First Look: DVO Suspension, Tioga Spyder Stratum Seat, Duro Switch Tire - Taipei Show

Mar 22, 2013 at 12:00
Mar 22, 2013
by Mike Levy  
 
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DVO Suspension
DVO had a near constant crowd of gawkers in front of their booth thanks to their Emerald DH fork being fitted to an absolutely stunning Santa Cruz V10 with matching green decals. This is one of the few assembled prototypes in existence (although that will change in the near future as DVO ramps up production), giving us the chance to play with its interesting adjustable negative spring system. Why would a rider want an adjustable negative spring? DVO's thinking is that heavier riders who need to run a high spring rate shouldn't have to give up that initial suppleness that is inherent with a softer setup or, on the other end of the spectrum, that a racer on a smoother, fast course (think Sea Otter) might want a slightly stiffer top-end to aid in pedalling. It works via a dial atop the left fork leg that is attached to a threaded rod running down through the center of the fork's negative coil spring - turning the dial adds or subtracts preload to the spring to adjust the fork's initial bump sensitivity.

The collet upper tube clamps that DVO had been experimenting with aren't used on the prototype fork pictured here due to some clamping issues. No, it isn't that the system can't clamp hard enough, but that they are actually capable of squeezing down much harder than required. DVO is still tinkering with the concept, though, and we may see it in the future.


DVO Jade

DVO Jade Shock
DVO also had their Jade shock on hand, with one bolted to the same V10 and another on display for people to fiddle with. Dials for low and high-speed compression can be found on the piggyback bridge, and further tuning is possible by removing the one-piece compression unit in order to alter the shim stack makeup. Both piggyback air pressure and air volume will be adjustable via a large green dial and an air valve at the end of the piggyback itself, while the low-speed rebound dial is found in its usual home at the other end of the shock. While the very large majority of shocks use an IFP (an internal floating piston within the piggyback that moves to compensate for oil displacement as the shaft travels in and out of the shock body), DVO has instead gone with a rubber bladder setup on the Jade. Their reasoning is that an IFP requires a seal, usually just an O-ring, to keep the oil on one side and the air on the other from mixing, and that seal adds friction to the system. A bladder, on the other hand, simply compresses to accomplish the same thing. The concept isn't new - it is used in the moto world - but it is rare to see on a mountain bike shock.

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www.dvosuspension.com



Tioga Spider Stradum saddle

Tioga Spyder Stratum Seat
With its unique webbed shell that is said to flex enough to replace the need for padding, Tioga's Spyder certainly stands out from the crowd. We've always had a thing for its futuristic look, but Tioga has been pretty clear in the past about it being intended purely for use on the road. The original Spyder's webbed shell flexed for comfort, but it meant that a hard crash could stress it beyond what it was intended for, and the burlier 'D Spyder' that was built for off-road use is stiff enough that it put strength ahead of comfort in our books. It looks like this new version of the design, the Spyder Stratum, will be ready for prime time on our mountain bikes, though. So what's different? Tioga has gone with a dual-material shell and a different webbing layout, with the stiffer material underneath a softer and more forgiving top. Word is that this combination allows for enough flex in the shell for comfort while being more than resilient enough for serious off-road use. The prototype pictured above could vary a bit from what we might see come production, but the carbon-railed saddle that we shot weighed in at just 114 grams.

www.tiogausa.com




Duro Switch 29er Tire
650B may have replaced the bigger wheel size when it comes to heated forum battles about the so-called demise of the 26'' wheel, but there are plenty of large 29er tire options to choose from these days. While not a new model, Duro's Switch doesn't get the press that more familiar brands do, which is a shame because it looks ready for action. The 29 x 2.35'' tire features prominent braking edges across the crown, and a round profile that looks like it would make for a predictable ride.



www.durotire.com
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105 Comments

  • + 105
 Get ready to have muddy spiderweb stencil on your butt!
  • + 53
 Would probably look better than the usual mega spray that looks like you didn't make it to the trailhead latreen in time lol
  • + 20
 i thought it was a lacross stick ha ha
  • + 4
 Yeah I don't know if my coach would be too happy to see that thing duct tapped to my long stick at the next game
  • + 1
 Nice saddle, comfy. But I had an alloy railed one break on me.
  • + 1
 Looks like a cheese grater.
  • + 2
 wow no hulk jokes that's a first
  • + 4
 Looks like the fork the hulk would be using
  • + 1
 theres always one haha
  • + 1
 I always think it looks like the Tioga "Nad grabber 3000" but enough people use them without uncomfortable testicular pinching.
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  • + 61
 I have no idea if their products are actually going to be any good, but DVO's marketing team has certainly earned their paychecks. They've managed to create a hell of alot of hype without providing the general public or media any actual product for testing.
  • + 13
 I was thinking the same haha it looks high quality though
  • + 11
 Yea definitely. I'm not knocking it. I'm not much of a fan of all the green but the stuff looks pretty nice.
  • + 1
 They don't generate the hype, internet inhabitants do by waiting for upside down fork that will save the world. This one, new look at the old case in hope to finaly make it (nobody knows what). Whoever delivers whatever in USD fork department gets huge props. It makes little sense but at least we get a true diversity of choice
  • + 4
 I don't know. I dig the green. Won't match every color scheme, but it does look pretty. They'll have a black version too for those concerned with the color though.
  • + 2
 Could be an Evil bikes problem all over again
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 Yea I've read they will make the stuff in more neutral colors, which lets be honest they have too. I mean performance SHOULD be the determining factor but man it would be hard to sell me that fork if I had say a red frame, no matter how well it performs. I don't think it could ever be that much better than a 40, boxxer, or 888 to make me run that color combo.
  • + 2
 They're running a stealth black as well as the green when it goes to production
  • + 1
 Yeah, but the black has green on it as well. Kinda ruins the idea of delivering another color option as the murdered-out version will again be no good with let's say a red bike...
  • + 2
 if they can get it on the wc scene and have a few wc riders backing it then they will have no problem selling the fork
  • + 9
 Really guys, the color? Do you really think DVO would be so stupid as to put all their eggs in one green basket?
  • + 1
 sino428, Red and Green, very christmas.haha
  • + 1
 i wonder if that machining on the piggy back are fins for heat transfer
  • + 1
 There isnt an issue with the colour I know loads of riders who get custom fox or rockshox graphics to match there bike thats all people will do with the DVO decals or simply take them off.
  • + 2
 all i know is green would look great on my carbon operator
  • + 1
 I'd be down for blue, or one "lower" blue with the other one black or red
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  • + 12
 Thank you everyone for the great comments on the emerald and jade! There is for sure an all black emerald (in the background) coming as well. check our Facebook page for a ton of pictures on the new products. Thanks everyone
  • + 2
 Are the decals on the all black one going to loose the green from them and just be black, silver and white?
The controls knobs, which are green, are fine as that's no different than the blue, red or gold ones out there.
It would be nice to have a decal without the green on it for all color bikes.

Unfortunately no new green decal V10 frames are in my future so green is out of the question.
But if there was... I'd run the green tubes all day long.
  • + 2
 Personal opinion - the green version looks better than the murdered-out one. however, producing different-colored stickers for the black version would be nice - please think about it! Smile
  • + 1
 Not going to lie, I like the more "rough" look of the jade. It's simple, and if it that bladder performs well and the reviews are good I'm all over that. I imagine it won't be cheap, or the fork either, but if it works well I'm more than happy to support a new suspension company.
  • + 3
 Really guys, the color? Do you really think DVO would be so stupid as to put all their eggs in one green basket?
  • + 1
 Maybe I'm biased because I have the same colour V10 but I love the colour. However, I'm much more interested in feeling what a bladder can do to a shock and an adjustable negative spring can do to a fork. My most loved forks of the past were shivers and I am having a hard time waiting for these to get bolted on my bike. Thankfully it's still snowing in whistler so patience is a little easier to manage right now.
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  • + 9
 It seems as though now is the time to produce new suspension...Marzo has made changes, rock shox is bringin new, and DVO, and even Suntour are all releasing new suspension. I think that the top two are gonna be seeing some sort of hit because of this. However, I like it no matter what anyone says Big Grin choices are good!
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  • + 8
 I really like the sound of that shock... hope its affordable. It seems a few companies are adopting moto tech for suspension now..so it's great to see another contender
  • + 1
 Affordable? I doubt it! DVO's plan is to start at the high end market and work there way down. Maybe in a few years though the trickle down effect will let us poorer folk be able to plug one in! I damn well hope so!
  • + 4
 Think it's supposed to be priced comparatively to other high end forks, like 40, Boxxer WC, etc. we'll see when it finally comes out. I could never afford a brand new fork anyway. Definitely intrigued though, can't wait to hear some honest reviews when they both come out.
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  • + 4
 Interesting fork! Looks like the legendary Shiver 'can I get a hell yea from old guys?' I wonder if that arch is anything or if its just part of the fender guard? If not, that might be the fix to the shivers 'Oh I have flex if I put my tire between two trees and twist' complain!
  • + 11
 Hell ya I'm rocking my 01 Shiver for the 2013 NW Cup on a 2013 Entourage!
  • + 4
 Yep, its a carbon fiber arch that is mounted to each lower in a sturdy enough way so as to increase stiffness. There are several articles out there about. YOu should look them up. My next bigbike fork for sure.
  • + 4
 Read this article: www.pinkbike.com/news/dvo-emerald-first-look-2012.html
They claim a 50% bump in torsional rigidity from the arch.
  • - 9
 50% gain in torsional rigidity , but -127.5% in looks.
  • + 1
 How does that carbon arch make it 50% stiffer?! It appears to be connected only by 4 tiny screws... at the very BOTTOM of the fork.
  • + 1
 They dont look tiny to me. Carbons stiff so it would add some rigidity for sure.
  • + 1
 When I rode the 03 and 04 shivers I had. I very rarely noticed the flex if at all. Just the weight. As we've gone stiffer in every other department, we are now going to carbon frames and doing 'flex tuning' so its an interesting paradox to me! Not sure if the eight screws '4 per side' screws will be enough though 'with what I know about carbon' but heres hopin!
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  • + 2
 Glad DVO dumped the collets and uses screw clamps. Looks clean and purposeful this way. Definitely wanna try them. Green for sake of beeing different? Bit hard on the eyes. Rearshock lookin good. Tioga seat - looks great - using a similar webbed plastic saddle. Actually comfy - till your sore.
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  • + 2
 It is just annoying that erverybody talks about the DVO for months and months and there is still no proof that the fork or the shock have ever been ridden... Too much marketing and too less facts in my opinion.
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 Hm... So the bushing offset on Emerald is the same as on standard forks, so the only way those guys compromise for reduced stiffness is tubing thickness... One must really believe that USD is a way to go for bicycles, and want it badly, without engine power to push that increased mass forward, and giro effect of rear wheel accelerating to control leaning in jumps...
  • + 1
 Where did you get the detail regarding bushing offset? I'd love to see some drawings or internals from this fork.
  • + 1
 There are bulges on the fork upper legs, where bushes sit.
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 " A bladder, on the other hand, simply compresses to accomplish the same thing. The concept isn't new - it is used in the moto world - but it is rare to see on a mountain bike shock. "

Avalanche has been using a bladder system for years.
  • + 1
 Yup, which is why I said it was rare instead of common.
  • + 1
 It wasn't a stab at you Mike.
  • + 1
 I know, didn't mean to sound snappy. I guess those annoying emoticons can come in handy sometimes haha
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 No worries
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  • + 3
 New suspension company hopefully revolutionising the market...busting the big brands balls and giving us sick products.... Pinkbike users' first concern... colourways :/
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  • + 3
 The arch works. I personally saw a "test of concept" and I was amazed! DVO will change the way you think about premium suspension.
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  • + 4
 please tell us the price of the Emerald fork...
  • + 29
 if you have to ask, you can't afford it....
  • + 1
 MSRP : "Enough to pay ourselves"
  • + 18
 "If you have to ask, you can't afford it...."

Sounds like a Rock Shox marketing slogan.
  • + 2
 I always got a laugh out of that expression. Even rich people should know what they're paying for something. If you don't ask/check what the price is when you buy something, you're just stupid, no matter how much money you have. "Oh, don't worry about it sir, yes, I just charged you $5,000 for that cup of coffee, but you don't need to know what it costs anyway. You have the money right?"
  • + 3
 PRICE is what you PAY- VALUE is what you GET.
  • + 3
 My guess will be around £1500 in UK and whatever a Fox 40 costs in $.
  • + 1
 the cost of an entire bike in a fork. 1700bux is stupid.
  • + 0
 You want the best, you pay for the best. Its really that simple.
  • + 3
 Whatever it is, most of us will be green with envy.
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  • + 4
 Yeah..DVO..again...only show and no go ...lets see what happens :/
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  • + 2
 Always been intrigued by the Tioga Spyder saddles but never picked one up. Think I will with this one though.
  • + 1
 use them on my BMX bikes and really like them
  • + 1
 i got a poivatal d spyder and its quite comfy to be honest
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  • - 1
 It is unreal how much i hate people saying 'demise of the 26'' wheel'. Lets be honest, 26'' is never going to be fully replaced, and as it is, almost wherever you go pretty much all the bikes will be 26''. 29'' and 27.5'' are just being forced upon people on pinkbike..
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  • + 2
 So DVO reinvented preload to work better, made a decent looking shock, and a saddle company made jelly shoes for your butt.
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  • + 3
 I'd love to see a photo of the DVO V10 in its entirety.
  • + 1
 Google Images for exactly 'DVO suspension test bike'.
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  • + 4
 What a sexy fork.
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  • + 3
 They say , they say , they say
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 You don't say?
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  • + 2
 I'm really looking forward to the release of DVOs kit. Patience. Just a little longer as they're coming!
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  • + 2
 i'd try out that fork and shock...
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  • + 1
 My God that green looks good. Glad they took the white off the fork. Lookn forward to seeing it in action/perform.
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  • + 1
 The more I look at that fork, the more excited I am to get one
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  • + 1
 D.V.O: Da Very Owesomest!
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  • + 1
 Shock looks nice , what's the price ??
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  • + 2
 Not more tires
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  • + 1
 I kinds want that seat for DJ cause it would be so light!
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  • + 1
 CEDRIC GRACIA and DVO SUSPENSION!!! There ya go!!
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  • + 1
 That v10 looks so awesome!
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  • + 1
 That green dvo needs to be darker
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  • + 1
 Those dvo forks look almost Irish or something !!! Like leprechaun legs
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 Well Duro at least knows how to make tires that are heavy and cheap. Once BIG-travel 29ers start showing up at walmart (don't laugh, Mongoose has a single-speed fatbike for $199 that's being sold there this year) then we'll see these tires on them probably.

Here in Canada, Walmart doesn't carry the good (for their company) bikes that the USA stores get, but we have Canadian tire stores which fill a similar roll, and for 2013 there are FIVE 29er models, and three of them have full suspension. If the frames were a bit nicer I'd be tempted to rebuild one as a project (with better components). A few years ago, Raleigh Canada was sharing frame sourcing with KHS (from Astro in Taiwan) and they had some nice frames with crap parts for $399 complete at Canadian tire. Canadian tire is already carrying no-model named Kenda made Kevlar foldable tires for $19.99 each. I haven't bought any to check weights or anything, but the 29 x 2.2 model is basically a Karma, and the 26 x 2.35s are Kinetics.
  • + 11
 Uh oh! Here comes the flood of anti cheap Walmart bike comments... Who will tune it up? My LBS won't work on it!!!! I have a $5000 specialized but don't know how to tune my kids wal mart bike!! Oh the humanity!!
  • + 1
 Yep, wouldn't be a Friday without comments like that.
  • + 2
 I just wanna point out that Duro doesn't just make heavy cheap tires. The Switch pictured above is a double ply kevlar beaded trail destroyer. I've got the 26x2.3 (single ply) on my enduro race bike and its every bit the dream tire. Its the same weight as the Maxxis Advantage I had on there before. They are easy on the wallet but not "cheap" in any way. I like them much more than my last choice. Duro is a force to be reckoned with in quality.
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  • + 1
 DVO hulk green nice
  • + 1
 moar hulk!!!
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 seat is hideous
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  • + 1
 hell the saddle too
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 Read on a couple forums that the msrp for the Emerald may be around $2300.....who knows
  • + 1
 Those are just stupid people spreading rumors, it's gonna be similarly priced to the boxxer WC and fox 40
  • + 1
 I figure the same, MBA also said $1,700 so.......
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 Thought/hoped it would be around the same price as a Fox 40 or a Boxxer worldcup..
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 Boggy snot colour ,give me fox anyday.
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 Looks like a session
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