Day Two Photos - Interbike 2012

Sep 20, 2012
by Ian Hylands
 
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While I was strolling around the show today recovering from last nights movie premier I kept an eye open for anything of interest. Here are a few of the things I saw.

Acros has a new AFlat pedal out this one is a little smaller and lighter than last years. It s also available in a Ti spindle version that weighs in around 292 grams
  Acros has a new AFlat pedal out, this one is a little smaller and lighter than last years. It's also available in a Ti spindle version that weighs in around 292 grams

Lupine Lights have a couple of trick new things. Firstly the power switch for the 3600 Lumen Betty R is now wireless so you can mount it anywhere with no wires and there is now a 900 Lumen Piko TL that is a perfect emergency light. It fits easily in a hydration pack and can be quickly mounted to the handlebars or used as a flashlight.
  Lupine Lights have a couple of trick new things. Firstly the power switch for the 3600 Lumen Betty R is now wireless, so you can mount it anywhere with no wires, and there is now a 900 Lumen Piko TL, that is a perfect emergency light. It fits easily in a hydration pack or even a pocket, and can be quickly and easily mounted to the handlebars or used as a flashlight.

Vaude have been in the pack making business for a good many years and they have a few new hydration offerings. The Tracer comes in 15 20 and 25 liter versions with a 2 liter reservoir and it has great storage and opens almost completely for easy access to all the contents of the main compartment.
  Vaude have been in the pack making business for a good many years, and they have a few new hydration offerings. The Tracer comes in 15, 20, and 25 liter versions with a 2 liter reservoir, and it has great storage and opens almost completely for easy access to all the contents of the main compartment.

I ran into the enduro racing duo of Dennis Yuroshek and Carolynn Romaine at the show today...
  I ran into the enduro racing duo of Dennis Yuroshek and Carolynn Romaine today...

Tyler from SDG showed me this sweet new saddle designed by Anka Martin.
  Tyler from SDG showed me this sweet new saddle designed by Anka Martin.

Hope have a new pedal as well as a new freehub body designed for SRAM s 11 speed cassette.
  Hope have a new pedal, as well as a new freehub body designed for SRAM's 11 speed cassette.

100 had some great goggles on display. They re worn on the World Cup circuit by riders such as Mick Hannah and Andrew Neethling and as well as great styling they have all the features you d expect in a top of the line goggle.
  100% had some great goggles on display. They're worn on the World Cup circuit by riders such as Mick Hannah and Andrew Neethling, and as well as great styling they have all the features you'd expect in a top of the line goggle.

The new 5.10 Freerider VXi features an entirely new Stealth Contact outsole.
  The new 5.10 Freerider VXi features an entirely new Stealth Contact outsole.

Formula have a new fork offering not really sure of the details but the compression and rebound controls look interesting.
  Formula have a new fork offering, not really sure of the details, but the compression and rebound controls look interesting.

Suntour had a full array of different damping cartridges on display.
  Suntour had a full array of different damping cartridges on display.

POC has a new half shell helmet the Crane which combines a light weight dual density foam liner with a sturdy puncture and impact resistant outer shell
  POC has a new half shell helmet the Crane, which combines a light weight dual density foam liner with a sturdy puncture and impact resistant outer shell

Projekt Roam s Colt and Jessee were at the show.
  Projekt Roam's Colt and Jessee were at the show, it was great to finally meet them in person.

a few of the Tequila s sampled at the annual Interbike Tequila event...
  a few of the Tequila's sampled at the annual Interbike Tequila event...

Richard Cunningham Lorna Schouten Joe Breeze and Colin Meagher hanging out at the show.
  Richard Cunningham, Lorna Schouten, Joe Murray, and Colin Meagher, hanging out at the show, and sipping tequila

One of our favorite media personalities Chipps Chippendale decided not to come to Interbike this year but he made it in spirit...
  One of our favorite media personalities Chipps Chippendale decided not to come to Interbike this year, but thankfully he made it in spirit...

117 Comments

  • + 62
flag coloradoboy (Sep 20, 2012 at 21:27)
 I read these articles to see what I will be riding 5 years from now :/
  • + 4
flag thinkbike (Sep 21, 2012 at 6:58)
 Who knew that we will all be riding 11 speed specific proprietary pedals? JK
  • + 18
flag TotesRidic (Sep 21, 2012 at 8:40)
 and wearing shoes with no grip..
  • + 9
flag Joezwls (Sep 21, 2012 at 8:47)
 Technically on a flat dry surface those shoe's will grip better than any with tread but I thought 5.10 used treaded soles to hook up on loose ground when you're walking and your pedal pins when you're riding, especially in the wet. puzzled me that one!
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flag TotesRidic (Sep 21, 2012 at 8:55)
 I get that they would grip better on a flat surface but what if that flat surface is covered in water, dirt or mud? I also feel like hiking anything in those would be difficult.
  • + 6
flag Ridexcfast99 (Sep 21, 2012 at 8:57)
 You'll lose a little bit of traction on loose stuff hiking, but trust me those shoes will be sticky as sh*t on flats!
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flag bigburd (Sep 21, 2012 at 9:16)
 They actually designed the new soles to be less grippy ,apparently people complained that it was hard to reposition your foot... I normally just time my foot repositioning with going over a bump or jump.... I hope they still offer them in the ' old ' tread pattern , there is no way I will be able to push up and hills this winter with the new ones.
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flag samminett (Sep 21, 2012 at 15:46)
 not to sure if 5.10 thorght about the wet weather riding, pushing up tracks...
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flag O1D4 (Sep 21, 2012 at 17:56)
 I talked to the 5.10 rep at crankworx and he said the VXi line of shoes is more for AM riders who want to be able to reposition their feet more easily. You'll still be able to get freeriders with the regular sole more suited for DH riding.
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flag samminett (Sep 22, 2012 at 16:23)
 hallelujah
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flag mblakely (Sep 20, 2012 at 21:52)
 You know it's going to be a lackluster interbike when Shimano's big news is hydrations packs, and glasses :/...however great blogs like PinkBike with outstanding coverage of EuroBike and InterBike makes my desire to go to Vegas nill. In the days of blogs, press camps, Sea Otter Interbike is pretty slow, with the exception of the Nora Cup.
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flag HandleOfScience (Sep 20, 2012 at 21:15)
 The 5.10s seem a bit counter intuitive and I think if it was anything but the 510 stealth rubber, it'd be a disaster -- but I find that the sole itself on 5.10s grips pedal pins better than the "tread" does. I think its a move in the right direction for grip on pedals... Grip on anything else, well, hard to say...
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flag Gruta (Sep 20, 2012 at 21:31)
 I bet you can do a bit a rock climbing with them, they also have a canyoning or canyoneering line of shoes, using pretty much the same stealth rubber.
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flag jaame (Sep 20, 2012 at 21:46)
 I think it might be good on rock, or until you put your foot down on something dirty or wet. Can't see how they have made production. I mean, I believe it will grip a pedal really well when both are clean and dry, but they're not are they? If it's bone dry on the ground, they'll grip the pedals but not the ground when you want to walk up a shit-steep section pushing the bike. If it's wet or muddy or roots, you're shit out of luck too. Honestly, when I ride I spend ten times as long pushing up as I do riding down. These will be shit for 90% of what I want them for.
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flag flamshmizer (Sep 20, 2012 at 21:53)
 Bald 5.10's are still better than other shoes with grip. These will be fine for those looking for those features in their shoes. They're R&D has done them pretty well so far...
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flag mmoon (Sep 20, 2012 at 21:54)
 Try them, then knock them. Or don't if you don't care enough. Seems a little odd to knock five ten for letting something go into production the moment you see one of their new products.
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flag jaame (Sep 20, 2012 at 21:59) (Below Threshold) show comment
 Not odd at all. Most people replace their shoes when the tread wears off. Don't you?

I'm sure these would be great street BMX shoes, or skateboard shoes. Off road MTB? Forget about it. 5.10 or not, I don't think they can be up to the job without tread on half of the sole.

Although, judging by your comments, maybe there will be a load of idiots willing to part with a stack of cheese for overpriced bald shoes ha ha!
  • + 6
flag makripper (Sep 20, 2012 at 22:00)
 i use my 5.10's for hiking and they kick ass in any condition. wet rocks, or dust. they are the best shoe i've ever had. and they grip to my pedals too btw.
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flag jaame (Sep 20, 2012 at 22:00) (Below Threshold) show comment
 Well shut my mouth.
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flag Rolas (Sep 20, 2012 at 22:12)
 i bet one day we'll see flat pedals completely without spikes and bald shoes. It's just a matter of nano technology and inovation, More surface means more grip - we learnt from mother nature. There is a lizard who climbs vertically with his small flat feet, and the reason is microscopic, just a tiny hairs, millions of them, they rapidly increase amount of surface he's touching the ground
  • + 19
flag loganjensen (Sep 20, 2012 at 22:18)
 my shins like your words
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flag sk8erstrt (Sep 20, 2012 at 22:33)
 makripper totally agree. 5.10 has been in the climbing world for a long time too and this is what rubber is used on their bike line. i'd be happy to buy to these grippy beasts, the bald is good
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flag Varaxis (Sep 20, 2012 at 22:39)
 >> "Most people replace their shoes when the tread wears off. Don't you?"

Midsoles wear out before the tread does on many shoes.
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flag manchicken (Sep 20, 2012 at 22:48)
 5.10 know what they're doing a bit better than us to be fair, and if it didn't work they wouldn't produce it, would they? Just saying
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flag Lehel-NS (Sep 20, 2012 at 23:15)
 ^ exactly. But looks like the average pinkbikers are smarter than the engineers at 5.10
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flag stevil-1 Plus (Sep 21, 2012 at 0:27)
 Yes I'm interested not to mention both my previous 510s wore holes on that same spot.
Rest of the shoes look mint. :/
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flag ferntreekid (Sep 21, 2012 at 3:31)
 I hiked 5 days/60km/3000+hm over the Tantra (ry) Mountains from Slovakia to Poland in a half dead pair of 5.10 spitfires, and even pretty worn they gripped on everything just as well as my girlfriends very expensive german hiking shoes (Lowa if there are any hikers around). I'd say give these new ones a try before you rag them out, 5.10 have been making exceptional outdoor shoes for a long time.
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flag togood2die (Sep 21, 2012 at 5:13)
 Yeah, there are other hikers around, and I would NEVER cross sports with my shoes... Maybe it's just me but...
I'd rather carry someone else's tent in my pack than wear MTB shoes, and there's one reason. Weight.
DON'T START, I know, some are lighter, but for the same high-end money that a "light" pair costs, I can get a badass pair of Lowa, Merrell, Teva (hiking sandals), etc, and be that much better off with a specialized and purpose driven tread design...
Just my 2c, but these shoes have a SPECIFIC purpose, and if I were to buy them, I would never use them for anything else!
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flag groghunter (Sep 21, 2012 at 7:51)
 or you can buy the Exum Guide, and have the best of both worlds: fiveten.com/products/footwear-detail/45-exum-guide-twilight
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flag Jacker123 (Sep 21, 2012 at 9:24)
 5.10 actually started off as a rock climbing shoe company and then branched into mtb....
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flag smike (Sep 21, 2012 at 10:14)
 A smooth sole will mean a better interface with your pedal. It's not the tread that hooks up with your pedals spikes. It's the rubber. And it doesn't matter if your pedals are wet or muddy. The spikes will still grip this sole. The only issue I foresee is if you're off the bike, as the "original" sole was already not that great for hike-a-bike traction in some conditions (i.e. muddy). The tread pattern is irrelevant when it comes to wear - on my climbing shoes, I replace them when holes appear through the rubber. And there's no tread on climbing shoes.
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flag iamamodel (Sep 21, 2012 at 14:16)
 It seems that everyone who is/was a rock climber looks at the smooth sole and says "That makes sense", whereas the rest of you all think that the pattern of the sole matters. As Smike correctly states above, the rubber is key.

Imagine wearing a set of football boots on rock - they LOOK like they'd grip, but they'd slide off in a second because they do not conform to the surface.

Walking up a muddy hill would be about the only time these 5.10 sucked (and that's when you'd want your football boots on).
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flag bigburd (Sep 22, 2012 at 3:26)
 I'm not worried about the grip on the pedals , more the grip on the muddy ground when pushing back up , that is where tread becomes important.
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flag smike (Sep 22, 2012 at 4:39)
 Seriously? I'd much rather slip on the ground than on my pedals. Plus, if you have a lift, you don't have to worry about pushing up anyway. And there are other options if you spend a lot of time pushing.
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flag bigburd (Sep 22, 2012 at 10:04)
 You do realise these are BOTH less grippy on pedals and ground right ?
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flag smike (Sep 22, 2012 at 11:27)
 Actually this whole discussion is about how they will be more grippy on pedals. Read the comments above.
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flag bigburd (Sep 22, 2012 at 13:23)
 But they are wrong , 5-10 said them selfs they have made them LESS grippy on PURPOSE by using SMOOTH soles to make it easyer to adjust your foot with out lifting it from the pedals..
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flag makripper (Sep 22, 2012 at 16:16)
 sheesh you are dumb. put a shoes, that has a flat surface on the bottom of it on a pedal, how much contact area? put a shoe like the 5.10 impact with multiple protrustions sticking out, less surface area. figure it out!!!!!
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flag togood2die (Sep 22, 2012 at 18:25)
 See, I've dipped my bill into every sport we're referencing here, and my only point was that I would never cross disciplines with my shoes. I completely agree that the partial flat sole will work, and work well... Can't wait to see them in person!
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flag makripper (Sep 22, 2012 at 18:40)
 i know what your saying togood2die. if you have the extra money, get specific shoes for hiking only. but if your hike a biking, it doesnt make sense.
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flag flamshmizer (Sep 22, 2012 at 18:44)
 I just want 5-10 to make tyres, they would then get all my money.
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flag bigburd (Sep 23, 2012 at 2:22)
 This is my last comment on this subject... you obviously missed the press release info on the new 5-10 sole design , they said them selfs they have intentionally made them SLIGHTLY LESS GRIPPY by making the soles SMOOTH because some riders found them TOO grippy so this is the solution they come up with. You see with the soles having a treaded design you kind of ' lock ' against the treads making it harder to readjust your foot , to combat this they made the soles smooth so that you no longer get this locked feeling on the treads. Your opinions on a totally smooth sole being more grippy are totally invalid when 5-10 said they have designed them to be LESS grippy , I can find the press release info if you want .
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flag bigburd (Sep 23, 2012 at 2:30)
 dirt.mpora.com/news/eurobike-2012-five-ten.html

Scroll and read

" As you can see the majority of the pedal interface area has now been made completely flat. This is to alleviate the old ‘so sticky you can’t move your foot’ feeling that some riders don’t like. Five Ten reckon the overall grip on the pedal is almost as good as the original design, yet you can change the position of your foot without having to lift it off the pedal. Only time will tell if that really is the case, but if it is then we wouldn’t be surprised if this becomes an option on the Impacts. "
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flag jaame (Sep 23, 2012 at 2:51)
 Obviously to anyone of average intelligence, it doesn't matter what kind of rubber the tread is made of if you are walking up something wet and slippery. These shoes are not going to grip mud, wet grass, wet roots, wet rock with mud on top, wet rock with moss or algae on top, etc.

5.10 have done their homework alright - all you have to do to sell a shitload of overpriced shoes is

1. make them look cool
2. write 5.10 on them
3. tell everyone they are really good

and hey presto! Instant sales.

You are all welcome to buy these shoes and find out for yourself how ineffective they are at gripping anything other than pedals or bone dry rock/street.
You are all welcome to give me negative props for disagreeing with you. But please don't. It's not very mature.
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flag bigburd (Sep 23, 2012 at 4:54)
 Have you ridden in 5 -10s before dude ?

They are litterally the best shoes for flat pedals out there by a long shot.

Sure you can ride in skate shoes , but the difference is night and day.

And yes I agree even the ones with tread are awfull at gripping anything but pedal pins , the amount of times I have slipped over in them pushing up slippery banks is unreal , but the grip n the pedals more than makes up for it.

And yeah they are overpriced ( what in mountain biking is not ? ) but they do last very well and grip like nothing else.

And nah , I won't neg prob ya I only neg prop people that resort to being offensive to make thier shallow points.
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flag jaame (Sep 23, 2012 at 21:28)
 I have never ridden in 5.10s, and I am not disputing that they grip pedals really well. I am saying that for every hour I spend biking, I probably spend 50 minutes walking up and 10 minutes riding down. I therefore need a shoe that can help me with the 50 minutes as much as the ten, and bald shoes are not it, regardless of how good they are at the ten. I'm not saying 5.10 are shit. I have some 5.10 rock boots which I think are pretty unreal. What I am saying is that these bald 5.10s are not suitable for the kind of riding I do, and I believe not suitable for the majority of MTBers, because I am an average MTBer. Also, I have a mate who is sponsored by 5.10, and he told me they are streets ahead of anything else, almost like being clipped in on flat pedals. Hard to believe but I trust him. That same friend rides in Adidas fashion-skate shoes a lot of the time though. Actions speak louder than words.
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flag makripper (Sep 23, 2012 at 22:13)
 try them before you knock the jaame.. I lived on vancouver island for 3 years, it's wet and slippery, with tonnes of roots and rocks. these shoes held up to all of that and they became my hiking shoes as well because of the amazing grip!! then out here in penticton, its sandy and slippery in lots of parts. Do you know ANY shoe that is good in sand? I didn't think so! Also, they kick ass on the pedals. I dont use clips on my xc bike because i dont need to! and that includes 105km round trip xc rides. I've had this one pair of 5.10's for 2 years and have had not one issue with them. I also ride DH with them and they are amazing!! you can whine and moan all you want, but i'll use what works for me. have a nice time complaining about shoes you have never used. People like you are what clog forums with useless untrue facts and garbage in general. Take care!
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flag jaame (Sep 24, 2012 at 21:27)
 As I say, if you want to spend a load of money on bald shoes go ahead. More fool you for believing the hype.
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flag makripper (Sep 25, 2012 at 7:52)
 what hype? they actually work amazingly well. don't believe the hype of the automobile or the airplane, they're just trendy and all hype. Basketball will never catch on as a sport, why would you want to ride downhill on a mountain bike? mountain bike? why would you want to ride a bike in the mountains. get your head out of your a$$!!
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flag Varaxis (Oct 1, 2012 at 15:34)
 >> I just want 5-10 to make tyres, they would then get all my money.

5.10 would have to ask how rich are ya and take your statement literally...

Did you know that the Stealth S1 sole, which they use on their mtn bike shoe line-up, uses a rubber compound that's harder and less grippy than a vast majority of performance mtn bike tires? You should be able to sense it quite clearly, if you put your actual hands on both. I honestly believe my high end road running shoes may have a better rubber compound than S1, and it better have! The Stealth C4 sole, found on their climbing shoes, is a different story though, as that would compare better to some sticky DH tires.

I use FiveTens and I do believe that people hype up the sole a bit much, but it's not only the sole that makes FiveTens good. Their fit and comfort is really good and they just work well. I used to use my running shoes, but the sole wasn't thick enough to absorb shock and prevent the feel of the pedal pins digging in and didn't offer enough ankle support. I tried skate shoes and those were even worse. FiveTens are expensive. I wouldn't buy them unless they were 50% off, since I believe they're not really worth more than $80 USD, but I have no prob spending $80+ USD for good running shoes. Some people spend far more on clipless compatible shoes and I can't stand hiking or walking around in those.
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flag jaame (Oct 1, 2012 at 22:00)
 Varaxis. Finally someone talking sense!
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flag jimferno (Sep 21, 2012 at 3:33)
 These Hope pedals have been doing the rounds for a bit now but I'm much more interested in their 6 speed DH freehub/cassette! C'mon pull your fingers out and get these products in the shops!
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flag poweredbypies (Sep 22, 2012 at 12:00)
 Why? Just make up a 6 speed group of sprockets and limit your mech. Not really DH specific either.
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flag jimferno (Sep 23, 2012 at 1:48)
 It has a 9t cog, allowing you to run a smaller chainring for more clearance but without sacrificing your top speed. Ideally suited for modern DH bikes with low bottom brackets. So yeah, really would be DH specific.... pleb.
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flag groghunter (Sep 23, 2012 at 9:17)
 If you don't care about brands, Canfield Bros have DH specific Capreo hubs right now.
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flag jimferno (Sep 23, 2012 at 9:26)
 I looked at them a bit back but couldn't actually find any to order online, I'd happily go for a Canfield hub.
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flag groghunter (Sep 23, 2012 at 13:38)
 I think you have to order directly from their website: www.canfieldbrothers.com/components/9-tooth-rear-hub They don't sell through any of the internet sites I know of.
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flag poweredbypies (Sep 23, 2012 at 14:39)
 Oh as if i didnt know that. I was on about 6 speed. Thanks for the info mr.pleb.
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flag jaame (Sep 23, 2012 at 21:36)
 I think 9t sprockets are overrated. I run an 11-32 top gear and I know from using a GPS tracker that the gear spins out at 62-63 km/h. If you're going faster than that you're either a) riding on a track that's too easy or b) riding on the road. No one needs to go faster than 62 km/h on a real track. Look at world cup races. I would guess they put the speed trap on the fastest section and I've never seen anything over 60. 32 is the smallest chainring you can run on a normal 104bcd spider.

6 or 7 speed is something I am definitely interested in though. Most guys would agree that they use a lot less than ten gears on their DH bikes. I probably use 5 on mine, but I'd go for 7 speed Saint or Zee if I had the choice.

@ Mr. Pleb, less sprockets means a narrower cassette and therefore less dish on the back wheel. It's not the same as getting a ten speed and screwing the range screws in. The way of the future is ditch 150 back ends and 83mm shell BBs, revert to 135 and 73, and run a 7 speed block with a dishless rear wheel. I think that shit-hot carbon demo already has just that. Stronger back end, lower Q-factor so you can make more power, less chance of twatting your back end on shit through tight sections.
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flag poweredbypies (Sep 24, 2012 at 2:33)
 I see your point. Some great info there. I have seen a 30t chainring for 104pcd.
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flag jaame (Sep 24, 2012 at 21:30)
 I haven't seen one, but I acknowledge the possibility that they may exist.
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flag groghunter (Sep 25, 2012 at 22:09)
 Don't demos have Asymmetric Rear Triangle (zero dish) anyway? I know my 05 did, had to build a dishless 135 for it.
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flag trueeast (Sep 21, 2012 at 5:04)
 just got some of those 100 percent goggles and they are the best fitting set I have ever had. no nose pinching and the lens is awesome. cheaper than oakley also.
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flag cerealkilla (Sep 20, 2012 at 22:43)
 Love the Hope freehub body to fit SRAM x11. Might take some of the sting off the cost of converting if I decide to go that way. Hope it fits Pro2's.
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flag Diesel2007 (Sep 21, 2012 at 7:39)
 Everyone is talking about shoes here! Great pic Dennis and carolynn ! Two great rippers from the eastcoast ! I bet your having a blast there! Every year I say I am going to go and never do. You guys are living my dream!
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flag yuroshek (Sep 21, 2012 at 13:55)
 Thanks Diesel! We had a blast here at Interbike, awesome people and some really cool product to check out!
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flag trocksmooth (Sep 20, 2012 at 21:06)
 I guess we'll have to wait and see. 5.10 has basically been the gold standard in shoes for flats, and now with the Adidas and the resources and budget they have, I think they just might be alright.
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flag fordster272 (Sep 21, 2012 at 7:06)
 I think the 'bald spot' is to allow you to make the little adjustments to pedal position without the tread catching pins. Re apply the pressure and boom, back in grip town
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flag super-ralf (Sep 21, 2012 at 1:43)
 I love those POC helmets , Great colours for someone like me who is not 18 any more , add to that with 100% goggles ...... Mmmmmmm
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flag Calulo (Sep 21, 2012 at 6:10)
 The POC goggles are also really good, those give you more vision than any other goggle I have tried ...
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flag hopless (Sep 21, 2012 at 21:28)
 I love 5 10, the shoes have improved my game a ton. That said I bought 4 pairs of the Spitfires right after they got bought out as changes where bound to come.
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flag smokey101 (Sep 21, 2012 at 12:31)
 Tequila? nah...ill stick with my beer
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flag kbakes (Sep 20, 2012 at 20:57)
 The 510's outsole looks kind of....simple.
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flag krash (Sep 20, 2012 at 21:05)
 simple, sure. but when it comes to flat pedals that's kind of perfect
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flag obee1 Plus (Sep 20, 2012 at 21:28)
 with all due respect, 5.10's, with their sole as is, can be almost too sticky. i see no need to make the surface fully flat. not to mention that as a "freerider" who already uses a freeriding shoe, i find myself hike a biking and pushing my bike up trail- regularly. how is a flat sole going to provide traction? the rubber doesn't stick that great to dirt. i would not buy this shoe over the previous pattern.
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flag Varaxis (Sep 20, 2012 at 21:38)
 My prob with the Freerider shoe is that it fills up with dirt far too easily. Also since it has no ankle support, dabs can lead to sprains. I'm having more luck with Karvers.
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flag krash (Sep 20, 2012 at 22:07)
 you know obee, i totally didnt take hiking into account, i see the issue.
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flag tanner-greiner (Sep 21, 2012 at 6:35)
 @ Varaxis
I got the impacts and i love them, they have plenty of support and dont get full of dirt. They feel more like a boot than a shoe when i first got them though, besides when your standing on pedals
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flag obee1 Plus (Sep 21, 2012 at 8:42)
 fill up with dirt? i just buy the standard black 5.10 and have owned about 5 pairs and never had a problem like that. fwiw that f*ckin shoe stopped a poorly directed axe from splitting my foot clean in half, and has the cut mark to show it. i see the design progression and aesthetic changes in these current 5.10 shoes as "new icing on a cake that has already satisfied the appetite" in an effort to get the populace to "buy more cakes". i see no need to change the tread pattern or much else on these shoes, and buy them just about every season.
an excellent trail work shoe, and they also make great grass cutting shoes.
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flag iamamodel (Sep 21, 2012 at 14:18)
 Just remember that they make lots of different models, it is not like they are going to make all their soles smooth. No need to panic.
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flag obee1 Plus (Sep 21, 2012 at 15:04)
 you are a model.
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flag Varaxis (Sep 21, 2012 at 18:12)
 The Karver is like the Impact (Mid) with a tongue, which has support for the inside half of the ankle. It has a thick base, so it makes ya a bit taller and your CoG a bit higher, but gives ya more standover for those times you happen to land without both feet firmly on the pedals.

Was only responding to obee1's comment that implies the Freerider shoe was meant for actual freeriding under a "freerider". I'm no freerider, but I do like to scan for new lines off of rocks and stuff, and I can only see those problems being more serious under real and more passionate/serious freeriders. Having to stop and empty out your shoes of gravel, dirt, and vegetation, and pick off prickly stuff off the laces gets old fast. Not to mention the issue with the sole coming unglued and the mesh material of the upper not being very tough on certain Freerider styles. Not sure how loose the dirt is for other plp or how hard they ride, but this is more like skate shoe with stiffer/thicker sole with stealth rubber compound.

www.pinkbike.com/photo/8691386
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flag obee1 Plus (Sep 21, 2012 at 19:37)
 varaxis what you have right there in that photo is one helluva good set of hay bailers. the farmers working around my house would be jealous. haha you make a good point about the shoe for sure.
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flag game (Sep 22, 2012 at 13:55)
 personally I'd like to see 5 ten step up materials and quality. I expect higher quality upper materials and better glue in a $135 shoe.
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flag Trail-Gnome (Sep 20, 2012 at 21:05)
 Rock on Projekt Roam! Great shot! The Circus crew misses you.
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flag projektroam (Sep 22, 2012 at 15:18)
 Miss you guys too Smile
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flag KennyKillsIt (Sep 21, 2012 at 0:50)
 5.10 freerides look really generic now that Addidas took over. I really dislike the sole
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flag Carrot-Top (Sep 20, 2012 at 21:10)
 I liked the larger platform of the old Acros A-Flat pedal design, even if it was a few grams heavier.
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flag kingofbike (Sep 20, 2012 at 23:12)
 The 'Old' one is still available.
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flag boylagz (Sep 21, 2012 at 0:24)
 Love my AFlats... Big Grin
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flag ButtonPusher (Sep 21, 2012 at 7:42)
 I want that Saint hat...
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flag JonwithoutaH (Sep 21, 2012 at 14:05)
 Same, looks sick Big Grin
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flag Jester1826 (Sep 21, 2012 at 0:18)
 That formula fork looks really interesting love to have a shred on them...... After the tequila's of course!!!
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flag themountain (Sep 21, 2012 at 4:26)
 Obviously pedals, backpacks and shoes are the main attraction on this fair ...kind of exiting...lol!
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flag dawids (Sep 22, 2012 at 18:45)
 A lot of grammar mistakes in this article. Needs to be edited. lol
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flag dboss (Sep 23, 2012 at 8:04)
 where can i buy those saint hat?
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flag poweredbypies (Sep 22, 2012 at 12:02)
 Tidy Acros stuff. And moby.
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flag ZacSmith (Sep 21, 2012 at 10:17)
 YUROSHEK!!!
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flag vinny4130 (Sep 21, 2012 at 15:48)
 Dante with the photobomb!!!
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flag xanbuxblackxopsx (Sep 22, 2012 at 1:36)
 where can i get that saint hat? :O
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flag rmx07 (Sep 20, 2012 at 21:03)
 new pedals on a scale, again..
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flag Rockurshoxoff95 (Sep 20, 2012 at 21:00)
 I want a pair of those 100% goggles !
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flag livinlifejm11 (Sep 20, 2012 at 20:58)
 Sick goggles, pedals and women! Wish i could have gone.
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flag miguel-fonseca (Sep 21, 2012 at 10:54)
 ??? each pedals weights 344 grams?? Smile
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flag jeff444 (Sep 21, 2012 at 6:19)
 Nice shot in the poc pic. Smiling face in the mirror
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flag azdog (Sep 21, 2012 at 13:46)
 I spy Dante Harmony in the POC mirror.
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flag donpinpon29 (Sep 21, 2012 at 15:44)
 Gaoxiang89: clear as water
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flag live2bikebike2live (Sep 21, 2012 at 16:31)
 want those 5 10 s soooo bad
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flag hwood1010 (Sep 21, 2012 at 14:10)
 anyone know where to get a saint baseball cap from?
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flag ButtonPusher (Sep 21, 2012 at 15:36)
 i tried googling it up which came up with nothing... except shimano fishing hats...
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flag JHewitt (Sep 22, 2012 at 13:53)
 you want to pay to be an advert?
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flag ButtonPusher (Sep 23, 2012 at 0:59)
 for something of quality, and most hats have logos on them so it may as well be something good...
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flag yuroshek (Sep 23, 2012 at 21:41)
 I think Shimano only made "X" amount for the show. They were out of hats by the last half of dirt demo.
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flag aubbietrekrules (Sep 20, 2012 at 23:44)
 Mmmm HOPE! Those pedals look dope!
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flag Schy (Sep 20, 2012 at 21:43)
 I missed out... Bigtime!
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flag cherouvim (Sep 20, 2012 at 22:21)
 Those chipps.
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flag stevil-1 Plus (Sep 21, 2012 at 0:32)
 Mmmmm chipps. Smile
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