An Exclusive and In-Depth Look at Kona's 2014 Carbon Operator

Apr 16, 2013
by Mike Levy  
 
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CARBON
OPERATOR
WORDS Mike Levy
PHOTOS Colin Meagher and Joe Sales




GRAHAM AGASSIZ ON THE CARBON OPERATOR


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Filmed and edited by Sherpas Cinema



KONA'S CARBON OPERATOR EXPLAINED


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Filmed and edited by MIndspark Cinema with action shots by Sherpas Cinema


A Carbon Future

While some might still argue that the world of downhill isn't the place for carbon fiber, the success of the current carbon frames on the race track speaks volumes about just how strong a properly constructed ''plastic'' frame actually is. In fact, having been behind the scenes of multiple frame manufacturing and testing facilities has given us firsthand knowledge of the material's advantages. Consider that these carbon creations can also be made lighter, often significantly so, and any brand wanting to compete in the long-travel carbon bike realm will have to lay out the development costs for one of their own. Kona's Gravity Product Manager, Chris Mandell, realized that more than a year ago when the Carbon Operator project first kicked off. ''We can make a stronger, lighter bike.''

We asked why carbon and why now? ''It involves a lot more cost on our end in terms of the engineering time and preparation, but it pays off for the consumer at the end of the day with a bike that is going to enable them, because it's lighter, because it's stronger, because it's stiffer. It's that simple.'' What isn't simple, though, is actually designing, testing, and manufacturing a carbon frame intended to be used for anything between a World Cup downhill use by team rider Connor Fearon and a burly Red Bull Rampage run by Kona's Graham Agassiz.

Carbon Operator Details

• New model for 2013
• Unidirectional carbon front triangle
• Hybrid aluminum/carbon rocker arm
• Revised four-bar suspension layout
• Tapered head tube w/o aluminum sleeve
• ISCG-05 chain guide tabs
• Large cartridge bearings at all pivots
• Aluminum chain and seat stays
• 12 x 157mm rear axle spacing
• Rear wheel travel: 200mm
• Frame weight: 7.29lb (7.93lb for the 2013 Operator frame)
• MSRP: under $4,100 USD, under $7,000 USD, frame only TBA

Kona Operator Carbon. Photo by Colin Meagher.
  Kona may have explored other suspension layouts for their 200mm travel Carbon Operator but they settled on a design they know very well: the walking beam, four-bar system.

Evolution, Not Revolution

There are some suspension designs that have become synonymous with certain brands over the years - picture UK's Orange with their large swingarm, single pivot bikes, or how one automatically pictures a Horst Link bike when thinking of Specialized. The very same can be said of Kona, with them being well known for their walking beam, four-bar layout that has been employed in many different incarnations on everything from short-travel cross-country bikes to downhill race machines. Kona has remained true to this layout despite the suspension trends that have come and gone over the years, with them resisting the rise of the dual short-link layout that has gained massive popularity in recent times. Are there non-performance related reasons for them sticking to their guns? Maybe so, but it has to be said that Kona has done well to develop their four-bar system into a proven, formidable package. Don't forget that legendary Frenchman Fabien Barel took his highly modified Kona Stab to two World Championships wins and a World Cup overall title, not to mention the success of countless other brands who employ a similar four-bar design.


Those facts can be easily forgotten as other brands have debuted newer, flashier designs over the years, and it is probably fair to say that the Kona name doesn't get brought up when talking about exciting suspension happenings. But by sticking to their guns and refining a layout that they have been working with for years, Kona has proven that a company doesn't require a banal acronym or new design every few seasons to succeed.
bigquotesEven though we started with that blank sheet of paper and looked at a lot of stuff, we found that this suspension design, which ends up being an evolution of our current Operator, was the best design out there for what we were trying to do. So that's what we went with.
We would be surprised if Kona hadn't explored other options, though, especially for their new Carbon Operator platform, and industrial designer Jack Russell (pictured at right) admits as much. ''When we started this new project, the new Operator, we really started from a blank sheet of paper,''
Russell revealed to us. ''It's a little bit of an inside joke that we ended up with a walking beam suspension like we've always had. We really started this project looking at all suspension options; we spent a long time looking at a lot of kinematics.'' That wasn't what we were expecting to hear from a brand that has utilized the same suspension ideology for so long, with the frank and marketing-free admission that they assessed other routes that may have held promise before deciding to persevere with what they know so well.
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  An overlay of the Carbon Operator atop last year's version (left) shows the different pivot locations and frame shape.

That isn't to say that the 200mm travel Carbon Operator hasn't seen changes to how its suspension functions compared to the current Operator, with a side by side comparison of the two bikes making it pretty clear that Russell has penned some major changes to both the bike's pivot placements and rocker arm shape. The result, he says, is that the ''leverage rate curve on the bike ended up being an evolution of our current bikes,'' he explained to us. ''We really tried to keep it relatively flat so it doesn't go through different tunes of a shock.'' That point, Russell told us, is key to creating a well rounded suspension system that reacts predictably regardless of where it is in its travel.


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  The bike's rocker arm consists of two aluminum sides that are joined together by a bonded in place carbon fiber bridge.

Fighting Flex

Rigidity is a recurring theme when talking about the new Carbon Operator, with Kona looking to make the bike, and especially rear end of the bike, as laterally unyielding as possible. Just how stiff is it? Kona claims that their testing has shown the new Operator's rear end to require three times the force to flex it the same amount as last year's model. We'll gladly point out that lab testing and real world use are two very different things but, if true, it is an impressive feat that should be noticeable on the trail. Kona was able to make such massive gains with a few different developments - the bike's hybrid aluminum/carbon rocker arm being a big factor in the equation. The stout looking rocker arm consists of two aluminum plates that are joined via a carbon fiber bridge bonding the two sides together. Why not just go with a standard full aluminum job or a fancy all carbon unit? ''Cost, complexity, and the durability of it just wasn't that good,'' Russell says of the originally proposed carbon rocker. ''And instead of just doing it anyway because it would cool, we really wanted to do what was best for the bike.'' In the end Kona says that they found that the hybrid rocker arm proved to be the best of both worlds when all the factors were figured in.

Other elements contributing to the Operator's rigidity include the bike's massive pivot bearings, and especially the wide main pivot the is afforded by Kona going with a PressFit 104 bottom bracket shell, allowing them to space out the left and right bearings as far as possible. A small detail, but one that Russell told us has made a quantifiable improvement in stiffness, is the simple addition of a pinch bolt on both sides of the bike's rear axle clamp. This small-scale alteration offered big-time gains by preventing the axle from twisting at either side.


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Frame Details

The brand new frame allowed Kona to incorporate a host of details that are becoming de rigueur on not just carbon frames but aluminum as well. This includes optional internal cable and hose routing that enter at the frame's integrated fork bumpers and exits via ports down near the lower shock mount, with the brake line continuing externally and the shift housing being routed through the chainstay. The fork bumpers themselves are held each held in place with two M5 bolts, the very same size and length that Kona uses to attach both the derailleur hanger and the included, dual density down tube protector.

Those who cringe at the mention of changing standards might want to stop reading now. Two slightly less obvious features are the bike's PressFit 104 bottom bracket shell that, while using the same bearings employed in the more common BB92 setup, spaces them out at a wider stance to accomodate DH cranksets with 83mm spindles. Moving towards the back of the bike, Kona has gone ahead with 12 x 157mm rear axle spacing that
makes it much easier to locate the wheel in the dropouts and slide the axle through. Many hub manufacturers are offering axle endcap conversion kits, allowing their current 150mm models to switch over to the newer 157mm width, something that also influenced Kona's decision.
bigquotesAs expected, we have quietly been testing 27.5'' wheels for a while now on everything from hardtails to all-mountain bikes. Again, the focus of this bike was to find the perfect balance. We understand that maximizing one benefit may detract from others. We also have a specific way we wanted the bike to ride and feel. Fitting a larger wheel on the back of a bike with 200mm travel comes down to finding the best balance of chain stay length, seat tube geometry, and main pivot position. When designing this bike it became clear that the larger wheel size would take the ride in the wrong direction. We believe there is a place for 27.5'' wheels in DH, sure, but that place is not on the 2014 Kona Operator. - Jack Russell, Industrial Designer

Kona Operator Carbon. Photo by Colin Meagher.
  Aluminum test mules were used to finalize details before going ahead with actual carbon frame production.


Looking for a Balance

Balance is a word that kept popping up as we talked to Mandell (pictured at left) about what they were looking for with the new Operator. He stresses that a bike really is the sum of its elements - an ultra-slack head angle or fashionably low bottom bracket doesn't mean that a design is going to stand out as a winner, he told us. Throughout the evolution of the 2014 Operator, including the numerous aluminum mules that were assembled in the name of testing, Kona strove to create a bike that could be enjoyed by all types of riders, not just the most skilled out there. Some recent designs on the market employ geometry numbers bordering on unrideable for many everyday riders. ''We're trying to find a balance of all of the different factors that come together to make a bike that rides well,'' Mandell said of those unnamed bikes mentioned above. ''That balancing act, at the end of the day, creates a product that allows a rider to jump on the bike and feel comfortable instantly.'' That ethos led them to utilize a 64° head angle, a widely accepted figure, as it's a number that seems to work well in most settings. Out back, the rear end was shortened by 6mm compared to last year's Operator, making for a very compact 420mm chain stay length.





















But what about weight, the talking point that so many riders seem to put such an emphasis on? While Mandell admitted that frame weight was certainly a factor in the design process, other characteristics came first on his wish list. ''I think we were primarily concerned with making a stiff, durable package. We could have used smaller bearings on this frame and that would have saved a lot of weight, but we stuck with quite oversize bearings for this frame. That makes them more resistant to side loads, and it makes them more resistant to pressure washers.'' he told us. ''Yes, there was a hierarchy of goals, and weight was in there - we're pretty proud of the weight at the end of the day - but durability, getting the right geometry, getting what we think is the perfect leverage rate curve... those were higher up in the hierarchy.'' So is the new bike a tank? Not so much, with the Carbon Operator pictured here coming in at a claimed 34.5lb with its steel-sprung FOX shock. The new frame is said to weigh in at 7.29lb, which is .64lb lighter than the current aluminum version.

Kona Operator Carbon.
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  While the bike's dropouts (left) look hefty, they are actually hollow. The aluminum prototypes had their main pivot bearings located in the chain stays (right), but the production carbon frame sees them placed in bores on the front triangle.

Carbon for the Masses?

So is the Carbon Operator going to be an ultra-expensive dream rig that most of our dirtbag brethren will only ever to dream about? It goes without saying that the bike certainly won't be inexpensive, that much should be obvious, but Kona is also planning to offer a complete bike at what can only be described as an astoundingly low price for a carbon fiber downhill rig, less than $4,100 USD. For the record, Santa Cruz's V10 Carbon carries an MSRP of $3,499 USD for the frame alone with a FOX DHX shock. Yes, the V10 does sport a carbon swingarm and a very proven track record, but the fact that Kona can offer a complete Operator Carbon for just about $600 USD more than a V10 Carbon frame is impressive. ''For us at Kona, one of the things that we've really found a lot of success with is enabling the privateer,'' Mandell says of the bike's competitive pricing. ''The 2011 Operator, the base level bike, has been enjoyed around the world by a large number of privateers, and our goal with this bike is to continue that tradition. We want someone to be able to buy the base level version of this bike and race it for a full season without needing to replace all of the parts on the bike. That means appropriately wide handlebars, wheels that are going to hold up to a year's worth of downhill abuse, and a drivetrain that is going to do the same.'' At the other end of the spectrum there will be a sub $7,000 USD version that will come stock with a high-end kit and leave next to no room for upgrades.
bigquotesWe see less value in a bike that no one can afford, that you can only look at on the internet. For us, a lot of the bikes that we're most proud of are the bikes that don't have the crazy, sexy spec, but enable a lot more riders to ride. - Chris Mandell, Gravity Product Manager
Kona Operator Carbon. Photo by Colin Meagher.
Kona Operator Carbon. Photo by Colin Meagher.
Kona Operator Carbon. Photo by Colin Meagher.
Kona Operator Carbon. Photo by Colin Meagher.
  Kona's Ferndale, Washington, headquarters is not your typical office building. There is a lot of history on these walls, and we counted at least four dogs who seemed to have the run of the place.

Photo by Joe Sales
  Kona's Graham Agassiz, Carbon Operator, 360. Filming with the Sherpas on Vancouver Island.

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337 Comments

  • + 385
 Hello, operator?, please connect me to line "awesome"
  • + 27
 kona's new slogan for the operator right there, i'll tell you what!
  • - 28
 They already got a similar slogan for the first Operator a couple years ago
  • + 27
 That video of Joe Smith riding in the Whistler Bike Park is one of my faves.
  • - 110
 Looks like a commencial with a few changes to where the shock sits..
  • - 112
 Looks like a Trek session
  • + 8
 Anyone know what tires hes running ? they have a maxxis logo on them but I don't recognise the tread pattern ? prototype maybe ?
  • + 24
 It clearly looks like an old norco VPS, I mean, c'mon Look at those lines, the similarities are astounding. One of the hardest things i have to do after i wake up is look at pink bike and see every bike with a vertical shock and see the comments saying it looks like a trek session.
  • - 61
 paint it blue, tilt the shock and bingo.. its a commencial.. haha.. Surely they could come up with something more original. least they've moved on from their "grasshopper" look..
  • + 7
 "The bike's rocker arm consists of two aluminum sides that are joined together by a bonded in place carbon fiber bridge." I'm not sure if I like the this sentence... hope it holds. Sweet looking though, IMO.
  • + 8
 Matty-b, good effort, but a few months late on this one....
  • + 10
 @Mtnbyker...that Joe Smith vid for the release of the Operator is the best promo vid ever made.
  • + 8
 Just gonna say this now.
*Actual Grandpa Quote "if you can't say anything nice then don't say anything at all"
Sooo basically NO KONA HATING ALLOWED!
  • + 4
 Nothing wrong with a little grandpa wisdom...gramps was a wise old man. Smile
  • + 5
 Surprised they didn't have Aggy rolling to the sound of this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA9gUspn6gc
  • + 3
 They are on the money with this, it doesnt look much but its a beast. Very nice looking and extremely well thought out. Ive always thought the Kona downhill bikes look superb any way but this thing is off the chain. That frame wouldnt look out of place with a 150mm fork on it, its so unassuming. If I just saw the frame I wouldnt think it was a downhill fram at all.
  • + 5
 That was one hell of a promo vid, Great job Kona!
  • - 22
 and it goes snap....
  • + 3
 Damn, Agassiz knows how to ride a beecycle. One of my favorite riders on one of my favorite brands growing up.
  • + 1
 The carbon bridge is just structural, even if it snapped the bike would ride the same, but with a bit more flex. Its not like if they werent joined that they would pivot at different times.
  • - 12
 leave it to kona to make a carbon bike and then throw on a rear triangle made out of 6061 aluminium
  • + 4
 Liking the ammo belt paint job, looks sweet.
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 INTRODUCING: The Kona (half) carbon Operator!

"Looks like a session" but wont ride anything like it. Sorry. Bring on the hate, haters, but it still wont change the fact that bike still wont ride as well as a session 9.9.

For those that have never even set hands on a Session 9.9, your argument's wont be valid so don't even try. For those that have actually ridden a Session 9.9, I will hear you out.

P.S. The Easton Havoc wheels are the worst DH wheels ever made. Don't ever get them.
  • + 1
 ....it looks nothing like a commencal. the shock doesn't pass through the seat tube, the shock isn't inverted either, although if the shock wasn't inverted on the operator it could actually be mistaken for a session/aurum which is pretty sick, new slogan: "can't afford a session 9.9? an operator and a new paintjob and you're set!"
  • + 2
 That rocker link looks suspect. Think three years from now after countless pounding and then creaking leads to crackling. Just kidding I know you flamingoes arent keeping any bike for three years.
  • + 4
 Your Session 9.9 but be so good! Thats why you're selling it..
  • + 3
 little black submarines would be a good tune for the video. mainly because the lyrics go 'put me back on the line, operator please'.
  • + 0
 The original prototype color scheme looked like a final production version. Very well balanced black with green accents and a couple brown parts, very elite feel to it. It looked like the new elite age of kona design with well thought out graphics. This other version, the bullets over broadway edition nonsense is some batman and robin queerbo unitard wearing snotnose kid paintjob. Cant wait to see the first spoiled little manbaby with this bullets edition kona. Tons o guns everyone gettin strapped, tons o guns better watch the way ya act, tons of konas but I wont glorify....
  • + 2
 My guess is that the "Rambo" version is somebody's personal test mule...I highly doubt Kona will be selling a version with bullets all over it.
  • - 1
 Ya Rambo doesnt play that bullets motif b.s. This more like a FLAMingo paint job. The original proto graphics looked like whole new approach and good direction for kona. Alot of time companies have the right idea on paper then drink too many shots and end up producing the bullets version or naming their bikes handjob or blumpkin. This what happens when a trust fund baby runs a bike company lol. Soo close to being great then complete fail. A black paint job over carbon is like taking crome rims off a ferrari and spraying them yellow.
  • + 5
 Or just like chrome rims on a Ferrari.
  • + 1
 or like buying a rolls royce in fluorescent yellow
  • + 1
 Are they bullets or like a big coil spring like design???
  • + 1
 It's an ammo belt.
  • + 1
 Ahh, yeah, that's a bit like a barbed-wire tattoo... it worked for a min. in the 2000's then you just look like Fred Durst...
  • - 1
 Haaaaha yea son call that the Fred Durst edition kona with ammo belt motif. I did it all for the nookie so you take that kona and stickit inya AAHhhyy. Have to see the jagoff who riding that rambo flamingo fred durst kona bullets over broadway edition turd bike. Whats under the paint is great kona so keep up the good work. That orange operator and green one look very respectable. This bullet one looks like its marketed towards a 13 year old snot nose and should come with call of doody 15.
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 "We see less value in a bike that no one can afford, that you can only look at on the internet. For us, a lot of the bikes that we're most proud of are the bikes that don't have the crazy, sexy spec, but enable a lot more riders to ride." - Chris Mandell, Gravity Product Manager

Amen to that brother. Keep them coming.
Love the new lines on this bike too.
  • + 20
 These guys get it.
  • + 25
 So much of that article was a huge WIN for the mountain biking community. It seems like Kona has gone back to their roots. Keep up the good work Kona!
  • - 10
 to sum it up, WTF
  • + 3
 I agree. If you want respect for the decisions made in the design of a bike, tell us why you made them. This is far more impressive than the press release of the Bronson which seemed targeted to a 3rd grade level of comprehension. Hats off to Kona!
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  • + 73
 The awesome new operator aside, that was THE best product vid I have seen. Why? Because they put the industrial designer in front of the camera and let him tell us about what the bike has on it and WHY. Awesome
  • + 16
 Absolutely! I wanna see the blueprints and graphs, hear the logic, and see the development stages. Note to bike companies: bring out your geeks, don't keep them chained to the CAD station all day, some of us want the tech details.

Great product video!
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  • + 61
 Gonna fill the tubes with cement so I can have that old-skool Kona feel to it!
  • + 17
 You should fill your head with rocks so you can never learn, too.
  • + 32
 Do not threaten me with a good time!
  • + 2
 old konas were made in the abyss of Mordor!!!
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  • + 53
 Screw the "it's still a kona" haters. Kona actually did a good job here, and if the 2011 and 2012 Operator is any sign of what this will be like, I may consider saving up for it.
  • + 17
 Soooo goood! New Operator looks fantastic! Especially in green-black painting!
  • + 12
 I used to not be too fond of konas, I'll admit it, but as much as I wanna hate on this I just, I just can't bring myself to do it.
  • + 12
 Kona you have done well
  • - 42
 Guess what they will do with the good looking paint job they have right now? PUT IT IN THE GARBAGE and slap on ugly bright color on the whole bike that makes it yell LOOK AT ME IM RIDING A KONA AND I WANT EVERYONE TO NOTICE ME!
  • + 14
 Dont forget about how good of a job Kona did on the new Entourage too!!!!
  • + 11
 ^
Anytime some says "Kona's are sh*t" I bust out my phone and play Treefur with Graham Agassiz - Silvia, that shuts them up.
  • + 32
 It's a Kona should be a compliment now.
  • + 8
 Looks amazing and definitely a good step forward. But, lets not get ahead of ourselves, we gotta actually ride the bike first Smile
  • - 9
 What the *? I never said kona was shit. I simply said Kona prototype always have a better paintjob then the production model which always have bright colors and/or white everything. Remember the entourage in the prototype form? Yeah that raw color, well that was way better then what they came up with!
  • - 23
 I just keep on wonderig why on earth every bike company has come up with trek session 88? It's either trek or transition, no imagination at all.
  • + 12
 ionn , ever thought that only a few designs actually work , and that there is no point in making a frame with 16 pivots just to be unique when a single pivot and linkage works just fine ?

Also this is quite different to a trek beyond cosmetics ( and BTW kona and other companys were making this same basic shape in the 90s' )
  • + 28
 I just wonder why on the earth every car does come with four wheels...no imagination
  • + 1
 The bike looks nice but I'd still replace the stickers with the old logo.
  • + 3
 @ionn - It is a bit different to the Trek, in that the shock isn't fully floating. There are I'm sure plenty of other key dimensions that will be different, notable the quite short 420 mm chainstays. 90% (at a guess) of other DH bikes are 17.5" or 444.5 mm. That's a huge difference right there.
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  • + 38
 I sense a new trend " looks like an operator"
  • + 1
 good luck with that one
  • + 2
 It would be more accurate, too, given how many brands use some form of linkage-driven single-pivot.
  • - 5
 i don't usually compare bike. but operator / commencal supreme Dh have something in common :p
  • + 1
 seriously, they use the same 4 bar. the seat tube is different and the shock attached to the swing arm are the two main difference. every line on those bikes are mostly the same. Open a V3 and this kona and they really are looking like each other. Saying they ain't looking like each other is lying to yourself. I ain't said they suck, i would ride both.
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  • + 26
 This will be my first carbon DH bike
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  • + 19
 I love the looks. I love the design. Those little details are awesome- they genuinely thought about simple solutions to serious troubles there. Not for my style of riding at all but boy is it beautiful... My first bike was Kona. And yes, it did brake. My second bike is still going strong despite numerous battle scars. And it is Kona too. Great job guys- keep it up!
  • + 10
 I bike that didn't brake would be a problem. A big problem.
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  • + 14
 I am impressed, this bike looks really nice, of course I´ve never tried, but I believe this is big step forward for Kona which really can help them to get back in the saddle.

good job Kona
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  • + 14
 The price is going to drive more competition for reduced carbon frame costs. Kudos.
  • + 2
 Amen.... It's about time companies put out carbon bikes with entry-level kit.... When you buy a complete, you are really buying a frame with some expendables hanging off it..... yes, even top end componentry breaks.
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  • + 13
 Plastic is not a carbon composite. Calling carbon frames plastic shows a poor understanding of the materials and should be corrected.
  • - 25
 its still plastic. In aluminium we trust.
  • + 14
 Carbon frames are made out of plastic in the same way that aluminium frames are made out of rocks dug from the ground.
  • + 1
 Plastic:- malleable - pliable - fictile
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 "What isn't simple, though, is actually designing, testing, and manufacturing a carbon frame intended to be used for anything between a World Cup downhill use by team rider Connor Fearon and a burly Red Bull Rampage run by Kona's Graham Agassiz."

What about burly Red Bull Rampage run by Kona's Antoine Bizet. at least he has been on the podium.
  • + 4
 And podium at Chatel before too. Why no vids of Bizet?
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  • + 6
 that bike looks like fun. be nice if carbon tech trickles down to more affordable bikes. I'm not a fan of the paint detail tho, it's bullets right? nothing against guns and bullets but it just doesn't look right in this application. if you're going to try and get artsy fartsy with the trim at least do a better job of it.
  • + 1
 they forgot the punisher symbol to complete the 'bad ass' look
  • + 4
 yeah for the us Euros that dont get american gun culture, the bullets look crass
  • - 1
 @kimbers- sarcasm my friend
  • - 14
 Too soon after Sandy Hook for that paint job.
  • + 15
 You're bringing Sandy Hook into a review of a mountain bike? I think it's too soon after Sandy Hook for your comment.
  • - 10
 My comment was made with the utmost sympathies for those who have been impacted by gun violence. Right now this nation is still mourning the loss of those small children, not to mention all the other deaths that occur daily from gun violence. I'd rather my bike be an escape from that, not a reminder.
  • + 5
 Then you should remove all the ball bearings from your bike, actualy...... Focus on inanimate objects is distracting from the actual issues at hand. Just say'n
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  • + 4
 I love irrational emotion directed towards inanimate objects.
  • + 3
 Personally, I'm starting a petition to ban hammers. Hammers have killed more people in the United States this year than "assault" rifles have. I would like every hardware store in the country closed as they are clearly merchants of death. Please sign my petition if you care about children.
  • + 1
 Beerbottles - its "Glassfibre". Proper deco on an aluminium frame is a sixpack.
  • + 1
 It's not production color! The black and green is!!
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  • + 5
 Well it doesn't look like the carbon slowed him down any. He destroyed trails on all his pre-carbon bikes. I don't think the Carbon VS Aluminum frame is the game changer. The ability of the rider is more of a factor that the material of the frame. Does look nice though. (Shout out to Willy Warren)
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  • + 4
 "we thought it wasn't worth going carbon on the rear end" *waits a year* the new 2015 kona operator... now comes with carbon rear end because we decided it was worth it after all. A.K.A. they haven't finished it yet. i am warming to it tho
  • + 1
 I was thinking the same thing. Just reminded me of the v10 and how annoyed some people were when they announced the full carbon version after they had just bought the carbon/alu triangle version.
Whatever though. To me it's a negligible difference and I wouldn't care. It's a logical choice for now and a full carbon version, if they choose to produce one, probably wouldn't be out until '15-'16.
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  • + 4
 Sexy. So it has 200mm travel on the rear? I like big travel, so yeah. Put some Fox 40RC2 on the front and switch up a couple small components and it'd be perfect. I am thinking of getting the V-10 carbon, so Kona thank you for the other bike to look into. I like kona so be nice to stick with them after all these years.
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  • + 3
 they should have called this bike, " f*ck you specialized." cause this things blows the demo8 out of the water!!!!! im thinkin this thing is gonna be some solid cash. high 9k or high 10k is my guess. somewhere in there. but definitely worth it!
  • + 2
 They have already stated the price! $6999 on the top model...
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 Proto Maxxis tires?
  • + 2
 yea, first thing in noticed. look like a muddy mary type pattern
  • + 1
 My thoughts exactly, pause @ 3:56 for a good look.
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  • + 3
 Agassiz' riding is so fun to watch. Fast, loose and style till infinity. The goal of any advertising is to connect a feeling to product rather than sell it's utility. I think Kona achieved it with that video. The added bonus is that the bike looks fairly awesome also.
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 Damn west coast fog is so sick! I just wish i lived there im over this knock off calgary fog and snow (if we even ever get fog).
BTW konas really stepping up there game here! and sick riding like usual from Aggy
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 What a great company. They really design bikes for the everyday rider/consumer instead of just the deep pockets. Practicality goes a long way. Bravo, Kona. You have yourself a winner.
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 Aggy is their (Kona) best sales pitch. Watching him ride makes anyone wanna go buy a Kona and drag your ass down the mountain, all loose as f*ck! Bike looks sweet and looks like it handles good too.
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 hahaha. Seriously. All I could think was "Man, I wanna do that. I'd better buy one."
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 That is one cool bike. Make me wan't one for myself. There are many good details in this bike I love. One of the biggest thing is, how easy it is to maintain it. All the bearings are standard, you don't need any fancy tools etc. What more could you ask for. As long as you are not a pro, or wan't to spent hours and hours to find and fix the right parts, this is the one and only way to build a bike for a "hobbyist". I really love the way Kona did this bike. If I need one, this would be it. Till then, I am still rocking my Empire......
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 Just so everybody knows, the bike in the pictures is/was a prototype test mule, not the final graphics and not the final build.....
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 I sure hope their attitude towards compliance doesn't bite them in the ass. Especially considering the big 4 motorcycle makers already found out the hard way that you can make things too stiff.
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 That's what she said......


No? Anyone . . . .

Forget it
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 I agree, and yet: USD forks dominate moto, but are rare in MTB, so it may be more about different levels of stiffness being appropriate for different sports. But i still run a USD fork, so... meh.
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 I was thinking the same thing when they mentioned that. I'm sure they know what they're doing though. I would imagine stiffness in the frame would translate into better tracking and handling with deflection coming from other areas. It's a little different than having a front end that's too stiff and having that transferred into your upper body. What do I know though. I've never even owned a full suspension bike!
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 Not hating or anything. But, why the van rc shock on a carbon frame? Seems like a paradox all that carbon tech with an rc shock instead of a higher end shock. Not that the rc is a bad shock.
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 I would guess they were probably testing a lot of shocks, and that one happened to be on there when the photos were taken. or maybe all that shock tech is just marketing Wink
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 Production models will likely have a custom-tuned RC on it.... an inexpensive shock custom-tuned for a frame that does the job well is a smarter spec choice than something that "blings". The matched VanR on my entourage is perfect and I'm hoping to buy a used one (as a spare) from someone that "upgraded".
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 wait, isnt this still april?
WTF is this, the year just started and allready new product is out. im just getting used to the 2013 stuff
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 I was just about to buy a new bike for this season but now Iam going to wait because I want this one!! I think it would nasty with a fox 40
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 fuckin Aggy! shit! haha. every time this dude is in a video its the best fucking video alive. riding style is unreal. stay healthy for Rampage this year... we're expecting greatness!
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 you guys gotta remember that this is still a prototype and isn't in production yet, im guessing that's why it has 2012 boxxers on it im sure when it comes out it will be even better
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 any one who says it looks like a trek session needs a kick in the Unt© if anything a session looked like a kona when it came out!
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 Were did the air shock go?
Might have been the victim of the G out on Sickter Gnar..... Hope to see it at Black Rock again...
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 I'm sure it was a G out victim
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 Really nice looking bike and if it rides anything like the current operator it will ride well aswell. However, I do think kona should have added the option of being able to fit a 650b wheel in it, I think within a couple of years mist if not all wc dh bikes will be on 650b wheels.
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 Sweet looking ride. Anyone asked how the long term durability is? Some people can't afford a $4000 frame and have to buy it used. So when we do is the frame still structurally sound?
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 They said they'll be offering a complete bike for under $4,100, so the frame shouldn't be too unreasonable compared to others. Not to say a couple grand isn't a lot of money.
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 Sold me on it just like the Entourage take my money please. KONAS marketing team kills it!!!!
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 It's not their marketing team...it's the awesome products and bikes they make, right?
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 When I saw the photo at the bottom I thought the drop was actually a step up and I got hyped, then I watched the video and go more hyped. What do I have to dial to get one of these again?
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 Looks great! But, in that render with the graphs... The rear rotor is on backwards Wink
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 I admittedly have never ridden a Kona and don't know much about them except for the bad reputation they have on the interweb. While it will ultimately come down to how the bike performs, I like what they are doing here.
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 You know....frame weight is 3.307 without shox.
WTF!? Intense socom: www.sicklines.com/gallery/data/529/intense_socom_fro_weight_frame_only_150mm_dropouts.jpg
I dont understand for what they've made carbon triangle. Really. For my opinion: carbon frames MUST be lighter than alu.
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 It is lighter than their alu model
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 But its not lighter than intense or session 88.
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 Killer bike from Kona's end, terrible job naming your son after a dog though
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 You didnt build that! Lol, obummer will proly ban this import. Atho it operates like many others, it looks too scary and look at all those bullets! This things at full capacity! Forward!
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 Clinging to your guns and religion again are you? The government knows whats best for you. Pay up. You're welcome.
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 i cannot abandon the similarity of geometry between Kona Operator 2014 and Commencal Supreme H World Cup 2014...except for the rear suspension style, but anyway..great job Kona...hope can riding it soon
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 There was an era when Kona frames didn't impress me. But that has completely changed. Their current work is quite impressive, and by my estimates, Kona now sits comfortably among the top bike manufacturers. Well done!
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 LOL WHAT!? Maaan old konas where AWESOME! They were gold standart of DH frame. 1 year ago i've bought operator, that commercial of "Hello mr. Smith" so impressed me, so i went on Dh cup aaaand....12 cracks on down tube. Also kickback was soooo big so my 971 chain torn. Old Kona was better than nowadays "foil-frames". Ask Fabien Wink
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 If ull watch this photo in Xlarge ull see thats chain is broken. www.pinkbike.com/photo/7054561/?s6
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 Finally some good music in a video. Can't hear those wobbletracks anymore but tbh. the sfx ruined it for me. Should have left the whoosh, whroom and bbbrrrr. Sick riding though.
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 I'd like to know what a $4000 carbon build weighs in at. If your gonna go carbon why put a cheap ass heavy build on it, kinda defeats the purpose.
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 Sheaman- I would think a carbon DH at 4k would weigh less than an aluminum DH at 4k.

It also allows for a replace and upgrade option.

I like this Kona, great look, awesome price points, and they're not afraid to say "we still like 26" bikes. "
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 I would think it's to keep the cost down, as it says in the article. And if you want to understand why they went to carbon, the article's got that covered too.
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 There will be two builds- if your after light weight, go for the top end. Wanna jump on a badass frame sooner knowing upgrades are inevitable? Go for the base build. Not one of my bikes has remained stock throughout its time in my possession.
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 Nice work kona!!! Looks super mean!!
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 what breed is the dog?
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 I was also wondering that! It almost looks like a mix between a Brittany and some sort of Terrier
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 Interesting comments from mandell- 650b carbon Process next year I reckon
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 Two points went through my head when I read that: 1 they are MARKETING to the naysayers, and the people who complain about the cost of new equipment, and secondly, this could also be read as"We are keeping the cost down, and we missed the 650b memo. We don't have enough room in our rear triangle for the new wheels." Considering every other company notes no real downside to the 650b wheels, or difficulty engineering them into the frame, this is simply a marketing spin. They will get one year out of that marketing, but next year......
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 They see enough value in the wheel to offer it as a hardtail for this year. The explosif is a steel frame long travel hardtail with iscg guide mount, dropper post cable routing, and short 420mm stays. They started shipping two months ago.
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 Willie you have real boner for 650b, don't you. Is it your life's mission to convert everyone? Not everyone likes 650b or 29. That's how it is, make your peace with it and move on.
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 Well if you WANT Kona to keep being successful, you'd want them to hurry up and adopt the wheelsize in something other than just a single hardtail model also, because right now, the brands of similar size (Jamis, KHS, Scott, Ghost, Cube, and Norco for example) all have full suspension models with that wheel size and will draw customers away from Kona.
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 Anyone know what happened to the FRAME ONLY OPTION???
has that gone out the window because i can't find it on the kona website
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 The bike looks sick even if it does remind me of another brand. I am, however, more interested in the prototype tires! They look like the new Hutchinson DZO!
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 sorry meant to say they (the tires) look like the Schwalbe first ride prototypes we saw here on pinkbike a few months ago which looked like a mix between a muddy mary and a dirty dan.
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 Looks awesome! and built in fork bumpers, such a small detail but a much needed one.
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 All I say is you get what you pay for...
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 Ok one the closeups of the frame history on the wall, what model was the 4-bar horst-link black thing next to roland green's race frame ?
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 Even the Aluminum test mule looks good to me. Smile
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 i like to think that if i get this sick ass bike when it comes out ill shred just as hard as aggy but then i think again a notice that i still suck compared to him.
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 The suspension linkage being curved around in line with the seat-stays makes the bike so much more attractive when compared with previous Kona's.
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 my jaw is just pinned to the floor! Great job kona, im already out riding and practicing so you can sponsor me Smile yes, please? maybes good enough for me!
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 So cool to see the Green/yellow flames HT on the wall...I had that frame with that paint and a killer custom build. Too bad the frame crumpled like a tissue from one wreck.
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 Kona, take my money!!! Again! Big Grin
In love with this bike.
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 Dear Santa, I'll take a carbon Kona Operator for christmas...... Thanks.
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 a little early to ask dontcha think?
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 Last year he got a Delorean so....you know
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 delorean>everything else
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 Wheres the 40s at?
Konas rockin boxxers?
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 did you notice that the boxxer is a 2012 as well? surprised no one mentioned it yet!

with that said.. im off to order a 40 for my 2012 supreme operator build Big Grin
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 very nice , anyone know what Maxxis tire those are ?
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 I'm gonna take a punt and say they're WetScreams
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 look like cut down wetscreams scratch that, proto shit
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 Proto's, Muddy Mary's in the crosshairs...
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 Yup, those are prototypes!
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 It's the Maxxis knock-off of the Specialized Hillbilly...payback for the Butcher.
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 Haha, no it's not a knock-off of the Hillbilly! There are no hard feelings w/ Specialized. The Bontrager G4, on the other hand...

I actually selected several benchmark tires when designing this new tire: the WetScream, the Muddy Mary, and the Hillbilly. But no tires were copied. Place a Hillbilly or a Muddy Mary next to this tire (when it's available) and you'll see what I mean. I have high hopes for this one!
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 @wbholwell...No offense intended. I used the term, "knock-off" loosely and probably should have said, "inspired by" instead.

With all the Minion DHF, "clones" that have popped up in the last few years, it's easy to assume everybody is just knocking off everybody else's stuff.
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 @donch15, no offense taken!
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 Definitely a different than the Hillbilly because I've seen them side by side. It looks like the Maxxis will clear mud a bit better which is really important ... for a mud tire! This tire is also excellent in the very loose granular type dirt that tends to confuse the DHF tread pattern. Wait for it because it'll be a good one.
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 This Kona is one hot piece of ass, I want one!
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 mounting rear shocks upside down? - why didn't I think of that!
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 Since Kona bikes are so slow, they had to think of something to make it faster. It is just like Racing stripes on cars = One fast ass vehicle
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 Sounds like a "I am faster than you" guy!!!!

youtu.be/QyTyjQbvylg
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 Great looking Kona!!! I am certainly moving kona from the bottom of my bucket list and into the top!
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 Norbs g.........no, no. This bike looks fucken sweet! By far the finest thing i have ever seen from kona! great stuff guys
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 Dude, he got robbed...
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 deja vu..., er, no, can't be. If you have a PB article without the comment about Norbs getting robbed then for sure these are bad times.
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 i used to think konas were kinda shit but this honestly looks so sick. aslong as it is a decent price i may have to save up
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 Damn! Aggy killin it and kona still show the other brand that you can make a non super expensive carbon bike! That's a good job
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 the frame would look loads better just plain black without those shoddy graphics
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 yup, just got a bike boner!
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  • + 0
 beautiful ride, don't get me wrong, but it is reminiscent of the Aurum or Session. I'm guessing the difference lays in the fine detail...?
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 ya like suspension design Kona = single pivot dinosaur
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 sometimes, there such a things as too many curves... This is simple, looks light and agile. Way to go Kona.
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 Why are the manufacturers leading to to believe it's a cabon bike when the rear is still made of aluminum?
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 I keep telling my friends thats my next bike.
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 YES!!! I just pre-ordered mine!!
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 nice , but where can i pre-order one ?
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 Great article, great looking bike. Can't wait to read the first ride review
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 Never thought I'd say the words "kona" and "nice" in the same sentence without the words "is" and "not" in between.
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 you think they could have washed off the bike before they made the video
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 good job, Kona. Also +points for the graphics!
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 Yep, i'm digging those graphics too. It sure is sexy.
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 sad that people are reminded of a tragedy just by some bullet stickers... with that said, i was not one of them. hope that doesnt create too much more of a stir!
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 bike looks awesome and the tyres look like the old tioga white tigers, which i thought were class.
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 Was gonna have a wank on xhamster, but did it watching this instead.
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 the question that everyone want's to know is... when is this beast going to be released to the public?
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 Kona: showing the world how awesome their bikes can be when they put their minds to it. What a nice bike!
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 I'll take the aluminum test mule!
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 Sure the video of Aggy was badass, but do you think it's the bike or just Aggy's crazy riding style.
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 Im just To sceptical on carbon to want one yet. Good ol fashion aluminum with welds will do me just fine. My complete m9 wieght is 34.67 lbs, the only carbon part is seat. My buddys new v10 carbon is heavier by almost a 1/2 pound. He is a little upset about that.
To save wieght you dont need a carbon frame.
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 A simple question is the lifetime frame warranty is still gonna work??????????
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 Anyone else recognize that Maxxis tire?? Prototype??? Great lookin' rig aswell, well done Kona.
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 Forward the link to Santa and don't forget to say please. Contact him early to avoid disappointment.
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 COME ON THEN KONA HATERS LETS HERE WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS ONE LOL
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 is that a session?
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 Please dont be like Specialized and be $10K
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 Kona has Stepped their game up!
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 what tires are those? I cant figure them out. they look dope
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 sick ridin, sick bike, sick trail... I could live in canada, and i could ride a kona, but i couldnt 360 that
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 Surely I can't be the only one who looks at this and sees an Aurum??
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 the Aurum looks like a kona ..... Big Grin
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 Anyone else blow away at how clean the cable routing is on this bike?! Such a clean, simple look.
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 Clean lines and looks very capable on the trail , once again back to a basic form without 97 unessasry pivot points
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 What an attractive looking young lady
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 Really liking this! Kona is on the right path now.
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 Chris Mandell.....so HOT these days!
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 that three was sooo sick off the step down !!!
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 Is it just me or the raw aluminum prototype looks waaaay better!
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 Today is a very happy day for me..... $4100? YES!!! Kona listened!
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 This looks sick!, but its still a kona...
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 Kona have really pulled their finger out on this one!
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 I always loved Kona. This bike is awesome!
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 Maxxis muddy marys? thats right they're that good
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 Only 1 question... why white boxxer crowns?!
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 Theres a first time for everything, I want a Kona!
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 Reminds me of a beautiful english summer's day ..
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 Keen On New Agressiveness
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 its...its...*beautyful*
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 seriously considering this as my next dh rig!
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 wait a second... is it still a Kona??????
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 Nice to see Kona getting back at it!
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 what are they getting at?
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 When's it coming out? I desperately need a new bike?
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 When is this thing going to be released?
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 Do you get a free bong with it?
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 420 Chain stay leghth, appropriate.
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 which program is used to draw the frame?
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 :O .......... looks beautifulllllllllllllllllllllllllll
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 I gotta get me oneSmile
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 Seal Team Six Operator?
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 how much dough is this thing?
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 New MAXXIS tires? Hmmm.. similar as schwalbe. Maybe not.
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 AYYYY KONA!!!! just gonna go shred in my kona
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 looks so kewel...
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 Hats off Kona - you did a good job. A desirable bike indeed!
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 I'm loving the Aluminum test mule, and I wish my office had a dog Smile
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 what tyres on the kona they look like tiogas dh/ maxxis ?
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 soooo cool...it made me smile...
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 black green is my fav Big Grin
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 I love early riding days at Black Rock when its foggy like in this video.
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 this bike looks like a good improvement
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 Now they are using 12x157? Wtf I'm outta here. Too bad, I thought Kona had come to their senses when the Entourage arrived.
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 12 x 150 was hard to line up when replacing a wheel after fixing a flat, right? The 3.5mm extra allows the rear wheel to slot in, same as it does on an XC bike's 142 axle, making wheel changes much, much easier.
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 Yeah, but it means I have to buy another hub and build another wheel set. We all know that's not cheap.... I wanted this bike SO badly, and I never wanted a Kona..... Because of that, it looks like I will never have one either.
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 Not really, it means you will have to buy an adapter which will cost a few dollars. Loads of bikes that run 142mm axles have 135mm hubs with an adapter, this is the same thing.
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 Yeah for instance the Hope hubs are just different length end caps. Nothing more. Cost a few quid, this is a standard that makes no difference to anyone who already has any wheel-set. You could even just use some washers and slide them onto the thru axle if you really felt like it for a hub that doesn't have adapters. Won't make the installation any easier but means you wouldn't have to buy a new wheel for a while anyways.
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 Uh, I've never had, nor seen anyone have a problem getting the axle through a hub. A few seconds of finding the spot, yes. Problem, no. Law of physics say, long distance dropout to bearing make flexible axle. This is not about improved performance in any way. It's about getting you to buy more gear that you don't need.
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 With the way that wheels is secured, I seriously doubt you're going to notice any flex in the system, foghorn1; in the video they explain how much stiffer that rear end is.

And I don't know anyone who hasn't had issues from time to time getting the rear thru axle to line up correctly--I've even seen World Cup mechanics occasionally have to fiddle a bit. But more importantly, play the video about 9:35 in and give it a listen; Chris evidently was thinking it wasn't necessary either--until he changed a flat for the first time with the new axle.
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 If you have the bike on a stand and take the rear wheel out then it can be a pig to hold it in place in mid air while trying to line it up with the chain putting tension on it and sliding the axle in with the other hand so yes it can make it simpler. No one said it is a major problem but it's a small benefits with no draw backs. Also your looking at the distance between the axle without considering anything else. You will never notice the difference between the 157mm and 150mm anyway's as the bike can easily be designed to provide the same stiffness as required. You do not need to buy any more gear, not that is worth the manufactures time and effort anyway's unless you believe the manufactures are wishing to make all their profits from some adaptors to attach to existing hubs. No need to be negative about every standard that is out there. This is one that does make sense and really doesn't affect us financially.
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 That was one tech three off that drop.
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 looks like an honest effort from kona. am sold actually..
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 Personally I don't like Kona but this is awesome.
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 Got to be rad to work there and be part of something like this. Bike looks rad.
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 Looks like a Commencal v3 mixed with a Trek Session, but I might actually like this more though.
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 looks like a norco aurum...
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 how sick would that be, and forward geometry maybe?
tyres look like proto yeah?
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 4000$ carbon bike with Fox Van RC? Comeon put at least a Vivid!!
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 A 7000$ bike with a van rc. What is this
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 Kona is also planning to offer a complete bike at what can only be described as an astoundingly low price for a carbon fiber downhill rig, less than $4,100 USD
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