Lance Armstrong's Confession

Jan 18, 2013 at 0:36
Jan 18, 2013
by Radek Burkat  
 
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"Did you ever take banned substances to increase your cycling performance?" - Yes

"Was one of those banned substances EPO?" - Yes

"Did you ever blood dope or use blood transfusions to enhance your cycling performance?" - Yes

"Did you ever use any other banned substances like testosterone, cortisone, human growth hormone?" - Yes

"In all 7 of your Tour de France victories did you use banned substances? " - Yes

Lance Armstrong's Confession

For the first time since cyclist Lance Armstrong was stripped of his seven Tour de France titles and banned from elite competition by the United States Anti-Doping Agency, he sits down for a no-holds-barred interview, with Oprah. For years, he's denied that he used banned substances to enhance his cycling performance. Will he finally come clean? Find out now.



Why Lance Armstrong Is Ready to Come Clean

For more than a decade, Lance Armstrong adamantly denied that he ever used banned substances—like erythropoietin (EPO), testosterone, cortisone or human growth hormone—to improve his cycling performance. Now, after admitting his guilt to Oprah, Lance reveals why he decided to finally tell the truth.



Lance Armstrong Reveals Details of His Doping Scheme

Code words. Private jets. Secret blood transfusions. For almost a decade, Lance Armstrong was involved in a systematic doping ring that spanned several countries. How did it work? Watch as Lance shares details and reveals which banned substances went into his cocktail.


Lance Armstrong's "Inexcusable" Attacks

After Emma O'Reilly, a former masseuse for Lance Armstrong's cycling team, told the media that a doctor backdated a cortisone prescription for Lance, the champion cyclist went on the attack. Lance sued Emma, even though he now says she was telling the truth. Watch as Lance reveals how his desire to control every outcome made him do "inexcusable" things. Plus, find out how he's trying to make amends.
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Why Lance Armstrong Says He Had to Dope to Win

Between 1999 and 2005, Lance Armstrong led the U.S. Postal Service Pro Cycling Team and, later, the Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team to the top of the podium at the Tour de France seven consecutive times. Find out why Lance believes he and some of his teammates had to dope in order to win.


Lance Armstrong's Reckless Behavior and Ruthless Desire to Win

Lance Armstrong opens up about his reckless behavior; his association with controversial Italian sports trainer and medical consultant, Dr. Michele Ferrari; and his flaws that were magnified by fame. Watch as he reveals how his desire to "win at all costs" and his arrogance made him willing to risk it all.


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648 Comments

  • + 193
 The big story from this is that he does not come across remorseful and the fact that for 20 years he sued and crushed people that would question his drug free racing. Based on that, he is now touted as the Greatest Cheat of all sports history, which enabled him to amass $120 million personal fortune.
  • + 54
 I would add to this though that all of those who were associated with him including team mates and those who he bullied who worked for him must have been addicted to the status and money of being associated with him. If you really want to be out of it you can quit. It is possible to quit diplomatically as well.

Probably it was better to be paid more and watch doping going on rather than be paid less and work for a small time team, so I find their arguments about he "forced us" etc a little bit crap even if he did apologise. If you don't like working for someone it is possible to quit.
  • + 113
 He sued newspapers and destroyed reporters who were just trying to report the truth. If you cheat, fine. You get caught, come clean. But to continue the hoax for 20 years, using his money and power to bully others is brutal.
  • - 74
 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociopathy

As long as we let this people rule other peoples live this world sucks. They can be screened preschool and have a lifelong career as vegigardeners.

What a worthless and wasted live, Mr. Armstrong!
  • + 63
 Yea his counter attacks is one truly big thing he deserves to be condemned for, but it is all between him and the people he sued, eventualy friends and members of families of sued people. His conscience? Between him and God if you like.

Dope subject is a ridiculous affair between what is banned and what is not, then methods and substances that are not banned are shitty enough to already make that sport sick. It's a one big farse. Cheating is about breaking the rules, breaking the formula, nothing else - but rules are sick themselves. The level to which this and many other sports have been pushed, is way beyond healthy arrangement. And who is to blame? Us looking for cheap entertainment and us fine with watching commercials in between, eager to get snacks and drinks advertised in many of them. It is the money of big companies wanting to advertise their products to us that fuel the development of sports. There is no other reason they do it at the end of the day - the publicity value. Sport in it's foundation is about recreation, physical, mental and spiritual improvement of one self - most professionals sports have very little to do with that since a long time.

Before anyone points a finger at Lance or whoever else, and talk what is cheating and that he/she wishes everyone was honest ad that he looks for truth in life - zoom out and review who you are. If we would practice sport more and be more active in it instead of passively watching others doing it and getting way over excited, things would look different.

The art of waking up...
  • + 302
 He didn't do anything that anyone else wasn't doing... he just did it better. All the rest is people crying in their beers. Bottom line, Lance Armstrong did more for cycling and more for cancer than just about anyone alive and damn sure more than anyone on Pinkbike...
  • + 80
 I have a level of sympathy for him, because lets face it, during the 90s the whole field was doping. If you win a race whilst on drugs and the whole rest of the field is also on drugs that doesn't make you more of a criminal than the rest of them. In fact I don't think it makes you a criminal at all - because that's what you had to do in order to compete back then. He was just playing the game. And after recovering from testicular cancer the fact that he went on to win more races at the world level is still incredible to be fair. He's an amazing athlete.

What disgusts me though (as many other people have already said) is that he denied it for so long and sued people who were telling the truth. That is where it went too far. Hopefully all the court money gets returned, but once that's happened I don't see what else he did wrong now that he has finally come clean.
  • + 76
 @bblb

everyone he inspired, he has let down

You say he has achieved great things for cycling and cancer, but it was all built on a lie, so what's it worth now?

I'd rather take inspiration/hope/motivation from somebody who has integrity and honesty thankyouverymuch
  • + 19
 A pretty good troll really, $120 million fortune as a result. Well played
  • + 53
 The only people I take issue with are the dozen cheats turned witnesses... These cowards made careers of doping every bit as much as Armstrong but hid in his shadows while his 'bullying' hid their crimes as much as his. We're supposed to condemn Armstrong but applaud Hincapie when they both did the same thing? That Lance was more successful and chose not rat out his teammates while Hincapie was mediocre and happy to talk once his career was coming to a close is supposed to make him a worse doper somehow? Not in my book, sorry...
  • + 49
 @iainmac - Really, you've spoken with all the people he inspired? Personally, I found Lance inspirational and I find him no less inspirational for having doped. I know dozens of people who feel every bit the same way. The only people who seem to be upset are the Lance haters, those who think they have some moral highground, and kids like you who were barely old enough to remember the last time Lance did anything of note.

The reality is, Lance DID survive cancer and come back to become one of the most dominant cyclist EVER, period. Doping changes nothing... You name a legendary cyclist, they doped. Merckx... doper. Coppi... doper. Anquetil... doper. Thévenet... doper. Zoetemelk...doper. Moser, Fignon, Yates, Roche, Pantani, Riis, Simeoni, Zabel, Zulle, Ulrich, Basso, Kloden, Beloki... ALL DOPERS. This idea that Lance somehow invented doping or invented sophisticated doping is just a joke... Look at the Festina Affair, look at Telekom, USPS was no worse at all.
  • - 9
 @iainmac - "I'd rather take inspiration/hope/motivation from somebody who has integrity and honesty thankyouverymuch"

Then you have a serious search to do. And even if you find that person, be never sure that some journous won't find some small poo in his closet, then blow it to a size of a jobby, then people reading about it will take it, add water and spray all over the place making sure every one has smelled it. And even if it wasn't a poo, it turned out to be a French mold cheese, it is irrelevant - the leeches and scavengers have fed on created hype

Problem with good and truth is that it enjoys silent and hidden places so it gets very little coverage... and turth is boring. Lies and can be coloured in all possible ways and give brain pasture to masses. So Instead you can try to search for good in everything around you, in every situation. Every smallest piece of it is worth it, even if it resides in a pile of crap.
  • + 8
 Personally, I think there should be the UCI: Unlimited... with no drug testing, anything goes... now that would be entertaining =)

But as for Lanny, still a legend in my books, just think of it like music, would the Rolling Stones be taken out of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame just because they engaged in a little "doping" in their day?
  • - 12
 @N-60 Unlimited Cortizon Inc? That would be great, no more meaningless names of banks and other "huge" companies you never heard of as sponsors.

Oh my goodness Amerigo Zanardi from Pharma-Tec goes through! But few members of Astra Zeneca are regrouping, they reach for refreshments and we can soon expect them pursuing the runner! In the mean time we go to the pitstop where German Bayer has troubles with blood transfusion, this years TDF isn't not looking good for them, quite a bad start!
  • - 2
 Still a hero.
  • + 22
 The dope man that beat cancer. Beating cancer is a beautiful thing, Lying for all these years about being a dope man, thats not what a hero does.
  • + 8
 WAKIdesigns and badbadler, your attitude are disgusting... basically "ye lets cheat and win and fool people because it doesnt matter, people likes us anyway because we get money to cancer" .............

i got zero respect for cheaters.
  • + 21
 I don't care what he did, I still hold him in very high esteem. He's an inspiration to me. If I'm pounding up a hard hill and am thinking of walking it, I just remember that "pain is temporary, quitting lasts forever." Every time I say that to myself, I make it the f*ck up that hill.
  • + 6
 mnorris- that is hardly a quote unique to Armstrong. Plenty of other people to look to for inspiration

"Shut up legs" Smile Now that is more like it*

*Lets up Jens never gets caught or a lot of cyclists will be properly disillusioned
  • - 6
 reqq

I never said it is good to cheat, I admit I made fun of what if... Zero respect for cheaters - please tell me what sport are you into, because all i can tell you is that if sport gets pumped enough with money, then the athletes in it divide for those who got caught cheating and those who didn't. When desire for being the best and pursue of success overcomes what is right and healthy, when money become drivign force instead of passion - all sorts of things happen. Then if it goes on for long enough, more and more are involved and the whole thing gets rotten inside out. In such sport as road cycling or football it is not an issue of: a clean guy races doped guy, and doped one wins by a fraction of a second. You have to dope and cheat to be able to keep up with being in the first league at all.

So basicaly you should have no respect to any top athlete. I like to believe those people are clean, I believed till that vid that Lance was, however this vid hasn't changed much in my attitude towards him. Who knows, what if Phelps will suddenly get caught on something else than weed? Should it take away all those incredible years of struggle to rise to the top?

It's about to what extent can you take yourself without loosing other things important to you. If winning is all there is, if fans look nearly only after the current winner (and they fkn do even in our sport) - then this is the way it is. Things are not simple, we are part of everything whether we want it or not. So if you want MTB to stay healthy, ride more, be active, don't watch it go by no matter how entertaining it is.
  • + 1
 comments should be disabled for this subject.. no one wants to get pin pointed and banned like Armstrong.... i can only forecast that this could get out of hand quickly
  • + 50
 What the interview doesn't mention (so far) is that these drugs don't turn you into the best athlete in the world - they're the icing on the cake. If people think they're a shortcut to the top of elite level sport then they are completely wrong. The right "cocktail" of drugs will allow you to train harder, and more often. You have to put MORE work in if you want to use "drugs" effectively - it irritates me when cat5 roadies think that taking "drugs" will turn them into Lance Armstrong. It won't .
Every single professional athlete at the highest levels take "drugs" - this is nature of the game. It isn't cheating if the others are doing the very same thing.

As others have mentioned, Armstrong didn't create the system (pro road cycling) - he played their game and won. The bullying argument is a bit ridiculous too; when someone attacks your livelihood you have to defend yourself - if you don't you're going to get shit on. That's just how the world works.

This has never been about going after Armstrong for "cheating" - it has been a vendetta. A vendetta that has enabled a lot of people to make a lot of money. Certain people are getting very nice promotions and the extra paychecks that they bring. This has nothing to do with "cleaning the sport up" - it all comes down to money.
It seems to me a lot of people that seem to be "happy" about this situation are the people that enjoy a "tabloid dirt". They can point their finger and feel better about themselves by taking their perceived moral high ground.
  • + 8
 Tell me something new.... All big athletes takes Drugs .- USA,CHINA,RUSSIA has the so many metals in the Olympic games because it uses hi tech Drugs But hey Lance Armstrong is a Great Athlete with or with out Dope. This is the reason that i love Dh and Free ride because the main element you need to win its Guts....
  • + 31
 I kind of respect the guy a little more for not showing remorse in this interview because clearly he didn't have any, and if he did it would not have been genuine. I respect him more for coming out and plainly admitting he's an A-Hole than trying to act all sorry for what he did.
  • + 2
 @bblb, so you take no issue with the fact that he lied about it for so long?
  • + 7
 Regardless of doping he was and likely always will be the best road cyclist to be born. Any of the top riders of his time were part of some kind of doping , yet he was still the best , even if the whole field was clean including him he still would of been the best.
  • - 15
 Negproping hunt on everyone with either positive or objective views on Armstrong - I sense... the demand for an ultimate and definite condemnation - I sense...
  • + 5
 To show comment hell with you waki!!!
  • + 19
 To me is simple, if they dont want athletes to dope, then make races for normal people.
3200 km in 20 days is a little too much. Out of the 220 signups maybe 10 dont dope so why crucify only one?
  • + 4
 watching the interview i came to the conclusion that Lance is Lance. I think expecting a different Lance, remorseful, introspective or whatever is not realistic. As is obvious by his defiance and denying for so long. imo doping was not his downfall. it was his ego. simple as that. take lance out of the pic. what now? what will be learned from all this to make a change in the culture? I'm usually obtimistic but.. probably zero.
  • + 15
 he may be a jack-ass but in my view his 7 tour victorys are good. As far as the money he made......lots of people made money off of him as well.A far as the lying goes........no worse than any politician, and we keep voting them in.

If I was him, I would take all this negitive and turn it into a positive. Use all the experience that he gained in professional cycling and use it to go after the corrupt UCI and finaly clean this sport up and potentialy....get some cred. back:-)
  • + 19
 the crazy thing is that even though he doped his brains out and took drugs cheated etc whatever he still worked his dick off! I know some, not all, people seem to think that even if you take these magic drugs you can just sit on the couch and it makes you a better cyclist and stronger over night. But in reality you still have to train harder than anyone in the world. SO despite what he did I still think hes pretty insane, even to just ride a tour drugged up or not is still a feat of strength! Also Id like to see what would happen had they drug tested the top 5 or 10 in every tour back in those days. But the really crazy thing to me is that road cycling is sooooooo stupid lol. I dont even know why i commented. But thats my 2 cents.
  • + 3
 Motoracer31 that was the best comment Ive seen. thank you for your realistic view. yes he is insane...i did some biz with the guy...what a dick... and he burned me too. road cycling is sooooo stupid...I guess it is a one ball sport too.LMFAO
  • + 1
 Karma works in strange ways , he cheated , lied and ruined people to keep his image ' clean ' , karma took a nut for punishment.

Spoken in a Rob Warner fashion " How does he sit down with balls that... oh , right ".
  • + 0
 I have not watched this and refuse to watch read or listen to any thing this cheat has to say. On the other hand I recently read a book by Paul Kimmage called Rough Ride and although not being a roadie it was a great read. Mr Kimmage is a former cyclist who told of what he saw, the cheating, the drug related deaths and the thruth as he knew it on Armstrong. As a cycling Journalist he was persecuted by legal threats from Armstrong but kept to his word. If you want a hero out of this he is one.
  • + 5
 He's a bit of a dick really- yeah he's honest, and so what, he admited what he had done was wrong. But if someone had just smashed your time on a DH run at the world champs and won the cup 7 times in a row then told you that they had been doping then you wouldn't be happy with them, would you? they were honest but they had still done something inexcusably unfair and deceitful- honesty or not he's still the world biggest cheats
  • + 10
 I think it was protour who said that Aron Gwin got lance into drugs...
  • + 23
 From reading the comments on here, it seems like Lance still has lots of people fooled. He didn't just dope like others did, he forced teammates to dope, sued people who accused him of doping, bullied Trek Bicycles into killing the Lemond brand, and personally profited millions from Livestrong while putting nothing towards a cancer cure. It's not an exaggeration to say he destroyed peoples lives. I almost forgot about his bribes to cover up positive drug tests. Lance isn't just one of the biggest assholes in the bike world, he is one of the biggest assholes on the planet, and he still isn't being completely honest.
  • + 8
 He should have NEVER confessed to anything........he should have just laid low,......chillaxed in his Mansion - and said fuck everybody
  • + 1
 I am all for legalizing PED's. Keep it all out in the open. The more above board and regulated they can be, the better . If it's not in the closet, then maybe R+D could make it even safer for the general public. I do believe that the top 10 teams in the world were all doing it so yes... ALL THINGS EQUAL ....IMO Lance still won. The only problem I have with his actions , as previously stated by others, was his level of intimidation towards jouranlists, other cyclists and Newspapers. The worst was the way he used his cancer as a shield and how after he beating cancer " he could never put his life in danger by putting that crap in his body." For that , I think he may have some Karmic retribution coming his way. ALSO... Bottom line is , that he would have never come forward with his Mea Culpa had he not been cornered and his empire and public life wasn't crumbling before him.
  • + 25
 "You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
  • + 27
 So protour, did lance get Aaron into drugs? did lance secretly control the cia? is Barack obama actually Lance with Nutella smeared on his face? does the fact that lance's bike frame's rear triangle forms a triangle mean that he is in cahoots with the illuminati? is the world even real?

All this and more wil be revealed in Protours new "guide to the world we live in- who really runs planet lance" on all major news channels. also available as a paperback in all good book stores
  • + 1
 I think doping is inexcusable, but I also think they should have a race series to see which team can come up with the best, most effective doping formula. It seems from lance's comment about 'levelling the playing field' that all the top riders are pretty much equal, and the only way to win is doping, and doing it better than the other teams. He we had a 'clean' race series AND 'doping' race series this would all be so trivial... Doping science is now at such a level, let them be the guinea pigs for the drugs that may create the ultimate human race. His actions however, are still inexcusable in a 'clean' race series. Bring on wiggins... The TRUE ultimate roadie.....
  • + 0
 @Sir Wonky:
The Fed is after him for drug offence, he will be sued his ass off by the corps that he cheated and spend the next twenty years in fear of going to jail and will loosing his money.
The evidence is overwhelming - he had to preemptively confess and he will play the blamegame and so will his ex-chumps.

Doping, cheating, lying, embezelment is wrong, everyone w i l l get caught, judicial procedure will follow. Dont fool yourself Wonky and dont be fooled by scum like Lance - this sorry excuse of a hb is still not telling the whole truth. He hasnt come clean. Fool me once, fool me twice...

I wont buy from companies financing roadteams - if the money ebbs - those excesses are a thing from the past.
  • + 3
 @WAKIdesigns I might agree with your comment if it was truly something between him and the people he worked so hard to discredit. However, this was a public fight, a series of legal fights that he perpetrated in the public sphere. He took it beyond the personal and involved those who chose to read, watch or listen to the lies he spewed. He made it fair game for others to critique and criticize his lack of moral character.

As for the doping, I am somewhat ambivalent. True, it seems that doping is rampant in road cycling. Does that make it acceptable, appropriate? Does the UCI have some 'coming clean' to do as well? Do I really care enough to get bent out of shape over it? Does it create an image of cycling as a great way of life? Does the doping detract from Armstrong's wins? Did his success on the bike and over cancer enable him to do fabulous things for cancer research? My responses to these questions are varied. I admire his work ethic, tenacity, his success on the bike, his victories, the Live Strong foundation.

But I find it challenging to find much respect for the personal character he's exhibited throughout. Even this confession, which I haven't deigned to watch, has gaping holes in it according to Andreu's wife, Betsy (www.npr.org -select Listen then Morning Edition, Lance Armstrong Confesses) and he's going to see a raft of lawsuits (www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/01/16/169518905/armstrongs-confession-looms-and-court-cases-await) as a result of his past actions. This is a hell of his own making.
  • + 2
 Totally correct Protour
  • + 1
 i disagree with the "bullied" and "forced" remark, protour. we are talking about "adults" here. we're not talking about a playground my kid plays in. these are people who knew the consequences to all their actions. the trek issue is so weak to me. what is that? i know. greed. what do we gain from lance on oprah? nothing. what do we learn from this? alot less than nothing. there's just simply more important things going on than this crap. my 2c
  • - 1
 Lance was a big hero in my eyes and apart of my cycling growing up. No matter what people say about him being a horrible person for cheating and what not he's still a great cyclist and an amazing human being being able to overcome cancer and to create a 400+ million dollar organization for cancer awareness. Leave the guy alone!!! What half the people don't realize is that the top 50 riders of the Tour De France for years all did some sort of performance enhancing drugs. I also bet a lot of riders are still doping today. They'll continue to find and bust people for years. Lance is a great guy I give him credit for admitting to his flaws. Now continue on with life! Race clean.
  • + 1
 @epavichthesavage - preachin the hd truth.
  • + 4
 OK, so let's focus on what good can come from this. Hopefully he has legitimately decided to clean up his act, make amends, and help where he can. A guy with his knowledge of the system can be a big help in efforts to clean up the sport. It's finally time to move on, and do something worthwhile. Respect should be focused on the man he is now, not the man he was. Right now, he still is not worthy of any respect, but maybe if he works hard to make amends, he might be able to salvage a shred of respect, and use the second half of his life in a way that he can be truly proud of. You're not dead yet Lance, still time to turn it around and do something good.
  • + 3
 Lance doesn't think his accomplishments were all built on lies. He took what he learned from his battle with cancer and put it into cycling, he said when he was diagnosed with cancer he would do anything to beat it; take every advantage, and that's what he did with cycling. He did the same thing any of the other top riders were doing, he just did it best. Of course he'd destroy newspapers and reporters that would try to come out with the truth, he didn't want to take the fall for everyone else just because he was the one who was winning and on top. Lance won those tours, and he earned it.
  • + 2
 I'm tired of the 'level playing field' and everyone else was doing it rhetoric. He had access and the money to get better drugs than anyone else, so no it wasn't a level playing field. For me the drugs aren't the deal breaker. Was is the deal breaker is the bullying, threats, legal action, and intimidation to silence anyone who dared tell the truth. Google some of these names: Greg and Kathy LeMond, Emma O'Reilly, Paul Kimmage, Mike Anderson, David Walsh, Betsy and Frank Andreu and there would be more. All of these people have had Armstrong and his team use their tactics to silence, hurt emotionally and financially and in some cases ruin careers. That is not on. His actions are utterly reprehensible and I'm glad former team mates gave evidence to USADA. There are 11 team mates in the USADA report and 15 other eyewitnesses (not heresay). He deserves eveything he gets and some I only feel sorry for his kids.

Also bare in mind the same administration that oversaw the drug taking (and yes they knew), oversee DH, XC etc all disciplines they don't care about because is doesn't bring in the money. It's funny ho mtb has gone backwards since it's heyday and you can put it down to the Lance factor. Sponsors pulled money out and stuck it into road cycling.

The Lance story is only one part there is so much more to come out involving the UCI and Tailwind Sports it will be an interesting 12 months.
  • - 1
 I feel like the man is being punished because he won. The entire field was taking drugs, just because Lance was the guy actually winning the races doesn't make him any more of a criminal. They were all taking basically the same drugs - EPO, testosterone ect and cutting the same corners. What makes him worse than the guy who finished second each year? What Lance did outside of the racing (the denial, the court cases) damaged a few careers - but f*ck that, worse things have happened. America dropped two Nuclear bombs on Japan. Japan turned out okay. Reporters need to be more like Japan Blank Stare
  • + 8
 That last sentence just 'nuked' any credibility your argument had...
  • + 1
 @Tom666 please read my first paragraph. I'm sure if it was your family being threatened, sued, publicly ridiculed, forced out of employment and had their income cut off you might think otherwise. Your last comment defies belief, Dresden is a functioning city again but did that make it right?
  • + 1
 Bro, I'm kidding about the Hiroshima thing - I just couldn't be bothered to conclude. I kinda lost track of where I was going and thought I'd slip Hiroshima in there, seeing as it's always such a fun topic of conversation tup
  • + 1
 @ WAKIdesigns - The justification you give is half-witted at the very best because it is also very simple to just do the exact opposite and ride to avoid being a posterboard for cheap thrills. That's just what yo said -- this Sport of Cycling is for getting a thrill and not much else. To begin your Day and come to a conclusion like that is pretty weak and not what Sports are about.

Lance Armstrong is the exception to every Rule that'd been and every Rule that'll come.

LA finally was forced to the reality one cannot eat Money. Last Fish: caught. Last River: poisoned. Last Tree: Cut.

f*ck Him & his newfound Short-Term Memory.
  • + 4
 Obviously no one is surprised by this. Much better way to spend all that money to get him to even consent to this would be giving Protour an interview on Oprah.
  • + 0
 If every cyclist who ended up in a road accident with a car, treated it like Armstong treated doping and the accusations, the cyclist would win every time!
  • + 1
 "Lance is it true that without using EPO and steroids during your Tour De France victories you would have spent 21 weeks of your life staring at other guy's arses in bike shorts? Yes Oprah."
  • + 2
 Get on a velonews forum or something, you will find many more sympathizers there.
  • + 0
 Merica to the core. Worlds strongest man style. That would be entertainment. Also have them be prisoners fighting to the death on pay per view.
  • + 2
 What's worse than a cheater with one testicle????

A lying, snitching, cheater with one testicle.




lol
  • + 5
 Jimmy saville!
  • - 2
 we are looking at this whole thing the wrong way. we should be looking at, look what drugs can do! it made Lance aamazingly strong and an unreal athlete. this could be like jason bourne shit.
  • + 1
 The thing is all of the top cyclists doped, but Lance must have been superior as he was still winning. We all know the TdF riders dope but Lance was an easy target. IMO I think he should be allowed to compete again.
  • + 1
 I just watched a full interview with him on Eurosport, to me he came clean, pieces above don't show the full picture, but well it doesn't take much to pick up the stone isn't it? People think stupidly that all sorts of famous people are moral examples, they should be those who are better than we are, those who show us the light. Then they appear to be average mortals just as everyone else (ndaaaaaaa) and they get this flattering revelation - he is no better than me! Yes, he is a piece of crap just like me, or worse! People want to throw stones not just because Lance lied, but because he has not to lived up to their expectations. This is and has always been a one big show for people who want to feel better about themselves, it is not about truly involved parties, it is about entertainment for the masses, a public trial with audience wanting sudden turn overs of a situation and ultimately someone's blood. Such behavious disgust me deep to the bone.

Just as I believed Lance was drug clean, now I have to have faith in humanity to not be that false and stupid, that not everyone on this bloody planet is a bigot seeking drama for his very own entertainment at the cost of someone else.

I don't give a bloody damn if you neg prop me, I will gladly go to "below threshold" sanitarium, because I am not here to find or meet a consensus - I am here to mould it, and I write it because i deeply believe that is the damn right thing to do.
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 Hey look Waki has written a huge and laboriously written paragraph, what a surprise! joking joking
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 A fssphotography, to say "you can quit" yeah, probably true, but what "working for Lance Armstrong" did for their resume, even now despite all this, is still going to be priceless. Whether you take from that as loyalty or the ability to maintain confidentiality are invaluable assets when put into context of the magnitude of this situation, let alone the experience gained, just from working with the man. None of those people wanted to quit, they were in it for the money, fame, resume and/or all of the above.
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 Off topic but as both a strenght trainner and some one who works in a hard practical job I'm starting too get sick of these old fashioned views towards so called (banned substances) with are so fraud upon by the sporting world, yes with excessive usage said products can be harmfull and cause side affect like in the case of testostrone but honestly Lance arm strong not only is in a current state of good health but these enchancements helped the man over come cancer and return too his form.... not trying too say the worlds ready too accept these products into the elite sporting worlds just yet but if the debate was open too study and trail surely we'd all benefit in the end.
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 @Protour You say: "personally profited millions from Livestrong while putting nothing towards a cancer cure." Are you and idiot? Do you know how many events in a year that Armstrong's presence to cycling events raised money for cancer? A Hell of a lot. His presence to these events raised millions upon millions of dollars a year.

Was he a cheater? Definitely but never say he did not contribute to cancer cure.

Protour, thanks for confirming to me that your a Moron.
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 Guys.
It's Protour.
♫ Don't-feed-the-troll ♫
Sing with me guys!
  • + 2
 Waki's first post, the one with around 60 positive reps, is spot on. I am a former college scholarship athlete, so I truly have been involved in, and love sports more than I can express. Having said that, seriously, sports have become way too serious in our society. These athletes are doing anything and everything in order to gain an edge, all in an attempt to increase their earning potential and overall perceived success.

Over the last five years or so, I've found myself watching less and less football, even though it is one of my favorite sports, simply because it's all turned into such a charade. There are like 40 different sports analysis shows that come on every day. Half of these show less of the actual sporting event's highlights, than they do the analysts arguing back and forth about their opinions on the games. An athlete has 7 fantastic years as a pro, has one off year, and is deemed a bust, doomed to never succeed again. I watch it happen every single year, and it's just weird. Here today, gone tomorrow. Your life's work was JUST touted as absolutely amazing, but at 26 years of age, you didn't have your best season, so your career is now over. The analysts rip so hard on the athletes, when half of them didn't even play the damn sport, or played and didn't have anywhere near the success those they talk about have. It just seems that when every professional sport is beginning to have its "cheater" exposed to the public, and the advertising, revenue and over-analysis means more than the fun of sport, maybe we've gone too damn far. This stuff used to be way more about fun, or maybe I'm just mistaken and confused....(to be continued)
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 Even in society outside of sports, people are just seemingly way more about money, beating out the next man, showing off (Facebook is rife with this), and generally one-upping everything, by any means necessary. Our planet is sick with so-called progression/advancement, to the point that we aren't appreciating what we have, nor taking care of ourselves. I often think we all need to reflect more on why we're doing what we're doing, and start focusing on the things that really matter in life, like family, health, altruism, respect for nature/the planet/life, fun and so forth. I think it's all tied together, and isn't just about issues with professional sports. Seems like there is just a global issue with our species, and this unnecessary desire to push further, without ever stopping to enjoy where we are right now. For real though.
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 @z05m just remember the Livestrong Foundation is for cancer awareness as I understand about 10% maximum goes to cancer research. Start doing some reading on Livestrong and it may change you opion slightly. Armstrong was also paid by Livestrong to make speaking appearances, something I thought would have and should have been done gratuitously.
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 @ WAKI & hereticskeptic, I agree! Money ruins all. Ego has yet to provide a satisfactory result. Play for the sake of fun, physical and mental improvement. Help others along the way.

I personally couldn't give a rats A$$ what the so called "professional" team sports are up to this weekend or any other. It's time to RIDE! The rest of you 'mericans can sit on your butt, yell at the TV, and numb yourselves to the reality of millions of $ being squandered on less than respectable endeavors.
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 I'm tired of all this lame bike 'drama'. Can we just ride our bikes with our best friends, crack open a beer and dig some trail already?
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 Is beer classed as doping? Maybe you feel less pain if you are drunk when riding?
  • + 34
 My mates certainly ride better after 2 or 3 beers..... they told me in Whistler "It just makes me more relaxed, and looser"...

That screams doping ! hahaha
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 I dont know about riding anything technical, but it would be worth it for enduro it definitely makes time go a lot faster!
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 Unfortunately as our sport becomes more and more mainstream, we all have to deal with this "lame bike drama". One of the reasons I love this sport is that the community is so small & tight knit. I can't walk into a sporting goods store and get a 2.5 Minion or tell a friend of mine how I destroyed a couple berms and expect him to respond about him scrubbing jumps. It just doesn't work like that and I like it that way.
  • + 1
 roadies dont know how to use tools...can they even lift a tamper?
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 Let just cut off his other nut and call it good, k!
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 Would of made a bit more sense if he came out about this on his own. I mean Oprah? Really?
  • + 0
 I hope he gets the shit sued out of him.
  • + 5
 not a lance fan but he's better than the majority of pro athletes, don't see them starting up livestrong
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 Let's just keep the doping out of road/triathlon etc and leave the dope for us mountain bikers - nothin better than a blunt and some burly trails Wink
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 OK: What the f*ck is with this media player???
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 Livestrong is a for profit corporation that donates 10% of their revenue to cancer research... Not much of a charity if you ask me.
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 "Lance is it true that you used vaseline and other lubricants to smear all over your cock and ball to reduce the insane amount of friction bike shorts produce on a three week endurance race? Yes Oprah."
  • + 1
 he used assos... get them bits tingling :/
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 If you use extra stregnth tiger balm, you'll ride allot faster:-)
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 EllioMoose The foundation does provide money for research, but it's main focus is to provide treatment for children and people who cannot afford it. Not fund research
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 Wait One minute are talking about the same Tour where racers would smoke cigs while ridding?
I think so truthe be told Lance was using Test and EPO before they were testing for it.
bikenoob.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/smokers1.jpg?w=500
also everyone with a judgment on Lance head on over to youtube and search for Bigger Faster Stronger crack a beer or o coffee whatever and watch all 10 videos then judge the man.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApmX8Q0vqKI
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 Wow a top road cyclist took drugs who would of thought that happens in road racing.....
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 Open your eyes. Doping also exists in MTB.
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 open your eyes...doping exists in every sport around the world......even on a non professional level
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 Top enduro riding caught at Megavalanche and serving a doping ban:

wideopenmag.co.uk/news/17368/doping-hits-the-mountain-bike-scene

No rider named but lots of speculation online...
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 Yes, imaging that, a pro roadie doping. Who wudda thunk it........ I image a large majority of professional XC racers are doing the same thing. Sad
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 Juicers Gonna Juice $$$$$
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 next question, who cares? I love watching races at impossible speeds, if I want to see clean I'll watch cat 1
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 doping in downhill??
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 well I meant ridiculous climbing speeds in the giro.... I can't ever see someone doping in dh
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 Use to race for Trek, came out of no where, dominates races based primarily on substantially more pedalling power than everyone else, nah we luv ya Gwinny just jokes.
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 Doping in MTB will be cocaine.. huge rush and huge balls, realistically though. Any sport there will be doping, when I played travel hockey kids were using dope (or what they paid for thinking it was dope) when we were kids.. 12-13 yrs old. A lot of people will do anything to win
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 @born-to-ride my eyes are open and when did I say it wasn't in mtb?? Its rampant in road racing look at all the top people that get caught off there bins on drugs.
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 The real question is : who isn't taking banned substance in professionnal road cycling ? There is a lot of money to win, no one to blame
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 Bradley Wiggins, who needs drugs when you have badass mutton chops (Thats Side Burns for you on the other side of the pond).
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 LMAO... As if Wiggins and UK Postal were riding clean! That was a good laugh, thanks for that!
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 Yes, there are people to blame. The cyclists and the teams are to blame. The organisation is to blame. To answer your question, who isn't taking banned substances? You only have to look at Team Sky and their stance.
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 You mean how they were happy to ride several individuals with histories of doping to a Tour title before summarily dismissing them for nothing more than honestly admitting their pasts... yes, there's an example to be followed. You kids are funny throwing your blind support behind Wiggins, it's like watching people buy into Lance's victories all over again.
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 So before they admitted it then the team didn't know is what that first statement reads as. "Team sky had riders who had doped and kicked them off when they admitted to it". What team wouldn't you expect to do that?

You only have to look at the times on climbs and power outputs to realise that these people, todays tour riders, are human, and not dopers.

You might also want to have a look at the advances in doping testing before you make remarks like that again.
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 You might want to have a look into the advancements in PEDs over the last few years.... It's rife in all professional sports where lots of money is involved.
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 This is relevant to @badbadleroybrown:

Wiggins was asked what his response was to people—particularly on social media such as Twitter—who questioned whether the performances they saw in the Tour were free of doping.

Wiggins’ reply:

“I say they’re just f*cking wankers,” Wiggins said. “I cannot be doing with people like that. It justifies their own bone idleness because they can’t imagine applying themselves to do anything in their lives.

“It’s easy for them to sit under a pseudonym on Twitter and write that sort of shit,” Wiggins added, “rather than get off their own arses in their own lives and apply themselves and work hard at something and achieve something. And that’s ultimately what counts. C**ts.”
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 @will-quake I take it that wasn't put through his team's PR filter...
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 Wiggins has wanted to be Tour Champ since he was 8, he has dedicated his life to getting the yellow jersey an has worked endlessly in approving all aspects of his ability, then with an exeptionally talented team around him all focused on getting one rider to the front and with those talented riders making big sacrafices to help him, he achieved his dream..... ..........that is how you get to be the best and wear the yellow jersey... not by taking drugs. Bradley Wiggins deserves the respect he gets, Armstrong is nothing but cheat.
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 @dbox123 Armstrong denied the use of doping for many years, so why should Wiggins speak the truth? He isn't .. he is using doping as well, but in his mind it is not called doping. If you want to like roadcycling, you have to like doping. Cycling fans in countries like the Netherlands, Belgium, France, Italy and Spain have known it for years that this was going on. But they denied it and accepted it. It has become a problem since newcomers like the USA, UK, Germany etc. entered the scene. For the fans in those countries it was a shock.

That is why I am not a roadcycling, cyclocross or XC fan. I don't like the scene. Come on man: SHAVING YOUR LEGS?? HAHAHA! They are all twisted, troubled people!
BTW: I don't like soccer and tennis either (Doping and match fixing!)
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 I dont believe Wiggins is clean either unfortunately. Paul Kimmage who is one of the most informed and best cycling journalists out there was on Armstrongs case for years. He was right all along and suffered many personal attacks from Armstrong. He is very knowledgeable about doping in cycling. Even on an amatuer level doping is still rife. Kimmage's quote below is in diret response to the quote above from Wiggins.

"Kimmage’s issue with the response is that Wiggins, who was so frank in the past about the doping question, is in a position as leader of the Tour de France where he should expect to have questions about the subject, and should be able to speak equally frankly now.

“I don’t recognise the Wiggins now, compared to the guy I interviewed in 2007 to when he was sent out of the Tour,” he said. “I can’t compare these two guys as their responses are completely the opposite. I don’t understand what has happened. I don’t know how you can lead the Tour de France and not speak out about doping, yet speak out in the past so openly. There’s also a completely about-turn from Wiggins on his response to Armstrong, when compared to his previous stance on anti-doping.

Read more: www.velonation.com/News/ID/12357/Kimmage-disappointed-in-Wiggins-and-Team-Sky-over-transparency.aspx#ixzz2ILWuUdtl

www.cyclingnews.com/news/kimmage-unconvinced-by-sky-and-wiggins
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 For me when you have big money involved in the sport, doping is just a way to live. It's dirty, but part of the deal. So I don't blame guys like Lance Armstrong or Bradley Wiggins. Just remember what Bode Miller said about doping... haters can hate, but the reality is that this sports are just about TV show for sponsors !
  • + 5
 How dare you. The only thing that won me the tour was my facial hair. Stop with the slander!
  • + 2
 They should just lift the ban on doping completely, people would figure out on their own that it is bad when athletes heads would exlode in the middle of a race, that I would like to see!
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 @samsemtex if you realized the flaws in Kimmages argument you would understand that this past tour has had a ton of the top riders out with crashs, bans, and being sick. Its really hard to say how good a team and rider are when the rest of the top 5 riders are not there.
  • + 0
 "Lance isn't it true that you need to dope to overcome the restriction to blood flow caused by wearing compression clothes during exercise ? Yes Oprah because all medical professionals say that tight clothing helps muscle recovery after exercise and inhibits performance during exercise."
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 The only thing that's surprising is : US people seems falling from high. Or it's just how french medias show it... I was sure that Armstrong takes illegal subsances since 2001, and all US people were saying : "French are just jealous of his results", as UK's says now for Wiggins
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 im pretty sure we can all come to the conclusion that hes a fucking dick and a cheat
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 This is the worst thing happened to cycling. That was very hard to watch Lance confess...
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 Are you kidding? Lance was barely phased by the questions, showed no remorse and gave nothing more away than there was already huge evidence for.

Talking about the people, the methods, the tests, the uci, and all the other things lacking from his "confession" ... now that would have been hard to watch for those who love cycling
  • + 0
 @BeardlessMarinRider
i think what Apostt is getting at is how it was hard for us, as people, to watch what for me personally was a childhood hero admit to the lies and scandals he so desperately tried to cover up, no matter how despicable he needed to be. its sad because this is what has happened to cycling, this is what could possibly be the sports future, and that is a tragic sight indeed...
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 If you ever believed Pharmstrong was winning clean then you were only fooling yourself. If you hold him as a hero despite the constant bullying and legal action against anyone who breathed the wrong way towards him (way before any confessions) then again you were only fooling yourself.

There has been plenty of evidence of LA as a very poor human being well before the past few weeks hence why I struggle to see why anyone should find this surprising/ depressing/ hard to to watch.
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 What does him being a dick have anything to do with him inspiring people. He beat cancer and continued to win, doping or not (BTW everyone else was too) he was a great cyclist who boosted the popularity of cycling and made it 'cool' to fight cancer. How many kids, before the Livestrong organization was started, wanted to wear something showing they supported the fight against cancer? Very few. See the problem everyone has is that they can't cope with the fact the while Lance is a jerk, his actions, both bad and good, did things to better society. Yeah he sued some people, and perhaps 'ruined' a couple people's lives financially, but he also helped better the lives of cancer patients and his ability to promote the cause will leave a lasting impact on the world for years to come.

In recap, yes he's an ass, yes he cheated, yes he lied to the public for years and sued people for reasons he knew were wrong, but the world is better off because of it. So to all of you saying he's not a hero, I say that even despite his horrible actions, he still is.
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 ^ He's not the hero we need, he's the hero we deserve. Razz
  • + 0
 "Lance is it true that bull horns and aerobars are better for power and aerodynamics and to overcome how stupid drop bars are you have to dope yourself up on EPO ? Yes."
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 I feel sorry for the people that during the LA era rode clean and got passed by on sponsorship or team selection because they weren't competing on a level field. I'd love to see LA put his fame and money into setting up a foundation to support grass roots cycling and put something back into the sport that he stole from. I'm sure there are loads of really talented cyclist out there who can't afford a decent bike and therefore don't get the opportunities that possibly less talented but more afluent riders get.
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 Don't feel sorry, none of them rode clean
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 Of course some people rode clean. Unfortunately they were way way down the order or maybe not on tour at all. There are plenty of talented riders out there who refused to take drugs and as a result got nowhere. I'd imagine it was hard to even turn pro without taking drugs though.
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 THANK YOU!... this is the first time i have heard anyone say this... there were a lot of riders of that era who never got a chance. There WERE loads of great riders who had their sport stolen and money stolen. anyone who says "they all cheated", or that "whatever, Lance was still the best" don't what they f*ck they are talking about. the drugs COMPLETELY changed the results. the fact is that we will never really know who the champions are of that era, we only know who was the most willing to damage their health and risk their lives to have power and make people think that they were cool... and for sure, many athletes who would make great riders never get the financial support to take it very far... in the last three years i have had the chance to work with young riders riders in Slopestyle and to see these guys compete with passion and intergrity is something that as been missing from professional road racing for a long time...
  • + 2
 Saw an interview with some racer from that era who essentially decided "I don't want to dope, so I'm going to quit pro cycling." I think he was on US postal the year before lance joined.
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 "Lance is it true that having lots of close ratio gears on a retarded shifting system attached to your breaks neccessitates the need to do drugs to cope? Yes."
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 Who else dopes then in MTB? We know lots of people must/have? Who is the Enduro rider who was caught doping recently? Doping is cheating, my problem is that people are cheating themselves in the end and are probably very stupid.
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 wideopenmag.co.uk/news/17368/doping-hits-the-mountain-bike-scene

No rider named but lots of speculation online...

singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/enduro-rider-caught-doping

The governing body should name and shame, why protect them? It saves the speculation which may well be aimed at the wrong guy.
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 Was the person banned? If so, see who's suddenly not showing up.
  • - 2
 Isn't electric suspension going to be the dope of MTB?
  • + 7
 If you mean beer, curry and spliffs, then guilty as charged. Although I'm a reformed man these days as the weed over is too strong and the curry sucks.....
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 @BDKR- if you read the article, the doping results were from a race in 2011, the results confirmed in December, and not released until September of 2012... after the racer had an opportunity to race a full season, then was banned from racing for 6 months which, conveniently, corresponds to the 'off season'. No punishment really, other than being stripped of results and points, I assume from the 2011 season.
  • + 1
 And crucially not named! What kind of punishment is that???

If you believe the rumours of who the culprit is then even their employer is currently not aware. Check the bike manufacturers FB page...

Also, if the rumours are correct then this rider profited hugely from being allowed to race all 2012!
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 @reverend - Yeah, I went back and read it after commenting.

Pretty ridiculous actually.

I still think MTB needs to get the 4uck away from the UCI or any other sanctioning body that would condone this.
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 I say let's keep the doping in the mountain biking community so we can all just blaze one on some pristine trails Wink
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 where do you draw the line? EPO? Steroids? Creatine? Whey protein supplements? Multi-vitimins? Wheat grass? I bet for a lot of people on this thread, if the cops asked you if you smoked something that was not tobacco, unless they caught you with an ounce you'd say no officer sir i certainly do not and never have and if I did it was at a party and i didn't inhale. why because it is a stupid law but you'd still get in trouble for it if you broke it. Lance basically did the same thing and got caught and publicly humiliated, only because out of the hundreds of other professional cyclist also doping he was still the best. And look at Oprah, one of the richest people on the planet, getting all serious, pretending she just wants to understand how he could do such a horrible thing. Bullsh*t, she's jumping on the media bandwagon (correction she is the bandwagon) and probably just made more during that interview than Lance has made in his career!

Lance Armstrong: One word answer please Oprah, yes or no, have you ever consumed dangerous amounts of Hydroxycut?
Oprah: Yes

Lance: Again one word answer, have you ever overdosed on carb blockers?
Oprah: Deep fried snickers

Lance: That's three words Oprah {serious face}
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 dude that's not the same, don't want to be an ass but seriously when "we" smoke dope we don't smoke to win a shit, just to get high! Not harm anyone else, but he did harm many pps!
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 i think you missed my point
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 Big Hit so right on the money there were so many moments that she did not look authetic. and yes she is making a killing on this all the classic news org are as well. You had me laughing so loud thanks I need that. Oprha has strugled with weight for years and has worked with some folks that have really helped. But hard truth it takes a bit of guts to stick with a program and it takes a will to train hard. Oprha is great but she is a whimp in sport and fitness. and cannot understand his mentality!
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 Did you tell Aaron Gwin? Is that why he left Trek? Protour wants to know.
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 good one, cheers Australia!!
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 Best drug ever........*adrenalin* and it is free and very easy to obtain in MTB so why cheating????
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 Hahahaha best comment so far
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 i wish the news would stop showing the clip of him riding an mtb!
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 I don't give too many shits about doping or lying. I don't care what he put into his own body or that he broke the rules of bike race. However, what really pisses me off is that he purposefully destroyed lives and careers to further his own personal wealth and fame. He actively tried to financially ruin people and destroy their reputation, and he did this by lying and suing. The doping and cheating is a side-story in my opinion. The ruined careers and lives are what matter.
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 I'm over it already
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 I've finally accomplished my dream of winning the same amount of Tours De France as Lance Armstrong. Zero.
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 Dream on buddy. And maybe educate yourself so you dont't look any more stupid.
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 Take the joke bro.
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 A little too late for the confessions, but better late than never. What if he nevr came clean?? We would be asking ourselves for years about his legitimacy in racing. I dont approve of his actions, but people need to stop and think how much money his foundation has raised for cancer, that is one thing that cannot be taken away from him, and people should not forget this.
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 Personally, I don't see the point in cheating. I'd get much more of a kick out of it and feel better knowing that I won fair and square rather than doing anything like what he did to win, knowing that it was all the training and effort I put in, rather than the help of drugs and other stuff to help.
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 Except..... you wouldn't win. Back then you couldn't win on bread and water. Not even Tyler Hamilton could finish with the lead groups until he doped himself.
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 I didn't say I would? I was just saying that I'd prefer to win fairly rather than cheating, I do downhill and not stuff like the Tour De France anyway... So I'd have no chance in that sort of stuff. I didn't want a rant..?
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 "I'd get much more of a kick out of knowing I won fair and square"

That's where I'm gonna have to call your bullshit mate. If you weren't taking performance enhancing drugs you wouldn't even qualify for the tour de france in the 90s because you wouldn't be good enough. So you could sit there on your high horse, but you would have no money, nobody would know who you are and you wouldn't be winning shit. You'd probably have to take your clean-non-doping-ass home to live with your parents. You probably wouldn't even be able to get a decent sponsor. I think everybody would rather win without the drugs - but that just isn't the reality.

It's a bit like somebody who has just managed to climb everest in record time and you're like "I would rather have done it using only one leg". I bet you would mate, but f*ck off could you. Wink
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 I'm not bull shitting? I'm on about these days in races I enter now for downhill? Saying that if I win, I feel good knowing I only did it through practice and stuff, and not drugs. Didn't want a huge argument about it or anything, I was just saying that I wouldn't feel as 'proud' or anything knowing that I cheated. I know cheating makes it more likely for you to win, but I don't see the point in it. That's just my opinion.
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 I get you motorcrosser and agree with you. First of all I would not like to see riders of top level being forced by sponsor pressure to start taking dope in order to win. I would not like our sport to go there and then see younger riders having thought that maybe they should try dope as well. Morality aside, it just ruins your body.

But what would you say if there was something like electronicaly controlled auto-balancing suspension for DH bikes and maybe ABS for the front wheel, all adding let's say less than 1kg of weight to the bike? What if we finaly get a reliable gearbox which already comes in a form of a closed entity, and after time you find out that someone has put an electric engine inside, which as a matter of fact can come in a very similar shape - all this speculation but perfectly probable.
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 @WAKI of course you know that we are not far from this.. at some point we are going to need to limit the technology in DH so that the bikes are not so advanced and out of reach that the sport costs too much and lesser pilots are winning because of superior machines... this is the fundamental damage that doping does in road and XC racing... it turns mules into race horses and destroyed the integrity of the sport...
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 hey motocrosser or whatever your name is... i was a pro rider of that generation in europe and in the USA and i raced clean and it feels damned good... when i go to interbike and see fans who supported me all those years ago i can smile, shake their hands and be proud instead of having to hide from them... so if you had ever been good enough to be a pro, yeah, you would have loved to have won fair and square, and you would have REALLY loved to beat dopers when you could... trust me... a whole lot of us feel good about what we were able to do not taking EPO or keeping silent about all the fucked up bullshit...
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 Yeah I didn't mean to put the 'R' in for Motocrosser, sorry. To everyone that for some reason is hating on me: All I was doing was stating my own opinion, I didn't want any arguments or anything!? I was literally just saying what I was thinking, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. So please, stop saying I'm 'bullshitting' when I'm not, as there really isn't any point in that and I wasn't bullshitting anyway. I don't see why all of you just turned on me for no reason at all? I'd never bother going onto anything to help me boost my performance through breaking the rules and cheating, as I personally don't like the idea of doing anything like that, I just want to give it my all by myself without any cheating. You guys (the ones who just clearly hate me) might be different and would go on drugs and cheat as you're fine with that, but I wouldn't. I'm not going to bother replying now as I only commented to share my opinion, didn't want everyone turning against me and everything. Just calm down, yeah? :/
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 eriksaun - I was indeed going for something deeper with my comment. I would like some of you to consider the fact that at this very moment we are condemning Lance for using "socialy unaccepted" means of body performance enhancement. At the very same moment many cheer every single new MTB gadget, new wheel, electronic shifting, new suspension being nothing else than same "want to win" factor but in form of technological performance enhancement. I see no difference between them rather who has more money for improvements. I leave it here for further interpretation...
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 Nice to know all the guys here would rather win by cheating than have an honest race.

It's interesting that you guys think that once you're a pro you would basically start cheating until you win...

Case Study #1:
Gee Atherton f**king hates 4th. He comes 4th pretty often and doesn't enjoy it. Yet when he won the Champery World Cup in 2010, immediately after the podium he was rounded up for a drug test, which presumably he passed.

Case Study #2:
Everybody is getting spanked by Gwin at the moment in the DH World Cup at the moment and since none of his closest competitors have been banned from racing, none of them have failed the drugs tests.

Just because you guys are weak minded fools, doesn't mean everybody is - some people would rather lose with pride, than cheat.
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 It's interesting what a load of crap you just came out with. What seems to be escaping you is that at the time the whole field was taking drugs. He didn't come into a clean sport and start cheating, when he entered the sport literally everyone who was competing was taking drugs. So the option was to train hard, take the drugs and compete, get sponsors, train hard some more and eventually start to win some races or, the other option, was to train hard, finish pretty much last, get no sponsors, train hard some more, finish last, move back in with your parents because you can't afford rent because you don't win anything, train hard some more, continue to lose.

If you were serious about competing you had to be taking the drugs to put yourself on a level playing field with everyone else. Until then your talent and how hard you train can't shine through.This is why I think Lance has so little remorse - because he did what you had to do and what everyone did. So this high horse shit about "I would rather lose with pride" is totally fair enough - and I respect you for that, but Lance wanted to be a professional cyclist and he wanted to be the best, being a professional cyclist was his dream and he wasn't about to give it up. I think it's pretty obvious why he did what he did and I don't condone him for it. I don't think it makes him a "weak minded fool" - the man has got a very strong mind. A mind that brought him back from testicular cancer to win the f*cking tour de france.

These days, I hope at least, cycling is clean and there is a nice level playing field - which is the way it should be. Regular drug tests are conducted and it's for the good of the sport. These days anybody who takes performance enhancing drugs is a cheat and should be treated as such. You have to understand that it's very different now to how it was then and understand why he had to what he did. All you've done is gone "oh drugs are bad" and given it no more thought than that it would seem.
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 It's interesting that your entire comment was focused upon Lance Armstrong and the 90's (ish) road racing scene, which I didn't even mention once in my comment...

While I agree with many of your point about Lance Armstrong, my rebuttal was focused on comments such as: "I race clean at my local races' high and mighty attitude will change" and the strong implications that cheating IS required to win.

Maybe there was a time when a person had to "cheat" to win the tour, but some of the comments came across as that cheating to win is much better than losing. I think that I can understand how Lance got himself into the position he did, through shear determination to win and in this case being "too strong minded" - however pinkbike users* implying that they would rather cheat to win than compete fairly, comes across as cheap, weak minded people.


*My blanket comment about "you guys" may have been too general, tom666's posts, although delivered in a provocative manor are specifically discussing competing in the tour in the doping era... However a lot of people just seemed to have jumped on the band wagon!
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 A hero to no one. A supporter of Big Pharm. A cheat. A bully. A liar. I'm the father of two severely Autistic kids and I know from toughness. My wife could take Lance anywhere anytime at anything. What a freakin' phony. Bully's always get what they deserve. I used to ride all the time. Now I consider myself lucky to be able to ride to work. Spare time. None. He should have been grateful a long time ago and tried harder. Too bad. These athletes with this attitude are not scarce in the world. No wonder kids have no direction but towards the screen these days. All their heros turn out false. Or dead in the case of pro team sports in the U.S. Too much money. Too may drugs. Both enhancing and recreational. Get real brothers and sisters. Make your own history and stop putting so much stock in the "stars of the sport". It takes a real special person to be my hero. My kids don't speak or feed themselves and their bravery outweighs Lance's like the sun's to the Earth. Thanks all. peace out.
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 Who cares!

Did he affect you personally, your family, your finances?

Did his racing create great entertainment?

Did he inspire up and coming stars to train harder and race better?

Has he inspired people to be the best without doping?

Is he any different to any other doper or doctor that helps dopers or anyone for that matter that is involved in this behaviour?

Has he educated people on what not to do?

Would you like to be publicly prosecuted for all of the mistakes you've made in life?

What secrets do you have that you would fight to keep hidden?

Its easy to sit back and judge others but its a lot harder to live a day in their shoes!
No one is perfect, we all make mistakes and we all have to live with those mistakes. However, no one deserves to be ridiculed for the rest of their lives!

I have to take drug screens before i start my work so why not drug screen every rider before every race? That way there is no question about their winning race because they were screened at the start..

Who is worse?
The rider who dopes?
The doctor that enables it?
The team that hides and supports it?
The sponsors that turn a blind eye so they can get more sales?

Inspiration can be taken from anything.. Your mate does from a drug overdose so it inspires you to never take drugs.

There is good to be taken from everything in life if you choose to "focus on the positives and not the negatives"
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 The thing I love about downhill, big mountain freeride and slopestyle is that all the EPO in the world won't help you if you haven't got tons of skill and a big ol' set of balls. This isn't the worst thing to happen to cycling. This is the worst thing to happen to road cycling. To me, that's a different world.
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 hes probably to blame for the Tesco horse meat burgers....'It will make everyone stronger"
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 Maybe Contador needs a trip to the UK right about now to prepare for the Giro and the Tour Wink
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 Horse meat is actually pretty tasty. I don't know about the UK, but in Canada you can buy it at pretty much any Deli.
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 Who care if he doped. Everyone new he did it. So many athletes dope in professional sports. Its the fact of how he tried to cover his cheating. He sued and crushed everyone in his path with little remorse. His confession may be real but it was the tone he said it all in, his ego and pride ruin him.
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 If everyone knew then why didnt the uci do anying about it? Somebody in the uci knew, its obvious. And what about trek? Im sure they knew too. Yet they all stood idle and showed their true colours. They're corrupt, the lot of them.
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 The UCI would of been making money off the back of him winning and bringing massive amounts of money into the sport via TV rights/sponsorships/general interest in the spot , it was not in their interest to ' catch him out ' while he was making so much publicity for the sport.
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 Here we go everyone crying because of this, when in reality pretty much EVERYONE was doing exactly the same thing as him around the time and the only way to get half decent was to do it also. I hate how everyone's putting him in the spotlight just because he won so much. He's still fucking awesome for winning so many tours considering everyone else was also doping!
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 hes not the greatest! never was the greatest! he is a cheat and always has been. hes never been better than the guy not doping! infact im a better road cyclist than him! cos i dont cheat. and i only ride on the road to get to the hills!
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 what a moron you are @dirt-gash. if you think taking drugs makes you a winner...you carry on crack head. if you compete in a sport where taking drugs is cheating....its cheating. if you cheat you cant compete on a level worthy of competing at all.
hes a looser. he took drugs to enhance his performance to beat others that didnt take drugs. looser!

im sure if someone in a dh comp punctured everyone elses tyres so he was the only one running to win, it would be cheating. but in your effed up little mind it isnt! how about you get back to your crack pipe and stop wasting everyone elses time.
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 I didn't watch it. Don't really care to read about it either. Of course, the news is all over it.

Personally, USADA has been on a witch hunt for years. Not that what Armstrong did was right because if you strip him of his wins, who would you make the award to? They're all as guilty as Armstrong was. And in my mind, if you want to strip him of his wins, then you might as well just eliminate the names of all winners from those years.

A far better approach would have been to acknowledge and accept what was happening within cycling with regard to doping and other illegal drug use, advise teams of the no-tolerance policy and announce whatever strict penalties and move on. What USADA and other doping "agencies" have done is far worse for credibility of the sport (and of their own abilities really) than what's alleged to have happened over the years. Not that it makes doping right either.
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 the wins will not be awarded in those years precisely because of what you are bringing up. to say USADA is on a witch hunt implies that it is misguided and fundamentally flawed. USADA is actually doing its job to represent the interests of that athletes who want to compete honestly and with integrity. i think it is great to tear down the sport right now.. it needs it...
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 Here's why I think it's a witch hunt. They've gone to anyone who had anything to do with any team Armstrong was on and basically threatened/cajoled/whatever them into testifying against him. They've done it to few other athletes in the same way as they've done it to Armstrong. I wouldn't be surprised if there are facts seriously in question simply because of their tactics.

Notice I'm not defending what Armstrong did. Just noting the methods USADA used are suspect. I'd also be willing to bet that drugs are much more prevalent than USADA cares to admit.
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 i am ok with the methods... they do the same to take out crack dealers... and it is the only way to get to criminals... doping tests are not enough as we all can see now... there is nothing illegal here- just basic practice from any district attorney... like i said, USADA has done it's job to represent the interests of riders who want to compete clean.
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 I guess we'll have to disagree.
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 Lance for one thing not a good public guy and this interview really shows many areas where he could have defended himself but chose not to. He doesn't say his competitors take the same things, but simply puts it that he didn't invent the culture. Read between the lines.

If anyone thinks taking extra HGH and extra testosterone will simply put anyone in the winning spot of the Tour De France then they are as ignorant as someone that calls him a cheat. Look in your father's drug cabinet and find his prescribed testosterone rub patches. One day you will also be walking into an anti aging clinic to pick up your prescribed HGH. This stuff simply doesn't put an athlete's career in autopilot strait to the champion's seat...

Lance is a fierce competitor and did whatever it took to win and without this mindset you cannot be anywhere near that level. The ONLY thing that put him in front of the others in those races was his attitude and determination. This is the reason we love him and his accomplishments, if you strategically pic apart his every move during his carer behind the curtains you find things that are not perfect. You cannot get to the top without pissing some people off along the way. This goes for everything else in our lives. Looks at politics: Cheaters, liars. Look at banks and banking: Cheaters, liars, look at everything that stands above the average human being. Corporations: Cheaters, liars. It's a game that is open to anyone that wants to play and if you want to live by every single rule in the book, you can stay an "average joe" and be one of the ones clapping or criticizing the ones that are playing the game.
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 Yes he is an arrogant prick, but he is in a sport where drugs are needed to be successfully, a large percentage of the top road athletes have taken drugs and are still taking drugs. looks like his arrogant's/ competitiveness fuelled his lies and things got past the point of no return. Drugs and lies aside the guy did raise $430 million for cancer
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 OK, so he finally admitted he cheated. All the people who he sued and destroyed for telling the truth they should obviously get their money back...but that's probably not going to happen as he'll probably be broke by the time the bigger companies sue him.


What I find amazing is that face that no one has said anything about sending his ass to jail. I mean the dude lied in court, lied in sports and the Olympics, destroyed people's lives and ended some of their careers. Pretty much I think he deserves jail time!

Right?
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 i also wonder about the perjury... marion jones did 6 months for it...
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 I see a very miserable person.

People tend to forget that you can't avoid the consequences of your actions, money aside he was living a lie, his actions are those of a miserable person: greeed, anger, self-centeredness. Those traits aren't those of someone who experiences peace or happiness, no matter how much money they amass. We seem to be locked into a perception that money = happiness, well I don't buy into that, peace and happiness exist in the absence of suffering, and this guy has been suffering his whole life, with no way out. Only now he has crashed and burned does he get a chance to experience real happiness, and then maybe he may use that happiness to help others rather than crushing them. I wish him well. Smile
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 What a shame. Its only if you win a lot in pro cycling that you'll be questioned for performance enhancing drugs. When we all know most of the winning circle is hopped up on something. Drugs don't make you win, drive to succeed makes you win. he shouldnt have been stripped of all his titles because of this.
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 This guy is more than just a road racer that took banned performance enhancers (forget the fact that, oh, ALL of the competition at that level took them). This guy is a role model for an un-imaginable number of people suffering from cancer. He overcame an illness that takes down most poeple unlucky enough to have it, and he came back so hard that he competed and won at an internatioinal level of a professional sport. This whole big thing is a witch hunt. There's obviously some very silly people who govern the sport of road biking who have a personal vendetta against this man, and they've taken it so far as to do everything possible to ruin his name. Now I'm not saying it's a good thing to do what he did, I'm saying that making a public spectacle out of a person who provides inspiration to cancer patients is not cool.
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 Well put I wish more people could see your post
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 I think the bigger story here is, why couldn't PB splice these together? What a pain to have to keep hitting play after 45 secs, 1 min?! It's not like I got all day to watch a cheater finally admit he was getting over on everyone!

Either way, he cheated among cheaters no different then baseball's steroid era. It's the culture and if you want to keep your job then you have to cheat. If there's someone of much lesser athleticism excelling further then a purely more talented athlete, how could the better athlete not feel the pressure to have to cheat just so he can keep his job?
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 When it comes to professional sports, athletes should be allowed to push the boundaries of what the human body can achieve. everything should be allowed, all the drugs, artificial enhancements, mechanical limbs, everything. Imagine how that can drive technology and medicine. These athletes practice their sport as a lifestyle, its all they are, why shouldn't they embrace every opportunity. We'd have the 'million dollar man' by now if people weren't so sensitive about this kind of stuff.
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 i can imagine homer simpson watching this saying "DOPED!!!". this guy right here can be any other road cycling superstar for all i care. just ban the whole tour de france while you're at it.

we need more mtb news. like is there more team shuffling going on???
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 Haha! "Doped!"
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 haha, no offence, but... its funny cause youre jamaican...
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 @robin Ha! None taken, good sir.
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 here is one thing to keep in mind the 7 titles that he lost all went to guys that have admitted to doping, or has/is suspected of doping.

He did cheat, but damn he did it better than anyone else. And after 20 years of it, got to give him props for standing up and doing an interview to come clean on all of it. I hope he does take care of the people that he has sued, and hope that in a year or more he can move past this, as we all have times in our life that we screwed. Yes, some bigger than others.
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 Reason this happened: He's human. Outcome: Honesty.
At the end of the day, honesty is the best policy and although there's no excuse for how he's treated certain people, I'm sure those people will deal with it in their own way. We all mess up; it's in our nature. But how we react when someone 'comes clean' tests not only our own character, but the character of the guilty party.
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 "At 16, Armstrong began competing as a triathlete and became a national sprint-course triathlon champion in 1989 and 1990."

Quote from; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lance_Armstrong

...16!...off blood doping, and grey haired... he could still leave all of us behind.

Also; the storm butterfly effect, if he had not done what he had done, would we be at the stage in Cycling that we are now?
Doping is against the rules, yes.
he shouldn't have done it (easy to say in hindsight), yes.

But childhood heroes don't die easily.
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 I looked up to him at a point because face it or not with or without drugs or doping, he is a badass rider on a bike, he won those competitions all with drugs or doping but I think he should be able to keep them, even though it is without fairness in mind, stripping 7 of the worlds biggest titles is rash in my mind...
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 Slowly i am gaining respect for him again! We all know that, when we once start a lie u can't stop it in middle of it. You get blinded by power and fame, it ain't easy to quit. We all tasted it in different levels, that evil ego doesn't let you see clearly! At least i am glad he is coming clean admitting that he was a jerk.
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 As far as I'm concerned , Lance is OK in my books. So is Tiger Woods and they should be respected for the good times they give us. Keith Richards is cool and as far as I'm again concerned so is Charlie Sheen. I would fully enjoy living the way they do if I could afford it and dont chastise them for doing what many of us would do if we could - Case Closed!
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 not to say that what he did was right but....Everyone was doing it! just because he was better than them when they were all on drugs he gets all the blame.
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 all of this still begs the question about the UCI...!!?? they let money rule over morals and their own rules about doping. Them knowing and ignoring makes them bigger douches then Lance. They need to be cleaned up as much as the Roadie crew if not more. The people they damaged to keep this covered sends a loud message of they endorse cheating over a fair field.
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 this whole thing is dragging on much too long. and it is clearly about the money, not the drugs. so many other atheletes dope, and im not saying that anyone shoukd, but the only reason he is being so hated for it is because he is a houshold name and many people are making alot of money of of his lawsuits etc. Yes he doped, but id bet almost all of his conpetitors doped too. he was still an incredible athelete, not to mention all the money he made for cancer. imo his biggest problem was not admitting this earlier...
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 He is a great athlete no matter the history. He has done huge things for Cancer Foundations and is going to be remembered for all of time. We all have our faults. But remember he has a very large staff that make daily decicions for him and its not always his last say.....just saying. I am still a fan!
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 I'm not going to read the entire article and consider all possible theories, but my opinion would be to strip him of titles, and possibly pay back the funds in which he received from the papers and/or reporters.... Chances are none of that will happen, but its a quiet thought
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 People really have blinders on to the world when it comes to making judgments on topics they know nothing about. This is what makes me vomit. Media attacking another hero because he's on the top. It's just more controversy, believe it or not, controversy is profitable and people love it, they need it.

Lance took the same things all his other competitors also took, it is a "culture" and a norm at that level of competition. Look up culture in the dictionary and put this into the perspective at which it's used in the topic of "performance enhancing drugs" in world class professional sports. All other professional sports when that much money is on the line, they all take steroids. In actual fact, Testosterone and HGH are natural hormones and typically ones his age get prescriptions for this. They are not built like machines, they do not take even a percentage of what most of the other sports athletes take, not even the same ball park. There are sports where athletes are stacking five different types of steroids at the same time. Besides the point, they all take it and they are all competing at the same level.
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 Well put and to add to that when he lied he actually protected cycling. The guys that should be called cowerd duche ass, scubag etc are the ones that publcly threw Lance and the sport under the bus. I have done a ton of sports from swimming, to white water kayak, outrigger canoe, sprint kayak, DH, XC, and weights at off all place GOLDS venice the body building juicing king. Every sport has a culture to it and to exist in the culture you must adapt. That is one thing all of can do is find a way to adapt. It just does not work well to go against the culture. To go after Lance and pretend that he is the "dopper" they say it like without him non of them would have doped. They make is sound like he is the drug dealler. Ell Heffe Armstron LOL
Thans for pointing out that it is a unique culture because that is important and if anything he stood by the clan as he should.
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 Our culture is completely absorbed in fantasy. We project our aspirations onto our propped up idols and ignore the lies, cheating, theft, and other ego and power related transgressions. We redirect our morality towards the whistleblowers, journalists and everyday people who cry out that the emperor has no clothes. there are examples everywhere in entertainment politics and sports. He was the boss of his team. He controlled what was going on at all times. He crushed anyone who opposed his agenda. He used cancer to exploit the cycling community, marked all charity organizations, used cancer and cancer survivers for his selfish ends. What he was doing was pretty obvious for a very long time. No one wanted to ruin the dream. This is just one more sign of the cultural sickness , denial and inability to deal with reality. We seem to prefer illusions brought to us through screens over our own common sense and critical thinking these days. what evzzz.
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 It's all PR.
1-come clean
2 make a public apology
3 take a course or therapy etc to show that your "fixing the specific issue"
4 disappear until peoples short attention span and self interest erase the event from their memories.
5 Come back, start some foundation or charity related to your crime, look different and rebrand yourself. maybe find god.Whatever shows a moral transcendence.
6 hook up with movie stars and other idols who will support your new brand.
7 reinvented, everyone falls for the rags to riches myth, business as usual.
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 I drink beer, This is a Drug. So do you and your a druggie that rides. NO DIFFERENCE ..... All you Hypocrites need to shut your asses up. This man beat cancer, Banged the hottest chicks and made a living off of riding a bike. You are all mad cause your life sucks. The whole field did it and he was the best so now everyone hates him. Man I bet he had a hell of a ride, now he has to sit on millions and live the dream. Sign me up!!!!!! Barry Bonds, A-rod, The bash bros all were heroes and still are.
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 I am curious as to the "web of lies" that many people and organizations had to maintain so Lance could keep racing. Lance did take the dope, but who assisted in covering up all of this mess? Who is worse the addict or the enabler?
But yeah Lance is a douche bag anyhow
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 what he did was horrible, ridiculous, and just downright low. But, with that said, I still have respect for him. I know that is hard to believe but the way I look at is this, even if I went and took all these drugs that he took, I still could not win the Tour De France one time, let alone seven, and with cancer? the dude is still an awesome cyclist no matter what he did, and to look at it from a different perspective, all he was doing was what all the other cyclists were doing, basically leveling the playing field. so like I said, it was low what he did, but he still is an awesome cyclist no matter what anyone says.
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 twowheels2011 (4 hours ago)
You are absolutely right.


You said"I'm surprised there are so many people out there that are naive enough to be surprised by this unsurprising revelation in the first place.
If he won the races he deserves the recognition. He was competing against people doing the exact same things he was. So it was level playing field. This whole "scandal" is stupid, because it isn't bringing to light anything more than what grown adults should already know, and if you don't know; Welcome to the real world."
Im not trying to urge anyone that doping s a good thing. It's absolutely bad thing, but on the other hand he compeed with same dopers. Also, when everyone is on dope,at the end the strongest organism winning. Of course this shit went to far with ruining people careers, but come on, do you really belive in super humans? Have u ever watched TdF? do you really think it's possible to compeed with them and beeing clean?
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 Lance got sold out, someone made a lot of money rating him out. I bet you more then half of the riders were doing it he just did it better. Football (not soccer), baseball, hockey and other spots do it too. Look what Barry Bonds was doing is method was so advanced rubbing a cream on his arms. At 15 I was told blood doping or pumping would help me win bmx races. So its not unheard of someone just cashed in snitching on Lance.
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 People get to caught on the terms "doping" and "cheating".

Let's be clear here, you could lose your gold medals at the winter Olympic freestyle snowboarding for having marijuana in your system, so what exactly does it enhance?

In the case of lance it allowed him to train harder, it allowed him to train longer, and with more intensity. What you cannot deny there is, Lance still had to train longer, harder and with more intensity, steroids and doping at an athletic level are no performance enhancers, it isn't hitting the boost button in a race car.

I do believe he was caught breaking the rules, and rightfully so he should be disqualified and have the wins revoked, but keep in mind that all the training he did is still there, his body does not run on drugs, he has the muscle memory, the cardio he had before from the doping. He could just as well come back and strait laced win the Tour this year no problem.

The drugs let you work harder, they don't do the work for you, he earned his gold.
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 doping is cheating... and yes you are correct that many drugs allow more intense training and shorter recovery times... but i think where you are not understanding the benefit of oxygen drugs when you say that they arent like hitting a boost button in a race car... because EPO is pretty much as close to a boost button as you can get in an endurance sport. and a rider with a VO max as "normal" as Lance's could have some significant improvement in that area... so yeah... he did the work, but he also had the boost button pressed... and yeah... his body did run on drugs... muscles can only remember so much without all the extra oxygen being carried to them by the epo and the transfused blood...
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 witch hunt. This is a whitewash of the federation. As in the Auto Racing with Schumacher after Senna's death. Or Spain (selection) after the fraud of the Italians(Juventus).
He is the visible face of a larger problem.
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 yes he is a scapegoat why now why the sudden presure on him the last two years.
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 To me, this just goes to show you how the human spirit lives it ones love, regrdless of the outcome to ones own personal thoughts, willfully knowing the damage that can be done to others.. He Fucked up.. now there are other things in this world that need to be addressed more important like when will and how will our children be able to survive in such a gready world. That to me is why I think the bicycle is a effective tool in all of our lives... nusff said . Just Sayin...
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 Idk.. I still think he has done much more positive for this world than not. I feel bad for the guy, that "fame factor" definitely doesn't make it easier even if he does feel contrite.
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 Hey Lance lend us a tenner?
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 then people complain about this sport... lack of sponsors, support... it´s a bunch of crackheads!!

who remembers now who finished second in all his victories?? and what was the return of the sponsors of that second place?
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 Well we have learned what it takes to win seven titles back to back. We can blame him for using but we can't deny the results. He wanted to win and this is what he did to become the greatest. Now that he has admitted it, will he apologize to those he destroyed to keep his secret? Next time on Oprah! She did a good job. I'm actually looking forward to more of her interviews. It was better than Piers Morgan's interview with Alex Jones which was the equivalent of a WWE promo interview.
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 It is people like Lance, the cycling industry and even the UCI who crush truly brilliant people such as Graham Obree. Anyone remember him and all the shit he had to put up by refusing doping? He is now trying to break the high speed record on another bike, made by him, of steel and not carbon, at 41 years old, with no drugs. I´ve not seen him on Opra of late.
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 I see a lot of comments that are justifying his use of the illegal/banned substances based on the fact that the other competitors were using it as well. What ever happened to integrity? Since when is the old, "well everyone else is doing it..." justifiable in any line of work or competition? Nonetheless, the fact remains that he fervently and repeatedly denied using these substances and went so far as to sue and degrade the reputation of those that reported the facts against him. It's this kind of unethical behavior that has tainted my view of Lance Armstrong, not to mention his total lack of emotion in this interview. Only now, shortly after having been stripped of his 7 titles has he decided to confess. All I see here is a meager attempt to justify his actions and save whatever image he has left.

And yes, I understand that regardless of the cycling aspect of his life, he and his Livestrong organization have done great things for many cancer patients. But the mere fact that he says "we" when talking about suing "so many people" implies a support by the Livestrong company, which it sounds like aided in his continued lying and deceit.

Lastly, he says it was impossible to win without the drugs. Nothing is impossible! With enough will, anything is possible. For anyone to even complete a Tour de France after overcoming cancer the way he did, he still would have been herald as a hero. At least he would have had his integrity and who knows what he may have been able to accomplish without the drugs. I guess we'll never know.
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 He was facilitated by some of the best scamers in the world, I have an underlying feeling that this started and he just couldn't stop it or perhaps he didn't want to stop, obviously then it just turned into this monster and consumed him and everyone else around him became collateral damage if they got in the way.
Those saying people working for him (like Emma O'Reilly) could have just walked away but money and fame held them there, I don't think thats true or would have been that easy, this guy by his own admission was a bully, you didn't walk away from him in the late 90's and early 00's or he'd just ruin your career, you'd never work in sport again. Just sad that fame, power and money turned him into this all consuming machine that didn't give damn about anyone or anything. He should however be held accountable for this actions and especially for the those people who have been irreparable damage over the years due to his greed. I feel very sorry for his five kids.
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 I'm upset at the fact that many people were sued by Armstrong because they were suspicious of him. Armstrong destroyed many lives (financially and emotionally) through lawsuits, all for the purpose of keeping his secrets a secret. I really wanted to believe this guy was the real deal, in the end he ends up being a fraud. Those yellow rubber bracelets are now symbols of shame and deception, who ever has one, time to cut it up and chuck it in the recycling bin.
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 Lance is the fucking man!
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 Trollin' Berny?
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 Very good advert for the foundation. The Foundation never received so much attention untill now. They should take back the money he won. That'll make him cry on oprah. Otherwise it was anyway doping tour de france. So he was the best doper. Made me think of possible concentration enhancers (like ADD medication) for Downhill and MX. Don't think UCI is testing for that
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 dudes, that's so wrong,but that is the real world, atleast here in romania (i'm pretty sure everywhere). hoax is the way to rule and the small people are doing so little to stop it. human spirit is strong,but alone you get crushed (not to mention that victory is more tempting than fairness), we all are flawed creatures yet we must fight our little fight and try to congragate. share ideas! we'll put up a better fight together.
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 Here's the thing: Lance lives in the real world where sh*t happens. For the reporters and such who lost their careers trying to expose him, thats the risk you take when trying to ruin the livelihood of a MULTI MILLIONAIR. If you don't want to sacrifice your entire career as a reporter than don't go sticking your nose in other peoples business. I do relize, though, that this is the point of being a reporter so too bad for them they got the short end of the stick.
In the real world, athletes take drugs to enhance their preformance. THIS IS NOT NEWS!

I'm surprised there are so many people out there that are naive enough to be surprised by this unsurprising revelation in the first place.

If he won the races he deserves the recognition. He was competing against people doing the exact same things he was. So it was level playing field. This whole "scandal" is stupid, because it isn't bringing to light anything more than what grown adults should already know, and if you don't know; Welcome to the real world.
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 The sad truth is he did what all the other top cyclist did to be competitive at that level. Had it not been for the doping, he wouldn't of had a chance against the others who were. He was leveling the playing field. It doesn't make it right, but when the 2nd,3rd,etc.. top guys are also implicated, how can anyone clean be expected to break through? The sport is saturated with drugs as are many other high profile sports/athletes. We can never know, because we can not compete at that level to know how frustrating it must be to see time and time again the dopers win, when you're running clean. You're results advance your career and purse - he knew this is what he had to do and he became one of the best at it. It's a shame. He still knocked out cancer from his dying body and did every bit of the grueling work out that he had to do to compete with the guys at the top who were doping as well. It's a cat and mouse game for these guys.
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 This guy was such an inspiration for me, to see him go down this way is really embarrassing. Needless to say the selfish bastard deserves it. It's truly surprising to me how he didn't apologize or even acknowledge his kids and ex-wife. For this probably has a bigger influence on them than any of us realize
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 I am pretty sure he would have kept quiet except for his kid was publicly defending him and getting shit for it. I think watching that casued him to come forth. I also think that it all should have been left alone. There is nothing but harm for many so a few can levy there vindication on him. Yes they won but what good have they done?
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 Imagine the relief he must have felt when he answered the question "Did you ever take banned substances to increase your cycling performance?"..must be an enormous weight off his shoulders to just say the truth finally.

With any luck he will come forward and personally apologise to each and every person that he has burnt over the years..without that all of this means nothing..he has a lot of wrongs to undo.
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 He didn't seem sorry at all, this isn't about him feeling bad just trying to preserve his wealth.
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 What is done is done and cannot be changed.

Armstrong clearly took this too far, but I am very sure each and every one of us at some stage in our lives have told a lie which we wish we hadn't but found it very hard to come clean about it.

This clearly escalated out of his control and meant he had to stick with it, whether he liked it or not, until the day he got found out.

Does this mean we should all forgive him now that he has been found out and now that he has come clean? That depends on how this situation affected you.

I watch this interview and I personally doo see a man who now realises the extent of the situation. I am glad he is undergoing this process and I think for that, we should leave him be and just focus on getting the sport clean and moving on.

Should he race, competitively? No, is my personal opinion, he was part of something that damaged our sport.

Is he the soul reason this all happened? Not in a million years in my opinion and others during those years should be very grateful that Armstrong is taking the full brunt of it all.

Put yourself in Armstrong's shoes, could you go on TV and try to explain and apologies to the world? That takes courage.

We are only human.
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 Hmm... he realises the extent of the situation with regards to saving his own skin as much as possible and is a desperate man. There was not one sign of repentance or genuine remorse. He is still all about Lance. There is plenty more he could have done and still can do if he actually cared
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 Well all that being said it take balls to make such confession when you are such a legend... or was legend. I am not defending him. Maybe this will be some impulse to discussion about this important issue and will help to stop others from cheating like he did.
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 That's tight as f*ck. Why would you take the piss out of someone who had cancer? You're a disgrace to humanity.
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 He is a lying bastard- he's still lying through his teeth on the interview. I understand that doping in that era was prevalent blah blah blah.... but at the end of the day he's still a dirty cheat. When asked if he injected EPO in a tent with crowds of fans right outside he said 'I can't quite remember that but I'm not going to say it's a lie'.... disgusting. The day he gets to compete again is a sad day for any sports fan.
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 And the truth finally comes out! I've watched countless documentaries like the Fifth Estate talk about Lance and he's always denied so why now in this interview spill your guts out? This guy is never going to be looked at the same
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 see my post above its his kid
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 What's his profile name here on Pinkbike?
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 the guy is blameless, as far as i see it, he had a bigger battle. it's all about money/fame, he was scammed into pride and money. if some collective spirit won't make us break free(for the right/truth); we are going down.. i hope so much that the hippie years were just a preview not the last spasm of human strenght..
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 I have never been in cycling on professional level but now after all this pure professional cycling myth collapsed I know now that professional cycling got no much to do with riding bike for pleasure. There is no question that this man was and probably still will be inspiration for many cyclist. The big question was eventually answered, I'm happy that I can cycle for my own joy and don't have to count every second and dedicate all my time for thing which is very very hard work when it suppose to be pleasure.
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 My 11 year old son Harry asked me today who is Neil Armsrong? I told him he was one of the bravest men who had ever lived and went on to explain about the moon landing and one small step for man and one giant leap for mankind . I asked him why did he want to know about him? he said he had taken drugs and he had seen him on telly. I explained that was another person called Armstrong, who is probably the biggest coward who had ever lived!!
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 I feel Sorry for your son. That you cannot respect a champ and explain to him that many times men are both strong and weak. That in one capacity Lance is the strongest to ever live( that is science ) and in another he was caught up in a lye that snowballed. The way a shyt head like you hears someone speak the truth no wonder he never came clean. Be an adult and a good parent grow up
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 There's no contest that major change in the sport of competitive cycling is well overdue, however it's unfortunate for Armstrong that he's become the sport scapegoat and a platform by which change may be accelerated. Lance Armstrong has been and still remains to be one of the biggest and highest profile names in the sport of cycling, but is merely a product of the sport and his generation. Beyond that, it’s a terrible lie that snowballed out of control. I love cycling, but the reality is that the sport has been the lie and it is the sport that has fallen short for it's athletes.
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 I'm not saying I condone it but,
he's basically a drug addict, the drugs he used may or may not have been addictive but the end result (winning) was.
Whilst the media continue to give him air time and paying for his interviews,
the more he'll think he's winning again.
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 I love Lance. I don't care if he doped. Man the tour is packed with dopers. They pick on him because he hid it well and won a whole bunch. Let the guy be. He is embarrassed, but he also realizes his wrongs. Clean slate man. We all do stupid stuff but he squashed it or is trying too and to man that counts for a lot. Let the guy live his life. This attention isnt good for his family or sanity. Don't beat a dead horse. Move on.
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 As much as I hate him for what he has done, I believe he does have some goodness in him. When my dad was dying with cancer, he received a personal email from lance and Ill always be thankful he did as it gave my dad courage. He is a big liar with a big heart yet i still respect him for what GOOD he has done, even with all the bad now
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 @smokeybear
Is there anyone you respect. I am not dumb for admiring the strongest endurance athalete on the palanet. it takes so much work to get to a level where you can race tje tour but to win it, and then win seven times. First off anyone that beats cancer good job period. Anyone who can race the tour good job lets start there because until you can have some respect your the A whole in my book

First off, that was hard to read. But if you must know, yes.. I respect many many people, and would have respected Lance had he come clean before SUING AND RUINING PEOPLES LIVES WHILE LYING!!! How pissed would you be if you tried to tell the truth about someone, then said person bullied and bankrupted you? Would you give a Sh^t he won a bike race or once had cancer? My god, have some objectivity and stop ball washing for one second and think about it. Ya, I'm the A hole.
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 I'll say the same thing I've always said about him: I don't care what he's done good or bad, the guy is a gigantic a*shole. In my book, that makes him a loser no matter what. Get lots done in the world but be a giant dick about it? Not a role model, not inspirational. Just a dick.
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 Haha, some one said " Lance is a great guy" Lol!!! Just because some of you people were dumb enough to fall in love with this A hole, doesn't mean you have to support him still. Unless he's your kid, I don't get this unconditional love some peeps have for this douche. Let go and realize he's a huge fraud. What good is building this great foundation if it was built on BS? Maybe we should get drug dealers to sell drugs for cancer research? If its just the though that counts, why not? Please!
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 Is there anyone you respect. I am not dumb for admiring the strongest endurance athalete on the palanet. it takes so much work to get to a level where you can race tje tour but to win it, and then win seven times. First off anyone that beats cancer good job period. Anyone who can race the tour good job lets start there because until you can have some respect your the A whole in my book
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 I know the guy "cheated" in all but who really gives a shit? He made watching raod biking semi fun and actually kept me entertained. I wish they would just let all athletes do the shit and get it over with. You all know you want to see big crazy beasts ripping eachother apart in football or in MTB guys will be jumping 100ft gaps because they are on the juice. I don't see the problem with it if there was some actual hard scientific evidence that shows steroids are actually hard on your body but the question is still out and doctors disagree if they are bad for you...
I am sure everyone will put me below the threshold for this but I use steroids and they are an absolute wonder "drug"! My Dr. knows about it and she can't tell me they are bad or not because she just doesn't know but for me they just make me better in all aspects from riding, lifting weights, sex and just feeling good!!! I am a 34 year old dude and don't want kids using them but guys that are old enough and in good health, why not?
To finish up my little segment, I think Lance was doing what everyone else was doing and has been doing it for years and they have to have someone to go after and call a cheater when in the end it's all a game and doesn't really matter. We have so much other things that require much more attention but get pushed to the way side because some guy "cheated" while riding his f-ing bike. Lets everyone grow up a little and move the f*ck on...
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 Google dr jack Kruse he has some great stuff on cold therapy and a Paleo diet all the benits of but not the risk unless you like juicing he also talks about Lance Phelps and Amgen and there is maybe more to both stories than anyone knows.
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 Sad thing is when I was a kid i idolized this guy that is now so clearly a fraud. Up until recently I looked up to him and his perseverance but now I just look at him as a hug dissapointment and cheat. Way to drop the ball as a roll model lance. Huge let down for the youth, cyclists and cancer survivors/ patients that have looked to you as a roll model.
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 What Lance did is no different than using a calculator during a math test. If you are the only one using a calculator then yes, you have a significant advantage and are cheating. However if the entire class is also using a calculator then you have no advantage over the rest of them and therefore in my eyes are not cheating. It's as simple as that. Still a champion too me. Lance has made such contributions to both the worlds of cycling and cancer research that he should not be discredited for all the good he has done.
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 Growing up in that era doping was rife in all levels of sport.
Running, cycling, athletics, gym.... everywhere.
Is it still there.... we would be mad to think that it is not, the dopers will always be 1 step ahead of the agency.
Is having a chamber for your athletes to train in that "simulates" altitude cheating... can everyone afford these chambers.... well they sure aint fair IMO.
Was changing the entry rules in terms of number of events 1 particiapnt could take part in for the olympic track cyclists fair, as this rule was not rolled out to swimming etc....
Cycling is a joke when it comes to the big picture, stuck in its little bubble.
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Now... time to pack the van for some non official trail building, uplift and riding in the morning :o)
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 Lance Armstrong has inspired so many cyclists and cancer victims, in spite of all this scandal he is still a legend of the sport. My opinion is that he had to use performance enhancing drugs and doping to even stand a chance of winning, because everyone else was doing the same! I feel he was not at an unfair advantage, and to take his yellow jerseys away seems a bit inappropriate, but the way he denied the accusations forcibly for so long leaves me a bit disillusioned. Could he have come clean sooner? Could he have made a stand about the use of performance enhancing drugs and doping? Yes, he could have - but we will never experience the feeling he had when he was at the top of his game, and I guess power glory can sometimes overrun someone's moral decisions.
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 The best part is Lance blamed his one ball for doping:

“My cocktail, so to speak, was EPO, but not a lot, transfusions and testosterone — which, in a weird way, I almost justified, because of my history, obviously, with having testicular cancer and losing, I thought, ‘surely, I’m running low,’” he told Winfrey. There you go, he actually did the world a service and made the racing fair! Takes balls …or ball!
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 I don't agree with him suing people to cover up the truth, and lying was definitely wrong. Almost all of the people who are winning tour de frances and other professional level road cycling events are likely doing some form of performance enhancing drug. That being said he may have still just been a better cyclists than his competitors when he won his tittles. I hope Lance's confession and details on how he would take & conceal performance enhancing drug will help to reduce the number of competitors that are on them.
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 despite all the soul crushing reality he heaped upon so many people, the greatest contingency of loss was not even acknowledged in his interview: the millions who believed in his story and found inspiration to fight their own battles. those legions didn't even cross his lips in consideration. that was what i found redemptive about armstrong, even when the entire world knew everyone was doping... that there was a greater good to his means of success. doesn't seem as though he even thinks this. upsetting.
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 Lance,we all bought the story,cheered when you wasted the opposition in the Alps,lapped up your crushing time trials, to be honest even though you're a drug cheating scum bag you're achievements are still pretty impressive. And i am certain all your competitors were on it too,making your drug fuelled exploits almost legitimate.
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 *Rolls eyes* surprise surprise. Everyone knew Lance was doping, even before the allegations. Because EVERY top rider at the time was doping.... this truth should change nothing. He still won (fair and square in my books, as everyone else was also doping), he still raised millions for cancer research, and he still inspired people to get healthy. Lance's positive influences FAR outweigh anything else he has done.
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 Here's the thing, and I am by no means trying to condone Lances actions so keep this in mind. I know someone who was a top ranked cyclist in Arizona, and he had a chance to begin riding internationally based on his performance and sponsorship. He was clean the whole time, but he told me that after the first few event of coming in 100th or whatever, it starts to become very depressing. He talked with a few other internationally ranked cyclists, and around a month later he was doping for the first time. His results improved tremendously. I know this is very one-sided, but based on what he has told me, just about everyone on that level is doping, has doped, or had been doping for a long time. Lance doped, he lied about it, but consider this. There is a high likelihood that even if they aren't now, many of the cyclists we so love and support got to this level via performance enhancing drugs.
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 Epicthesavage said it right...Lance is still one heck of an athlete, but the fact that he boldly and so plainly lied to the world for so many years shows what kind of a person lies beneath the yellow jersey and the image he upheld. I think I'll go digging for my liveWrong bracelet now.
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 I think we should establish parallels in the world of professional sports. One avenue could be for the naturalists or purist. The second avenue could be for enhanced athletes, whether that is steroids for strenght or epo for endurance. Then we let the public decide which athletes and sporting event are worth watching. The point is that modern culture celebrates the exceptional and ingnores the average. There is no reward for normalcy and for the majority of you, you are wonderfully normal. There are however,people of normal and natural abilities that compete in sports that are primarily dominated by gifted individuals. So it is not hard to see why lance would do what he did for success and fame. After all, Hollywood does not make movies about average joes working a 9 to 5 gig and if they did, who would go see them. I don't believe that we will ever see and end to this type of story,because as long as we reward the exceptional among us, there will alway be those willing to do anything to be exceptional.
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 PEDs are rife in professional sports, especially in sports where a lot of money is involved... If you think otherwise, you're just kidding yourself. 17 out of the last 33 Tour de France winners have been caught or admitted to doping.... You can't honestly expect me to believe the rest of the winners are clean.
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 the bodybuilding scene is another target that Tygart should take on! steroids galore, investigations can be started and the whole sport can be a target. everyone knows doping goes on, how else can you develop 24 inch biceps? as Lance says, he did not have anything else that no one else had....he was the smartest of all and won on top of being gifted with marginal ability to cycle in the pro ranks. the numbnuts that now cry: oh, he made me do it....really, when the paychecks were coming in, what were you doing, calling Tygart or laughing all the way to the bank cause did not get caught?
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 Yes what he did was very wrong and shame on him, but.......if he never cheated he may never have become the champ he once was viewed as. He never would have been that guy that came back from cancer to win so many times, the phoenix rising from the ashes. He never would have been my idol as a kid. With that said his Livestrong foundation would have aslo never been such a huge part in cancer research and the great things it has done for cancer patients. So... In some weird way I thank him for being cheating scum that he is because as far as human well being goes, he has caused more good than bad by his decisions. You still an ass hat Lance!!!!!!
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 I love the excusse ' but every one else was doing it' some of you people are putting out there. How bout we all get on a plane go to india and maybe gang rape a few women? Seems to be what everyone else is doing over there........... Just because others are doing it doesnt make right f*ck tards
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 So not the same these guys were taking stuff long before it became illigal. They kept doing it after the rules changed. you are an idiot because you cannot tell between harm to self and harm to others. Had he put someone else on drugs your staement would have some relavence. Gang rape is harming others taking EPO or test is not harming anyone its breaking the rules but thats it pal wake up
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 Do you really think he hasnt harmend others with his actions? A life time of being force fed proporganda has fried your fragile little mind my friend, your just a sucker for heavily marketed f*ck wits. Your probably the type who watchers team america doesnt get the actual joke.
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 You cannot grasp a concept taking epo is within his own body! that has no real affect on others other than a rule being broken. A rape is a long term efffect on another person. if you cannot grasp that go get some therapy. And please dont rape anyone because your upset and think its the same thing as taking drugs.
As for him casuing harm ya he did and ya he made some mistakes we all make mistakes. If you were in his shoes and under attack would you counter attack. maybe maybe not he did. anyone he harmed was looking to profit in some way and trying to take him down. As for the ex wife well i dont think big sports stars should get married, until there done doing th sport and done screwing around. Force fed propoganda yeep thats why i have a contrarian perspective on this and you sound like a three year old whom just tuned in to CNN
F*
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 Your absolute inability to grasp the differnce between right and wrong only goes to show your very undeveloped mind!
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 sucks. I looked up to Lance in the bikers world and now he turned out to be a fake. sob. I still have respect for him because drugs or not, that's a hell of a career he made. wonder what he would have been like off drugs.?.
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 LOL he Fukin kicked ass on everyone on the field and some people cannot stand getting beat. This came about because of sore losers! Thats why he has been singled out. If he won one tour big deal but seven he is the KING of road racin. Dont be fooled all the journalist and former teammates were throwing him under the bus he fought back like a warrior and warriors win races. What do they say on wall street bulls make money bears make money and pigs get slaughterd. Well the massues the british paper Floyd there all pigs. Sorry but an intense man will win. The world adored his intenisty while he won. Now its shocking! LOL As for the pitty Party of the sponsors well Trek is doing just fine he did a good job putting them on The map. USPS WTF they are the post offfice part of the goverment not a business. No so what he lied so what he doped BFD I live in LA we have Kobe Bryant that guy ruined the Lackers chased Shaq off and Bullied guys like Gasol and Bynum into being half there potential. Yet I see lacker jersesy all of the city. Ohh a Kobe raped a girl in colorado. So give me a break Lance is a fierce competitor he is the champ dont be CHIMP and cut the man some slack.
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 Oprah has nipples the size of quarter pounders.
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 You want cheese with those ?
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 Hold the cheese. Extra mayo.
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 we are looking at this whole thing the wrong way. we should be looking at, look what drugs can do! it made Lance aamazingly strong and an unreal athlete. this could be like jason bourne shit.
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 Disgusting! Imagine all those people behind him asking, is he is on dope? no his is Lance Armstrong his is good! And I will blame the people behind his career for this, probably he did not have much choice.
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 i always wandered that if say takeing stanozolol or nandralone,is an advantage,then if you have an asthma inhailer,that enables you to breath normally or better than say someone that does not have or need one,you are in fact cheating,as nature intended someone with asthma not to excell a sporting person with out the aide of the chemicals in the inhaler,,this will ruffle some feathers lol,so i call for all that use an inhailer to be outcast as a cheat ,as without the drugs in the inhaler you would be weasing at the wayside,lol bloody oxygen theaves lol
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 I use an inhaler (asthma) and it does make me faster, but it's the crystal meth that really puts the spring in my step ....
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 I have 'sports related asthma' never use an inhaler I learned breathing techniques to over come it... It hasn't been easy and I sound like a train on time trials but I ride clean. I'm not against inhaler use but read a lot about people becoming dependent on them and asthma getting worse as a result, but IT WAS HARD, so I appreciate not everyone could do it.
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 I only had the inhaler for one year this febuary, last year i was coughing for six weeks non stop, and the last ten days the blood vessels in my upper respitory tract burst, I kind of ran out of options and time. I ve been riding almost everyday for seven years to keep it under control ! the meds are a last resort in my book!
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 When i was swiming in college there were swimmers that had to use inhalers between sets, I was in awe that they could pu there face underwater and know that they may come up unable to breath. Scarry to me but they did and after a hard 200 or 500 whatever they would hit that thing. The NCAA testing they passed but for usaswiming and USOC they would fail. In my book they had more courage than most do to be able to swim with asthma and yes it was a sterod inhaller
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 Like Lance said....doping in cyclying was as common as putting air in tires and water in water bottles. What makes Lance Armstrong different and better than every other elite cyclist....HE won 7 consecutative Tour's and did more for cycling than any person EVER will. Oh ya I forgot to mention the LIVESTRONG foundation as well. For all you righteous people that are quick to point fingers, lay blame and throw someone better than you under a bus to make yourself feel better......look in the mirror, what have you done in your life?

Remember we are all human.

Lance Armstrong will continue to be an inspiration to millions.

Thank you Lance!

LIVESTRONG
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 They all do substances. So, if they all do it they ran equal. He is a fair winner from my point of view!
In the end I guess we are dealing with a "junkies" sport!
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 Can't understand why everyone gives a fuck , so what he had his blood twisted , he made I piss load o cash outta it and probably doesn't give a fuck what we all think as he is too busy polishing his Ferrari
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 i couldnt care if he used drugs to win, the fact that he ruined other peoples lives makes him an Arsehole (with a capitol A) and he should repay them!
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 Fact
*all who are calling him names cannot ride for three min the way he can for an hour.
* was in a culture of elite that all did the same thing he did
*had he admitted to the use he would have thrown the rest of the racing elite under the bus and harmed the sport
*he has done more good for more people* than anyone on this thread could dream of.
*he may have harmed a few people but they were trying to harm him so that was a defensive action.
*He survived cancer and I happy for anyone that can do that.
*He put the work in to get there the whole idea that doping instead of training is something that a couch potatoe would think of. You have to train you ass off to to go that hard that long.
*Oprah was not the right person to do the interview it should have been an athlete while i like her and thik she is great she cannot keep 50 lbs off and has no idea of what it take to be a champion
as the audience watches here and sees here perspective it is much diffrent than someone who has been beat up after five days of traing and still going out to train.
+the thing with Lance that many forget it that why he is an insperation is his work ethic! Beyond that his ability to push past adversity a skill that is required of champions. So the concept that he is anything less than that is what the mainstream media has you thinking. Well i can say this to that during vietnam a lot of people were pissed off at jane fonda for here actions as a news caster and putting peoples lives at risk. maria Bartoloma on NBC had no idea what she was talking about suring desert storm.And no fluffy non athalets that cannot do one pull up or finish a spin class have a ton to say about Lance and his ethics and who he is and is not. If i was watchig CN N and Laird Hamilton was on there saying wow what a let down etc, I could hear that and repect that from him. But the main steam media going off on him. Not one of them has ever trained.
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 He did help raise millions for cancer recherche so at least some good came out of it! And those who say he had an unfair advantage that can be debated his body was destroyed chemo therapy and i'm pretty sure with his type of cancer his testosterone levels would of been non-existent so even with the doping his tes. levels might of only gone up to regular levels or maybe slightly above. So with this said the question shouldn't be. why he did this? but why isn't everyone doing this lol! jk ! I don't like the fact he out right lied about it for years tho that's a problem he will have to deal with tho not my problem.
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 f*cking prick....... wrong on every level, ruined 7 winners chances of a tour win. no remorse, f*ck him, take all his winning moneys off him, take him out the lime light ban him from writing a book and making more money of his cheating and let him rot, people like him shouldn't be inspirational roll models for people young and old, would be icing on the cake if he got "ill" again....
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 i just think that it is sad because of what he did. how he sued people with no remorse and how it now is hurting the sport. thanks a lot buddy for all you have done to and for the sport of cycling! (sarcasm)
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 love for greg lemond, true hero
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 I don't understand why he is the only one getting in trouble when pretty much all the other top guys were doing the same thing just doesn't make sense
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 Because he was the only one they got paid to snitch on.
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 i feel very bad! i dont understan why they are taking lace medals and titles? he won, and when they make the antdoping test ,he wsa negative. but a few years later everything change! WTF i dont feel this is 100%true or fear
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 does anyone actually think he was always telling the truth? most professional high paid athletes are on some sort of performance enhancing drugs, whether it's NFL, MLB, Pro Cycling, NHL, College Sports, etc. Society holds top performers on such a high pedestal, they probably feel they must use in order to get to the top. Not to mention that the better you are, the bigger the paycheck.....

now go pedal your bike and forget this sh*t!
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 Notice how all those sports you just listed were prodomently american ( minus the cycling)
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 Hokey is only a us sport? college sports US only ok ill tell cambrige that crew is not a sport , for our NFL you have football and non of those boys are on the juice Baseball is the only sport in his list that is unique to the US
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 AMERRRRICA!!!! Just shows that he is human and that the test regulations sucked ass back then and people just couldn't leave it alone. Sucks that he got caught but how many others were doing it to, sons of beeeeches
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 Just how fast could people be on drugs?

If they want to use drugs, give them their own events and lets see...

But that Armstrong....wow...what a self centred...self righteous prick!
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 LOL he Fukin kicked ass on everyone on the field and some people cannot stand getting beat. This came about because of sore losers! Thats why he has been singled out. If he won one tour big deal but seven he is the KING of road racin. Dont be fooled all the journalist and former teammates were throwing him under the bus he fought back like a warrior and warriors win races. What do they say on wall street bulls make money bears make money and pigs get slaughterd. Well the massues the british paper Floyd there all pigs. Sorry but an intense man will win. The world adored his intenisty while he won. Now its shocking! LOL As for the pitty Party of the sponsors well Trek is doing just fine he did a good job putting them on The map. USPS WTF they are the post offfice part of the goverment not a business. No so what he lied so what he doped BFD I live in LA we have Kobe Bryant that guy ruined the Lackers chased Shaq off and Bullied guys like Gasol and Bynum into being half there potential. Yet I see lacker jersesy all of the city. Ohh a Kobe raped a girl in colorado. So give me a break Lance is a fierce competitor he is the champ dont be CHIMP and cut the man some slack.
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 There is nothing more fundamental in human nature than cheating, we are designed to be selfish and make our own rules, fact. Anyone on here never cheated at anything....... Very doubtful.
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 Admitedly there is cheating and then there is taking massively liberties for a period of two decades to secure your dominance in your chosen sport.
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 Remember all those yellow rubber bracelets saying " Dopestrong " ha ha f*ckers, you bought it. You payed for it.

So Lance do a 360 tailwhip and shut your face.

So, can we now focus on important stuf like bonfires, beer, mtbiking??
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 Sad thing is when I was a kid i idolized this guy that is now so clearly a fraud. Up until recently I looked up to him and his perseverance but now I just look at him as a hug dissapointment and cheat. Way to drop the ball as a roll model lance. Huge let down for the youth, cyclists and cancer survivors/ patients that have looked to you as a roll model.
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 Well, I guess all this drama suddenly makes something as boring as road cyling interesting enough for ending up on pinkbike
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 all i want to know is what was he on, and whare can i get some,,yyyeeeehhhaaaa,ther all on it,and have been for years,watch bigger faster stronger on you tube its a great laff,supose you all think hulkhogan and stiolone are all streight lol,ther is a documentory about dopeing in the olympics,thay had all the old urine samples retested from the most famous dopeing scandle ,when jhonson won the 100metres back in the 80s,with the new uptodate ways of testing for steroids, all the samples had traces of stanozolol,so every runner was on it, but only the winner got tested,as for steroids in DH it takes a special kind of nut case to clatter a big rocksection or wip a 40 foot jump,compaired to road rideing that is more fitness than skill and bravery, not saying it doesent happen
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 It's easy to crucify one man and made him a black sheep. I am not telling that he is innocent - far away from that but what about people and great concerns which where also involved in all of that dope shit? Lance was using the most advanced dope program ever and it is not so simple to prepare this things in a garage ;-) Masive amount of cash, big farmacy companies and doctors should be also sued in my opinion. Lance gave them priceless informations about dope and humans body which they will use to earn more money.
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 Who here drinks Redbull or Coffee, or heaven forbid a shot of espresso before a bike ride. Several hundred milligrams of caffeine to “wake you up”. What is caffeine? A drug. We’re all dopers. :-O
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 I drink water and tea ,sometimes with a drop of fresh lemon but never taking drugs for sport........ :/
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 you are correct caffine is a USOC NCAA controled substance the thing is long aerobic work beyond 40 min caffine helps with a pathway to use fat as fuel. Short term it hinders ATP so why the NCAA bans it is odd because NCAA and most olympic sports require ATP for sucess
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 There were roadies in the 90s that didnt dope. The fact that you had to dope to win changed it from a bike race to a doping contest. Who knows how the field would have looked with no cheating. Lance is just a top level rider that had the best drugs and best support to deliver them.
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 It is doubtful that Lance was the best at doping. There is no evidence of that. By similar logic, simply by winning we could conclude that he had the best bicycle. That seems like a poor assumption.
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 dfiler- I suggest you look at the evidence in the report against LA and his team. I think it is safe to say they were pretty damn good at doping!
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 Of course they were good, they are professionals. There's just nothing to suggest they were the best at it. To know that you'd have to know how every other team of professionals doped.
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 Lets face it he's got to live with this for the rest if his life ! I hope the money was worth it !! And that he can sleep at night knowing that he made himself a false idol ! I feel sorry for his family .
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 still a f*cking legend! all you people ripping on him are jealous f*cks! he doped, yeah so what!? so did everyone else in the 90s and so does like half the people in any sport. he change the world of biking and raised millions of dollars for cancer! "oh but it was all built on a lie!" so then the money her raised and research they did was all pointless also because it was from a doper?! get f*cking real! how about you guys all get the level of cancer he had and go win anything! let alone live you selfish f*cks.
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 People need to realise he wasn't the only guy using performence enhacement drugs in that era, people need to stop making him out to be this first person to ever dope in sport.
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 big deal they are all doing it all the top riders are on something it is still crazy to think that he was able to win the tour 7 times with all the other top riders on the same drugs
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 Remember also that he did train 365 days a year and had since then trained a huge amount of pro athletes... the people that finished 6th in those races were most likely doing the same thing
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 At least he's sticking with his arrogant ignorance towards what he did instead of sitting with his tail between his legs. He cheated,he knows it and he cares no more morally than he did when he was doing it. He's come clean for his own "process" purposes and fair play to him. It shows whats out there and how it can almost super-humanly change the way you ride.
Either that or he was working with the CIA to develop performance enhancing drugs/methods for the US Army to administer to troops in foreign war zones. I'm going to go with the latter Smile
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 Why do I admire Lance Armstrong because knownig how tough he can be in adversity helps me get through a tough time. I swam in a college swim meet with a broken tibia and won that race. At the time I thought that was pretty tough but when i look at guys coming home from Iraq with on leg. Or what Lance pulled off after cancer. Well I am in awe I Have tremendous respect for him and zero respect for people calling him names If you are calling him names you are a loser hands down and I have no respect for you at all
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 I love how everyone flicks sh*t like they've never done anything bad. Yeah, he lied. Yeah, he's a douche. Yeah, he cheated. And yeah, he dominated 7 tours. My guess is better than half the field has or does now as well, if not more, and he still convincingly stomped them repeatedly every time. Badmouth the man, but respect the accomplishments and what the foundation did for many over the years. But yeah, he's a douche. As to the $120 million, I think that will get eaten away in litigation if he doesn't bail to a non-extradition country soon.

I actually find it a little humorous that people are now demonizing Lance, but blissfully turn a blind eye to this behavior everywhere else in daily life. Lance was no different than any other person that suddenly became extremely rich and powerful and became drunk on that power. Why do we despise that in a cyclist, but almost applaud it in politicians?
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 Agree with much of what you said but he is to be respected not called a Duche call him one what does that make you
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 After reading a lot more info and watching this, I think just on the 'doping' issue, he's no more guilty than the rest of his peer group. Lance cheated his way to victory along with a long list of other riders. He was just better at it than the others, the 'best' cheat so to speak.

Old badbadleroybrown, pointed me in the direction of some interesting reading hence why I'm no longer critical of Lance and his doping, a great proportion of the top riders were dirty but we're not getting ourselves in a spin about them. The fact that the minute their careers were over they sang like budgies gives good measure to their kinds of character and which way their moral compass swings.

He's was busted, now admitted it. So why the outrage? Lance was a really, really good cheat and won loads of shit, which has now been taken off him. I'm sure the money he won in countersuits will be leaving his bank in short order too.
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 He's an immoral lying pile of human trash. Suing people that were whistleblowing & telling the truth into oblivion is worth all the hatred he's receiving. He's a sociopath, period.
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 Hey Tim he sued people that were trying to take him down. You are letting they whole group of pro raodies AMGEN The UCI the Tour itself off the hook and calling him names call him trash I call you Trash
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 I'm letting them off the hook am I? I'm sorry, I didn't know I was the UCI. This is a conversation about Lance specifically though. As for the other dopers: screw them too. I'm happy when they get busted.

He sued people for telling the truth about him. He sued people for telling the truth about him. He sued people for telling the truth about him.

I said it three times so you might be able to contemplate what's wrong with that equation, moron. Whistleblowing is an important public service and there are laws to protect it.
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 He was a puppet for his sponsors. I doubt he made many decisions on his own. His sponsors would certainly require him to maintain his character at all costs (sue anyone that threatened his reputation). When you're dealing with the amount of money that Lance is tied up in, you can't just up and change your mind, as you're not the only hand in the pot. The guy worked hard and everyone is just jealous of his success. The sport is immoral, don't blame the golden boy.
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 Tim now say three times why they were so truthfull Because they are pillars of integrity? or had something to gain.?
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 Brad that is a good point as well as fund raising that has gone to good causes
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 F@CK IT! If everybody is doing it, just hold the DRUG OLYMPICS!! Haha. He should have quit and started his own clean tour in the states and revived cycling.
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 He's so brave admitting everything, of course he admitted everything after having millions in a bank....the sports commission should sue him and take away all his savings he earned from cheating...that will be fair for the whole world who adored him & respected him. no secrets/lie that cannot be uncovered...this is worst than murder at least murderers goes to jail how about Lance? what punishment will he be having after this???
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 It's the American way- it's not cheating if you don't get caught. Nascar is a good example. I think the strange part is that people act so horrified like they didn't know this goes on...
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 I heard that the one testicle he had left grow to the size of three. Thats how much balls it took to pull this off.
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 His was, is and always will be a legend. Nobody forget the 470 million dollars his organization raised to fight cancer.
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 He's not a legend, he's an arrogant brash c*nt. I wouldn't be too sure about his vanity organisation doing any good either: www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/athletes/lance-armstrong/Its-Not-About-the-Lab-Rats.html
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 Catagorically not a legend! As the old addage goes 'it's the thought that counts', and in light of recent events I don't think it's far fetched to suspect that Livestrong had as much to do with wreathing himself in glory and burying the 5hit deep under a huge pile of perceived goodwill as it did fighting cancer. Giving generously to charity does not excuse the lives he ruined. Emma O'Reilly, Betsy Andreu and the countless others he villified and railroaded in defence of his ill gotten gains are the ones that should be lauded for the successes of Livestrong. They did not choose to make those sacrifices though, Armstrong made them for them and he had absolutely no right to do so.
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 and can you really call it cheating if they all did it. if they all took the drugs then they all had the advantage just he was better regardless .
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 So tired of this shit , seriously i got other problems to worry about in life that actually effect me . If this comes to a shock to you then shame on you , any and every sport usually contains enhancing substances. He was the better cheater and out beat the other dopers . He should pay back any dues that he might owe or might have taken from others tho . We are only human , forgive but we dont forget . So anyways , back to reality ! Go shred Smile
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 Your still my boy Lance. Your still the man!
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 The UCI is complicit! How, without Armstrong, she could raise money (media, advertising, Tour de France etc etc ...) without him?
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 In other breaking news, The sports world is shocked by Hulk Hogan's confession that Professional Wrestling is scripted.
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 Everyone is overlooking the biggest story here. Oprah found her weight back!
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 Cool. I tried to post a charity road cycling event that raised money for sick kids in the Comox Valley and was told 'road cycling isn't our demographic.' Thanks PB for sticking to your guns and posting this crap.
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 His body language is defensive, his eyes can't stay in one place,he looks down and left when answering every question,looks like he's lieng to me.
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 Considering everything he's done in his career to try to keep himself from being caught, how likely is it that he initiated the Manti Te'O story?!?
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 (To lessen the impact of his confession, since most of the sports world is focused on that now, of course)
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 Wow there are a lot of people defending him and saying it is okay what he did , and that the tour is full of dopers so that makes it okay. First anyone claiming the tour is full of dopers needs to provide evidence, second there's probably a ton of people who don't dope how do you think they feel about the cheaters after all the training and hard work they do. Wow he did so much for cancer, yeah because he had it, If he did'nt have cancer do you think he would have done anything about it?, Oh wow he beat cancer, it's alot easier for people who are rich to accomplish this as they can offord all the best treatments and have the time to relax and heal properly. Honestly he is an arrogant selfish person stop defending him.
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 Hey Looserz I guess the world revolves around you and we should bring you some evidence of a pretty well know fact. Did you you that they rode the tour smoking cigs way back the whole world is full of people who take stuff. You can justify how you feel all you want but what you said implies lance took shit in instead of training. Everyone on the planet right here right now is a pussy compared to him doping or not. He did not dope instead of hard work he worked above and beyond
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 Hey douche what the hell does this have to do with the world revolving around me? Pretty well known fact does not prove that everyone was a doper and it doesn't excuse cheating, I personally don't care what people take, but when they do it to win and are arrogant and ruin other people lives then it is super lame. Not anywhere did I claim that he did not train, I'm sure he did train hard, most peolpe entering such a big event do, It's irrelevant to the topic. Smoke all the cigs you want when you ride fill your water bottle with scotch, and I'm pretty sure your not going to have a winning edge, they're not exactly performance enhacers, I get the impression that he is you're hero, that doesn't change a thing, try posting something relevant, don't go calling others loosers and getting your panties are in a bunch.
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 Your asking anyone defending him and saying that the tour is full of dopers to provide you evidence. LOL Ok Loazez or whatever. You dont know if people do or do not dope
All you really know is he beat cancer, he won seven times, and he doped.
you make beating cancer a no big deal really with that statement alone you are not half the man he is.
As for me He not my greatest hero by any means no I just am pissed off that the people pulling the pupet strings via media and shitty hearings got there way. I am sad to see that you are like silly putty and have a mind so easy to shape, that it takes so little for you to that others were not doping. But most of all the remendous courage to get back on the bike after nearly dying of cancer. You put that down ya ok then I call you looser, mentaly you are like putty and unable to use your head, fallowing what they want you to belive. Do you know who makes EPO?
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 Look buddy I don't want proof of anything, as you said you don't know if people dope or not, so you can't claim that every athlete in the tour is a doper. What we do know is that Lance is, by his own confession, and the fact that he tried to sue people and ruin their careers for exposing him is arrogant and hypocritcal. Beating cancer is a big deal, I feel bad for anyone dying of it, it doesn't excuse his actions that is my point, you can hate on me all you want it doesn't change anything. To say that I am silly putty, Ha, LOL as you say dude, you don't even know me, you are the puppet for defending him like he is your boyfriend. Yeah i know what blood doping is, It is a red blood cell booster, found naturally in the human kidney, that allows red blood cells to carry more oxygen to the muscles and it is boosted through blood transfusions, i don't care who makes it. I find it funny that you say I can't use my head take a look at your writing, I can barely understand what th fu*k you're trying to say you half wit. This is the last time I'm writing about this sh*t, say whatever else you want I'm done. Oh by the way it's loser ya loser douche, not looser
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 I can never watch Dodgeball again.
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 buahaha, they have to release a new DVD now, with Lance cut out, maybe they will have to record the cut again and put Michael Phelps in, but hell, how do you know if even that guy is not going to end up on Oprah? You can't be sure about anybody anymore - He got kicked out of Frosty Flakes already for smoking weed!

It's f*cking brilliant, Oprah did what UCI, USADA judges, prosecutors tried for yeaaaars! - don't f*ck with Oprah!
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 I think it's about time someone test's Brandon Semenuk for doping, cause that guy's banana's! Wink Little unfair though considering he live's in B.C lol
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 In a field full of Dopers the fact remains he was still the best one. Simply put I could take all the roids in the world and I would never win a Tour de France.
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 he still would done well without drugs
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 common sense.
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 I've been riding bikes for 7 years. Just because I'm 17 doesn't justify me knowing nothing. It's common sense because the margin that doping makes isn't that great. He won so many tours and was still at peak physical fitness. Also the fact that everyone else around that time was doping shows that if nobody was doping it would have been a very similar field. No matter what he did he was still a great cyclist. You can't pick him out for doing it when it was everything else. Personally I think you should calm down and not judge people by their age.
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 Also, he wasn't on drugs from the start. At the beginning of his career from when he was winning at 16 he was clean
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 Does this make rennie the greatest cyclist of all time now we know lance is a cheater ?
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 Why on Oprah? Why now? Did the statute of limitations for purjury run out?
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 They held his hand to the fire. There was a lot of pressure on his kid who was defending him publicly and take heat for it. He came forth as a father protecting his kid .
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 asshole, how can you lie about something like that for so long.. and yes he did raise alot of money for cancer but what about all the money he took from innocent people..
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 do you really think it was his personal scheme? the poor bastard just signed a contract, shitstorm followed. all he ever wanted was to win races, his contractors provided the means neccessary.

his wins are legit since others were juicin' too.
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 so he was held down and forced to take the drugs?? i think not.. other people may have been juicin' but they never ruined alot of other peoples lives by lying about it for over 10 years.. in my eyes hes an ass, to me he doesnt seem at all sorry in that interview, hes just sayin what we all want to hear!
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 yes, he was. it was either respect the contract, juice and get boatloads money or go f*ck yourself. he essentially sold his soul to the devil. i'm not really trying to defend the guy, i don't give a crap what happens to him, just trying to be realistic - there will always be dirty games like this when we are talking millions of $$$.

and whose lives did he ruin? it's not like he caused wars or something... maybe i have no idea, i never really paid much attention to the guy
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 Kezzy point your rage at changing the world man he is another biker just like you. Do you really think he went out and took money from people. Here in the US we have tons of non profits and some there money never reaches the peole it should . The good ones like wounded warrior make the solder get's 20% the foundation eats up 80%. He made money hand over fist and his rate to do a comercial was through the roof. He was not a ponzi scheme. If you have some knowlege I dont send it too me
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 I have lost ALL respect and credibility for Lance my past hero
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 cycling is a shit sport to race it is fun to do with with your mates but everyone of them are probably doping and dont deserve the glamour they get that downhillers dont get.
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 Every one use drags in this race But not everyone takes the Tour de' france seven times with drags He's still a HERO for ever.
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 Charming! Made me think of the snake Kha in the Jungle book Disney movie. Same shifty eyes.
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 Why didn't he get dope tested every year after winning 7 times?
Why now?
There is more to this surely this just straches the surface.
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 repay all the money he amassed then who will be smiling then? Make him do 10 years of community service for free then no smile at all ....what do you reckon?
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 So what he nada few sheepskin rugs , and made 120 million quid outta it , fair game I say, wouldn't mind being a pound Hyundai him
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 lulz, everyone and their mothers knew roadies were medical experiments, this crap is ridiculous
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 THIS IS A F*CKING CONSPERICY!!!!!! Every single goddamn road p*ssy uses endorcements!!!!! They are just picking on him because he is one of the biggest names in sports and the media loves drama. Imagine how much money all the sponsors, reporters, new stations etc. make off of us watching this crap. Hardly anything we watch on tv nowadays is real. I bet u that the big coorperations payed him big money to all of a sudden confess to something every rider does just so that they get even more money from use getting hooked ...What im trying to say is never ever believe the bullsh^t you hear on tv unless you are actually there witnessing it happen.
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 You do what you have to do to be on top! Nobody remembers the guy who finished last, do they!? Big disappointment, but life is full of disappointments.
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 The last place finisher in the Tour de France is actually a big deal and gets quite a lot of endorsements as a result!
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 Well that wasn't so hard was it!
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 To many haters here. I couldn't give a damn if he doped. He was still an athlete and smashed every other rider who was doping at exactly the same time. He still trained hard to get that level of fitness. EPO just enhanced muscle recovery rate by importing more oxygen to the blood. The only thing I don't like is the screwing people over. Plenty of people fed off lances game at the time and here they are now feeding off him again by outing him.....they are vermin!
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 Its just a massive disappoint everything he said in his novel was a complete and utter LIE, he is now known as a cheating scum bag in the cycling world
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 ha ha true... look out for sequel where in it he tells the truth !! nah that'd never work !
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 It should also condemn the laboratories that produce dope!
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 Know why they don't give stripped titles to the next in line? That's right...........
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 the winner of that race is not the fittest , but the One who has the Best Chemist !!
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 Too little, too late. Doesn't even seem remorseful, he's so corporate.
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 Who reads all these comments?!
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 Anyone else see a connection between this article and Ryan Leech's article today?
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 As Harvey Dent states in Batman, "You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
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 www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOxQ6aEWNJU

This should get viral. The take of some Japanese TV on Armstrong's confession. Friday's WTF
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 Nice vid Waki; not Japanese though. Sounds to me very much like Chinese (but it could be Korean).
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 HA! That video contains the meaning of life....
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 I deeply apologize for my ignorance...
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 He's only remorseful he got caught
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 So true...this and some monetary gain are the only reasons he came clean. otherwise, he could care less...
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 Think it's time to head to the winchester, have a pint and just let this all blow over
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 I'm amazed by two things... 1. That there are actually people out there who didn't know that Lance and every other rider of that era was doped to the teeth... 2. That those same clueless idiots are somehow offended by something that has no bearing on their lives... Reality check people... if they rode in the 90's or early 2000's, they were doping!
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 man get over yourself! people are gonna say whatever. And believe it or not, it is not your job to enlight us all on your "textbook" knowledge. anyone can read a book or a column and think they know everything. so shhhh Smile your starting to embarras yourself
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 He does not think he was a cheat because he seen it as getting to a level playing field.
What a Tw*t
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 twit? or pregnant goldfish? Wink
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 Twat has never meant pregnant goldfish.
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 I think the suggestion was to use less colourful language... Hard when you think fo of the lives and livelihoods the guy has ruined
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 Am I the only one who wishes this explodes in the UCI's face and pretty much removes them from existence...
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 and after all i respect him!
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 get this off pinkbike....
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 I think it's newsworthy, but I kind of agree, who cares about skinny wheels and budgy-smuggling, lycra wearing, drug cheating pavement hounds?! Mountain biking is alive and well, screw road cycling and their rubbish.
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 I bet everyone now is wondering why the hell they bought his bracelets. Haha, suckers.
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 systematically sued people who were telling the truth...
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 Riding bikes is for fun. If you take it beyond that, you're flawed
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 If everyone alse was on EPO wouldn't he still have won ??
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 I agreed with a Protour comment And i even positive proped it :O What is happening to the world. THIS IS YOUR FAULT LANCE
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 So, how much money did he get for an exclusive interview with Oprah?
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 i say fair play to him taking all the stuff for that long and not getting caught, its not as if he was the only one doing it, so whats the drama.
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 Lance Armstrong, hated on for doping, who cares, raised massive amounts of money for cancer... Still a hero, don't hate.
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 still needs balls to admit all of it... Many wont do it...
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 Don't give a fk. He is not the first and won't be the last.
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 Deep down inside, i am hoping they drop road cycling from the olympics and add dh mtb instead
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 and that would be exactly the day when DH becomes the same drug-powered, money-powered sport, that noone cares about. Personally I think, gravity disciplines should never be included in the Olympics, just because they are kind of more "pure" sports.
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 What if they start testing MTB / BMX for ummmm lets say pakalolo (marijuana)
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 Still one of my favorite athletes, he stood out above the rest, sure he was doping but they were too!!!!
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 In my opinion he shouldn't be rememberd as lance the drug taking cyclist he should be rememberd as lance the cyclist that beat cancer
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 Just another reason to hate a road biker..
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 bit stereotypical don't you think? Just because one person doped, you use that as an excuse to brand all people that ride road? IMO you're just another reason to be ashamed of mountain bikers' ignorance.
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 1 person????? they all doped lance just did it better
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 Yes i know but this story is about one person isn't it. Also he didn't dope better he was just fitter and they all doped to a similar level. Why are you replying to all my comments? bit weird go away
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 It only takes one person to bring down everything whether it's a sports empire or a drug cartel. What a farce!
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 i dont care who doesnt like it, he is still lance mother fucking armstrong!
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 So where i can get performance enhancing drugs for high country rides?
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 He needs to apologize to us for having to actually watch the Oprah Winfrey Network!
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 Give Dave Weins back the Leadville 100!
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 wonder if Dave was doping also....
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 Blah blah blah. Move on.
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 At least he had the ball to come clean Smile
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 At the end of the day if it wasnt him it would be someone else. was he stupid for doing it? or was the governing body stupid for not catching him??
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 I think he had a lot of balls just coming out honestly like that..... Smile
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 Yea thank you for convincing me ultimately that even biggest "ought to be respected" newspapers like Guardian are cesspits. I wish the author of the article and others of his like, continous income from further articles on the issue. I also wish their readers more happy time away from their own problems
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 Totally valid for Testo imo...dude's running low Big Grin
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 Fool, he's obviously not heard of Lucozade!
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 kill'em!
kill'em!
kill'em!
kill'em!
kill'em!
kill'em!
kill'em!
kill'em!
... and how can I belive in fair-play??
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 What a dumbass, he needs to return the money he made every last penny!!!! He is still hiding something or some one.
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 Brandon Semenuk dopes. It is a fact.
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 I think he Smokes his though.................
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 UCI testing for FMB tour!

Maybe then us humble PB'ers could get up the ranks of the FMB tour Smile
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 sorry lance armstrong..you lied waaaaaay to long...shame on you!
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 Good thing he was riding for the postal team. Free shipping on all his supplements.
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 Who really cares?! Media outlets are flooded with this over dramatized event... More MTB news please!
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 I got lots of THC in my system, hope I don't get banned from my local trails.
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 I'm still a Fan. Maybe not as big a fan as I used to be though.
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 I'll always be in awe of the physical prowess he demonstrated in winning 7 tours. I don't think that will ever disappear, despite his being stripped of them. No small feat, yes, tainted forever now.
What I've lost respect for is his character. That he did his best to ruin the reputations of those who called him on his behavior (or behaviour). I will be interested to see what the legal ramifications are for him to have knowingly, willfully and wantonly try to ruin the careers of those who spoke out.
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 I heard he had been "bullying" people in the pinkbike forums for years. So glad thats over!
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 They should give gwin a piss test, that fucker wins everything!
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 It's probably the helium they put in his tires... helps him float over the gnar.
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 Gnar is my new favourite word!
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 Please some one tell us somthing we don´t know allready!!!
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 Dudes only got one nut, give him a break
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 good.. skin the other one off too!
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 He may not need a break, but regardless, there should be some respect for cancer survivors and we shouldn't be joking about it. To me, the saddest part of it all is all those kids he gave hope to through the Livestrong foundation that now have altered hopes in their recovery.
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 He doped, he lied, blah blah blah. Let's get back to riding. It's time for the sport (and all of us) to move on.
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 What was he on and where can I get some!
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 Next pinkbike product pick
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 He should have saddlebags on his bike to carry all of his baggage!
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 Who cares that he was taking drugs
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 F^cking roadies
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 Did you ever ride your bike sober..? No...
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 Another cyclist that is gone in the history as a cheater and lyer and he is a shame to the cycling sport
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 I'm glad I just returned my live strong hoodie Razz
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 good old lance
did what he needed to do" to WIN,,,,,,,,,,,"
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 As if we didn't know that roadies are douchebags ; )
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 he wants all his money taked off him and loked up for frod
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 We are all human and we all make mistakes. I have massive respect for Lance as he confesses to the world. Who else can say the same? Not many.
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 To be fair, there are a few people in the Tour De France that haven't admitted to doing the same thing as Lance, I respect him for admitting to it, but I don't respect him for cheating.. :/
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 no respect for admitting it. he was already found guilty. thats like a chump in jail who claimed not guilty coming clean once behind bars.. so what?
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 respect for admitting y'r kidding ... 20 years later and the lives he destroyed in the process with his bullying... you are got be fucking kidding me
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 Who else admitted after they got caught? David Millar. He wouldn't have come clean if he wasn't caught. The same way that Hincapie, Zabriskie, Leiphimer, CVV, Danielson, and Michael Barry wouldn't have admitted doping if they weren't trying to save their own careers and their reputations. All of those guys should have received longer doping suspensions than 6 months. They get 6 months for cooperating, even though they all had evidence against them and they were under oath. That isn't cooperating, that is damage control...
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 He confessed to doping but he hasn't come clean about the truly evil things he did. He sued people and attempted to ruin them financially and destroy their reputation. He actively tried to ruin people's careers because they were telling the truth. Listen to his words. At least on the first night, he didn't address that. He characterized his bad actions as attempting to control the narrative. That shows that he's still unwilling to admit to his wrongdoing. What he did was to actively try to ruin people's lives. Doping is a side issue.
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 people who give him respect for admitting are just another example of how manipulative he is, for one he was already caught really and the bigger isue is how he just trampled on anyone who defied him.
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 The people who threw him under the Bus did so for personal gain!
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 Dont beleive this so called confession, that fool doesn't know how to tell the truth.
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 www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/20946301

I think this woman summarized the issue quite well.
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 It only takes one person willing to talk to bring down a sports empire or a drug cartel. What a farce!
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 So.... to recap. Steroids make you a winner. I knew this all along.
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 Behave Poor guy-only has one egg
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 What will you do after get caught? Confession is a mean to an end.
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 Well he won`t be racing anymore.But i think he will figure a way to make himself feel better with 120 mills...
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 that was predictable.
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 The UCI must be so ashamed of their beloved road cycling.
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 He took performance enhancing drugs and so did everyone else, so he still beat all the other dopers so he still won.
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 Yeah he did a lot for the cycling world, but he also CHEATED, LIED and CORRUPTED the cycling world. Prick.
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 Years will pass and he'll only ever be remembered for one thing... c'est la vie.
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 I think you shouldn't have fragmented the video...
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 That's what team wants to win, riders have to cheat and say no to the dopping
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 It is so sad that such a great athlete totally ruined his life. Frown Cry
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 OK now we want to know Steve Peat's secret Big Grin
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 Balls and passion
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 .......At least he had the 'ball' to come clean finally Wink
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 A life build on lies and still achieved the american dream... shame!
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 Would you admit to your Mom that you're looking at porn? Same concept!
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 Liestrong! BANNED FOR LIFE.
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 Hah! This is amazing! This year Tour De France will have a record viewers stats! There will be millions more people sitting on couches going: Did you know they have so many castles in France? So who's the best team now? Mah, they're all on dope anyways!
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 All those people he sued and now their lives are ruined.
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 Just goes to show, better off minding our own business.
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 You have got to be kidding me. Whistleblowing is an important service to society, I hope the people he screwed thorough lawsuits designed to protect his lying & cheating come back at him tenfold in court.
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 You're right, none of us would have known the truth about road racing otherwise...
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 Pardon my ignorance, he should have been able to do what he wanted with impunity since he's cancer Jesus and an American hero. No consequences for rich people, right?
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 Nobody becomes rich and famous without screwing someone over somewhere along the line. We'll pardon your ignorance this once, but just remember to mind your own business and none of this will matter in the slightest.
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 Thanks for the pardon from you and whoever the hell "we" is. I'll be over here giving no f#cks what moral relativists and people willing to turn away from what's right think.
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 Profanity, nice touch. That'll help get your point across to the ignorant at least. There are so many things you could do for the world that actually matter instead of moan about what we already know about Lance Armstrong. If you care so much about being the world's moral policeman, do something about it. Oh, wait, you're too busy making money off all the trails the rest of us work so hard to build. You have the right to vote. Aside from that, you're wasting your time.
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 Hey Brad,

It is possible to express a public opinion about an immoral act or person and be able to "do good" in other areas of one's life simultaneously. I'm sorry if multitasking is difficult for you, although that's probably not true since you're able to build trails, jump and take self portraits at the same time.

You know nothing about me, bud. You don't know what charities I donate to, what trail work I do or anything else. Thanks for taking it to that level though, I'm sure you don't sound like a hater to everyone else.
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 The desire to win at all cost really does say it all
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 Chuck Norris never doped..................fin
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 HYUNDIA ? Hahhahahahahah
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 screw him I believed in him
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 LIESTRONG OUT ON DRUGS
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 gotta do what you gotta do!
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 Blinding the world with science
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 I heard Lance gave Sheryl Crow the CANCER!!!!!!!!
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 CHEATS are NO CHAMPIONS!
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 oprahs bang tidy.xx
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 ARE YOU ON DRUGS??????????
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 What a relief it must be to crawl out from under such an immense lie.
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 He may as well of rode the Tours on a motorcycle.. He had an unfair advantage and he is a cheat. Simple!
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 Winning on drugs is like fucking for virginity.......
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 Classic. Ever watch the Olympics?
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 No, that's fighting for peace....! Lots of support for Lance, and fair enough...most of us who use this site ride and know the pain...
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 By the way, I used EPO (prescribed legitimately) for a few years...it is the ducks guts....
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 Maybe Protour was right...
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 I would destroy that twiggly little juicer in a downhill race anyhow "."
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 He would kick your arse bud he rides enduro's and XC.
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 so thats like saying he would beat phelps at fly because he can swim breastroke
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 no it's not. He will train downhill etc also. He is a cyclist so will have to train different disciplines to get better. He would have trained downhill for the downhill cornering aspects etc of road. Of course I don't know this but i doubt you would 'destroy' him, considering i'm pretty sure you've never ridden with him.
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 Phelps lost his edge hands down He was out swam on this olympics.
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 he's still pretty good though haha Smile
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 Your full of it. Don't even try to compare XC or enduro road crap to DOWNHILL. He'd get 10 helicopter rides off of the Canadian Open in Whistler before seeing me on the bottom 1/2 once
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 Did you not see the tour where he went off the road to avoid Beloki who wrecked in front of him? He handled that really well, and it looked steep and rough as f*ck. I bet he can handle himself quite well on any bike, any day. You don't spend thousands and thousands of hours on a bike and not come away knowing how to handle them. The overhead view doesn't do it justice, it was actually quite steep.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=haEbtHiUcBc
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 road crap? phahaha. Road riders are a lot more hardcore than downhill riders. Just because it doesn't look as cool doesn't mean it's a load of crap. You seem pretty up yourself mate not gonna lie, People like you give it all talk over the internet but can't ride for shit. I ride both disciplines so I know which is harder. I'm sure if this happened you you, you'd be balling your eyes out like a little baby www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBE98Raljwo
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 www.youtube.com/watch?v=44-2bkH1nSc

Pretty awesome considering how old he is! And his riding technique is good.
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 Anybody has a vomit bag, please?!
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