Kali Protectives Carbon Prana Helmet - Sea Otter Day 1

Apr 15, 2011 at 6:00
Apr 15, 2011
by Mike Levy  
 
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Kali's Composite Fusion Plus consists of pyramids of foam that are layered at different densities that Kali says directs that impact force sideways, not directly down onto your head. The foam is also formed within the helmet shell, thereby eliminating the small pocket of air between the shell and foam, making it much more efficient at absorbing impacts. <br><br><span style='font-size:19px'>Kali Prana Mantra details:</span><br><br>- Carbon shell<br>- Composite Fusion Plus construction<br>- Antibacterial, removable, washable liner<br>- Breakaway visor design<br>- Weight: 1200 grams
Kali's Composite Fusion Plus consists of pyramids of foam that are layered at different densities that Kali says directs that impact force sideways, not directly down onto your head. The foam is also formed within the helmet shell, thereby eliminating the small pocket of air between the shell and foam, making it much more efficient at absorbing impacts.

Kali Prana Mantra details:

- Carbon shell
- Composite Fusion Plus construction
- Antibacterial, removable, washable liner
- Breakaway visor design
- Weight: 1200 grams




The Parna Carbon is also DOT approved.
The Parna Carbon is also DOT approved.


Check out the Kali website for more information.


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46 Comments

  • + 32
 It looks like someone took a hedgehog and wrapped it in carbon.
  • + 13
 lots of pricks to save the prick on the inside
  • - 7
 wasnt that just the worst prick reference
  • + 14
 I quite like it Frown
  • + 1
 and since when was 1200 grams lightweight???
  • + 1
 stpguy that is light for a DOT approved lid.
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  • + 15
 its quite cool though how much thought, experimenting and research go into making a helmet, i personally think the future is going to be something like a iron man helmet with HUD's for the best route and stuff that would be awesome Big Grin
  • + 10
 Hydraulic visor adjuster and electric goggle de-fogger.
  • + 2
 windshield wipers and navi, maybe some xm satelite radio
  • + 1
 Actually matt, electric goggle de-foggers already exist. They're called fans lol Razz
  • + 2
 and a semi transparent screen so you can watch films while you ride
  • + 0
 an wind turbien so you dont ahve to pedal they could link it to a turbine in the bb shell
  • + 1
 wow effing awesome!
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  • + 4
 I ride Kali helmets and our Local Test Monkey Andrew Mitchell swears by them and he tends to crack his head into rocks a lot. He walks away with no concussions even when he cracks one. A good helmet saves your brain and Brad the owner has a savy military composite back ground. I'm taking Andrews word on the Helmets because he spits me the truth.
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  • + 3
 It looks huge! There's a vid on the Transition Bikes website of Lars Sternberg wearing what looks like this helmet and it's mahoosive! Whether he's got the wrong size I dunno, but have a look... www.transitionbikes.com then select "Lars N' Bars Episode 2" video... Sure it's the same helmet and tell me that doesn't look way too big! If it works though, fair play, better safe that sorry!
  • + 4
 Keep in mind it's DOT approved though, and compared to other DOT helmets it's about the same size.
  • + 3
 if "big" means keeping your dome safe, count me in. i always rocked a DOT lid.
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  • + 2
 Thanks for checking out our helmets. We'd be happy to explain the technology (and instrumentation, measurements, head forms, etc.) if you guys are interested. Just send us a note tech@kaliprotectives.com
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  • + 1
 Straight from our engineer. "Thanks for your questions about g force data. I have not released g force data on the Prana. I have been testing helmets for about 14 years now and if any company released random g force data I would seriously question it. With that said your question is very fair.

What I have done substantiate (beyond theories) our technology is to take helmets with the exact same shell shape and produce them with different manufacturing processes. Geometry plays a factor in compressive g force readings. The issue here is that is costly to have enough molds to do direct testing, but I beleive testing samples with the same geometry in the exact same location and controlling your test data is the appropriate way to test you theory. Random impacts are not controlled enough.

We do have tooling for our Nira road helmet in both Standard technology and in Composite fusion. This allowed us to test this helmet in the exact same conditions and the exact same locations. What we discovered was that the g force readings were 15 to 20% lower in ambient conditions with composite fusion. In hot conditions it was even better then that. If Cold conditions it was 7 to 15% better, so not as dramatic. Cold makes the foam harder which transfers too much load to your brain. Softer foam next to your head is a good thing.

We also have tooling between Composite fusion and Composite fusion plus in our Naza helmet. The geometric shapes in the Composite fusion plus further help us lower the density of the foam and in the end lower g’s.

Shoot me back any questions you have.
tech@kaliprotectives.com
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  • + 0
 I'm gona have to call bs. I'm sure it's a nice helmet and does a good job protecting your head maybe even slightly better than some of the competitors and I'm sure testing showed this but I doubt testing showed numbers anywhere near what those graphs are suggesting. If I'm wrong correct me cause I'd buy the lid
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  • + 3
 The comparison made with the graphs is saying a lot. I interested to know how the helmets where tested to achieve this data?
  • + 3
 Probably used an accelerometer
  • + 3
 I agree, maybe i spend too long hanging around laboratories (but then i am a biochemist so it is to be expected) but any claim without empirical evidence or reference is not worth the digital ink its written in, hell they didnt even try and explain how it works. Please, pray tell?
  • + 2
 I agree, I always get suspicious when there is a fancy name like "Composite Fusion Plus Technology" but no proof of how it works. The Kali lids do look good this year though.
  • + 3
 I see how it _could_ work with the foam design, it makes sense, but actually working as illustrated in the graphics is a whole other story, and then it actually being better and reducing injury is another layer on top of that. What would be very useful is the results of the DOT certification tests, I assume they report back impact peak impact loads or maybe even graphics from various collision types. Even if this isn't the case testing in this manner isn't very difficult if you have the equipment so it should be within the realm of a big magazine or website. This would provide the evidence needed to back up their claims.
  • + 3
 I am guessing of course, but they probably sent a force impulse to the helmet and then measured the deceleration response as shown in the as energy absorption vs. time. Your brain is surrounded by fluid; a concussion occurs when your brain accelerates very quickly and bumps into your skull. Reducing the acceleration of your brain by absorbing more energy (as these guys claim) will reduce your risk of concussion. As Alex said it would be good to see some real data but IMHO it looks like these guys are legit.
  • + 3
 more info here about Composite Fusion Plus technology: www.kaliprotectives.com/moto/fusion-tech
  • + 2
 That, and if you want to get really geeky in when they overlay all their force curves (bottom of that link) it looks pretty evident the total area under the curves is different, thereby implying the total impulse delivered in each test was different with the "classic construction" being on the end of the biggest hit, and the trippy hegehog one on the end of the smallest hit (yes i know itsjust a representation but if your going to make mistakes that obvious i rapidly loose faith). normally i wouldt give two s**ts for marketing bull, but when it comes to buying something that could very potentially save ones life (and in truth i do need a new full face atm) i want to know i am getting the best.
  • + 2
 Also since when did people commenting PB become all intellectual, normally it's like a bunch of arguing 8 year olds and chanting football hooligans.
  • + 3
 I agree, it would be nice if they referenced the studies, but perhaps they didn't because most people wouldn't understand it and it may lead to confusion. We all know that The Man thinks we are morons. Also, the data may be unpublished, and there is nothing to reference.

The cone encrusted foam inner was invented by an old Australian dude and he presented it to an Australian show called 'The New Inventors' (the was an older show called 'The Inventors', hence the disambiguation). This invention won the award for the best of the year, and the show set the guy up with contacts in the industry. It is good to see that his invention made it into production.

www.abc.net.au/tv/newinventors/inventions/finalists_2007.htm
  • + 1
 @iamamodel - I can assure you nobody at Kali is "the man", they're all riders of different disciplines and/or experienced industry people from a range of backgrounds - and my impression of everyone I've talked with at Kali is that none of them think mountain bikers are morons. just my 2c
  • + 1
 @iamamodel

That's what got me looking - the original invention on the ABC a while back.
  • + 1
 @gnarbar - So sorry, I was talking in general, not specifically about Kali. Now that I reread what I wrote, I can see it reads how you interpreted it, not how I meant it. My apologies to Kali.

I meant that, in general, the public aren't privvy to higher level information because so often it is dumbed down for us.
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  • + 1
 Graphs without axis units are useless...no frame of reference at all. I do like Kali helmets, though, they seem nice and light.
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  • + 4
 lol 1-0 mtbfraser
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  • + 1
 TOO much confusing technology shit for me,If it works better than most helmets then thats all I need.
  • + 4
 thats why you should pay entention in physics and tech studies Wink
  • + 18
 That's why you should pay attention in English...
  • + 1
 I know, I just wasn't bothered coming back to it.
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  • + 1
 i have a feeling that those pricks r gona break after the first few wipeouts.....
  • + 1
 Other manufacturers are doing it the same way. The helmet is designed to take one impact and thats it. The foam pyramids will be compressed after the impact and wont work the same again.
  • + 1
 I'd have to get a new one of these after every ride if that's the case lol Razz
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  • + 0
 yay Amy......nice hat, loving my Carbon Prana
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