Lapierre 2014: Mid-Sized Wheels for Spicy and Zesty and a Wicked 29er

Jul 3, 2013
by Richard Cunningham  
 
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Lapierre recently announced it was staking claim to the North American mountain bike market with a full model range and a Seattle-based distribution network. Last week in Chatel, France, Lapierre debuted its 2014 Zesty AM/trail and Spicy enduro bikes - arguably the most relevant models that it will offer to North American riders and to its global customers as well. The launch began with the news that Lapierre had completely redesigned its flagship models around 27.5 inch wheels - and that the French bike brand will no longer be making 26-inch wheel mountain bikes in its elite and enthusiast ranges. Three days later, Nico Vouilloz, the man who was instrumental in designing the new chassis, raced the 2014 Spicy Team to victory in the Val D’Allos Enduro against a stacked field.

Lapierre Spicy Team 927
  The all-new Spicy Team tops Lapierre's 2014 range. Nico Vouilloz has been a contender on the European Enduro circuit, so it should come as no surprise that the carbon-framed racing machine that he created to be his personal weapon has the numbers and the component spec to get the job done.

bigquotesThe new Spicy is a bike you can go to war with - a true all-mountain bike. The longer cockpit and short stem is noticeably better than last year's Spicy and the geometry feels spot on. The front is super stable - due as much to the new frame numbers as it is to the outstanding performance of the 35-millimeter-stanchion RockShox Pike fork. Landings were butter soft. Step-downs went unnoticed, roots and chatter passed under the wheels without a raised eyebrow, and all the while, the e:i shock kept the bike coiled, ready to accelerate or climb with the agility of a 120-millimeter XC bike. I ran the e:i system in 'Auto-One' - the mildest setting - and didn't need additional pedaling firmness. The Spicy felt lightweight, but not so much that it got sketchy at high speed when the rocks and roots were crazy bad. The Spicy aced trails that I was flailing down a day earlier.


Chatel's bike park and surrounding trails are a trial-by-fire for both riders and equipment, offering up some of the steepest descents in the French Alps, replete with slippery, anaconda-sized roots and rocks-a-plenty. This is the Alpine setting where Nico and the Lapierre engineering staff do much of their testing. For us, Chatel's mountains and rapidly changing weather provided a substantial, sometimes intimidating, palette of technical conditions that left few gray areas when the time came to form our opinions about the new Lapierres. As I am out with a broken wrist, PB photographer and good friend Colin Meagher stepped up to the plate to furnish the riding impressions for this feature.

The story here was far more than big wheels, however. Lapierre's new OST+ chassis is longer, lower and its suspension is re-curved to be more responsive across its 150-millimeter range of travel. The Spicy's sexy looking carbon frame uses a four-bar Horst-Link type suspension, and tests stronger and stiffer in all aspects compared to its predecessor. The carbon frame is also duplicated in a French-made, high-strength 6000-series aluminum alloy called 'Supreme 6' to provide a more affordable version of the Champ's favorite ride. Dropper posts and one-by drivetrains are featured deep into the Spicy and Zesty ranges, and Lapierre selected their components from some of the most respected players in the Enduro and All-mountain arena. Note: North American MSRPs were not available. We will post them when they arrive.

Lapierre Spicy Team component spec
  Nico received a full SRAM sponsorship this season, which is reflected in Lapierre's widespread use of one-by-eleven XX1 and the newly released, X01 drivetrains. Nico also is racing on the Lapierre/RockShox e:i electronic suspension system, which was released last year. E:i will come standard on top models, and will also be an option on second-tier Spicys and Zestys.


Spicy OST+ Frame Construction

There is a lot going on with the new Spicy chassis. The top tube has been lengthened ten to 15 millimeters, depending upon frame-size, to compensate for short stems in the range of 40 to 70 millimeters, and the bottom bracket has been lowered slightly to improve the bike's cornering and its performance over rough terrain. The shock mount and location has been adjusted to make room for reservoir-type shocks, which was a complaint with previous models among the enduro crowd.

Spicy and Zesty frame details
  Lapierre's new Spicy and Zesty 27.5 platforms share exactly the same 150-millimeter-travel frame. The denominator between the two is that the Zesty gets a lighter-weight component spec that favors all day adventures, while the Spicy touts the new 160-millimeter RockShox Pike fork (more about that later), enduro-strength tires and wheels, and a Nico-approved DH feeling cockpit setup.


Lapierre included both internal and external routing for the brake hoses and dropper seatpost to expand the options for servicing and upgrading those items. Entry ports for internal cable routing are included on both sides of the head tube area, and exit points are sealed with rubber liners. Bottom brackets now use press-fit bearings and feature ISCG chainguide bosses throughout the range. Another plus is that, while top Zesty and Spicy models have single chainring cranks, a pivoting front derailleur mount is integrated into the swingarm pivot to keep the changer aligned with the chain as the suspension cycles. All models that feature dropper posts use internal cable routing like the RockShox Reverb Stealth.

Lapierre Spicy frame details
  Spicy frame up close: (Clockwise) Lapierre tucked the post-mount brake caliper behind the massive Horst-Link-style dropout to keep it safe. A screw-on carbon bash guard on the downtube wards against rock strikes, and ISCG-05 chainguide tabs give Spicy owners a second option for race day. The large aluminum rocker link will be replaced by a carbon one. Lapierre uses a Y-strut extension behind the shock to moderate the suspension's rate curve. The new strut is forged aluminum.


OST+ Suspension

Expiring patents regarding Horst-Link-type rear suspension has freed Lapierre to sell its OST+ design in North American markets. Carbon lends itself to large shapes, and one would be hard pressed to find a burlier seatstay than those on the new Spicy chassis. Oversized rectangular-profile seat stays terminate at huge clevis-type pivots that rock on a pair of sealed ball bearings. The chanstay/swingarm is of similar proportions, but it is made from aluminum in all frame offerings for better durability. Man-sized seat stays are not a fashion statement - they are necessary to maintain stiffness, as there is no reinforcing bridge anywhere along their length. The shock is driven through a forged aluminum rocker-link that will be replaced by a carbon fiber one when the -9 and -7 carbon models reach the dealer's floors. A-la specialized, Lapierre uses a V-strut to connect the link to the shock's rear eyelet. Previously this piece was a rather crusty-looking steel item. The new V-strut is a good looking, forged-aluminum part. Lapierre moved the bearing locations and reconfigured the pivot axles to make replacing and servicing the bearings a much simpler process than before.



The virtual pivot point of the OST+ suspension lines up with the chain in the middle cassette cog. This reportedly uncouples
pedaling from the suspension in the sagged position, and helps return the suspension to the neutral position after an event.
Lapierre photo

OST explained: OST+ refers to a relationship built into the suspension linkage that presents a virtual pivot point that is well ahead of the bottom bracket and which forms an imaginary line along the chain, from the middle cog on the cassette, through the top of the chainring at the crankset. This configuration reportedly helps to eliminate almost all pedal feedback and also works to return the rear suspension to its proper ride height after an event. OST's seatstay-mounted caliper uncouples braking forces from the suspension as well.




About e:i

Lapierre co-developed e:i (electronic Intelligence) electronics with the assistance of one of France's top technical universities, and then partnered with RockShox to develop the Monarch e:i RT3 shock. The E:I system uses a electric servo-motor to drive the Monarch shock's modified low-speed compression adjustment - which in normal situations, is manually operated to switch the pedaling platform on or off.

Lapierre e i pics
  RockShox's Monarch e:i RT3 damper (left) can be manually operated in a pinch. The e:i brain is located in the stem, so the display can be stowed in a pocket or pack should you plan to get rowdy, and e:i will operate without the display. E:i's remote control (right) requires very little real estate on the handlebar and its textured buttons are easy to use.

bigquotesE:i in action is seamless - I couldn't feel it turn the shock on or off - ever. At sensitivity levels higher than Auto One, though, I could sense a slightly rougher ride over small bumps and chatter.

The brain of e:i, mounted inside the fork's steerer tube, records the speed that the bike is travelling and also, the severity of every bump that the the fork contacts and then it orders the shock to remain locked out; open up completely; or to open partially, depending upon the magnitude of the impact. A magnet fitted inside any standard bottom bracket axle tells the computer if the rider is pedaling, which signals the shock to firm up. The result is a dual-suspension bike that sucks up the terrain and manages to pedal like a hardtail - without asking its rider to flip levers or make decisions along the way.

e i suspension details


The speed of the e:i system makes all that happen in one hundredth of a second - which means that the shock will be ready for the bump before it hits it at speeds at or below 36 kph (22mph). A down tube-mounted rechargeable battery powers the system, which defaults to wide open if it should exhaust the battery or fail for any reason. Four sensitivity levels of bump control are available, from near lockout to full open, at the touch of a handlebar-remote button. the Monarch e:i RT3 shock retains its manual rebound adjustment and there is a three-millimeter hex below the electronics that allows users to adjust the pedaling platform with an Allen key should the system become inoperable as well. The LCD display reminds the rider which mode the shock is in and it provides all the important modes of speed, time, and distance information.




Zesty: 12 Different Models

Zestys are broken into two groups: Zesty AM in 27.5 and Zesty TR 29ers - which gets a little confusing, because, outside of the fact that the (elite models) Zesty AMs have mid-sized wheels and a one-by-eleven drivetrian and the Zesty TR models have big wheels and a two-by-ten, the Trail and All-Mountain Zestys are equipped to do exactly the same tasks. In effect, Lapierre has six versions of the Zesty am with 27.5-inch wheels, each with 150-millimeter suspension and 32-millimeter-stanchion forks and six similar Zestys in a 120-milimeter 29er version. Presumably, Lapierre produces the various Zesty models to satisfy niche markets among its global customers, otherwise, explaining the strategy would require most of the text in this feature. The bright side of the proliferation of Zestys, is that there are female-specific versions in every category. During Lapierre Camp, we had the chance to ride the Zesty AM 527 - which sits two steps below the full-carbon 927 AM model. The Zesty 527 AM features identical geometry and the same carbon front section, but has an all-aluminum rear suspension. We also rode the Zesty TR 959 - the top-level 29er.

Zesty AM 527 Impressions

Lapierre Zesty AM 527
  Lapierre's Zesty AM 527 has a carbon front section with a Supreme-6 aluminum rear suspension. The drivetrain is a combination of Shimano XT and SRAM, with a Race Face Turbine two-by-ten crankset. The 527 also introduces the 2014 Race Face AM wheelset.


bigquotesLapierre's Zesty AM 527 changes directions in a heartbeat. It feels super 'flickable' with a front end that can be easily snapped of the ground and with remarkable pedaling response. Those are its strong points - and if you ride fast, flowy trails, where climbing is a fact of life, the combination of 27.5 wheels under a rigid, responsive carbon chassis like the AM 527's will be tough, if not impossible to match. That said, the Zesty AM feels like a 150-millimeter trailbike - not the sturdy all-mountain candidate that it is billed to be. Its 32-millimeter-stanchion Fox CTD fork cannot hang with the AM crowd any more, and its Schwalbe 2.5-inch Nobby Nic tires are equally short on toughness. The Zesty AM is wonderfully easy to ride. It feels sure in the air and sticks to the turns like a monkey holds onto a football, but when the pace and intensity of the ride reaches the point that we consider 'all-mountain,' the Zesty is out of its comfort zone. Most of the pieces are there to fulfill its intended role: a two-by drivetrain, a dropper post, powerful brakes, wide handlebars, and a capable 150-millimeter-travel chassis - all it needs to grow into an AM bike is a burlier fork and some enduro-strength tires - but that would make it into a Spicy ...almost. Lapiere's Zesty AM would be hard pressed in a Squamish-type environment, but it would be the perfect bike for an aggressive rider on fast-paced, flowy trails like those found in Park City or Sun Valley - even Sedona.


Lapierre Zesty AM 527 specs
  A close-up look at Lapierre's rear caliper mount (left). The entry ports for the carbon frame have integrated stops and include wire guides for the e:i system. Lapierre's internal cable routing is one of the best we've seen.


Supreme-6 Aluminum Chassis

Lapierre managed to render the all-aluminum version of its OST+ chassis in nearly identical proportions to the carbon model. The use of double-pass welding to smooth the transitions between tubes and the forged pivot junctions makes it tough to tell the carbon from aluminum. Weights were not given to compare the two frames, but the enhineers hinted that it was roughly a pound in the medium sizes, with similar stiffness.

Lapierre Zeaty AM Supreme-6 aluminum frame details
  A look at Lapierre's all-aluminum Zesty AM 427 details how well it duplicates the smooth profile of the carbon fiber chassis. Al but the least expensive, Zesty AM 327, have internally routed dropper posts. The 427 uses a KSS LEV instead of the RockShox Reverb Stealth found on the big-spender models.




Lapierre's Killer 29er

Lapierre's commitment to mid-sized wheels hints that it may have bypassed the 29er, but such is not the case. As we were to discover, the Zesty 929 TR 29er may be one of Lapierre's stand-out trailbikes. Lapierre's written breakdown of wheel-diameters and suspension travel places the Zesty 929 in the XC/trail category. With a reduction in suspension travel from 150 to 120-millimeters at both ends of the bike, that seems fair enough, but the combination of big wheels, Lapierre's precise handling OST+ chassis and its contemporary frame numbers boost the 929 TR's performance to match or exceed any of Lapierre's Zesty 27.5 models. Zesty 929 and 729 share carbon frames, e:i rear suspension, and SRAM one-by-eleven drivetrains. The elite-level pair are followed by two more models: the carbon/aluminum framed 529 and two Supreme-6 aluminum-framed versions. Sadly, as capable as the 929 is, none of Lapierre's 29ers are spec'd with dropper posts, although the cable routing for such is in place.

Zesty TR 929 Impressions

2014 Lapierre Bikes Zesty TR 929 E I
  Zesty TR 929 E:I models have 120-millimeters of wheel travel at each end and with the electronics switched on, their instant power transfer and big-wheel security in the rough make for a spectacular ride. Arguably, the TR 929's performance handily eclipses that of the 27.5-wheel Zestys.


bigquotesWe rode Lapierre's 29-inch wheel Zesty trailbike last and discovered by the end of the day, that the Zesty TR 929 was the must-ride bike of the entire 18-model Zesty lineup. Yeah, it only has 120-millimeters of suspension. Yeah, it has the same skinny Nobby Nic tires, but when you get on the gas and push it hard down a rolling track, weaving through Chatel's anacondas, the TR 929 feels confident and in control. Granted, we rode the most elite 29er in the Lapierre lineup - a full carbon frame hung with SRAM XX, and sprung with an electronically-controlled shock should kick butt both up and down the mountain. Perhaps the combination of a truly rigid and lightweight frame, the pedaling response of e:i suspension and the roll-over of the 29-inch wheel conjures up some sort of black magic, but only the Spicy could out-perform the TR 929 in Chatel. Underway, the 929 only whispers that it has big wheels, its geometry somehow sharpens up the steering response and there is little if any sense that its wheelbase is any longer than a small-wheel bike. Could the Zesty TR 969 be classed as a true all-mountain bike? Not really. We overran the tires and the suspension often enough, but it comes close - wonderfully close.


lapierre TR 929 E I Specs
  The OST+ frame's seat tube (left) is offset to the left and flared to provide the most rigid pivot location possible for the swingarm. Easton EA90 aluminum wheels were impervious to Chatel's rocks and roots, Schwalbe's 2.25-inch Nobby Nic tires, however, suffered many punctures there. The e:i battery bolts to the down tube bottle mount (bottom right) - and we had nothing but good words for SRAM's XX1's just right for 29ers, 30 x 42 low gear.




XR 929: XC-Racing 29er

Much the same as last year, Lapierre's 100-millimeter-travel, full-carbon-framed XR 929 and 979 are a little left of the radar for the Pinkbike community, but the bikes are so beautiful and lightweight that they beg a mention here. XR frames use an asymmetric swingarm with a pivotless dropout arrangement that relies on an engineered amount of vertical flex to keep the seatstays tracking its rocker link-driven shock.

Lapierre 2014 XR 929 E I
  One of the most beautiful dual-suspension 29ers, Lapierre's XR 929 E:I is upgraded with a more aggressive component ensemble, showcased by one-by-eleven drivetrain for 2014. Lapierre photo


XR 929 models uses the e:i system, while the XR729 is equipped with a Fox Kashima Float CTD shock. We have ridden the XR 929 with the E:I system and can report that it handles like a good XC trailbike, and under power, it accelerates and climbs like a carbon racing hardtail. If you are XC curious and don't want to show up at the trailhead looking like you are riding for Team Big Brand, consider the Lapierre XR.


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147 Comments

  • + 27
 This Spicy Team is very very nice. Love the paint job.
Love mine (a 26" www.pinkbike.com/u/lew-xvtt/album/My-bike-Lapierre-Spicy-516 ) and glad that americans could now have one.
The details (thanks PB for the photos) looks very impressive and any part of the bike is a pleasure to look at.
A bit sad that 26" doesn't exist anymore...
  • + 33
 That's exactly the same as mine lol
www.pinkbike.com/photo/9545799
And yes, I'm getting sick of Manufacturers assuming everyone wants 29er or 650b, hint, we don't
  • + 8
 Hint: they don't care about few e-moles like us. They know that we know, they aren't stupid. When having a business, every order is a heart beat, you must keep it beating. You must have strategy to keep those orders coming. You must sell bikes. If you sell 20k bikes and all everyone does is being happy with what they bought, you are out of business. That's how the life goes. So would you sacrifice yourself if you were them? The way they survive and thrive (and eventualy grow even though it is unnecessary) is to produce new stuff and make you want it, with you stopping liking what you have as a necessary evil. Your bike is as good as those up there, guaranteed. Just keep it, and wait until 26" fashion starts all over again, which will happen for sure!

Off course if we all behaved rationally, the industry would shrink with all it's consequences, just what would happen tothe economy if people stopped taking loans for shitthey don't really need. It would collapse to a big point. And well, Im fine with that, that's what we deserve, that would be "the true world" but how many want that?
  • + 9
 Aren't people getting tired of complaining about the new bikes? Everyone I know whos ridden a 650b bike loves it. Its simply the way its going to be now.
  • + 12
 I've been on 4 650B bikes and I don't like them. So much for 'choice'. The market has not determined anything in this case; it's jammed down our throats by the marketing machine.

I don't give a shit if it's 1% faster. They don't feel as playful to me, and bike time = playtime.

I guess I'll be saving money. Thankfully the new carbon bikes seem to strong and should have a long lifespan, and there will always be someone with a carbon 26er that sat in the garage for 5 years and sold in near new condition.
  • + 5
 for a liottle guy like me, who prefers a more "chuckable" bike thats more in keeping wiht my height how does a 650b fit in, are they and do they physically feel alot bigger and bulkier.
im 42 now, my small BMX riding days are over, besides i like what MTB has to offer but the bikes are already at a size thats only just comfy for me - is this industry "small-ist" ????

seriously though, do 650b bikes feel big or is it all in the mind??
  • + 4
 When you get one, does it come with your choice of a rare french cheese?
  • + 3
 give it just a little time and the 650b kool-aid/junkies will be relapsing when yet another size overtakes or over-hyped. companies know how to herd cattle. nbd.
  • + 3
 I've met a few 650b riders that haven't noticed the difference between them and 26" wheels, so didn't bother change their bikes, so what is the point of this wheel size? Marketing and fooling people out of there money, that is all.
  • - 7
 Retarded french, why the put brake cable inside the frame? So I can bleed them, every time I have to take my brakes off the bike? Stupidity...Mondraker has same problems..
  • + 12
 Whining about 650B and 29ers is getting really annoying...
  • + 2
 @ailar:

go buy shimano then. ive bled my codes on my dj many many times, only to have it come out just a little better than it did before... cant wait to try shimano on my new bike. hell, ill probably repace the code on my dj with a shimano too.

internal cable routing is awesome.
  • + 2
 @ Kust
I can accept that there are other wheel sizes. What I don't want to accept is that the manufacturers are killing off a wheelsize before the market has even had a chance to respond. How many people have actually ridden a 650B? Do people even know what they prefer yet? I can promise you that there will be a lot of people who prefer to ride 26 inch bikes, just like some people prefer to ride 29ers and 650's. Killing them off seems to be the flavour of the month with Scott doing the same.

I will keep whining about the elimination of the 'choice' they claim to be providing us with by "adding" a wheelsize. It's not a choice if I don't get to make it, and it's not 'added' if they eliminate 26.
  • + 3
 Lilshredman-no cheese, just French whine about wheel sizes.
  • + 3
 There are a small group of people who prefer 26" bikes. Almost all of them happen to be on Pinkbike, and post over and over and over and over and over and over.... how its just marketing, being shoved down throats, can't feel a difference, is too heavy, are too sluggish, can't feel the difference, didn't like the 20 they tried so far, can't feel the difference, its just a money grab.... blah blah blah blah. Yawn Frown
  • + 4
 I think it depends on what type of riding your doing, and heck, all of the bikes we're whining about are alot nicer then mine
  • + 1
 Exacly what i'm thinking.
  • + 4
 "Last week in Chatel, France, Lapierre debuted its 2104 Zesty AM/trail and Spicy enduro bikes" it's 2104? how long have I been baked...
  • + 1
 Before the market has had a chance to respond? The market has responded, and it did it a long time ago. The main demographic here is not the one with the most spending power, let's just be honest. Those with the spending power influence the market, because they ARE the market.
  • + 2
 @kramster that's not at all what @kust means. He is saying that he is sick of anyone making negative comments regarding wheel size is getting annoying. I agree with him, and I'm not a total big-wheel convert; I love my 9er for trail shredding and my 26 for just screwing around having fun on a bike. While most bike companies are trying to really push the big-wheel market, you will notice that no one has stopped making 26, in fact, the majority of mountain bikes available for retail in 2013 are 26, and I believe it will stay that way (even though I love my 9er) because there are undeniable aspects of the 26" wheel that will keep them available. Yes, this article features two 29ers and two 650bs, yet there are ZERO 27.5 or 29 freeride, DH or DJ bikes being produced by any major manufacturers for retail sale. So just shut up and ride your bike, no one gives a shit what wheel size it is. Seriously, PinkBike comments on any new big-wheeled are starting to annoy the f*ck outta me.
  • + 4
 Kmart will still be selling 26inch bikes, next to the Pokemon cards behind the Icee machine
  • + 2
 To those who are sick of, annoyed by, or bored by negative comments related to wheel size... I'm terribly sorry, I didn't realize I should be here to provide you with opinions that reflect your own.

If you guys actually have tried them and prefer them, have at 'er; it's great you've found what you're looking for. I'm pretty sure I was clear about this, but I'll say it again; my negativity comes from the fact that some manufacturers are making decisions for us and the choices are beginning to decrease and not increase.

I find it laughable that you've got people on one hand saying "shut up and take it; it doesn't feel any different so you or unjustified in having an opinion about the loss of choice" and on the other hand "shut up and take it; it does feel different and it's better and you're opinion that it's only better in some ways and worse in others is just whining so you are unjustified in having an opinion about the loss of choice".

mfbeast, why are you so annoyed? Why don't you shut up and ride your bike instead of not shutting up and telling other's to shut up and ride their bike? You've totally missed the point of what I'm saying, whilst saying I've totally missed the point of what kust was saying. You say "no one has stopped making 26" except this article states "the French bike brand will no longer be making 26-inch wheel mountain bikes in its elite and enthusiast ranges". No need to be annoyed; you can state your views and I can state mine and we can all be happy.
  • + 1
 kramster I do see that your point is entirely legitimate, and my b for blatantly disregarding the brand featured in this very article in my comment. What I'm saying is not that anyone here is "wrong" or anyone is "right," what I'm saying is that the same discussion with almost the same exact comments has been going on for quite a while and it seems pointless to keep going in circles on something that is not going to change by way of what the bike companies see as angry internet users. I do believe that it would be smart of them to consider our opinion, but they don't, and no one is saying anything different.
  • + 1
 Because it's in our Nature to complain about things we don't like, and we don't like the soon to be extinction of 26" wheeled AM bikes at all, by the companies who shove things down the customers throat in the hope that their "all new spangly big wheeled wonder with extra OSMNE%F sus design and intelligent 640 frame details" or what have you will sell because most MTBers are gullible and will buy anything (some are, sadly)
  • + 3
 The common themes posted on pinkbike are:

1. I like what I already have, don't change anything.
2. Aluminum is good enough.
3.Carbon is too weak.
4.I hate anything that isn't 26" wheeled.
5.The new stuff is too expensive and I WON'T BUY IT!!!!

Now, think just a little bit. Are you the person the manufacturer is developing new bikes for? There are people who replace their bikes every 1-3 years, and who can afford current designs. Complaining you can't afford it, but "make it the way I want it" are mutually exclusive ideas. If you aren't looking for a $5000.00+ bike, then the companies are not developing to sell to you. You get the trickle down 3-4 years later. Aluminum 140-160mm bikes that could pedal were the "next best thing" in 2007-2009. (Banshee Rune, Titus El Guapo etc.) They were also 30+ pounds unless you got the highest end model. The current designs are lighter, stronger, and pedal better.
  • + 1
 I agree that there are some common themes and complaints in the comments. But this is only the 2nd time a company has eliminated a 26er in favour of a 650b in an entire category (at lease in PB articles that I've seen) which of course is going to raise some eyebrows and spur comments. Does this surprise (anger, disappoint, frustrate, annoy the f*ck out of) you?

Willie, it's wrong to assume that all people who comment here cannot afford high end bikes and don't replace them regularly. A quick look in a users album for example would prove you wrong. It's suddenly become quite fashionable to say internet comments are meaningless and unrepresentative of the user base, as though only people who don't buy new bikes, don't have money, don't know how to ride, don't have valid opinions etc, make comments. Does that include you and your comments too?
  • + 3
 The dealerships have leftover 26ers, 29ers sell well, and preorders on 650b are high- some manufacturers are reporting higher preorders of 650b models than 29ers. It would be silly for the manufacturers to continue producing models that don't sell well. The majority of people who can afford modern equipment are driving the market. If the manufacturers didn't follow the direction the customers spend money, they would go out of business. There are a number of mail order companies such as YT industries that will sell a well specced 26er for a good price, and the larger manufacturers won't be able to compete with this price point. If the 26ers were still outselling 29ers, then the manufacturers would continue producing them. It really is all about making money. Since the short travel market is almost completely 29er, and the mid travel market is being influenced by Enduro racing, (where 650b is showing a lot of promise over 26ers) it only makes sense that the manufacturers don't want to be left behind holding on to their old designs. Look at how little excitement Kona gets when they release ANOTHER aluminum 26er. People then complain about how dated and boring it is.

Also please read carefully. I do not believe, nor have I stated that ALL members here are the same. The boards do get clogged up with the comments listed above. They want the manufacturers to produce what they want, but say they won't buy new products because they are too expensive. Those are the users I refer to. I do quite regularly look at the profiles of people who make the childish comments. Most of them are under 25 year old males, with the odd person in their 30s. This group is really not the market for higher end products, excepting electronics, where this group will spend a fortune each month on phone plans, and gaming equipment/games. The people who spend the most are the people in their 40's and 50's who can afford the top end equipment they could not afford when they were under 25 themselves.
  • + 0
 I'm sorry, 650B is showing a lot of promise over 26? Did you miss the EWS overall results? As far as I know, we had 26 take 1st and 2nd in Mens Overall, and 29 take team overall - didn't see 650B up there (ok, Maes did well on 650B, but he would have beaten the other juniors on a tricycle). I'd argue the 650B didn't happen for EWS13... all the mega hyped 650Bs never showed any real consistent results, we never saw a Bronson, Stereo, Mojo HDR650 on the top step of the mens (did a 650B bike make it onto the top step of the mens or womens at all, the whole season?)
  • + 1
 dude, this thread has been over for half a year. why do you people always do this? there's a reason threads die out.. shit gets boring
  • + 1
 Way to grave dig
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 ferntreekid - not only that Bronson didn't perform too well. The best performer sponsored by Santa Cruz, Jamie Nicoll was on a Nomad... it's a shit talk but well 650B proponents are asking for results (written "scientific proofs") so here they come. The sales of larger wheels argument... well, it's time to kick it in the face shall we? I guess we can assume that most of buyers of 29ers even 2 years ago were people who were just trying them out, these weren't conscious decisions driven by some kind of scientific evidence. These were decisions driven by marketing (take note - I like 29ers!) and it is hard to tell how mnay of those people actually benefited. Anyways, there were many 29ers to buy before the histeria hit the bike world (giant spec, trek going for 29" wheels) so let's say that 30% of buyers made a relatively conscious decision based on their own experience, or actual experience of their friends. Now we have 650B bikes and sorry, those were nearly non-existent in MTB. That means that pretty much every single buyer, buys them "believing" marketing campaigns, that they will be great. No scientific evidence exists (and can exist) that those wheels are superior to 26", there are only assumptions of what a larger wheel can do, and only positive ones are published off course.

Having said that, I could not really give a less crap whether we will have 26" wheels in 2020 or not... I may roll on 27" wheels or 28.5" wheels if it be. Just stop those stupid arguments FOR some wheel size being superior
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 God damn! Nowadays electronics gets into bikes more and more :/ Can't wait to see "Check Engine" flashing on handlebars Smile
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 Ha mine would always be on
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 And what about the colours? I like the european motorsport inspiration on their new range: Porsche-Martini, West McLaren Mercedes, Ford-Gulf Air 3
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 They look sharp - those liveries never look old to me. Just classic
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 I'd rather say that Porsche Martini on La-Pierre is Martini Lancia Delta which had more success in WRC, probably the most iconic rally car ever. No better relation between World Enduro Series racing and WRC. That is awesome, I'm surprised they picked that up so fast Smile Just as Intense did with F1 paint jobs, though I will never get why they did not make Ferrari paintjob as s flagship one. Intense red? Hello?

Would be cool if Spicy came with green-red Lancia Stratos graphics.
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 As someone who grew up in western europe as a motorsport enthusiast in the 80s I can tell you one thing: the end of the Group B era was the end of rallys golden age. The Delta isn't as iconic as the Stratos so is the Martini for Alitalia.

I think you will agree if I say that the classic Rothmans or JPS colours should be used on one or two bikes Wink
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 mnemeheh... Group B were weirdos I think. Lancia Stratos would sound perfect for a limited edition bike then. Rothmans yes! ONe thing I noticed lately - 5 years back when Rennie was in Syndicae and the white-red-black hysteria exploded, don't you think it was F1 McLaren with Marlboro?

That's just my opinion Smile
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 No for Marlboro, in the 70s-80s their colours were used on so many cars or bikes, as a result I can't associate Marlboro to McLaren only.

By the way Group B were not weirdos, they were beasts! Hope we will see Lapierre honoring the memories of Audi Quattro and Peugeot 205 T16 next year. Intense got some BMX with a rossa corsa red, except the intense stickers with some marlboro red and they look mean (one is in my workshop so Big Grin ).
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 Intense with their original Intense Red should look best in Ferrari colours, I always associated their frames with Ferrari... and they made a bloody Jordan bike...
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 Ha, everything that used to attract me towards Lapierres has been abandoned. aka 26in wheels, a normal shock, good looks.. also i'm never sure about rotating the shock shaft 90 degrees after seeing some broken eyelets from Specialized owners.
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 the chainstays aren't that long on these bikes and the geo seems great,
i guess you could fit 26in wheels if it didn"t lower them to much. its something that i would consider.
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 U have no choice am and enduro bikes will all b 27.5 next year!
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 if everything is connected in a solid way, it shouldn't make a difference
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 e:i ...

now the only thing left is to pedal, singing this:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVYArjS-Ee0

:P Smile
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 Which Specialized bikes? The current ones with yokes don't attach to a normal shaft, they have a proprietary connection which didn't look as beefy as a normal eyelet.
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 which ones have a "proprietary" connection? the onces i've seen bolt into the yoke..
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 Two tone i'm guessing that comment refers to the demos that keep snaooing ccdb's
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 makripper, Yes the yoke bolts to the shock on Specialized, but take a look at the end of the shock shaft, it's not a stock eyelet like these and Salsa.

Here a picture of the Specialized connection: s696.photobucket.com/albums/vv324/rakuman/?action=view&current=stump2.jpg
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 I want these bikes less than bikes that cost several thousand pounds less.

I don't mean this to sound like every other comment ever made on pinkbike but...Give me 26" wheels, well designed geometry and shocks that don't need ridiculous electronic gizmos and functioning simple gears.

I wish Lappierre the best but I wouldn't buy any of these bikes even if I had a budget 100 times what I have.
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 Short chainstays, long TT, slack, low, steep seat tube: the future is here! Great graphics, decent form, really eye-pleasing at the first sight. If anyone cares: that bike looks best on the paper for me out of anything on the market. Absolutely fantastic! Should have bought this one...
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 Sarcasm is great!!! Wink
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 I know I fart lots of negative crap out, quite often in sarcastic way but that was not a sarcasm. Though I did thought of you Sir when I saw the geo and read that Richard liked that it is easy to pick the nose of the bike up and it jumps well Big Grin

I take it in a Zen way these days. 650b 29c, bikes bikes bikes, I like looking at them. Just bought a class 26er - couldn't bother less Wink
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 The geo on this one isn't too far out. It has longer chainstays than the demo LOL!!
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 Not if Demo was a 650b bike - AHaaaa! If that thing had 26" wheels, the CS would be 417.5 and that is almost 10mm longer than equivalent Enduro 26...

PS.Mohahahaha!

PS. Can't wait for Spesh to release new line of Enduro and Stumpy
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 Lol - so based on a marketing junket bike test, PB concludes that Nico is wrong and should be riding the 29er because it eclipses the 27.5 wheel Spicy, or did I miss something?!? I am quite sure when the top enduro riders start riding 29ers they will win enduro races. As it stands in the EWS, 26 and 27.5 doninate because thats what the top pro's are using. Its not about the bike or is it?
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 I read every review with this American advertising motto in mind: "Your mileage may vary."

I don't think the author is second-guessing Nico at all.
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 Ask Gwin if the bike has anything to do with it. Smile
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 Didn't Lopes race a 29er at the last Enduro?
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 @JerryHazard,
Yes Lopes raced te new Ripley 29er at the last Enduro. He got 9th.
But I don't really consider him a racer anymore.
He is now a partner in the Ibis company, so he is more promoting the product, than racing the product.

Still think he is a good guy and a great rider.
And Ibis has the right idea about 650B:
Design a bike that can do either 650B or 26".
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 It IS about the bike, or more about the right tool for the job (wheel size).

Still see Lopes as a top pro. The 29er clearly wasn't a holy grail or crazy advantage for him at the first leg of the EWS.

I did an enduro race last month (on my 29er, as an experiment), and while I'm nowhere near pro level, I can say that except for one stage, I'd have preferred my 26 inch to my 29er (or, maybe a longer travel 29er!). Of course, that's just me. The courses were much more DH orientated than XC...

I think the Pro winner (Ross Schnell?) was racing a 26" Trek. 650B might have been a good compromise, I don't know, haven't ridden one yet but there were quite a few at the race, maybe as many as there were 29ers.

@Saidrick: Lopes considers himself a racer, just not in 4x anymore - though I think his last win was the XC Eliminator deal last year - he's still a "top pro" (quote from headshot above). He's just in a place where he can pick and choose, something very few racers can do. I agree though about the Ibis bike!
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 Depends on size of obstacles. In my short experience, the larger the average obstacles on the course, the less advantage you get by going bigger with wheels, and more suspension comes into play (travel, quality) Thus 650b seems to be the best compromise. I am waiting for 32" road bikes...
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 And Willie - I gave our discussion on Demo a long thought, he said he rode larger bike for the first time in Val-Di-Sole. The interviews with Athertons from Dirt show clearly to me that this nonsense with pros riding stock bikes is soon over. Then I got a large frame myself... The bike must fit you and your needs in relation BB-grips, contact points of the bike and the rider. Whether it is a carbon demo on Fox or aluminium Glory on RS is irrelevant.
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 alotta wheelsizes and 26 aint one.. again....
do we still have a choice.. or are we guided by marketing,.. ?
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 electronics do not belong on my bike. system fails ride over Frown
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 thats definitely not the case with the shock. it defaults to open. and what difference is there between mechanical and electrical failure? it leads to the same disappointment
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 If the frame it's the same on both models, they are not two models, it's only one, with a few different components. So Pick a name Lapierre. IMHO the 29er should be called Zesty, and the 27er should be the Spider and Spider SL.
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 I agree, but no on Spider, Intense uses it for an XC bike.
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 im not entirely sold on electronic sus for mtb but hey im open to the idea and wouldn't mind to test that new spicy out Smile
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 As long as it can be programmed with the universal remote control then I'm in too.
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 Lapierre, please make a Spicy 327 for under $2800 USD without electronics but with a dropper post. Hell, throw in the electronics, but you've gotta make it cheap. Cheap, you understand me? rendre raisonnable!
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 I want to buy a Porsce 911 cabriolet. Please make it $9000.00, because I don't have enough money. ????????????????????????????????
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 I didn't say make it free, I said make it reasonable. Competitive with other bikes under $3,000 is reasonable.
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 $2800.00 is not reasonable from a manufacturer such as this. Frames typically sell for $2200-$2800. You want the build kit for less than most forks retail for. It just doesn't add up.
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 Oh so Norco, Rocky Mountain, Scott, and Santa Cruz are junk? They all produce a 27.5 150mm+ 31lbs full suspension bike for under $3,000. Even Lapierre's current 2013 Spicy 316 sells for £1,999.99 or $2978.31 US Dollar. So yes, it can be done, it just means offering a bike without all the techno-gadgetry and carbon fiber goodies.
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 Norco, RM, Scott all have economy of scale going for them . Domestic makers don't deal with import taxes either.
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 Look at that yoke on the shock, attaches to any regular shock just like the new Salsa's. Just goes to show Specialized could have done it that way, but likes its proprietary parts.
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 Are these pieces of Art free ?????????????????
All this information is fantastic but if they are going to be SC Bronson money I dont think they will sell aswell as the 2013,s have
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 I think the Lapierre OST/OST+ bikes are very good and getting better. That said I want to draw attention to a few fudges in this article. RC uses the term "reportedly" rather loosely, often just before sections in which he appears to make things up. In the section "OST Explained" RC offers readers fanciful accounts of pedaling neutrality and pedal feedback (as if Lapierre might have said such things). We are shown a virtual pivot at the intersection of a line drawn through the pivot centres of the upper swinglink and another line extending the chainline. It is not completely clear whether RC is claiming the shown virtual pivot is the actual instant centre of the bike or an ideal position for an IC. In either case he would be wrong (assuming pedaling neutrality is the objective). The IC (when the suspension is fully extended as in the image) would either have to be higher or further to the rear for pedaling neutrality i.e. for the bike to be bob free while pedaling. Thankfully, Lapierre doesn't follow RC's advice. Drawing lines through the pivot centres of both anchored links to their intersection point (the correct way of determining the IC) shows that the IC will indeed be higher than the one that RC has drawn. So, Lapierre, doesn't rely on RC's kinematic theories.

RC also seems to think that having the IC at the virtual pivot point that he draws (on the extended chainline) "helps to eliminate almost all pedal feedback". Even if the IC were there on the OST+ bikes, which it isn't, this would not eliminate pedal feedback. Pedal feedback closely mirrors chaingrowth. The OST+ bikes are designs with moderate chaingrowth (determined principally by the position of the main pivot) and have a moderate amount of pedal feedback. The alignment of the IC with the chainline has nothing to do with it.
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 Both Spicy's looks fantastic. Not sure how I feel about the E-Suspension, but I've never ridden it so I can't say, I'm just glad that companies like RS and X-Fusion are still making quality AM shocks and forks unlike Fox of late. Beautiful frames though aye. Love that they're coming to the US too!!!!

It's a simple little thing, but I REALLY like how they're going away from having he shock pivot on the DU-Bushing/shock mount. DU bushings SUCK and I'd rather replace a couple bearings after a couple years then the DU bushing every 6-months of hard riding. I also love that were seeing more Horst-Link suspensions coming into the US/N.America now that Spec. doesn't hold the stand-alone rights. In my 25+ years on a bike I've never found a better rear-suspension for my riding style.
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 I've looked at the position RC has shown the virtual pivot to be again and I now think he is more or less correct. That can only mean that Lapierre have given up pursuing that goal of pedaling neutrality by means of kinematic design. You now have to rely on the electronic shock to compensate for deficiencies in the design. I think I'll be getting a NORCO.
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 Antonio Osuna's technical analysis of the Lapierre Zesty TR 2014 29er rear suspension is now available at linkagedesign.blogspot.com.es/2013/07/lapierre-zesty-tr-2014.html. Well worth a close look. Its in Spanish but Antonio provides a translation function.
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 First I would like to say, the picture with the Virtual Pivot location is blantintly wrong. The lower line should be between the two lower pivots! Second, how does that not infringe on the Horst link patent (patent is in America, not international) from specialized in the North American market.
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 That patent has expired. Companies no longer need to worry about staying away from Horst Link bikes in NA, it is in fact mentioned in the article.
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 It would if the patent had not expired. But it did expire. Therefore the road is clear for all horst link bike manufacturers. I think the german Cube and Canyon also use them for instance. And some other smaller brands.
  • + 1
 The Patent expired over a month ago, and it only applied in the united states of America... not all of north America. It was never valid in Canada or Mexico or any other non-US possession/territory. As to the picture.... the lower red line is drawn to show where the chain path lines up with the VPP point, which is correctly drawn to at the intersection of the upper and lower link paths.
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 The explanation refers to the instant center lining up with the chain. I left out the third line that intersects with the Horst Link pivot and the swinagrm pivot - the one that would create the instant center, to keep it simple.
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 That was also the line that would allow the graphic to make sense...
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 Graphic made perfect sense to me.... I didn't need an extra line to be painted onto the image to see how the pivots lined up. I have a brain and can do pivot geometry lineups in my head without needing colours on pictures. Perhaps RC was simply expecting the rest of humanity to be capable of doing that also.... then again, this site isn't known for people who can grasp the obvious...
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 Actually the line to omit would be the chainline and the line(s) to leave in would be the ones that intersect the IC. And not measured static if you want to be exact.

But hey, that would be obvious to anyone who understands kinematics.
  • - 2
 Given that RC designed and HAND BUILT some of the first successful and actually enjoyable to ride full suspension mountain bikes as well as being a paid designer for several brands... I think he understands kinematics better than probably anyone here.
  • + 0
 Thanks for the history lesson. However, I'm 100% correct.

Have a nice day.
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 100% a few other things also...
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 What happens above 22 mph?

What happens if you miss the rock with the front wheel?

When you run out of battery on the way home are you forced to ride with the shocks set to downhill mode?
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 I wondered that too. Most likely the suspension would run wide open. At that speed, a pedaling platform isn't as important as stability and traction.
  • + 3
 The Spicy and Zesty ride and pedal very well with the system wide open. That is why e:i is an option. It's like traction control and anti-lock braking in a fast car. It's still a fast car with the electronics switched off, but you can relax and pin it with the controls switched on. E:i is quite good, I wouldn't discount it, especially for a race bike.
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 Yes, it does run wide open with dead battery, from what info I can find. I'm still curious what it does above 22, though. maybe it locks the brakes, in order to act like a governor on a car? Razz Maybe it flashes SLOW DOWN on the display? :p
  • + 1
 So at slow speeds it sounds like it works good and does make sense. But this bike seems to be designed to go downhill. I would have to remember to switch it to "open" as there is a section of roots I bump jump at about 24mph. I pull the front wheel up about 7 feet before it, meaning the shock would be locked out when the back wheel hit it. It seems like more money and extra weight for little gain. I mean, I currently flip levers, why spend more on a "lever"?
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 When stating a bike pedals "very well" a lot turns on subjective factors and gearing choice. It can be assumed RC is talking about the bike he has drawn the red lines on (with the XX1 chain ring) which shows a virtual pivot point which is supposed to be in a good position. It is clear that the virtual pivot in the shown location (aligned with the chainline and forward of the chainring) without additional assistance from the shock cannot result in pedaling neutrality even if the bike pedals well, wide open, according to RC's subjective standard. The method of calculating anti-squat - 100% equals pedaling neutrality - is well known and with a virtual pivot/IC in the shown location the bike will come up short on what is required to cancel out the bobbing effect during acceleration. OST+ bikes, in the past, have had an AS curve with an increasing level as the bike moves deeper into travel. The 2014 bikes are probably similar, but, early in travel at least, they require some assistance from the shock to achieve a bob-free ride (if we allow the shown virtual pivot location is very likely correct). There wouldn't be much use in the shock having a lockout if all squatting during surges of acceleration was being cancelled out by the suspension linkages.
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 so are these bikes so good they dont need a pedal platform, let alone an electronic one?
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 That is a very amusing way of putting it. Yep, the pedal platform has to come from somewhere. As there is not enough from the linkage geometry in this case the shock has to make up for the shortfall using its electronically controlled dynamic lockout. Without that this bike would undoubtedly bob. The earlier OST bikes (pre-OST+) which had their own compromises like all bikes still did have the advantage of plenty of anti-squat and didn't require the lockout crutch.
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 Sorry Lapierre, no 26" - no interest. Options are good for the consumer.
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 Thank god it doesn't have that stupid or doc sys crap .... Your onto a Winner lappierre
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 *stupid pendox crap
Stupid spell check
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 Pendbox is smooth as silk.
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 For as much as I like to make fun of the French, my plans for my next bike seem to be all french. would love a Spicy and Zesty 29 on BOS suspension and Mavic wheels
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 All I need to know about the french, I learned from Groundskeeper Willy. (it's a joke people.)
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 To bad when battery involved this early that it is placed outside the frame.
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 It's about the weight balance and the center of gravity, some very meticulous pro rider at the tour de france are going with the battery at the same spot on their frames. When you use the seatpost tube battery the bike might looks cleaner but the handling is not so good.

As a mechanic I like it better when it's easier to service, on customer's side it's better too if you don't have too pay any extra labour Smile
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 Hopefully Lapierre have improved there carbon.. A good friend of mine is on his 4th Spicy 916 through warranty jobs, keeps cracking! Carbon frame is so temperamental.
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 Want one of these chaps *realllll* bad! Hoping they do frame/matching finishing kit options for the top whack one as I have a whole bunch of decent kit already and don't really want the EI!
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 Haha they remind me of Master blaster from Mad Max
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 HAHA! That's why I put it in. I didn't think anyone would get it though.
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 gaaah! every day, a different company releases a new 650B or carbon 29er, its just annoying, lets see some new good o'l aluminum 26ers!
  • + 2
 You can find them in box stores, and in the classifieds. They are still out there, just not in the high end models.
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 looks like it is very close to a vpp suspension. Do the chain stays stretch at the beginning of compression?
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 Very nice. Hope they made a non-electro shock option.
  • + 1
 there is that option. On a cheaper version.
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 the first one,look like BMW M Power Smile
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 No cash for those beasts.. :\
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 It's not the bike that's fast, it's the mt.biker on the bike powering it that's fast!
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 Would love to have one of the killer 29ers as a ripping trail bike. All these bikes look great.
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 Looks like a yeti seven ...
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 Shit just got real.
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 bleeehhh...29...like a child of horse and dog.
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 Need one of those Zesty TR's
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 looks like lapierre and marin are using the same carbon partner... giant?
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 That 929...phwoooar...Schwing!...Wheeeeeeeeee...etc
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 No 26" wheels then we not interested.
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 I'll stick with my Froggy for now thanks.
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  • + 0
 That pic of the two guys really creeps me out..
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 Just two buddies enjoying their jobs and friendship IMO.
  • + 1
 well yeah, t does look like that - because that's whats happening but if you look it it for a long period of time, it looks really funny..
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 Steve Jones - pretty well known chap in the UK
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 Not insulting anyone I hope, Its just the way the two are positioned and photo is taken. Its a very funny shot. Maybe its just me and I have a warped mind but it is pretty funny if you look at it more. Smile
  • + 1
 @ RichardCunningham - Have them given an ETA for US distribution?
  • + 1
 Checked with Lapierre in the USA and they said late October is when we will see them for sale. Prices for USA are being hammered out and they will be published late July.
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 I'm waiting till the uci makes 27.5 its own class or bans it all together. Then we can get on with our mtb lives.
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 Sharp looking bike.
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 F*$k electronics on bikes!!!!!
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 Where's the pricing?
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 Scroll down.
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 some sick looking bikes
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 Does anybody else think they look just like Specialized Enduros?
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