BOS Mountain Bike Suspension - World Class Engineering

Mar 8, 2008

Bos Engineering, manufactures of high end, and we mean high end suspension, have developed a very nice line up of suspension designed for intense applications. World Cup rider Nicolas Vouilloz recently had a few rounds on the Idylle fork, and was very pleased. But hey, don't take our word for it, read on for more information.

Bos Idylle Downhill Fork
At last!

The much-anticipated new downhill fork from BOS succeeds the legendary upside-down V Process factory fork ridden for more than 5 years by Nicolas Vouilloz, multiple World Champion and new BOS test rider.

In five years, a lot of water has flowed under the bridge in Toulouse, and we have learned a lot from working at the top level in different disciplines. We applied our mountain-bike knowledge to cars in the early years at BOS, and now we’re applying the car knowledge gained from our involvement in WRC and Rallye Raid to bikes!


The first thing you notice about the Idylle Pro is that it’s a pressurized fork, thanks to the separate reservoir. It uses the same technology as the rear shock, and is obviously similar to the famous Mitsubishi WRC factory shock.

Like many of the high-performance BOS rear shocks, the Idylle Pro has an adjustable hydraulic bottom-out.

You’ll also see that the compression adjuster on the piggy-back reservoir is exactly the same as the one on the Stoy shock - a matching set.


The high and low-speed compression damping and rebound damping are all adjustable on the Idylle Pro.


The version that you see here is pre-production and will be very similar to the final version which should be available in a few weeks. We’ll be putting the finishing touches to it with the help of Fabien Pedemanaud and Nicolas Vouilloz, who will also take it on its first downhill runs.

The Idylle Fork Features:
-Pressurized damping system
-Single damping cartridge with piggy-back reservoir, right-hand side
-Adjustable hydraulic bottom-out
-200mm travel

Adjustments:
-high and low-speed compression damping, rebound damping
-Spring and preload on left-hand side
-Air bleed screw on top of both upper tubes
-7050 aluminium upper tubes – 36mm diameter
-Magnesium lowers
-Forged 6061 aluminium crowns
-1 1/8” steerer
-20mm axle diameter
-Post mount

Next up is the Stoy rear Shock.
Successor to the DH07, Stoy is the new downhill shock from BOS. Even more advanced than its predecessor, its main design change is a new piggy-back shape and shorter reservoir. Its compression adjustment assembly is completely new. Stoy’s mounting hardware uses needle roller bearings, a luxury reserved up ‘til now for Nicolas Vouilloz’s “factory” shocks. The benefits: bushing play reduced to zero, and incredible durability compared to normal mountings.


As with all BOS shocks, Stoy is fully adjustable and easy to service. Each new shock is set-up specifically to suit the rider and the bike.


Stoy fits most downhill bikes on the market. It’s also available in non-standard sizes on demand.

Features :
-Hydraulic monotube shock with 3-way valving

Adjustments:
-high and low-speed compression damping, rebound damping
-Can be completely disassembled, serviced and re-built
-Custom-tuned to match rider weight, style and bike
-Aluminium reservoir housing, sealhead, body, preload collar and eyelet
-12mm shaft diameter
-Needle-bearing mount kit

The BOS downhill fork cartridges are now well-known on the race circuit for their performance improvement. Initially developed for the Marzocchi 888, kits are now available for the RockShox Boxxer and, recently, the Fox 40

BOS have used a hydraulic system based on Nicolas Vouilloz and Anne Caroline Chausson’s BOS forks, tested by Karim Amour who has been perfecting the 888, Boxxer and Fox 40 kits over the last three years.


The BOS cartridge kits totally transform your downhill fork, as the original internals are completely replaced by the BOS system. In effect, it’ll feel like a totally new fork!

Most downhill forks work in a pretty similar way. Their weak damping systems aren’t up to the demands of top level racing, and can’t match the ability of the best riders.

How does the BOS kit improve my fork?

The most noticeable difference is the damping. When you brake, it doesn’t dive as much. It does go down (which is necessary), but not as far and it’s more controlled. It’s the same on big compressions, the fork doesn’t sink down as much or spike. It’s the relationship between spring and damping … one is useless without the other!


Effective damping allows the rider to move over the front of the bike in a more aggressive position and keep the speed up over bumps. Now, instead of feeling like the bike comes to a standstill, it will not only keep its speed (even on braking bumps) but also accelerate away strongly after the hit.

You’ll notice an amazing increase in front wheel grip allowing you to track the ground better and you’ll naturally want to bring your weight forward to give better steering, later braking and make it easier to keep your line.


It’s the bike’s higher front-end position which allows you to keep your speed and acceleration, without feeling like the rear suspension is pushing you.

Maintenance and durability

The BOS kit is a lot more reliable than most other fork internals. It’s often the unseen attention to detail which gives better performance. But you’ll only notice this when you ride it … not in the shop window! All the components are hard-anodized, which means the oil stays cleaner and therefore increases the life of the fork. Whereas top riders might be used to doing an oil change on their conventional fork every three months (or weeks … or runs!), BOS recommend one oil change per season for regular competitors, and once a year for amateur or occasional riders.

For More information on Bos products please visit there website at:
www.Bos-Engineering.com


In more recent news, Bos Engineering signed Nicolas Vouilloz:
http://www.pinkbike.com/news/nico-vouilloz-bos-3-year-2008.html
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flag Gibison (Mar 8, 2008 at 1:06)
Sweet
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flag viccityburner (Mar 8, 2008 at 20:34)
loos like good stuff that'd be sweet to have but i dont trust that demper on the right leg looks like it is very brakeable and would be alot to fixFrown
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flag newbikesoon (Mar 8, 2008 at 23:10)
all part of the plan buddy....all part of the plan....
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flag huckoveraduck (Mar 9, 2008 at 3:40)
I have a craving to smash that reservoir off the works at fort william! haha
But on a serious note, I like the quailty. Such as how the shock has roller bearing races in the bushes, its got a touch of class. And also the red look has already grown on me.
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flag rffr (Mar 9, 2008 at 22:10)
its not as bad as you guys think. My old white brothers has a similar setup and never had any problems. I chunked it on some rocks a few times and it held up fine. The design is proven to work and not break so I dont see any of these guys forks having problems either.
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flag industrial (Mar 11, 2008 at 12:01)
Newbikesoon:

The resevoir although possibly liability in terms of reliability is a huge performance addition.

If you want a fork without, there is a market full of them so go buy one of those and dont assume everyone is trying to play you.
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flag jedy (Mar 8, 2008 at 1:13)
niiice
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flag yellowpit (Mar 8, 2008 at 1:22)
brilliant forks.
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flag michelwijnand (Mar 8, 2008 at 1:38)
the reservoir is just waiting to hit a rock or something
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flag stormysquid (Mar 8, 2008 at 1:48)
and you think the company didnt take that to consideration ?
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flag proxx (Mar 8, 2008 at 4:37)
if the reservoir is vulnerable than what do you say about disc brakes?
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flag bigburd (Mar 8, 2008 at 8:30)
yes but disc brakes wont cost as much as that unit and wont explode
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flag shredbag (Mar 8, 2008 at 9:56)
ya the reservoir could get hit, it should be higher on the lowers
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flag radoon (Mar 8, 2008 at 10:59)
I think that who has the money to buy the fork....has also the money to buy another reservoir if it get damaged...no?

awesome fork... really!
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flag bike-person (Mar 8, 2008 at 17:58)
i think it would be fine... the company obviosly did take it into consideration, and its on the back of the fork leg and i can never remeber hitting the back of my fork legs on a rock or anything, BUT even if they did raise the resivoir up even 1" it would save alot of worrying of landing on the side of a rock the wrong way.
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flag rffr (Mar 9, 2008 at 22:11)
like I stated above, I had a similar setup on my white bros dh-3's. Never had a problem. Put it into a few large rocks multiple times. Never even bent the thing.

You guys are speculating about stuff you have never even rode on. Why dont you try the design before you bash it?
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flag almostwise (Mar 10, 2008 at 8:57)
if you've ever seen a fox shock explode you'll understand peoples reservations. look sweeeeeet tho...if only i had the money Smile
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flag crankmeister (Mar 8, 2008 at 1:41)
world best suspension !!!
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flag jasmins (Mar 8, 2008 at 1:49) (Below Threshold) show comment
no it isnt the best fork. mine is
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flag dotca (Mar 8, 2008 at 2:09)
Got proof?
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flag wee-man1on1 (Mar 8, 2008 at 4:41)
he's got triple eights, WOO:S
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flag Caiokv (Mar 9, 2008 at 14:03)
888 is really good, but not the best...
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flag almostwise (Mar 10, 2008 at 8:58)
my fork is best...it enables me to transfer food from plate to mouth.
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flag derfmtb (Mar 8, 2008 at 2:06)
awesome idea!
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flag djivotno (Mar 8, 2008 at 2:46)
Humm "The Boys are back in town" Smile
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flag matt-mccabe (Mar 8, 2008 at 2:52)
Very Nice Razz
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flag esthete (Mar 8, 2008 at 3:00)
in the first picture, in the middle, the part that is out of focus, with the silver at the top...am i the only one that is not quite sure what exactly it is that is being shown
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flag schiz (Mar 8, 2008 at 3:08)
that picture is the same one on the far right...same thing
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flag dp2man (Mar 8, 2008 at 9:23)
Its the shock without the spring
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flag esthete (Mar 8, 2008 at 13:38)
of course i can see that it is the same thing as on the far right. i am not blind. secondly, it is not the shock without the spring, compare the pictures.
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flag satan-cp (Mar 8, 2008 at 16:46)
mitsu wrc shock body
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flag bike4boy (Mar 9, 2008 at 13:52)
you do have a point.
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flag antigravityluis (Mar 8, 2008 at 3:13)
niiiice, like the idea of the needle roller bearings in the shock too. i want.
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flag christianh (Mar 8, 2008 at 5:08)
the demper on the right leg of the fork ? i don't like that allot
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flag scolty (Mar 8, 2008 at 5:48)
tis simple.... those are getting bought for my shocker Big Grin
happy days Big Grin
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flag stryke (Mar 8, 2008 at 6:01)
wait until you see the price, theyre not cheap
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flag cunning-stunt (Mar 8, 2008 at 8:22)
Does anyone know the price of these products, or has that not been decided yet?
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flag yesok (Mar 8, 2008 at 8:38)
£500ish
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flag yesok (Mar 8, 2008 at 8:39)
(shock)
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flag quentos (Mar 8, 2008 at 11:12)
The Kit to improve 888, fox 40, and boxxer, are sold around 400 euros.
The previous rear shock was 600 and no price yet on the fork.
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flag louis2468routier (Mar 8, 2008 at 12:21)
Ive seen something on another website thats saying the price of the rear shock in cad$ is around the 1000$ mark...
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flag thebigmike (Mar 8, 2008 at 6:40)
those are SICK!!! they look very nice
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flag kean99 (Mar 8, 2008 at 6:48)
looks cool
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flag shondo (Mar 8, 2008 at 7:23)
Let's see if anybody wins a WC round on one.
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flag weekendwarriorr (Mar 8, 2008 at 9:17)
bike doesnt make a rider man.
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flag whatsabike (Mar 8, 2008 at 12:39)
but the bike makes the rider better
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flag mtnbykr05 (Mar 8, 2008 at 20:56)
No, the bike only pushes the limits on how much better the rider can be.
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flag bike4boy (Mar 9, 2008 at 13:53)
Id hat to say it but iun any thing you are only as good as your tools.
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flag ArthurGreen (Mar 8, 2008 at 7:38)
I want one! Wink
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flag eric---o (Mar 8, 2008 at 7:53)
They look very similar to boxxers. I beleive they use the motion control system also.(correct me if I'm rong.) Is this company somehow related to sram? Do they have a deal with them?
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flag djbruno (Mar 8, 2008 at 8:12)
nice forks
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flag djbruno (Mar 8, 2008 at 8:12) (Below Threshold) show comment
nice forks
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flag bigburd (Mar 8, 2008 at 8:32)
rofl every one here has jsut read this review and automatically assumed they are gonna be 'the best forks ever'
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flag boolmv (Mar 8, 2008 at 8:41)
for the wc winning. it's not all about the bike and components you know. there is a rider involved too haha. but ya very nice fork.
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flag weekendwarriorr (Mar 8, 2008 at 9:20)
yah i agree. between all the WC forks out there.. having one or the other wont make you any faster man. I dont think so anyways....
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flag dhmtb758 (Mar 8, 2008 at 9:44)
damn how much is that going to be ? probably not going to see to many of those for a few years. Looks sick though !
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flag runwithscissor09 (Mar 8, 2008 at 9:45)
sounds promising, but not exactly what I would call a sexy fork.
Never heard of the company so maybe I've been living in a cave?
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flag quentos (Mar 8, 2008 at 11:08)
The company is not famous in the US because BOS is a French company.
Products are not imported yet to the US. Even in france they're not famous because they focus on top riders and mostly competitors.
They sell great products but only on aftermarket and it's quite expensive as well.

Great fork though.
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flag maximvs (Mar 8, 2008 at 10:00)
Cocorico ! Great...
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flag tintodj18 (Mar 8, 2008 at 10:05) (Below Threshold) show comment
yea i agree i think the resivoirs are wating to hit a rock then EXPLODE
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flag odin333 (Mar 8, 2008 at 10:32)
sweet, but theirs not one good picture of the fork, someone decided to just be all "artsy" and take pictures of it like unside down.
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flag alcantara (Mar 8, 2008 at 10:36)
nice
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flag dmadness (Mar 8, 2008 at 11:55)
I don't think the resoivoir is any more subject to a rock strike that any bike component is in a crash, and that's a risk you take anytime you're pushing it. I'd like to see some video of the fork at play and Learn more about the internal working's.. Not sure if I like the look of it yet.
If it makes my fork feel better then MAybe I'll be getting a kit. What the hell else do you spend your hard earned money on ? I'd also be interested to hear from somebody who has ridden this product Cause we all know that EVERY company has "The best thing EVER" for Mtb.
Look's interesting.
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flag Axel26 (Mar 8, 2008 at 12:02)
fkn sweeeeeeeeeeeet Big Grin
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flag el-shreddo (Mar 8, 2008 at 12:16)
That fork looks pretty sick. Though I´m not sure about how that extra-weight on the right influences the steering. But since this is a racing fork and hasn´t necessarily to prove itself by beeing "normal" (boring?), it might be just fine...
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flag Josabuddy (Mar 8, 2008 at 12:23)
it looks usual...
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flag eric---o (Mar 8, 2008 at 13:43)
Getting back to what I was saying before, take a look at this pic http://www.bos-engineering.com/images/oscar895-1072.jpg This is their last years model of the 'bos' fork. It seems to be a replica of a boxxer. Just a diferent paintjob. You can even see the motion control sticker on the lower crown.
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flag jvnixon (Mar 8, 2008 at 14:03)
No, that is a Boxxer not a BOS fork. It does have a BOS cartridge in it and BOS stickers.
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flag Jean-gab (Mar 8, 2008 at 14:00)
nice fork!!
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flag gmanbam857 (Mar 8, 2008 at 14:07)
raw
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flag blackwolf (Mar 8, 2008 at 15:19)
nice haha probly a fairly nice sized price tag though
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flag stickyntricky (Mar 8, 2008 at 15:53)
this company aint fuc*ing around... all these BS companies.. rockshox, marzocchi and manitou need to step up to the plate and get on the train with fox and Boss....... this is the suspension of the future kids, like it or not..... and for all of you who say the bike don't make the rider, true dat, but when your fork actually works.. ahem... things go by at a much faster pace.....
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flag fatprophet (Mar 9, 2008 at 18:19)
marzocchi makes a sick fork, i don't know what you're talking about above. fox is way cool, but their seals fail if you are any sort of an aggressive rider. i've blown four fox forks in a season; two of those were in one day at whistler. marzocchi suspension is solid. rockshox and manitou do need to step it up a bit. that's not to say boss isn't. boss is sick. i wanna ride one. not too sure about that reservoir on the fork leg though...
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flag olynch (Mar 10, 2008 at 2:19)
I think manitou and rockshox have stepped up 1 in the last 2 years, manitou being bought my sram has have vast improvment compared to their 04/05 forks. Also rockshox have brought the ultimate totem which, the seal problems have been fixed and they still are producing the best dh race fork out there - boxxer.
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flag olynch (Mar 10, 2008 at 2:20)
Sorry, manitou being bought by hayes***
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flag stickyntricky (Mar 8, 2008 at 15:54)
*** 6 years of suspension tuning and modification to back this up ^^^^^^^^^^
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flag frankytanktom11 (Mar 8, 2008 at 18:01)
are they just making a triple crown fork and rear suspension or are they going to have other models
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flag thatdownhillkid (Mar 8, 2008 at 19:38)
looks sooo sick, but i don't like the fact that the shock says MTBdownhillshock. it just doesn't seem neccesary. it's kinda repetative. anyone that's gonna look that closely at the shock will probably know that it's for DH. just put BOS. way cooler.
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flag robc (Mar 8, 2008 at 20:22)
When are we going to see shocks like the one on the new Audi R8 carry over to MTB? Metallized oil controled by variable voltage that changes the viscosity and damping characteristics on the fly, now that's the future.
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flag fuck-thepolice (Mar 9, 2008 at 15:09)
yeah thats called electro-magnetic suspension, it senses the condition of the shock 1000 times a second, its perfect. but i bet that would be too heavy for use on mtb. + it uses electricity.. maybe one day
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flag olynch (Mar 10, 2008 at 2:22)
Theres way around then, creating electricity from the wheel, just being a suggestion.
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flag freeriderrr4852 (Mar 8, 2008 at 22:53)
your going to need to come up with a little guard that covers it from branches/rocks etc.
and could you mount it to the frame in anyway? (might help get it out of the way of debris/rocks etc.)

But all in all its a great idea and cant wait to see them out on the trail!!
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flag DAMZ (Mar 9, 2008 at 5:36)
I WANT THIS FORK! NOW!!Evil
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flag bauer2 (Mar 9, 2008 at 7:39)
yep one good crash n say good bye to that reservoir.
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flag ricofromeurope (Mar 9, 2008 at 7:56)
Vive le savoir faire français
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flag cracka (Mar 9, 2008 at 8:55)
ya the resevoir would break off pretty easy in a bad landing
but its probably pretty beefy if its all the way down there
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flag terrance (Mar 9, 2008 at 10:58)
I'd rather have my 40rc2 or a the new 08 dorado
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flag P14Y80Y (Mar 9, 2008 at 12:17)
anyone hear about a price tag yet?
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flag skizlo (Mar 9, 2008 at 12:40)
hmmm i wonder if the sextoy will come in an eye to eye short enough for a reign x.... probably not but i wouldn't mind if it did.
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flag banshee-ripper (Mar 9, 2008 at 12:58)
Nice forks, but the uppers and crowns look like white brothers, the axle clamp looks boxxer, and the arch looks like the early manitou's with the carbon bonded arches...!

And to skizlo, did you not see it says odd sizes avail. on demand?!!!
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flag tylergolling (Mar 9, 2008 at 14:37)
thos are so dope
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flag pimptanner (Mar 9, 2008 at 20:01)
those things are going to break off the forks but the rear shocks nice
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flag olynch (Mar 10, 2008 at 2:24)
I completely agree with this amazing technology but i think companies, outside companies which are not known to the average mountain biker, need to make budget shocks and forks, which perform to a good level but for a cheap price, would allow every riders to extend there level of riding..
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flag marquis (Mar 10, 2008 at 5:10)
500+ quid for the 888 internals,ha ha i know engineering costs but no way.
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flag stigzy (Mar 10, 2008 at 9:10)
ave got a pair
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flag gadmack (Mar 10, 2008 at 9:13)
I can't wait to pimp my ride with these. As for that piggy back on the bottom of the fork, I just checked the back of the lower legs on all five pairs of forks I have lying around and couldn't find any serious scratches, dents or bits snapped off!! What's more, all of my disc rotors were in good shape and even the RC2 adjuster on my 40's (which caused similar concerns when it was launched) is still there. If you are planning on ramming the bottom of your fork legs into stuff then don't buy the BOS forks. That way, you'll be able to sleep at night!!
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flag tanano (Mar 10, 2008 at 10:30)
This sistem work like WHITE BROTHERs Suspencions?
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flag Atli (Mar 10, 2008 at 16:58)
were are they from?
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flag giantgl0ryh0le (Mar 11, 2008 at 11:23)
from telouse france, gimme gimme gimme, sik fork and shock
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flag kuszpit (Mar 11, 2008 at 10:38)
I dont think the separate reservoir on the forks would last on second at fortwilliam or Dunkeld without getting snapped of.=P
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flag socal160 (Mar 21, 2008 at 13:50)
man i cant wait till i put these on my bike. that stuff is sick!!!!!
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flag shorty980 (Mar 25, 2008 at 14:29)
how much are those forx?!?!?!
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flag mikecurrier (Mar 27, 2008 at 7:47)
Early estimates put it at 1999 Euros orrrrr only $3100USD.
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flag cecko (Jun 2, 2008 at 6:08)
Stoy Rear Shock Price
Stoy options - 200x57 / 215x63.5 / 222x69 / 240x75 / 266x89 - £495
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flag oonser (Feb 3, 2009 at 21:07)
dude i think the fork is cool. the resivour had some consideration put into it. they probably made it with stronger materials. so thats why they were confedent about it and stuck it back there
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flag oonser (Feb 3, 2009 at 21:17)
but im gonna have to agree with what that dude up there said. rockshock marzocci, and manitou are gonna have to step it up. the fox 40 and the bos forks are dooing the best. iv ridden both the bos and the 40. and all the other forks. the 40 and bos are by far the best.
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flag session66 (Mar 2, 2009 at 8:56)
they make these forks easy to break, so you have to give them more money.
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flag morespeed (Apr 13, 2009 at 19:00)
how much ? for the fork
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