2008 Hayes Stroker Review

Oct 10, 2007

In the most simple of terms, brakes make you stop. However, somewhere between coasting and skidding is a midrange that most of us ride – that is, if we’re riding with any sanity and skill – employing varying pressure on our front and back brakes in unison, in what is aptly called “modulation.”

Modulation, or “a regulating according to measure or proportion,” as defined by Websters Dictionary, is what keeps us from loosing it on a loose downhill line, skidding out in a dusty corner or sliding around a tight switchback. The varying pressure transfers weight and thus grip to the front or back of the bike, enabling the tire’s tread to hook up with the dirt and maintain delicate friction with rock or wood. When brakes work well, they have the “feel” that allows you to modulate through any nasty section, keeping your rubber side down and, in turn, allowing you to ride better. Simply put, good breaks make you faster.

I have had the opportunity to try some of the finest new brakes on the market over the last couple years, and it’s no surprise that many, myself included, thought Hayes was loosing its once-strong foothold in the market. This was due in part to Hayes’ most recent incarnation, The El Camino, which pretty much sucked, and a list of remarkable new products from Avid, Shimano and Formula, just to name a few. It’s no surprise that Hayes (www.hayesdiscbrake.com)decided to scrap all their previous models, go back to the drawing board, and what they’ve come up with looks good both on paper and on the trail, but the question remains, how will they perform?

Old reliable brake set

Old reliable brake set



New Hayes Stroker offerings

New Hayes Stroker offerings



I received a pair of “striking pearl white” Stroker Trails, the middle in a three-model range, with carbon fiber levers being the top dog. The Stroker Trail is likely the model you’ll see on most freeride and downhill bikes. I mounted them on my trusted and true SX Trail, taking off an older set of Hayes Mags that I’d ridden for the past couple years largely due to reliability and ease of maintenance. The new Strokers certainly looked the part:

Stroker Trail Master Cylinder and Lever

Stroker Trail Master Cylinder and Lever

Stroker Trail Caliper

Stroker Trail Caliper


Design wise, the all-new Stroker is significantly different than it’s earlier siblings. Most notably, the new Stroker features:

•A radial master cylinder that can be mounted on either side of the handle bar for those who like to ride moto-style (front brake on the right)
•Small handlebar footprint allows trigger shifters to be mounted on either side of the master cylinder
•Two-piece calipers
•A long master cylinder, resulting in a lever placement that provides better leverage with less effort
•Ergonomically optimized lever blade
•A master cylinder that contains 33% more fluid to help with fading due to high heat and, they claim, minimizes wear
•The slickest tool-free lever reach adjustment ever (can be dialed as you ride, carefully)
•Larger pads (largest Hayes ever) with tool-free placement
•Same standard Hayes post-mount so it can be used with 5, 6, 7, 8 or 9 inch rotors
•Claimed weight of 14 ounces




Out of the box there was no bleeding necessary and the new ergonomics were clearly an improvement. Typically, new brakes feel a little strange until you get used to them, but not Strokers. A few turns of the blue lever reach adjuster (light years beyond the small allen key screw of yore), even as I set them while pedaling from the lift at the top of my first descent at Whistler, had them engaging precisely where I wanted.

After a few runs on the mainstays of A-Line and Dirt Merchant, the brakes began to seed in nicely. I decided a prolonged DH run was in order and I headed to the top of Garbanzo. Nothing can get a pair of brakes more red hot than a non-stop charge of Original Sin, and I was amazed these brakes held the same supple yet powerful feel from top to bottom.


And that brings me back to my original comment – these are the finest modulating brakes I’ve ever felt. If there could be a fault to some of Hayes’ competitors it's that they’re too all-or-nothing. They have tons of power, but in that mid-range they seem to lack feel, which is what I had in spades with the Strokers. Simply put, the confidence and feel of these brakes allowed me to – or at least made me feel like I could – charge harder thanks to the modulation that keep the knobbies that much closer to the brink of cutting loose, which, ultimately, means faster.


Of course, the Strokers must stand the test of time, but judging from my early impressions, I’d have to say that Hayes has pulled out all the stops to make some damn good stoppers.

-Ryan Kuhn


*Hayes Notice*

Some Strokers (Ryde and Trail, not Carbon) went out with inadequately greased master cylinder o-rings. In some cases, this causes a slow lever retraction. We've created a service kit that consists of a small dish of DOT-4 compatible grease and a lint-free applicator swab. All you need to do is to remove the pushrod from the master cylinder, apply grease to the top of the master cylinder (with the piston pushed into the cylinder), allow the piston to rise and apply grease to the o-ring. If done correctly (it's a piece of cake), there's no need to re-bleed the brake. From start to finish, it takes about ten minutes, tops. And one kit contains enough grease to service about five sets of brakes. Owners of affected brakes should take them to an authorized Hayes dealer to have the service performed.
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flag mtbmick (Oct 10, 2007 at 2:52)
man they are some good looking brakes im glad haynes have made a decent set of brakes now
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flag tanner7799 (Oct 10, 2007 at 6:55) (Below Threshold) show comment
learn to spell the word was through out the news thing................its hayes not haynes its brakes not underwear
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flag jason222 (Oct 10, 2007 at 10:53)
Kinda reminds me of some of the magura stuff or Echo Brakes.
http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/images/large_ebrakeon3.jpg
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flag eric---o (Oct 10, 2007 at 5:19) (Below Threshold) show comment
i find em ugly
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flag bigslope3 (Oct 11, 2007 at 17:01)
Ok whoever finds them ugly the.....i dont wana say anyhting bad. But Those new Strokers are soem of the best looking breaks ive ever seen. I might have to pick me up a set. Smile
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flag north123shore (Oct 12, 2007 at 15:49) (Below Threshold) show comment
i completly agree they are ugly, they look pretty fragile as well.
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flag mikestp (Oct 13, 2007 at 6:32)
They look awsome but yes; they do look fragile.
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flag konacowboy (Jun 18, 2008 at 19:34)
actually they're really strong breaks
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flag dhrider03 (Oct 10, 2007 at 5:35)
they're nice, but they are a weird shape people arent used to so thats why people are going to say they are ugly.
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flag giant0rider (Oct 11, 2007 at 17:30)
arnt they prety much the same as the magura (sorry about my spelling on this word lol ) louis
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flag hodges (Oct 10, 2007 at 5:41) (Below Threshold) show comment
sorry, me no likey hayes. no thumbs up tho, no thumbs down. the idea seems good
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flag pistol2ne (Oct 10, 2007 at 5:43)
uhhhhhh oh watch out avid!
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flag z-man (Oct 10, 2007 at 12:34) (Below Threshold) show comment
everyone knows that avid still kicks the strokers ass, the stroker doesn't have pad contact adjust, lust leaver reach adjust, magura is the way to go
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flag giant0rider (Oct 11, 2007 at 17:31) (Below Threshold) show comment
second that
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flag pistol2ne (Oct 11, 2007 at 18:13)
Ok Z-man how does everyone know that? your being an idiot which do i prefer on my bike right now oviously codes. But at the same time who knows how the new strokers feel I have heard people have actually tried them. All I am saying is that people better watch out becuase I have heard reports of these things being way better than anything else on the market. So only time will tell
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flag smirgski (Oct 10, 2007 at 5:44)
Initial usage sounds good. But I have a couple of questions:
How many days do you have on them so far? Can you update after a couple months?

Have you bleed the brakes or investigated how it will be on these brakes? You listed the Mags were a choice to do ease of maintenance how do the stokers compare?

Tool free pad removal, got a pic? The older mags only required pliers to grab the tabs and slide them out, how are these different?
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flag ryann (Oct 10, 2007 at 7:51)
I've been riding the Strokers since late August and get out on my DH bike 3-4 times per week. I have the early demo model which suffered the master cylinder 0-ring stiction problem mentioned at the end of the story. However, once lubed they have been issue-free. I haven't needed to bleed them yet so can't comment on the ease, but the fact that I haven't had to bleed them also says something about set up out of the box. As for brake pad removal, the tab on the new pads is larger, making it easier to grasp with fingers rather than needlenose pliers.

-Ryan
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flag thrice (Oct 10, 2007 at 7:22)
Reminds me of dirt bike brakes. At least the way the lever pushes down on the hydraulic cylinder.
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flag buddyisonfire (Oct 10, 2007 at 7:37)
The new Formula "the one" brakes are way sicker. The strokers are pretty rad too though.
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flag joshaustin (Oct 10, 2007 at 8:00) (Below Threshold) show comment
i cant wait to get mine, 2008 p2 with hayes strokers! boo ya!
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flag patrickcunningham (Oct 10, 2007 at 8:04)
I got a pair of the un-lubed brakes. It is not as easy as they say to re-lube them and the oil kit still hasnt come after 2 weeks. If you take some dot 4 brake fluid and put that in there it works but you have to compress the lever many a time before the oil reaches the inner o ring. Serious pain in the ass.
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flag foxytoe (Oct 10, 2007 at 9:26)
nice sticker job on the fork
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flag ride-pg (Oct 10, 2007 at 9:57) (Below Threshold) show comment
UUUUUGGLLYY
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flag dwightthompson (Oct 10, 2007 at 10:15)
People who just post that they look ugly should at least justify why or else their comment is pointless. I am tired of those individuals who insist on keep doing that. Plus in the end if they are ugly based on appearance then that is a matter of individual preference. With that said I do fancy how you're able to adjust them easily even while still on your bike. Time will tell how the public will welcome Hayes Stroker.
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flag louiffe (Oct 10, 2007 at 11:32)
I agree...
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flag mikestp (Oct 13, 2007 at 6:37)
true dat
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flag Spacewolf (Oct 10, 2007 at 10:51)
i like them... but I already know they are way too expensive for me.. Frown
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flag harriieee (Oct 10, 2007 at 11:35)
I think they look nice, but having the brake lever's pivot so exposed looks like they'll be more delicate and may mean more technical problems. I think they may not hold up too well in crashing, but hey, what do I know, I've never ragged them into the dirt. I'd be tempted, but with solid offerings from Avid, which you know are hardy as you like and very reliable, I'm not too sure.
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flag crispen (Oct 10, 2007 at 11:47)
Why in the world of one piece calipers has gone back to a two piece one? So they feel great, don't you think they would feel better, be stiffer and lighter with a one piece casting? They will probably make it one piece next year so people have a reason to upgrade.
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flag buzzard (Oct 10, 2007 at 14:53)
actually with the two-piece casting the steel bolts that hold it together can make it stronger than aluminum one-piece castings. look at the codes. they have four stainless bolts to hold the caliper together, most likely for rigidity. they really only need two to hold it together.
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flag matt-beer (Oct 10, 2007 at 11:50)
H O P E
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flag btray8 (Oct 10, 2007 at 11:52)
I'd get them, but they'd totally clash with my full SRAM kit. Wink
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flag mikestp (Oct 13, 2007 at 6:38)
go shimano
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flag dhcyc (Oct 10, 2007 at 12:02)
bullshit, their price is just like of the others Hayes brakes, or very similar and that's not a lot if u'd be attempting to buy some hydraulic disc brakes. the only disadvantage is that they haven't been tested for a longer period of time and the testing and opinions itself are what a lot of people looks at. to me in the begining, the lever was weird and rather ugly but with a closer look I found it modernly designed and cool. I'm glad Hayes brought out the new line of a that cool brakes and I'd consider putting em on my bike if I didn't have my Avids already
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flag gibson-dh (Oct 10, 2007 at 12:14)
They're nice...but so are the 08 whitey silver Codes[/B
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flag Solso (Oct 10, 2007 at 14:18)
Radial brakes have been around for some time now and I believe that performance wise, they have proven themselves to be better... no matter what brand ur using. I myself have been using Hayes nines for a long time and I have a set of Magura's Marta SL (radial master cylinder) on my XC bike. Modulation is indeed 100 times better with radial brakes. I don't know how the strokers feel is compared to the maguras or even shimano's XTR but I'm sure they should be above par compared to other traditional system simply for the fact that they use a radial master cylinder. Only thing is, AVID/SRAM do have the advantage in terms of product compatibility, but with the smaller handlebar grip......it should work fine anyways... let's see how it will hold on a long term basis
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flag stinkyeti (Oct 10, 2007 at 17:12)
Hope V2 Bitches.....strokers not worth the extra $$$
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flag buzzard (Oct 10, 2007 at 17:15)
because Hope sells a $170 brake.....
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flag parkeredwards (Oct 10, 2007 at 19:43)
the strokers with a 8" Rotor are like only $183 American (which basically is the as Canadian now)on pricepoint.

http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/16668-115_HAYS87-43-Brands-188-Hayes-Disc-Brakes/Hayes-Stroker-Trail-V8-Disc-Brake.htm
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flag barker26 (Oct 14, 2007 at 20:41)
listen pal canadian dollar is better than the states now
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flag kmarsh (Oct 10, 2007 at 17:31)
These brakes are sweet. My friend has a pair, they feel soo good, and have good power to.
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flag djjumper13 (Oct 10, 2007 at 17:37) (Below Threshold) show comment
the strokers are an obese bitch
i prefer my nines
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flag smirgski (Oct 11, 2007 at 5:14)
Got some numbers to back the "obese" claim up?
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flag penguinmaster (Oct 10, 2007 at 20:23)
ok one they look brital is this what it seems can someone help me? lol and can someone send me the pics of other brakes and the names so i can compare for myself. (and when it comes to those brakes i dont care ones that are similar to the strokers or whatever u prefure/like) well i have to go now so someone send me a msg. Thanks.
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flag spjumpr (Oct 10, 2007 at 20:30)
codes are the way to go
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flag sammyboy2038 (Oct 10, 2007 at 20:36) (Below Threshold) show comment
shit brakes
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flag nateb (Oct 10, 2007 at 20:59)
Owned probably 4 sets of hayes brakes before getting some Shimano's a few years ago, between shimano xt's on my xc bike and avid juicy carbons on my dh bike I will never own a hayes product again, their stuff was shit compared to any other brake I have tried since. Won't give them another chance.
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flag nyterider (Oct 10, 2007 at 21:07)
the avid codes are still the best brakes out there
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flag ironmaiden4life (Oct 10, 2007 at 21:16)
y dont they make those folding levers like ASV have for motocross i hav them on my d-bike and i think theyed be awsome for my mtn bike
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flag skatejunkie (Oct 10, 2007 at 21:26)
I can't wait until they release the 09 strokers that have 4 pistons, those might be competition for avid and formula. but overall I think I'll stick with my codes
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flag veggiemaster (Oct 10, 2007 at 21:32)
And magura louise or martas look any better? It seems that everyone is simply basing their opinion SOLELY on looks and has ZERO experience with the brake or any other brakes for the most part.

Sure, you may think they look like ass, but if they perform better than any other brake you've owned, then whats the big deal?

Try the product out before flat out flaming on it. You come across looking like an uneducated idiot. When you have the knowledge and first hand, real-world experience of this brake and others in its same category, then come back and state your opinions. Until then, keep the flaming out.
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flag dozr (Oct 10, 2007 at 23:21)
So far I've tried the El Camino and Nine models. El Camino isn't worth extra monet, and I didn't really like the performance(I agree with the feedback of the author of the article), nine was ok(pretty cheep and smooth). I find Strokers preety well built, I havn't seen them in the stores though. I guess they really are nice, it's been proved with the info about the largest brake pads ever of all Hayes Models. The design reminds me of Echo and Magura and the 2008 Shimano LX/XT/XTR midels. I'm looking forward to trying them
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flag knopf (Oct 11, 2007 at 9:30)
I don't Trust Ryan Khun further then I can throw him, He's a dirty little snake in the ground..... haha.... Shimano for LIFE. Hows Rossland Bro?
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flag eliotwright (Oct 11, 2007 at 10:50)
Haven't tried these and so im not gonna bash them, but....
Brule states that many other brakes lack the feeling between on and off. Obviously he hasnt used Magura Gustav's yet. I have owned avid juicy 5's, hope mono 6, and older hayes. I have ridden just about everything and am back to Magura.
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flag halo4 (Oct 11, 2007 at 13:54)
looks so good!!
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flag baldo (Oct 11, 2007 at 15:01) (Below Threshold) show comment
they look like what i produced this morning
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flag mikestp (Oct 13, 2007 at 6:40)
sumthing seriously rong with you then
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flag kona962kamloops (Oct 11, 2007 at 17:10) (Below Threshold) show comment
if they were a better color i dont think they would look so bad
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flag oldschoolj (Oct 11, 2007 at 20:09)
Function before fashion....you buy a product because it performs the way you like it to be perform, Not because it looks good or is a nice color. Never give shit to a product you have never tried first hand.
These brakes work excellent. Feel great and hell... look beefy and indestructable...a definate first for Hayes...sign me up. Bye bye Saints, hello strokers for 2008
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flag kona962kamloops (Oct 11, 2007 at 21:48)
im not sayin theyre bad if theyre good ill get em im just saying they could improve the looks by changing the colors or having color options because some people might want somethign darker on theyre bike
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flag mikestp (Oct 13, 2007 at 6:41)
who said there arn't diferent colour options?
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flag dirtdavediddler (Oct 11, 2007 at 17:17) (Below Threshold) show comment
I think that is the worst design.Has anybody thought about how they would handle a crash? They stick out so far i can see them getting damaged.They are ugly also and I don't buy things that are made to look different just to be different.There are too many companies out there making to many crap parts. I think the industrie needs some house cleaning to get rid of the poor quality crap that hits the market.
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flag dh-mtn-biker (Oct 11, 2007 at 18:51)
i dont think anyone cares what you think because you have no logic to back your ass up. im pertty sure hayes has tested these brakes for a while. they arnt going to release shitty brake to the public because they have competition and a name to uphold
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flag mikestp (Oct 13, 2007 at 6:42)
and they dont stick out any further than a normal brake
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flag stinkybastard (Oct 11, 2007 at 19:06)
Ill be rocking them next season for sure, despite the "non biased" visual reviews from you fine gentlemen.
Regards to the levers durability, its too soon for anyone to come to conclusions. Just dont ride like a retard, or ride a product against its designed purpose.
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flag Racerveza (Oct 12, 2007 at 10:00)
For those not in love with the white, we also make a gray version. I posted some shots on my profile page.
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flag brodiebikes666 (Oct 12, 2007 at 12:00) (Below Threshold) show comment
hayes are shit brakes and those look retarded
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flag mikestp (Oct 13, 2007 at 6:43)
ya face is
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flag live2ryde (Nov 2, 2007 at 15:36)
Ya cuz every one knows that profesinal bikers use shit braks there smartass
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flag skinna (Oct 12, 2007 at 14:09)
well i hope i enjoy them i just put the set that my bike shop had on hold ill post in here how they feel and wat there like since alot of ppl are dying to know
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flag alexv (Oct 12, 2007 at 20:10)
MY HAYES MAG ARE REBORN!!!!!
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flag sgsrider (Oct 12, 2007 at 23:18)
hey, thanks for the informative article on the strokers...I've seen a few of them (the rydes) on some of the new 08 and some 07 specialized stuff in the shop I work for, but I didn't know they were hayes? would you compare the ride to the purples of 'yore'? or are they similar to the mags?
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flag wattywatson (Oct 13, 2007 at 5:57)
bit hard to bleed! well done hayes make them sideways! stupid
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flag Evol (Oct 14, 2007 at 6:29)
Think about it before posting stupidity. You don't bleed them sideways. What do you think the "screw" at the top of the lever near the handlebar is for?
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flag Evol (Oct 14, 2007 at 6:34)
Sorry, I meant master cylinder, not lever.
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flag stinkybastard (Oct 13, 2007 at 9:12)
I swear people here just want to not like them.
Bleeding brakes is not rocket science and in my opinion hayes brakes are a testament to that. Read the instructions point for point like any system and you should be fine.
Its not like anyone bleeds there brakes post ride every ride.
Lets just wait and try them out instead of passing judgement on such trivial crap thats in a photo.
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flag specializedrider5 (Oct 13, 2007 at 20:15)
Those are sexy and everyone should give hayes another chance
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flag konaclump70005 (Oct 13, 2007 at 23:24)
wow why does everyone give minus props to people who have there own opinions. i personally like avids better so minus that
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flag Evol (Oct 14, 2007 at 6:54)
Ryan Kuhn: You said that they have better midrange modulation, but how would you compare the overall "power" of these Stroker Trails to your old Mags and/or Avid Codes ?
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flag ryann (Oct 14, 2007 at 8:51)
I would say they are more powerful than the Mags and on par with some of the other top models out today in terms of brute one-finger skidding. This is likely due to several changes including the larger master cylinder, pads and the new ergonomics provide better leverage. Avids may feel "sharper" but that comes at the cost of feel, in my opinion.

-Ryan
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flag Evol (Oct 14, 2007 at 10:01)
Thank you for your opinion.
Would you say that the lack of a "pad contact adjustment" affects this brake's abilities, function and/or ergonomics to any degree ?
Thanks again...
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flag ryann (Oct 15, 2007 at 7:26)
I don't think that would affect the brake's abilities, unless for some odd reason like not putting the adaptor/caliper on properly or a bent rotor etc and you're experiencing uneven wear or drag. Hasn't been an issue for me with the Strokers.
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flag goride730 (Oct 15, 2007 at 19:48)
fav brake since the day i saw them
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flag xcjunky (Oct 16, 2007 at 14:48)
I personally own a set of Codes. No doubt some of the best out there. But the Strokers have a good reach adjustment setup and split perch make’s them easy to change. Levers get broken for sure, anybody know how much $$ for one? Codes have a better lever design so IMO Srokers are best suited for AM and XC use.
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flag paulstreet (Oct 16, 2007 at 15:30)
Whats gona hapen wen the lever turn the otter side. ther notting to stop it. I wonder how mutch damedge it gonna cause beacause the noting that stop the lever from going to far.
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flag skinna (Oct 17, 2007 at 20:28)
i love this brake so much just got mine today and the modulation is the best ive ever felt for a brake and ive ridden alot of other brakes from juicys to shimano. i would recomend this brake to every one
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flag nbigfoot (Oct 27, 2007 at 21:26)
AVID CODES ALL THE WAY... I RIDE THEM ON MY 07 BIGFOOT AND THEY ARE AWESOEM FOR DH AND FREE RIDE DOTN BUY HAYSE GO WITH AVIDS
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flag jazzboy (Oct 29, 2007 at 21:18)
Got too burned with the El Caminos. Will never buy Hayes again! Their customer service used too be great...not anymore.
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flag rocko6 (Oct 30, 2007 at 11:17)
Some people totally got lost. They just say their own shit before they try it. You're an iditot if you compare it to a Code... This is a cheaper stuff!
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flag live2ryde (Nov 2, 2007 at 15:43)
I really like hayes and there new strocker design my other hayes have treated me well and from what i hear these are sweet braks, i like avids to but looks like some new copmpitision,and shimano is pissin me off becaus all there products i got have broke on me. good work hayes
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flag zekedoobie (Nov 28, 2007 at 10:51)
Who give flying f*ck what they look like. i have not tried them as of yet but i do ride hayes nines on both my bikes and really like them. these brakes must be better than the hayes nines or else they wouldnt have even made them, let alone spent months testing them. so next time your flyin down a knarly mountain-side..i hope you arent thinking "damn, these brakes look so cool" but instead. "damn these brakes work good". i know what ill be thinkin.. 'COOL' brakes dont stop you from hitting a tree if your on a hill, or a car door if on a street..good brakes do.
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flag stp-pride (Dec 1, 2007 at 10:15)
thay look like crap and there xc. hayes nine pride
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flag jh91 (Mar 15, 2008 at 14:25)
those are nice brakes, but how do they compare to the old nine line, which is what i'm currently running. in your opinion how is the fade of the brakes, lever pump, and overall feel, compared to the old nines, i thinkin about upgradein but i'm still not sure? are these worth buyin or no? thanks.
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flag yeti08 (Apr 25, 2008 at 22:56)
these breaks are boss
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flag bmxpro99 (May 14, 2008 at 18:01)
i've got some stroker rydes on my bike and to be honest, they are BAD! for the first 2 months, they were sweet. after that, they started to leak on trails and all over the place. i got it fixed..
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flag singletrackfool (Jul 6, 2008 at 21:07)
They do look sick.......
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flag alfredojra (Oct 22, 2008 at 13:27)
i have the same brakes
i have a problem with it
the bolts in the brake lever often come out
i dunno how to tighten it because there is no thread or something
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flag wildkard726 (Jun 21, 2009 at 21:11)
i have theese on my cowan so does my friend on his five-o but 09. anywho somehow we both lost pressure in both of our brakes..turns out air got in..so we bled em till there was none. still no pressure anyone knows what going on?? that would be nice
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flag jtsimaras (Jun 28, 2009 at 11:16)
They are garbage have them on my 08 Giant Reign 1 and the back brake will not return to full lever position after being applied its like the caliper is sticking. I will try the O-ring grease and see if that works as I already bled the brakes twice. If that does not work---Hopes or Avids are going to be the replacement. They feel good when they work but I have had more problems than the old hayes.
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