Hayes Dyno Brakes - Sea Otter Day 1

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chrisberty (Apr 15, 2011 at 8:49)

looks like a new generation of Hayes Nine, "aka, the greatest and most bomb-proof brake ever made" Smile

rejean (Apr 15, 2011 at 10:50)

that never worked well...but still got the job done

chrisberty (Apr 15, 2011 at 12:57)

cheap and cheerful Smile

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Daxx (Apr 15, 2011 at 8:06)

a nice brake for a nice price Smile

Quinn-39 (Apr 15, 2011 at 9:31) (Below Threshold) show comment

pah, probably gonna perform as well as the so1e did. Jamming a stick in my spokes will provide more consistent braking power.

pperini (Apr 15, 2011 at 13:03)

i can already see that pad contact adjuster on the prime flying away on the first crash..nice dyno tho

the-mountainbart-experience (Apr 15, 2011 at 14:37)

shimano look-alike lever + hayes stroke calipper?

dougies (Apr 15, 2011 at 17:16)

looks like a trek session..

NorthEasternDH (Apr 15, 2011 at 20:07)

haha i get the refrence!.... dougies you silly guy, starting up fueds from past article comments

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MadMax883 Plus (Apr 15, 2011 at 11:30)

I mean really, how many hayes brakes are out there that are good, first off. But then cable disc brakes like the bb7 are under $50 and they are more powerful and reliable than any hydraulic brake under $120. I mean bb7 are much more powerful than juicy 3's which are $80 and then they are better than any of those tektro hydraulic, and most of the hayes brakes.
Mechanical disc brakes are more powerful than a lot of hydraulics.

bikinhippy (Apr 16, 2011 at 5:33)

your right on that dude.i had bb7s and they are way too snappy when you go from most hydraulics but apart from avid and kooka cable discs most of them suck and overheat and are a hassle to set up with rubbing

bikinhippy (Apr 16, 2011 at 5:34)

without rubbing i meant!!

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domdamonster (Apr 15, 2011 at 13:24)

I've completely ridden the shit out of multiple sets of hayes brakes over the past 2 seasons (All on different bikes: stroker trails, rydes, and the older nines). & So far I've come up with this conclusion: Hayes certainly does not make the best hydraulic disk brakes on the market (stopping power, adjustments, etc). However, for the price, low maintenance (I haven't even had to bleed mine yet!), and durability, I'd definitely say they're worth the small dent they leave in your wallet. Cheers

rocklegacy (Apr 16, 2011 at 14:42)

I've been running Hayes as long as I've been biking. They do tend to rub, but I have not had to bleed or fix one yet.

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deadatbirth (Apr 15, 2011 at 8:30)

awesome price for the entry level mtb bike. hopefully cable disc brakes will go away now.

KennyKillsIt (Apr 15, 2011 at 8:48)

Yeah, I'm sick of working on my friends' cable brake systems.

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carter-hill (Apr 15, 2011 at 9:28)

a dope BB7 feels better than a J5.

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Quinn-39 (Apr 15, 2011 at 9:32)

BB7 feels better than most brakes under 200.

Bjammin (Apr 15, 2011 at 16:39)

I run bb7s on my bullit, and they are amazing. no shortage of stopping power, and although there isn't nearly as much modulation, there is stil a decent amount. Nothing compared to XO brakes though, those things are HEAVEN.

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brodude (Apr 15, 2011 at 9:35)

Coming from a person that has owned many sets of different Hayes brakes over the years, I have to say I'm with beeboo. Hayes hasn't made a brake that was worth a crap since 10 years ago. Not to mention, customer support at Hayes is a total joke. I took them a pair of 1 year old brakes at Crankworx a couple years ago and they refused to work on them or provide any support becaues they weren't the most up to date model. Truly PATHETIC. My advice: buy some Avid's and go ride worry free!!!

ButtonPusher (Apr 15, 2011 at 9:45)

... and then bleed them after every ride..! Don't get me wrong, i'm defending Hayes, just sayin' that Avid come with their own set of problems...

jptothetree (Apr 15, 2011 at 9:47)

go with shimano's Cool

JayTom20 (Apr 15, 2011 at 10:03)

can't beat hope brakes in MY OPINION...

ButtonPusher (Apr 15, 2011 at 10:19)

not too many people have anything bad to say about Hope..! Hope's R great..!

ButtonPusher (Apr 15, 2011 at 10:20)

(edit) *** my top comment should read, "NOT defending Hayes" ***

hampsteadbandit (Apr 15, 2011 at 13:13)

@ button pusher

if you need to bleed your Avid brakes after every ride, its simply because you cannot bleed your Avid brakes properly?

take your Avid brakes to an experienced Avid wrench and have them properly bled, you will not have any issues...

I have been running Avid Juicy 7s and Elixirs for many years and have not had any issues because I know how to bleed them

I also owned many pairs of Hayes HFX-Mag, HFX-9s and El Caminos and have nothing good to say about any of those brakes, especially in the long term where the ceramic pistons / seals degenerated and made the brakes work horribly...

ButtonPusher (Apr 15, 2011 at 14:05)

I was exaggerating, about after every ride... i was just trying to make a point about how it seems that all brake companies have their own sets of problems. I personally run Magura cuz i like the idea of using a mineral oil rather than dot fluid, (same with Shimano), and they barely ever need a bleed. Honestly, i think that the only brake company i've never seen any complaints about is Hope. Well, other than they stop too well, but some cats think getting the most powerful brake means it's the best brake, but it's just in finding one that suits what you ride...

nomnom (Apr 15, 2011 at 17:15)

Avids are totally fine, i ran juicy's on my old enduro for 3 months, than bought a gambler, rode them for another month and never needed a bleed at all, decided to buy saints for the extra power and they are amazing. Gotta admit tho that avid really screwed up the elixer, i had one on the old dj and it lasted for a week before it needed another bleed. Hope is not all that common in my area so its really hard to say weather they are good or not, magura is hard to get parts for but i don't hear bad things about them. Formula seem to be doing well with The One's, i hear the fade during long ride i.e Whistler, but nonetheless a fairly decent brake. In my opinion saints would be best, long lasting pads, long lasting bleeds if done right, and amazing power, modulation and look nice plus the reviews about them are never bad!

NorthEasternDH (Apr 15, 2011 at 20:08)

i've ran my elixers for a year striaght with no bleeds, could go another easy, but im bleeding them as we speak

nomnom (Apr 15, 2011 at 20:54)

were you "pumping" your brakes?

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lux-freerider (Apr 15, 2011 at 9:31)

why does everyone hate disc brakes ? I'd take my BB7 over any other hydro brake , just cos it's so easy to set up and maintenance free. And cheap as dirt too !

Tarka (Apr 15, 2011 at 10:42)

but zero stopping power compared to a strong hydro.... try stopping with 203mm BB7 brakes on a high-speed downhill and you're going to be totally boned. I like my Code R's....

Bjammin (Apr 15, 2011 at 16:41)

no your not, your going to stop. just not quite as fast.

MadMax883 Plus (Apr 15, 2011 at 19:45)

a 203mm bb7 is going to stop you in a second idk what you're on

stprulez (Apr 15, 2011 at 22:20)

well cable brakes will heat up a hell of a lot quicker then hydros ever will. The heat produced from braking with a cable will greatly reduce braking. cable and hydros each have their place, no sense in comparing apples to oranges.

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phobospwns (Apr 15, 2011 at 19:38)

I don't understand how everyone hates hayes. Still jaded from the Caminos I think. Just like Mantiou. Once people get the idea in their head, it doesn't matter what the company comes out with from there on out. Hayes is the best value out there, not the best brake. If you want that, be ready to pay double. It's all about what you are willing to spend for quality.

MadMax883 Plus (Apr 15, 2011 at 19:44)

what are you talking about avid elixir 5s are $110 which are some of the best brakes ever, and these hayes dyno which they mentioned themselves are cheap brakes are expected to be 80, a $30 difference is nothing especially for this unreal size of a difference

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banshee-ripper (Apr 15, 2011 at 10:00)

"Dyno Compe"... sounds like the name of an old GT bike... Oh wait, it was!

www.fototime.com/%7BB6604764-C518-4165-AD6C-32806C2B0D76%7D/picture.JPG

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spoonyman (Apr 15, 2011 at 9:01)

I haven't been impressed with Hayes stuff recently, all the strokers I've tried have had a really wooden, underpowered feel - hopefully they're turning it around!

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Fozzube (Apr 16, 2011 at 3:56)

they look alright don't they, but are they as good as the hope tech x2's im running at the moment, which have survived several bad crashes two horrible gritty muddy winters and my lack of maintainance.

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thatdude01 (Apr 15, 2011 at 9:21)

man all im saying is hayes are not bolt on problem free perfection AVID 4 life

bunkey (Apr 15, 2011 at 11:34)

Are you serious? Avids are nice brakes, great lever feel, but they have to be one of the most inconsistent brands I know of - Sooo many problems with the Elixer's letting in air, presumably down to their massively over-complicated bite-point control on the master cylinder. I like my Elixer's and my Juicy's (When they work) but there are much more deserving brakes for the 'Fit and forget' title.

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iimacmillanxd (Apr 15, 2011 at 10:14)

from a distance you could pass the whole lever for the new hopes unless hayes will have them in sliver?

bunkey (Apr 15, 2011 at 11:36)

Neither of the pictured levers look like the 'new' hopes - By which I assume you mean the Hope Tech levers.

iimacmillanxd (Apr 15, 2011 at 11:43)

yes sorry, i ment the tech levers Salute

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chuck271 (Apr 15, 2011 at 8:35)

It should help get most everybody rolling on Mechanical disc to switch to hydraulic disc.

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pball19ac (Apr 15, 2011 at 12:03)

Hey, it's a cheap looking Shimano.

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willbeilke (Apr 15, 2011 at 14:42)

They look like garbo, and every thing they use to make sucked so why wast your time to see if they finally got there shit together.

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nineinchofhonkingtravel Plus (Apr 15, 2011 at 8:50)

yeah thats a really good thing. bether then the machanical sh*T. good price too.

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offyatree (Apr 15, 2011 at 19:02)

He has a really thick American accent there.

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masterbailer (Apr 15, 2011 at 8:48)

I think they are try hards.

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bill-guitarandbike (Apr 15, 2011 at 12:14)

Modern hayes 9 brilliant!!! much better for the price than any of that avid juicy 3 shit!!

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pokalface (Apr 15, 2011 at 15:01)

similar to shimano,but with that 79$,its good

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Views (Apr 15, 2011 at 12:11)

better then avid i bet anyways.... Saints all the way

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MadMax883 Plus (Apr 15, 2011 at 19:40)

bb7s are going to be 5x better than these brakes

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MadMax883 Plus (Apr 15, 2011 at 19:40)

bb7s all the way

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MadMax883 Plus (Apr 15, 2011 at 19:35)

bb7s are going to be 5x better no doubt

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MadMax883 Plus (Apr 15, 2011 at 19:41)

not a fan of hayes

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sortafast (Apr 15, 2011 at 8:28)

meh.

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cork (Apr 15, 2011 at 8:58)

I remember paying over $100 for V-brakes!

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thatdude01 (Apr 15, 2011 at 8:18)

HAYES ARE SHITT

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IH4LIFE (Apr 15, 2011 at 8:26)

False.

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spiffy (Apr 15, 2011 at 8:55)

hey thatdude1, how about telling us why you don't like these new brakes.. oh wait, you've never ridden them.

manchicken (Apr 15, 2011 at 9:02)

all i can say is im not leaving ym hopes from now on, had a set of strokers (admittedly not a dh brake but good for a starting point on a budget) and i really didnt like them, next i borrowed some old juicy 7's and they crapped out after a couple rides but my new hopes just feel amazing

gordon2456 (Apr 15, 2011 at 9:18)

I LOVE hayes brakes, sure they take a while to bleed but they never make a sound for me, great power, and great modulation as long as you use EBC pads. I feel like they just get a bad rap from people that have never tried them or taken time to experiment with them. I am really looking forward to these new brakes, especially the prime with the bite point adjustment on it. But thats just my opinion, everyones entitled to there own so neg prop me all you want lol!

mountguitars (Apr 15, 2011 at 17:00)

props to hayes for coming up with an affordable set of hydraulic disk brakes and even providing lifetime warranty on it with regards to leakage.

but i have to say that im a dissatisfied customer. i had a hayes stroker that came with my 2009 reign X2 and they suck i replaced them right away within a month or 2 of use every weekend. broken in? yes. to the point where the rotors got burnt and i smell brake pads on every run i had. may not be the right brake for the type of riding that im doing but OMG, to be able to push my bike uphill with the brake levers pulled really hard and i can still push my bike to the top of the hill is plain stupid. i probably got a lemon but that's both the front and rear brakes so, i'd say hayes is SHIT in my books. so this leak warranty they're offering doesn't add any value if the brakes don't even work in the first place.

MCsession7 (Apr 15, 2011 at 19:28)

I have Hayes Stroker Carbon's on my DH bike, amazing power. Nice reach adjustment, don't dis Hayes, they make awesome stuff!

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beeboo (Apr 15, 2011 at 8:14)

Get ready, here goes ANOTHER failed brake!

spiffy (Apr 15, 2011 at 8:54)

Have you ridden the Dynos? I have not, but I've had older Hayes' systems that worked great. I think I'll reserve judgment until I've actually ridden a set. The price is killer though, can't argue that.

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