Crash Video: Taylor Vernon Goes Down at Val di Sole

Jun 16, 2013 at 13:13
Jun 16, 2013
by Karl Burkat  
 
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Everyone was wondering what happened to Taylor as he didn't seem to finish. The answer is here...Luckily he was ok. This is one TOUGH competitor.


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278 Comments

  • + 243
 those screams sent chills down my (no pun intended) spine... poor guy GET WELL SOON!
  • + 66
 nothing more to add.

sometimes i think it should be mandatory (at least for the young riders) towear backprotection. same conditions for everyone.
  • - 33
 a spine plate wouldnt have helped in this case
  • + 43
 neck brace would have been nice :/ looks like he compressed his neck when he ragdolled, f*ck that was brutal !!!
  • + 12
 That was a huge hit ! Get back riding soon man
  • + 44
 good god. hearing a dude scream "my back! my back!" is scary as f*ck. Get well soon Taylor!!!
  • + 93
 Neck brace and spline pad should be mandatory. As long as they aren't, riders will not wear them because they cost time, but if a minimun safety standart is compulsory, everybody would be equal and there would be no excuse. People are leveling up at an insane pace, and such a crash could end terribly wrong. It is a matter of time untill someone is not as fortunate as he was, and I don't wanna see a fellow rider injured.
  • + 29
 www.pinkbike.com/photo/5440916

I know some think it over the top but it has worked so well for me over and over and over. Dainese spine guards have been proven in Moto GP for some of the most serious OTB accidents.

Not pressuring anyone, wear what you want. But when I ride DH I wear it. People who have witnessed my crashes know it works. You never know when you are going down hard. Another rider in your way after a gap, a little slip of judgement, bad traction. Happens to the best and I am nowhere near "the best".
  • + 9
 Wow, glad I had my sound muted.
  • - 69
 I've seen the people still wearing back protectors on the trails and honestly they all share a similar trait; they are not very good at riding bikes. I call them suits, and I wonder how they got stuck in 2004. Neck brace yes, back brace no. They are nothing but a false sense of security, and if anything will cause a crash.
  • + 7
 ouch. poor bloke, i hope he heals up ok. As far as im aware, there is not a product that protects the thoracic and lumbar spine from axial loading injury. While the plates are good at protecting from impact, eg in the 661 armour, if there is a heavy load from the top or bottom of the spine in a crash, those plates will do nothing.
  • - 33
 Neck braces are not always the best. If you whip or extend your head far enough, the brace can actually act as a leverage point and break your neck easier. What riders should be using is something similar to what is used in auto racing. The device is called a hybrid system. It straps around your whole body and connects your helmet with the rest of your body.
  • + 19
 Gawdodirt. I don't think you grasp a full understanding of how a neck brace works. It is designed FOR the event that your head whips or extends far enough...in fact, it's designed to prevent those exact movements. The edges of your helmet collide with the brace and provide an alternate loading path for the force transmitted by the ground - into your helmet and brace, and around your neck - to your shoulders instead. What the $%^& are you on about the second half of your comment? Just how do you propose a full body strap be worn on a bicycle? Never mind. I'm just going to pretend I didn't read that.
  • - 32
 I completely understand how a brace works. The brace basically catches your head. I am saying that if you continue to apply force with your helmet already touching the brace, it will leverage your neck. I am sorry you can not grasp the concept, but trust me. It is the truth. That is why neck braces are not used in automotive racing. Google images "hybrid pro". It is the first image. I hope this helps with your understanding of the second half of my comment.
  • + 14
 yeah i'm pretty sure if you stretch your neck enough to hook the side of your helmet on your brace for it to act as "leverage" then your neck is already fking broken dude..
  • + 34
 if you wear pads then it doesn't count. even helmets are wimpy in my opinoin. ride naked for the true experience
  • + 11
 I have raced Moto for since I was 7. Im now 21, I have been around a lot of injuries.
My own brother broke his back qualifying for Loretta Lynn's Amateur National (For all of you that dont know, the most prestigious race you can qualify for before actually turning pro, and the proving grounds for anyone who is anything in the sport).

Anyhow, we were lucky enough to know a select group of people and were given some of the first Leatt Braces in production to test out. They were a little difficult to get used to at first, but after a few rides I would never ride without one. I watched my brothers motor seize in the air over a double, landed on his face from 10+ feet in the air, knocked out cold. Got up 5 minutes later and the brace had done its job. Although it transferred all the energy into his now snapped collar bone, it would have been his neck if he had not had the brace on.

I can guarantee you that these neck braces do there job 99% of the time if worn and fitted properly.

I know I would rather snap my collar bone then my neck and possibly dislodging my brain stem
  • + 24
 The french motocross federation was wondering if they should make neck braces obligatory. So they ordered a study to a biomechanical lab (University of Marseill, France). So it's a mechanical model, not based on statistics of accidents. The kind of braces tested were of the type Leatt brace (with a support at the rear right on the spine).
In short the results were: those kind of braces should be worn with a back plate, otherwise the stress on the spine is too high and can lead to tetraplegy instead of death.... Not really nice. As fas as I know, back plates are compulsory in MX in France, and all standard protectors (knee, elbow and back) are compulsory in DH in France. That's why during the last world cups in France we've seen some world cup riders proudly wearing kornflakes boxes taped inside their shirt... and thinking they were smart. In the end it's their problem.
Strangely enough, 10 years ago everybody was wearing massive body armour and even padded shorts whereas the courses were not really gnarly (ok, the bikes were not as good!). But now courses are sick, the guys are 10x faster and all they wear are knee pads because more is uncool.
  • + 4
 On thursday I managed to have a crash which i cannot remember(concussion) the only thing i do know from it is that without my leatt the bruise on my sternum would most likely be a broken neck! Will never ride without it!
  • + 1
 All of these hard shell protecting gears (back plate or neck brace) are going to protect some zones efficiently, but will wicken some others by bringing in more stress.
Back plates are being more and more used for skiing/snowboarding for instance. Statistics show a decrease of injury in that zone (as expected!) and an increase in some others (more neck injuries).
If you really want to protect everything efficiently in the end you'd like as agile as a robot of the 80's. I still hardly understand riders not wearing back plates. This does not disturb like a neck brace, and that will protect a large zone. Neckbraces also make sense for sure but they surely need more development. The Dainese proto looked interesting as the one of another brand (forgot it, Atlas?) as it rests on the scapula. But then is it as efficient for the neck? I can't answer that.
  • - 56
 "Those screams sent chills down my (no pun intended) spine", they made me laught. You didnt see any real crashes did you? That was just a bruise.
  • + 4
 I was there and believe me it has been a hard crash ... vds is a so rough and unforgiving track .. but i have to say that despite this most of athletes were wearing nothing than knee pads .. this can be good on other tracks but not for vds ...
  • + 10
 @jejQ Just...just shut the fuuuuuuuuuck up.
  • - 11
 some people here sounds like "u wouldnt break ur leg if u will wearing body armor", extreme sports always was something not for everyone, something crazy, wild, extremly dangerous. But now this sports are way more popular in this times, everyone want to be cool, everyone want to do this stuff but at the beggining u need to realize that its really dangerous and u can even die. So if u normal everyday guy, stay at home or ride cross country, stop telling people what they should wear. My friend break his leg by tree hit, and he hit that tree by his plastic pad. Extreme sports was always about being free, about taking risk and breaking barriers. Watch wingsuit flying, every mistake there is deadly, u cant protect ur self there so maybe this sport should be banned and jumping from the cliffs should be a crime. Extreme sports are dangerous and thats why they are called "extreme" u cant change this, if u want to be safe try something normal.
  • + 0
 @gawdodirt i'm sorry you fail to realize that this is an mtb site and were talking about going 50km hr on a bike, not in a car or a motorcycle that goes like 200mph or however fast they go. so unfortunately your comments are really invalid and no one is going to "attach their helmet to their body with a strap or whatever the f*ck it is ur on about XD
  • - 7
 I'm an advocate of pro-choice. Wear what makes you feel comfortable but don't impose your views on my riding.

Motocross has less restrictions then what a lot of you are implying should be applied to DH... How does that make any sense?

Not to mention this sport is expensive enough - of course companies are going to push for mandatory equipment because guess what - they get paid even more.

Honestly - any style of biking is dangerous and DH is very extreme so, again, wear what makes YOU feel comfortable but don't impose outrageous restrictions on OTHER riders. They can make the choice to wear any protection they want and you can bet every rider going down a DH course knows the impending danger they're facing.


IT'S AN EXTREME SPORT - GET OVER IT

The fault lies on the parents for not forcing their CHILD to wear adequate protection after signing a waiver that nullifies the course of any repercussions/responsibility if their CHILD crashes and DIES or is seriously injured...

If you don't want your kid getting hurt don't sign the f*cking waiver..
  • - 5
 I guess that based upon your ignorant comment a few of the previous comments are also so called "invalid". A impact is an impact, no matter what you are doing, and the better these impacts are managed, the safer the person will be. The system I am talking about is not BS and is mandatory in all major forms of motorsports. There is a reason for this. It is because they work. Leatt braces, however, are illegal in auttomotive motorsports because they do not work well enough and they do exactly as what I have stated before. The impacts in automotive motorsports are way more severe than in mountain biking. Thus, the system in use needs to be better and safer and, correct me if I am wrong, but isn't that what we are going for? A safer system?
  • + 2
 oh my god ! what the hell CARES ???? the kid fell, it would have not hur his back as much if he would have ha a back plate or a nec brace or both, no one here is talking about auto sports except you, stay on topic, mtb. wear what you want.
  • + 15
 My son went down at 70kph 2 months ago when his rear wheel exploded (reasons unknown).
He was found unconscious in the scorpion position.
Judging from the damage to the SNELL 2010 helmet the emergency room physician had no doubt in my son's high quality helmet and neck brace saved his head and neck.
My son will wear no less....Ever! I don't care what the rules are or what race he could win by taking it off.
There are so many terrible accidents in this sport.
Good protective gear can and does help.
be safe brothers
  • + 2
 I ride dj and its unreal the amount of guys wearing fuck all ! Full face helmets literally saved my life!
  • - 5
 Not sure if he was screaming "my back" or "my bike" but that looked nasty.
  • + 0
 r you deaf o' somthi' boi ?? you think he would give a damn about his bike ??
  • + 4
 I'm alway amazed at how many experts in biomechanics there are on the Pinkbike comment board whenever there is an article about a rider injured when not wearing armour like backplates. Funny how you never hear about the guys getting injured WITH armour on... but then we'd have to start riding already strapped to a spineboard.
  • - 2
 No amirazemi. i just dont speak coronation street.
  • + 0
 I think the reason why people found this crash so bad is that most crash videos are short and usually only show the crash itself however this one showed the moments after the crash and Taylors pain making the crash more real for the viewer's
  • + 0
 He is such an inspiration..
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  • + 55
 Hope he's okay! Get well soon dude :/
  • + 42
 I don't think I actually wanted to see that. Horrible stuff
  • + 35
 I would prefeer to not have seen that.
  • + 19
 The usual rules are if they kick and scream there guna be ok! If there still and quiet big problems! So hopefully all good!
  • - 34
 poor Harry really doesn't like uncle Vernon
  • + 4
 @rc3kartusa why would you say that honestly??

poor guy, I felt bad when I saw he didn't finish but his cries made me feel sick. come on taylor we're all rooting for you!
  • + 1
 @rc3kartusa i get the reference
  • + 5
 @kpilar a lot of people do, just not funny.
  • - 57
 You all act like some retards. That was just a crash, nothing special. And you are like "oh mah gawd, that was so tragic, I wish I had not seen it, wow, that was terrible, the worst accident in the world!". Seriouslly, nothing to se here, that pussy did a front flip, and cried like a baby.
  • + 19
 Thanks for the advice JejQ you keyboard warrior you! You must be pretty damn tough, I'm sure of it.
  • + 17
 I heard that JejQ wears only lycra knicks (with no padding of coarse) when he rides dh and laughs of happiness when he crashes... some even say that he smashes his head against a brick wall... for fun.
  • + 4
 JejQ is selling his body armour on here ha ha! So hard he doesn't need it! Dick
  • + 0
 500$? are you dumb? you can buy it on chain reaction for 130$....
  • - 3
 Im not dumb, pinkbike website is. I have chosen other currency, but it is showing it as CAD, therefore people [like you], think Im dumb and everything I sell is overpriced.

I have wrote many times about it, in the comment, on the forum.. fix the damn website. Dont just introduce more, and more ways, how to get more money out of this bug hole.

On the chain reaction, the only suit I could find is for £161.43 / $ 252,66.

I priced mine at 100,56 GBP, 157,82 USD, 160,84 CAD.

If you want to know the price of my stuff, you just have to divide it by 4.9 [GBP], 3.15~ [USD], 3.1 [CAD].
  • + 2
 @JejQ i know im a little late but oh well Wink by monday, i expect a video of you crashing in a similar way to this and then just getting up and carrying on. Smile
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  • + 39
 Ouch! I'm glad he is ok, but it makes me wonder why they don't wear back protectors?
  • + 12
 i don't get it either.. especially on tracks like these
  • + 6
 TLD does make a "kidney belt" for your lower back
  • + 4
 yeah but I'm not sure how much a back protector would have helped he did a head stand doing like 25+mph. healing vibes to him for sure..
  • + 2
 @ A-Nay3186, any protection is better than no protection at all when you fall. Trust me. I rode unprotected till I got submitted to the hospital. After that, I always ride protected. When I see falls like this and Brook MacDonald at Windham last year after that Major crash come out un scarfed, I will say that they are extremely lucky.

I want to see all these top riders ride as long as possible. Some WC event like MSA oblige the riders to wear a certain amount of protection. I wish that more WC events would do the same.
  • + 1
 This video made me start looking at neck, back, and chest protection online. Not an advert, but TLD and POC stuff seem good and relatively unobtrusive
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  • + 35
 hope he heals up. im kinda suprised by some of the reactions on here though. its like some people dont realize that our sport is about holding onto a bike as we fly down the mountain. people crash some bad some good. could of happened to anyone, not just a WC racer. its a brutal sport for everyone and if you dont know these risks then dont hop on your bike
  • + 3
 Agreed... I've seen some gnarly stuff at Whistler. So much carnage in the bike park.
  • + 1
 yea man, but does it worth it to not to wear protection ?? We all agree about that it's dangerous but for him, i bet he would give alot to have spine protection in that case! So all we are saying that there should be mandatory to wear protection. That kind of crash it's really making to think a lot of "what if-s" which i really don't like.
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  • + 32
 Mandatory D3o spinal protection now, especially on courses like VDS. Seems that until someone gets really hurt is not going to happen.
  • + 7
 Apart from in france
  • + 4
 It wil take someone to get parylized before that happens, probably....
  • - 5
 They shouldn't be mandatory, that would be horrible... people should be able to choose what amount of protection they wear.
  • + 6
 @clixby........u f*cking complete and utter dick!!! That 16 year old kick could have broken his back and spent the rest of his life in a wheelchair......luckily he escaped unscathed, someone may not be so lucky next time. Their bones are still growing at that age and lack the strength of fully grown men. Its a no brainer to wear armour......you tool!
  • + 2
 @clixby......plus, ive just checked ur page......ur only 16 yourself. Have a word with urself and stop giving it the big one. One life you have. Local trails, ok fine, but full blown dh wc courses......definately need armour at ur age.
  • + 4
 Until they are mandatory riders wont where them because it gives them a disadvantage. Riders will only wear them when its compulsory so theres a level playing field. C'mon UCI do something good at least!
  • + 1
 @scarletmeista, I'm sorry but shouldn't you be directing that rage at Taylor Vernon. It's his decision what to wear, nobody is stopping him wearing additional protection. You have to ask where do you draw the line? Spine boards? Neck braces? Elbow pads? What would you have riders wear riding VDS?
  • + 1
 IMO a neck a back brace is more important than knee pads. I mean what would you rather break?
  • + 0
 Wow I can't believe the "pro-choice" argument got shot down. You guys really love your armor eh?
  • + 1
 I didnt say it should be mandatory for the pro elite riders, I said I think it should be mandatory for junior category riders, because at that age, their bones are not fully developed and a re far weaker than a fully grown male. So on large impacts, the younger body will be subject to more damage. As you grow older and you continue to train and produce muscle, the the muscular tissue has a greater chance of protecting the bone. This is another reason why gym excercises like squats and deadlifts are a muscle mass and strength producing exercise, these help in producing stronger bones and muscle volume......proven facts. Hence why you see more riders adopting these in their training. Also help with core and grip. Do you guys not think that it is important to wear protection than put your lives at risk......coz to me, thats just plain stoooooooopid!!!! If it was mandatory in juniors, then it would be a level playing field anyway. I dont wear armour all the time, but this is a different ball game. It will only take one person to become crippled, then maybe ull change ur mind.
  • + 1
 @Samarius plus.....I wasnt directing it at taylor vernon......its a topic in general that I feel is quite important......if it saves ur life!!!!!!!!
  • + 1
 isnt it that younger bones afe softer hence the term "rubber bones" (used in reference to younger riders getting away with some horrible crashes) and that older bones are set harder an more likely to break AND have a more complicated break?

gotta agree with all the comments on manditory protection though when it comes to spine and neck! a grazed knee or broken wrist isnt gonna kill ya or put you in a wheel chair but.........

with racers aiming at saving tenths of a second they will do ANYTHING to be faster so a manditory level makes sense
  • + 0
 Not sure ive heard that one, but maybe possible. Ive heard several cases and seen plenty of scenarios in my line of work, where kids have fallen at skate parks on bmx's, skateboards and broken bones. Luckily ive never broken a bone....(touch wood) but I do feel due to my years of heavy weight training, I feel stronger and more robust at 14st than if I was 10st with a body of a child. Just my take on things.
I totally agree with the shaving seconds off time, but if we look back at all the old videos on line in big dh events, everybody used to wear armour anyway. I personally think its a no brainer for juniors at least.....so what if its not cool to them, it could save their life.
  • + 2
 @scarletmeista Why the hell should it definitely be mandatory for junior riders!? They're not baby's, I'm sure they've ridden long enough to know the risks involved. If they know the risks they should be able to choose what protection they wear. Just because they're younger and their bones are weaker they still have a fully functioning brain which is more than you can say for half of the pro elite downhill riders out there
  • + 2
 well one good reason is they're under 18 (? i think, please correct me if im wrong)
pretty much a common sense age of consent....

and as for having a fully working brain, well yea but, we all know a rider of any age has to switch the brain off to get up to those speeds on that terrain Wink
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  • + 22
 I hope the GT team isn't too pressured for him, i mean he may be really talented but that could all go to waste if he's being pushed to go too fast too quickly. Here's to a good recovery Taylor!!!!
  • + 6
 pretty sure thats not the case here...
  • + 1
 I HIGHLY doubt that is the case. Rach said in an interview, that she told Taylor he has a couple of years of crashing ahead before he'll settle into world cup consistancy, and that he shouldn't worry about it. That doesn't seem like a high pressure environment.
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  • + 24
 Bloody hell. At least he was screaming, silence would have been worse.
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  • + 24
 The speed at which help got to him is shocking, marshals?
  • + 8
 Didnt cg have similar problems with the medics last year in italy
  • - 12
 yup. italians.
  • + 26
 Ohh came on...they took exactly 62 seconds...do you think 30 sec would make any f*cking difference?
  • + 7
 Actually yes, the sooner somebody it treated for a serious injury the better.
  • - 16
 Totally unprofessional.
  • + 30
 In fairness I think it was fairly fast. If I was in Taylors position I'd be happy with the response time. As a marshal you are told to do nothing for 10 seconds, Then they may have been trying to stop riders further up which is the main threat to the rider. They then have to go over the radio and inform the marshals what to do, ask for the medics, inform of the medics the location and what the suspected injury is so they can be sure to bring the equipment they need.
  • + 5
 Yeah, all standard procedure.
  • + 18
 considering how steep and treacherous the terrain is, 62 seconds is damn fast! try phoning an ambulance and expecting help in 62 seconds when you're stuck on a mountain side
  • + 8
 Time is an important factor for internal/external bleeding or for a patient who has difficulty breathing or isn't breathing at all. That first ten minutes could mean life or death. A crash like that could easily rupture your liver and all your blood passes through the liver as it circulates through your body. A broken rib could also puncture a lung. You just don't know until you're able to assess your patient so time is always critical until the patient presents otherwise.

These medics were definitely a little slow, but in their defense, they didn't see the crash happen. This is usually how events go, we get a call on the radio and we respond, then we rely on information from people on scene. But also in their defense, medics are not all equal, we all have a different scope of practice and training level depending on where we work and that dictates how we can respond. They may have some ridiculous rules over there that prevents them from doing things until certain conditions are met.
  • + 7
 Well said Akirizu. Being someone who has gotten the "ride" down the mountain instead of going down on my own power I appreciate all of the EMS guys n gals. They do a great job. People also have to realize that it is on a mountain and not easy to maneuver. I was glad to hear him yell "my back" cause it meant he felt it.
  • + 7
 You can't have medics every 50 yards. I think the response was good and agree that back/neck protection should be mandatory for all. Riders aint going to like it but its the only way to keep everyone safe.

It is simular to the HANS device in motorsport. When this was introduced nobody liked it, but now its the norm....
  • + 4
 60 seconds is a GREAT response time for a course that long and steep.
  • + 1
 I do disagree with the fact they were walking instead of sprinting up the hill though, that would never fly where I work haha.
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 I didnt realise until the second time hes screaming" my back, my back!" Thats scary stuff get well soon taylor
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  • + 18
 Think of this headline the other way: "17 year old breaks his back in bike racing"
I don`t get why they wouldn`t make back protection mandatory, at least at the Juniors!
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  • + 9
 A back protector wont stop all the pain, but will significantly help. A full approvedEN1621-2:2003 (Level 2) back protector is the highest possible level of protection, and will stop penetration, and reduce the force of the energy being tranfered to the body. Forcefield make the highest level protection soft armour in the world, surpassing all other brands, and able to take more impacts to. An incident such as today could lead to severe damage including spinal, kidney and rib, the reason for which back protectors are made. Taylor took an incredibly large impact and would be in pain either way, but if he was wearing a back protector this would be much less.
  • - 17
 Advertisement ?
  • + 6
 Not in the slightest, above people are shouting D30 and I dont hear people complaining? Is the use of a brand name a crime?
Other members are providing CE levels etc, I am merely stating fact in regard to who in the lab has the best results
  • + 5
 But....when they race in France, our professionals make fun of the rules and use shitty stuff to go along (cardboards, tampax, ect...)...this have to stopped, and be mandatory (and hell, if they make fun of the rules, get a disciplinary sanction)....like few people stated before, SPECIALLY in a track as this one.

Now, other people saying the UCI should review the reaction on the paramedics, TRUE, but, keep in mind that the UCI is not the one pulling all the organization, this is based on bids, so, the UCI should review their rules and depending on what the UCI race director believes, he might required a few more paramedics, or a good idea given, was that some Marshalls be first aid trained...
  • - 7
 Where do you draw the line. Maybe they should be wrapped in bubble wrap with a metal exoskeleton? Or we can pad the ground on the courses. Seriously, the rules do not need to be changed. Motocross racing is much more dangerous, and they don't mandate any protection beyond a helmet.
  • + 3
 Oh, so you must be aware of his exact condition and what caused the injury? Care to tell us?
If it was an axial spinal load ie; from a head/neck compression that loads up his spine ( which, if you watch the video, it fairly likely) then no amount of protection wrapped around your waist will prevent anything.
IF his injuries were from side impact, then sure, it could help. But it doesn't look that way in this case does it.
  • + 0
 I, as others, have not claimed to know what the injury may be or its causes. All I have stated is that a back protector would protect the back of the rider. A back protector protects alot more than just a side impact, in fact it is only waist straps that are around the waist, as it runs from the the base of the neck to the tail bone. Therefore an impact on the spine or back area would be reduced by this. If this was a neck injury, yes a back protector would not prevent injury at the point of contact, however it would reduce secondary injuries, as its not just his neck which makes contact. Furthermore a neck brace combined with a back protector would be beneficial. The point which people are raising is he could have landed anywhere on his back and caused serious damage, furthermore his natural reactoin is to complain about his back.
  • + 1
 this chuck norris shit it's getting antique, drop it man, just drop it.
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 i hope he`s ok. he looked in unbearable pain....
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 Brrrrrrrrrrrrrr his screams.... Give me the pain too.... I hope he's really ok....
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 Sort of wish that I didn't see that, wasn't nice at all. Glad that he's not badly injured though! Really hope he does really well next month in Andora, his first two ever World Cup races haven't gone too well for him at all. Rooting for him next month and hope he comes out on top, he deserves it!
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 He didn't hurt his back from landing on it. He lands on his shoulder and head which twists his spine in a nasty way, watch it closely. Doesn't look like a neck brace or spine board would have helped, awkward impact at an awkward angle. Everything was still moving so he should be all good.
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 In VDS all the protective gear should be mandatory to everyone! It's a gnarly track and easily can send anyone to the hospital! Remember what happened to Cedric Gracia one year ago... it was a near death experience... I still remember Cedric in one of his videos explaining what the doctors said to him, when he was at the hospital "I've only saw 2 people with a injury like this, and one is death..." the other one as of course Cedric.
We all know it's a dangerous sport, as it's motogp of F1... so the rules should be more restrictive about the riders without neck brace, and back pads...
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  • + 7
 This is why you should wear protection gear!
  • + 3
 could a pro answer this question in an interview? why do they don't wear body armor, at least only a and chest back protector
  • + 8
 go to school^^^
  • + 6
 I'm just going to assume he's in grade 2 or hammered.
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 Glad to hear he's ok, that could've been an awful injury. I didn't wear back protection til I fractured two vertebrae in a DH crash....now I wear a back protector. Screw the fashion of no armor, I need my back.
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 I wear a neck brace regardless, my friend asks me why I wear it...have I really got to explain why I wear it. Yea sure its more comfortable to not wear one but I'm taking a hunch it's less comfortable to be laying in a hospital bed like Dan Atherton, he's the reason I wear one and now this video makes me want back protection, thing is if your wearing too much armour your not free on the bike, it's a bit of a win lose situation, hope you get better soon buddy
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 Although interestingly Dan doesn't wear one now. Mad innit!
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 thats because he dont do dh no more
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 True but he did his neck dirt jumping so it's not like DH is the only danger
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 I didnt know that but were hes doing enduro he probably wants total movement of his head witch a neck brace dont allow that
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 I felt that one myself through the screen! Get well soon mate!
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 Brutal crash glad hes ok
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 Holy crap hes one tough dude luckley hes okay and every one was helping him out Smile
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 I feel sorry for the guy and I can empathize with him because I was hit by a car on my bike this memorial day and I couldn't even get off of the pavement, I was placed on a backboard and neck brace and I'm thankful I wasn't more seriously injured than I was.
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 Actually can't work out what happens there, but it doesn't look that bad, until he starts screaming. I really don't understand why the pros don't wear protection, they don't even wear elbow pads, go down on those rocks and your in serious trouble. I have been saying it for years, I just don't get it.
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 I've always wondered about the elbow pads myself, why wouldn't you wear them on a track like that?
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 Because a lot of the time elbow pads are just really annoying and slip down.
What I can't believe is why he doesn't wear a neck brace and/or a back protector,when they've got all of these opportunities to get one.
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 Fuck that looked liked it hurt loads glad he is ok
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 I think Elite level Dh racing is just as dangerous as moto in some ways. If not more..... I hope this dude is ok!!..Kinda wish had not of seen it... Kinda like watching a drink driving police video to make you aware of the dangers of what your doing..but for downhill racing.
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 It's a UCi race so you can't make the juniors wear body armour and not the pro elites especially with Richie Rude being a Junior yet opting to race in the 19+ category (men) as that would be deemed to be unfair making one competitor wear something and not the other. Sorry to educate on UCI rules, boring I know but as a UCi race organiser I have to know these things. Si..
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 Well, that's a silly system then, isn't it? The UCI think it's unfair to make a rule protecting riders who are younger and potentially more fragile, as well as being less developed as riders skill- and experience-wise?

Thanks for the inside knowledge, Si.
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 Don't know why people are complaining of a 'video like this' Word is Tay is fine, beaten up and sore but fine. If he'd have been seriously hurt then yes, posting a vid is out of order. Biggest shocker of this vid is the time it takes medics to arrive.
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 if anyone has ever taken a first aid course, or even a paramedics course is you don't RUSH to the scene. If those medics ran all out and fell, then you have a few major problems. First step in this is to make sure the scene is safe, and that includes getting to the victim. Also you have to figure is where on the track were the medics?? What gets to me is, many witness i am sure 1 or a few have had first aid training and what is the very first thing you do if you see someone with a possible back injury. Spinal mobilization, stop that kid from rolling around. If he had back injuries, he could have make it worse.
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 @knobzy Just correcting a small typo. It's IMMOBILIZATION. Some folks might get confused.
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 thanks bud.
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 Hope this is true and he heals well , rode on an uplift at cwmcarn with him and he's a speed demon but nice little guy with it , heal well l
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 I was talking to a fellow rider who came off doing over 60k/h knocked himself out for several minutes, broke his back in 2 places. After a month in hospital he is out and walking around and back working on bikes. I don't know what condition Taylor is in but I hope he too will be back on his feet working on bikes until he is able to get back in the saddle. God's Speed Taylor.
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 I swear to you all, he is one of the nicest guys out there. He's only young and he took time out of his day last weekend to chat to me and the Wife & kids. There's a misconception out there about nice guys not being so tough. If Taylor really has walked away from this the he completely proves it to be false. MASSIVE healing vibes to you Taylor, you're a top fella and tough as foook !!!!
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 ..........As someone who's had C-Spine surgery, that just makes me shudder... Best of Luck to Taylor and hope he heals up quickly.
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 Yo nasty fall dude glad it wasn't a brutal one, hope you get well quick. Get those flats back on soldier! I don't see them being any use for time they just seem to mess you up more when you tumble. Good luck man Smile
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 I pray something like this doesnt happen to myself or anyone but a back protector and neck brace are still out of reach for me even though i work 12 hours a week on good money and i get discount. A friend of my girlfriends brothers has just paralysed himself from the waist down and punctured a lung... just goes to show. Get well soon Taylor
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 12 hours a week is not very much, bro
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 Sorry forgot to say im 18 and in school. I still earn more than most people my age who are working more hours
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 Using spd pedals instead of platforms ends like this... Watch it in slow motion his back was extremely twisted 2-3 times before he hit the ground with spinal cord. I hope next time he will rethink better safe the sorry and start using armor with log turtle...
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 Makes you wonder when you see how slow the medics react this is supposed to be a professional sport whats it going to take for them to get proper medical support on tracks like this I understand the medics cant be everywhere on track at any given time but they could at least have first aid trained marshals and that could respond at the scene of an accident. After what CG said last year as well you would have thought the UCI would have woken up and made changes. I really hope the UCI improve things before someone ends up seriously injured or worse. I agree with others as well that the young riders should be wearing safety gear mandatory if they then choose they dont want to wear it when older so be it thats there decision this could have been a lot worse GET WELL SOON TAYLOR.
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 They have paramedics stationed at points considered dangerous throughout the course. Unless the line the entire course with paramedics, there is always going to be time required to run up or down to the site of the crash, i don't really see how this could be avoided.
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 What do you consider "First aid"? Here in Canada first aiders have zero power and about 8 hours of training (at least BC and AB, it differs by province). They cannot deploy a c-collar or spine board and have no concept of c-spine control. So even if marshals are FA trained here, they can't do anything for the injured rider except attempt to comfort them and get information. Only our medic levels can legally do what needs to be done.
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 Well my point was supposed to be that maybe they should have first aid trained marshalls who can respond when a rider is down even if all they are doing is comforting arider and advising him not to move etc especially if there screaming about there back for me watching this vid there seemed to be too many people just stood around watching maybe this is because they don't feel they have enough training to respond when something like this happens . Dthomp325 I understand what your saying and I said in my post I understand there cant be medics everywhere and there will be a reaction time after an incident . I can't help thinking if this was the bds the rider wouldn't have been unattended for that long . Maybe first aid kits at certain points should be considered as well if that already doesn't happen . Its hard to know exactly what measures the uci or the promoter take wheniit comes to first aid I wish they were more transparent about this .
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 They only took about a minute. If he had broken his back what difference is that going to make anyway?
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 I don't think you understand my point. You're saying first aid but expecting ambulance level care. What good does a little first aid kit do? Bandages and ointment do not treat emergencies and they would do nothing for a rider in his situation. The people that got to him first are acting as first aid... comforting him and talking to him. Notice the kneeling down beside him, placing a hand on him, getting his name, how hes feeling, etc... That's first aid right there.

You cannot expect every course marshal to have first responder training with a trauma bag, oxygen, a scoop, and a board every 10m down the course... it'll never happen. When we do motoX, there's 2 to 6 of us using sidexside ATVs, we get a call on the radio and we peel out towards the incident. There isn't someone along the track at all times, we have a staging area where our trucks are parked and we work from there. Even in professional motosports, you'll never see instant response. The response time of the race medics in that video was quite good.
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 All the points you mentioned are correct no where did I mention they should be carrying all that gear and be trained to that extent all I would have wanted to see is someone get over to him a bit faster I just felt he was left for too long . I appreciate your comment but that's not what I meant .
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 I fractured my back at a local DH race. Guess what ... I was wearing a back protector. Your not invincible wearing one. Hope the lad is back shredding soon
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 And this is exactly why DHers should wear body armor! -_-
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 body armor helps with bruising and helps prevents some movement, but when you are going that fast and crash that hard, you could be wrapped in bubble wrap and still get hurt
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 but less hurt
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 I ride with (great for testing boundaries) and without extra armor. one thing nobody brings into account is the fact that you are less nimble wearing it. In some cases it can stop you recovering from a slip up and cause what might have been corrected to develop into a crash
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 I hardly ever fall without pads on. Mandated back protectors would mark the end of the growth of Dh racing.
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 That´s such a scary moment. Both when it happens to yourself or to someone else, hope he´s allright.
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 Well the medics seemed in a rush.. Blank Stare healing vibes dude!
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 Like someone said, I almost wish I hadn't watched it, and I'm definitely glad I couldn't hear it. I really hope he's okay. To take a positive from it, I now won't be ditching my back protector in France this year no matter how uncomfortable and hot it gets. Get well soon Vernon!
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 He is young so will bounce back.... Nasty though... Hope he is okay for next race...
But come on; not wearing any armour because it " Not rad" or "cool"..... Broken bones or at worst losing the use of your limbs.... That's not cool..... At that level it's not like they can't use the best available to them..... And for free....

There should be a minimum requirement, at that level.... Have you seen how fast they go...... Back knees and the old noggin min.... Maybe neck too.... Not going to push that one as I'm guilty for not wearing a neck brace.... But hey I'm not going down tracks like a f-in ping pong ball.... GWS TV
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 That looked like a bad crash. I hope he was ok though... So far, back reading form the comments, I see a lot of whining about safety and sh**, about protection being mandatory and blah blah blah... Except for the Juniors, these guys are pros and they have sponsors, all equipment are there, its up to them to use it or not. They are adults and they know the consequences, when they get on their bikes on every single race. We all know what the implications are when we push ourselves to the limit...So if you pansy ass*s want safe, then I guess you're in the wrong discipline. It takes balls to go pro or serious with this riding style, so for those who are missing a pair, better go ride a carousel instead...Jeez...It's like taking up mixed martial arts then whining when you get kicked in the face, why not play chess instead???? I'm not ranting about how the rider was screaming my back! my back! I bet it hurt a lot that's why he screamed...I'm talking about all the other mates here lecturing about safe and debating about what's safe and what's not.
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 After the awards I saw Vernon walking, slowly back to team site, but stands on legs with no external help. He seems quite OK for the kind of crash done . I thought he's Young, elastic, well trained...and terribly lucky. Spine protector must be a need as helmet Val Di Sole is brutal , wild and vert, I raced on the track lot of times in the past, and front flip like are fairly common, I've done a couple...and spine saved me.
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 We can sit hear and bitch and moan about who's got the best idea about protection, wear a neckbrace or a back plate etc at the end of the day we all go out with a helmet and knee pads most of us and the rest it's just what ever gives you that confidence in your ability as a rider. And the pros are the same I saw a few guys at VDS with neckbraces and most without. It makes no difference if its made compulsory or not if your gonna crash yor gonna crash. If like freestyle motoX it takes a death to change the sport then it's a sad day for us all. But I'm fairly confident it won't come to that most riders know their limits.
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 O.K. so you post a video. Say he's o.k. But don't really give any friggin information?

That was a hell of a fall. Looks like he came down on the back of his head on a stump. Lucky he didn't break his neck or back if indeed neither did happen.

Folks definition of o.k. can be different. Woulda taken about 10 seconds to give more information. Thanks.
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 Agree with onandoff. Looks more like an Lspine hyper extension injury as opposed to blunt/penetrating trauma. Nothing except couch surfing prevents that... Back pro still worthwhile though not a panacea.
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 I'm an advocate of pro-choice. Wear what makes you feel comfortable but don't impose your views on my riding.

Motocross has less restrictions then what a lot of you are implying should be applied to DH... How does that make any sense?

Not to mention this sport is expensive enough - of course companies are going to push for mandatory equipment because guess what - they get paid even more.

Honestly - any style of biking is dangerous and DH is very extreme so, again, wear what makes YOU feel comfortable but don't impose outrageous restrictions on OTHER riders. They can make the choice to wear any protection they want and you can bet every rider going down a DH course knows the impending danger they're facing.


IT'S AN EXTREME SPORT - GET OVER IT

The fault lies on the parents for not forcing their CHILD to wear adequate protection after signing a waiver that nullifies the course of any repercussions/responsibility if their CHILD crashes and DIES or is seriously injured...

If you don't want your kid getting hurt don't sign the f*cking waiver..
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 Unbelievable how many people only staying arround, holding their hand before their mouth and do nothing.... Thumbs up for the guy running uphill to help the rider!
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 That was horrible listen to, poor little fucker. Get well soon lad.
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 Back protector? Go to the bike park, the latest trend is a neck brace and nothing else. A parent will buy a ripper a expensive bike and let them do big stuff without proper protection.
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 Now that tracks are more gnarlyer and brutal we see pilots wearing only knee pads..wtf happen to body armors and gloves?Fashion can be your enemy,get well soon mate.
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 Horrendous, get well soon Taylor!!!! These men push the limits every day, the word sportsman bareley scratches the surface!
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 Mother of god. O.O
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 From a guy that has broken a vertibrae not alot can be done to prevent this type of thing. Accidents do happen. I hope he only strained it and nothing more major. Heal fast Dude!
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 Makes you stop and think for a minute but if your gonna crash your gonna crash, simple as that!! Taylor is an awesome rider though, get well soon buddy Smile
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 Geez man!!!!!! those screams gave me the chills . Wow. i really hope isnt hurt to bad.I wish the best of luck an recovery for taylor!
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 It's better to crash 100 times with protection, than one crash without. I hope he learned his lesson, cause it'd be a shame if he didn't
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 Most agonizing scream I've ever heard. A 200$ back protector and a 300$ leatt are cheaper than any trip to the hospital.
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 Guy in the yellow: "Mind if I take this?"
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 really not a place to lough but i noticed that too, lol!
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 And that's why I always wear full body armour+neck brace.

The moans are really really scary, I hate to see a rider moaning in pain, it is horrible. I hope he get well soon.
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 Holy God that was horrific! It looked like his bike was trying to kill him, spinning slams over and over. Heal fast, body and mind!
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 and next point - good for him to see so many positive "get well"-wishes.
Get well from me too, Taylor - that was a hard crash :-/
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 lots of pro not riding a back protector, seeing this it should be oblige to rule a longer back protector with the BACK PROTECTION CE-EN1621-2 Approved
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 It scared the crap out of me, poor kid. Thank god his ok now
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 Shit that was nasty..sounded horrible too. Glad he is well thank f*ck
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 jesus, get well buddy glad to hear evreything is ok
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 And that guy in the red nicked his bike ... Val Di Role
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 The good old czechs to the rescue!
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 i was watching this section, knowing if someone went down it would of been a bad one
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 Man that was gnarly! I always fear crashes like this when I ride... Best of luck to him in his recovery!
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 if the doctors have same passion as the MTBikers, they will more tempestive!
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 fecking crashed that was! you can tell the pros and newbies when they come out of bike.hope is ok! get well soon mate!
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 i wonder what defines "he's ok", seems to me like that's a definite broken back + year long recovery. I don't knoiw if that is ok, get well soon :/
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 to be honest, i wish i hadn´t clicked.. get well soon dude !!
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 You really forgot how dangerous it is when u watch hour after hour of perfect runs performed by the surgeon like pros..
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 HE WAS FINE AFTER SAW HIM WALKING ABOUT THE BOTTOM OF TRACK DONT WORRY PEOPLE..
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 Well I think that left a mark
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 That was a brutal tumble
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 also neck brace would be great... that crash is horrible, glad he is ok....
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 Wow that was a digger. Glad hes ok
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 Made me go all funny coz im still slowly recovering from something like that get well soon dude
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 When you hear a guys voice break when he goes down , you know it's serious !
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 I totally agree that none of us needed to see this. If Taylor put it out as a warning or for some kind of gratification then fair enough but just for the viewing purposes then I don't think we need to see this.
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 Dude I still can't recover from the video. I've seen plenty of crash videos, but F**K. Rather not.
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 Frack that clipped in 5h1t!
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 If he's smart he will be wearing a neck brace and back protection when he races on a course as brutal as Val Di Sole!
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 This stops you breathing for a while...
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 man i hate to see people go down
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 ya dancer, think ill be wearing my full body suit and a neckbrace from now on
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 Get Well soon brother and keep riding!!
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 BALKANCI,IMA NAS SVUDA KUMEEEE
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 Heal up man, listen to your docs and heal up proper. Injury sucks.
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 nothing worse than seeing a rider slam that hard
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 owww i really hope you get better soon that really must have hurt
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 We're all with you brother VERNON rest easy come back SWINGING !!!
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 That was brutal. Stay strong Taylor. Heal up and never look back.
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 O Man, Poor guy!!! Heal Quickly!
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 hope he was alright he should off wore a neckbrace
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 Jesus that sent chills throughout my entire body. Hope he recovers fast
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 Get Better soon Smile
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 Taylor for the win at Andorra! He deserves it! Get better soon! Big Grin
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 get welland very glad to hear that evreything is ok
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 That was so bad to see, and hear.. Get well soon Dude
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 hope he get's better soon, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger ;-))
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 The commentary is awesome if you understand it
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 What are they saying?
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 I can't watch these crash things.
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 Stay strong Taylor.
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 Tuck and roll. We all fall. good recovery Bro dont stop riding!
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 Now I am scared to ride my bike..Hope he is ok,it was horrible crash !
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 What the FUUUUUCK.
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