As all you, 26" For Life", morons continue to try to make this argument, you just sound more and more like guys living in your parents basements as the world passes you by.
  • + 4
 Gotta love all the brochure reviews around here. The fact is 27.5 and 29 inches are growing because there is a market for it, and more and more people are buying them. I'm pretty sure they don't give much of a Danm what computer surfers think about their bikes. This is unfortunately the beginning of the end for 26 inch wheels...
  • + 1
 @headshot: The guy asked for photographic and video evidence of someone riding, "gnarly ass shit on this bike". That is exactly what he got and he's still arguing.

At some point you just have to realize, you can't argue with stupid.
  • - 6
 the fact that your arguing on the internet proves you've got some issues @donch15 lol! i've ridden 29'ers and have fun on them, so i'm not some "hater" The litttle edit has some jumps and shit but no gnarly rugged DH!
  • + 2
 Yeah...b/c going on the internet, unprovoked, to bash a companies new bike is totally sane.

Anyone who posts on this website clearly has issues...you just also happen to be a moron.
  • - 7
 Who's bashing? LOL who's the f*cking moron trying to rile people up when they are proven wrong? go back into your cave little troll bitch.
  • + 0
 'Atta boy...thank you for proving me right.
  • - 7
 pahaha what are you on? kids these days...
  • + 3
 It's macho time...
  • + 4
 This must be what hell is like. Yep, I'm sure it is. Wink
  • + 8
 I have spent a pretty good amount of time on the older WFO 9 riding and racing park and DH at Whistler and Winterpark. I actually took my TR 250 and TR 450 out for back-to-back rides over the last two years with the WFO 9 so I could get a feel for both types of bikes. I could give detailed thoughts and impressions and I could also tell you why at the end of the day I reach for the WFO 9 for almost all bike park duties, but you guys already have made up all the answers. And this new WFO appears to address the criticisms I had of the first design. I can also address the pooh-poohing of the Vital article by saying that the reviewer kept the bike because he loved it, and he does just fine getting it sideways over Crabapple Hits and roosting goobers on In Deep. Hate em if you want, but 29ers work just fine and are probably faster than your current setup in most terrain. Sorry.
  • - 1
 that's awesome man! Glad to hear you're loving the bike! With these "here are the specs" "here's what we think it can do" articles it's hard to get any sense of real life experience. Side by side comparisons are huge! thanks for the info on your experience! If one came my way, i'd be stoked to take it for a few laps!
  • + 1
 @nation @donch15 and @makripper I'll ignore all the arguing etc. but just wanted to point out to you that the video and review posted by Sicklines is of the old Niner WFO and it was posted well over a year ago, if not two years ago. The new WFO 9 has been vastly improved over the one seen in the Sicklines review and the video. Hopefully there will be some good video footage of the new one up soon.
  • + 0
 @IanHylands: Yep!!

The old one ripped...the new one will surely be a ripper too.
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  • + 25
 I wish they'd stop mentioning the "patented CVA" suspension when the design is stolen from the Balfa 2-step. Stealing a defunct canadian brands suspension design, and filling a US patent on it, since they're not around to contest it anymore, is hardly worth giving them credit for in reviews.
  • + 7
 How do you know all this shit? Hah
  • + 4
 filing, or filling?
  • + 1
 It looks just like a maestro with the lower link under the bb instead of over the top. Watch out for DW - oh, no, they have a patent so he can't sue them.
  • + 1
 Haha had to look that up! Very interesting.
  • + 3
 yeah... no it doesn't look like a maestro, though Balfa used to describe the function of the 2-step design as being similar to a vpp, maestro or dw link as far as it being a virtual pivot design. The Balfa design is 2003/2004, Niner bikes weren't founded until 2005 and they didn't debut the Rip-9, their first full suspension model until 2006. Balfa had ceased to be after the 2004 model year. The CVA patent wasn't "filed" for until 2008, and wasn't granted until 2011. They cited almost everyone major in their patent application EXCEPT the one brand of bikes who's actual design they were stealing...

www.balfa.wooyek.pl/balfa-2step-fr.html
  • + 5
 deeeight is one of the longer-in-the-tooth members of pb who knows nearly everything about almost anything HMBA106; he is your go-to source for any and all info you need in the world of North American MTB. Ask, and he shall (probably) be able to tell you. Sometimes he will even CAPS things if he thinks you don't understand, which is nice and helpful.

A friend of mine here had a 2-step until last year he loved it so much; great platform.
  • + 6
 If the company went under, then there's no argument.
  • + 3
 Cool MTB history lesson!
  • + 1
 Shredder get on your 9err and go shred. They should make teenage mutant ninja turtle edition. Put Shredder on the headtube, Rock Steady and Beebop on the hubs, the put the ninja turtles on the downtube. Sold!!!!
  • + 1
 "2Step is suspension design with temporary (moving with compression) pivot point. It is very similar to Maestro, or DW Link. Such design's advantages are good pedalling efficiency (little to none pedal bob) and close to none suspension feedback under braking (brake-jack). "

So, their design was nothing revolutionary and just a reworking of an existing design like the DW link. Patentable - well yes, because nobody challenged it at the time, but actually not unique or new, really.
  • - 4
 Deelight, who cares whether they're using a design similar to Balfa?! As you said, Balfa no longer exists and Niner happened to get a patent on their suspension design. No big deal really. It is a nice bike, looks like a Giant and likely works quite well (although not my cup of tea because the can't figure out how to do a proper size XL).
  • + 1
 Ya a bike usually works pretty good these days.
  • + 1
 Specialized didn't invent Horst/FSR but they patented it. What's your point?
  • + 0
 Actually Specialized didn't patent the horst or FSR designs, they BOUGHT the patents for them from Amp Research (horst leitner is the designer of the first several years worth of FSR models and Ground Control FS models). They have filed patents for other things they didn't actually invent, and committed patent fraud by knowingly leaving off prior art that they knew existed (such as they did for the inertia valve brain shocks and forks).
  • + 0
 See. Everything about almost anything.
  • + 2
 deeeight - Yes, they bought it and patented it. Same end result as finding a design that wasn't patented and patenting it.
  • + 1
 End result - yes bikes with good suspension designs. Actually, there is a huge difference between the two situations - HL probably made a packet of money and that's how inventors earn. Most of them don't actually manufacture their inventions, they sell them, so from that perspective, the two situations are poles apart.
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  • + 15
 Looks like an awesome bike, just needs a dropper. Also for the people about that are going to complain about 29ers vs 26 for technical trail, I'm going to reserve judgement until I test ride one, but this seems like a hell of a bike. Very interested to see what the reviews are like.
  • - 6
 Looks like a kona operator carbon
  • + 0
 i worked a demo with niner guys, and I was pleasantly surprised by the acceleration, handling and stableness of the platform. everybody says that 29ers are gay but now they are a real contenders in the AM market and at least worth trying
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  • + 14
 Nice to see the long travel (150mm+) 29'er market heating up. A face-to-face test against the Specialized Enduro 29'er would be interesting.
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  • + 9
 Looks like a fast machine, I met the Niner prototype guys at Winterpark and they were super friendly
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  • + 4
 Niner...you're missing the boat...people want short chainstays, especially on a bike that's meant to be fun. That's why the enderpo 29 is selling out. Nobody is buying 29ers with long chainstays except for dentists from MTBR.
  • + 1
 agreed. at 6 feet tall and 200 lbs, i love almost everything about this bike. just make the chain stays short and i could see myself saving up for this.
  • + 1
 You guys must hate the new DH bikes with their longer and longer wheelbases, huh?

Look at the linkage, rear triangle and wheel. Where are you gonna chop an inch off? if you can do all that AND keep the the handling the same (for a AM bike), you can have my inheritance.

Go!
  • + 3
 You can chop an inch off by designing the bike right. Specialized can do it. Devinci can do it. All you have to do is actually spend some time on packaging and make it happen. Maybe you can split the forward support on the rear triangle and put it on each side of the tire. Maybe you can make the links wider. Maybe you'll have to move each pivot point forward a half an inch, keeping suspension geometry virtually identical, but pushing it forward enough for added clearance. Plus, they added no provision for a front mech, making a shorter rear end even easier. I'll PM you for that inheritance.

Oh and DH bikes and wheelbase? Chainstay has an incredibly miniscule impact on wheelbase compared to virtually anything else. The only thing it really affects is the difference between the BB and the rear wheel, which affects the handling of the bike and its ability to change direction easily. Top tube length/reach, head tube angle, fork a2c, and fork offset, all have a larger effect on wheelbase, which is a better reflection of the "overall" handling of the bike, vs. low speed handling.

FWIW, I run my DH bike with a 63* head angle and the longest top tube I can find, but I still like my trail bikes to have ~17" chainstays.
  • + 1
 personally, i'm not interested in racing, so yes, i don't care for longer chainstays. hate is a strong word though. sandwich seems to have this covered, though.
  • + 1
 Specialized did make the chainstay shorter, but it also costs twice as much.

The cost factor is basically 4-5k for 1-2."
  • + 1
 yeah it does, that's why my life plan is winning the lottery
  • + 1
 The enderpo comp or whatever is $1500 less expensive than this bike. They sold out this year, otherwise I'd be after one! Niner's hardtails have all finally adopted short stays...surprised they didn't want to ride the excitement of the enderpo and get a nice short rear end in there. Even 17.0 would be be pretty tight.
  • + 1
 You are correct on the price.
I thought the Enduro 29 was a carbon only s-works because of the seat tube bend.

However the Specialized bike is a tank: 33lbs.

Versus this the niners 28.5lbs.
Which probabley is about 29-30lbs with pedals and a dropper.
  • + 1
 @sandwich, I don't think Niner can go any shorter due to the current suspension design. If you look at the new model's wheel clearance you can see where they got the .4 that they shaved off from the previous model. I don't think I'll ever buy another Niner again. They are just too slow in reacting to the market demands of the riders. Niner is missing the 27.5 boat, I hope for their sake Chris is right again. So far Graves and Jerome are proving the 27.5 hoopla is just what it is, hoopla. And to dove tail off someone above, with all these super slack HA of the current crop of 29ers and 27.5s. Most of the offering of this 27.5 industry lead movement, including this creation, are nothing but short travel gravity bikes that are just as much a pain to climb on as the previous 150mm 26er.
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  • + 4
 Lets call a spade a spade here.

I'm sure it's a superb bike for enduro racing and would be like a mini-dh rig. BUT I can't really see how any freeriders and anyone actually sending it would choose this bike?
  • - 2
 Seriously, this article makes this bike out to be something that its not. There are a ridiculous amount of better freeride / bike park options out there.
  • + 0
 Ya, just can't see this high fronted big wheeler as a park bike, but if anyone does do it, please post a vid.
  • + 2
 Whomever the neg props are from:
Care to elaborate? What about our opinion is disagreeable?
  • + 1
 Congratulations.
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  • + 7
 Niner are the new black...
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  • + 7
 Looks sweet!
  • + 2
 It really is sexy looking. Damn...
  • + 2
 Bring on a carbon version
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  • + 4
 Seeing this, and 29'er specialized enduro, really makes me want to try out a 29'er now! Glad to see some nicely crafted and packed long travel big wheel bikes.
  • + 2
 Enduro's got the shorter chainstays and wheelbase, still my favourite.
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  • + 2
 I'm not one to drool over 29ers,but this one has caught my attention. Though I would like to see someone huck this off a huge drop to confirm or deny its "freeride" capability. Maybe I can see one in action at the Overmountain Enduro in October. Keep it up Niner.
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  • + 1
 Where do they get the low standover measurements from? Not sure what size is pictured/tested but unless you move the saddle back a further 1 inch I doubt the lowest part of the top tube is valid for this measure in actual trail riding conditions. If we consider the actual standover point is roughly 2/3 down from the head tube and that the average 29" wheel is 74-75 cm in O.D., it is reasonable to estimate a standover height around 83-84 cm even on the S & M frames. I foresee that nut crushing moments await those who are not favoured with tall legs or superior balance. Anyway, I wonder why the European manufacturers were so slow in embracing 29ers but so fast in embracing 650B? Maybe 29er was a bit too far for the "european style" trails. While 29er stalwarts and 650B rebels fight over trail superiority, I will stick to my trusted 26er until the dust has settled.
  • + 1
 The only explanation is that Niner measures from the lowest part of the TT. RC
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  • + 4
 That is one high front end!
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  • + 4
 i like it alot the color combo is sweet i,d ride the crap out of it
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  • + 3
 Those XO1 cranks are really noticeable, and not in a good way.
  • + 1
 Referring solely to looks, I think X01 is down right ugly. Probably performs great, but sure is ugly. The black cassette especially does it in.
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  • + 3
 Finally, an enduro bike for people who love the handling of a 29er!
  • + 2
 what about the enduro?
  • - 4
 No enduro rider likes the handling of a 29er. This is the biggest attempt to make 29ers cool I have ever seen. Sadly, it still didn't work..
  • + 0
 i was referencing the specialized enduro. tell that to curtis keene. i agree that 29ers won't get big in enduro, there are pro enduro racers using them. also, the kona honzo made 29ers cool a few years ago.
  • + 1
 Cedric Gracia and Curtis Keene must not have got the memo.
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  • - 1
 When was the last time PB put a 26'' bike review on the homepage? I liked the fact that more BMXers were coming on PB and making profiles/ uploading content.... but now even I'm feeling alienated and I'm an MTBer. PB- have a word with yourself.
  • + 12
 29 20 27.5 24 or 26, it's still riding. I don't care.
  • - 2
 Exactly- so why have at least 90% of bike reviews for 29'' or 27.5''? I would enjoy reading a BMX review more than yet another big wheeler.
  • + 3
 Because they're new! That's (unfortunately) how it works.
  • + 2
 last week they reviewed a couple of sweet 26" commencals. just sayin.
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  • + 1
 So many big wheeled bike comeing I'm starting to think its the norm now and maybe something is wrong with my out off date Victorian 26
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 So far I've only seen Niner bikes in pictures, not one on the trails in Santa Cruz or the Bay Area.
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 Sooo....now that we don't like 27.5......are 29ers ok?
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  • + 2
 big wheels and big travel... im listening
  • + 1
 Me too, how about some coil shocks to cement the intention?
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  • + 0
 Hi RC, could you clarify
"With a 160 millimeter stroke RockShox Pike RCT3 fork, the WFO's basic geometry lends itself well for gravity-oriented riders"
160mm?
  • + 0
 160mm on a 29, is like a 180mm 26. Is this hard to understand?
  • + 1
 You're kidding right? Now the manufacturer or the reviewer gets to plug in virtual specs? Kinda like claiming this bike is a virtual freeride/ park bike which it's not.
What I was actually looking for clarification on Dave was that I didn't think there was a 160mm 29" pike but instead of jumping to conclusions about the man's lack of understanding on the topic, I politely asked him to clarify.
Understand Dave?
  • + 1
 Figured since some enduro 29er's come fitted with a 160mm pike, this one will too right?
  • + 1
 There is a 29" 160mm Pike, you just haven't seen many of them yet.
  • + 2
 Îts just not speced on the RS site and any review of the fork claims only up to 150mm travel options, but I'll take your words for it dudes.
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  • + 1
 they keep using the word gravity, and i get all excited for a full on 29'er downhill bike.
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 It doesn't come stock with a dropper because 1) it drives up the price, 2) dropper choice is personal, and 3)Niner is mated to Rockshox, and the Reverb is subpar to the KS Lev and they know it. I'd be pissed if my bike came with a reverb, i.e. SC Bronson. WTH? Can I get that $10,123 bike without a crappy dropper and a nice ENVE carbon bar? Just sayin'
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  • + 1
 Does anyone know when Niner Bikes will start putting out 650B/27.5 bikes? I can't wait! Smile
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  • + 1
 That's one sic looking bike!
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  • + 2
 Pedal DAMN IT!
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 Thats y i love mountain bikes bros __________0^0__________
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  • + 1
 A sign of the 29" apocalypse! Look away! Look awaaaay!
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 How did you get it to stand up straight like that?
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 Terrible solution with the wires!! Nice bike anyhow!!
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 Why is everybody going for 29ers?
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  • + 1
 Yeah... I would buy that. For sure.
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  • + 1
 Wow...That'd go like shit off a shovel...
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 ha check out the star nut
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 In reference to the geometry chart, who makes a 170mm 29er fork?
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  • + 1
 And Isaac is already in line....
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  • + 1
 This is a sexy bike...
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  • + 0
 seems versatile, but kinda frankenstein-bike to me.
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  • - 1
 niner i know what would boost your sales change your name to sixer.... oh and the wheel size ! Smile
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 at least its not a 27.5...
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  • + 0
 $5000 and no dropper.
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 Is overpriced
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  • - 2
 In before comments about how much people hate Chris Sugai and would never buy one of his bikes because of his attitude...
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 You got in before mine! ...... He's an ass
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 Where did you find data on that?
  • + 1
 Waki there is an interview with him on PB somewhere.
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 Personally, I don't have an issue. I'm sure he's an alright guy, but every time Niner is brought up on PB, people talk about what an ass they think he is. I'm sure he's laughing all the way to the bank
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 All because he believes in 29er's. What an ass, he likes big wheels!
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 Ahaaa! Another case of using false or insufficient data to form opinions and express them on the internet with use of vulgarisms. That is unreasonable! Next time consider it to be logical to do your research before posting! Heil Scienz! Heil!
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 his attitude in the two video interviews I watched was lame................I form my opinions based on peoples attitudes.................he's an ass! In my opinion, the internet is about opinion, deal with it!
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 Question: do you meet him everyday? could you feel his attitude in how the bike handles? If in both NO, then why the hell do you care and propell things hurting a bloke and giving absolutely nothing to a person reading it? Joe Graney and that other young prick from SC are a-holes from what I see in the vids. But I don't give a damn, some of their bikes are really good - I buy them, and recommend others to buy them. Sometimes you have to be an ass, in order to propell your idea, to make it happen, to blow through a bloody beige wall, especially if it is a radical idea. You either fight for your beliefs or you don't have them. And some people don't have that momentum, they are nice and steady and can change opinion in order to be liked. And don't get anywhere and talk shit on others, not being nice anymore behind their back
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 Dude...........I don't buy from people who I think have attitudes. End of Story..............my beliefs are that there are many many great options in the market and I weed my options by the company and it's owner ....... If me saying I think the guy comes across as an ass in his interview hurts him, then he needs to change his attitude or other people need to have the "I don't care what the guy is like, I just want his bikes" attitude. We're all different man, don't get so hurt over someones opinion.......
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 Frankenstein is totally awesome. He's only being controlled by dracula for evil doings
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 Front end is higher than on my grandma's bike. How the heck does one ride such an abomination.
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