Lindsey Voreis' AllRide Women's Clinic

 Yes she is! I want her to make my beginner woman awesome!!

 Just the fact that she is riding bike makes her awesome!

Ohhww god, might be the only thing I miss about my ex, hahaha.

 That.................... And the sex

 Yes She is Kurt... As I said in my comment below, I can't say enough good things about your lady and her teaching (not to mention her riding...). My wife is SO excited to take this clinic at some point and I'm super excited to see her want to take her riding to the next level. As someone who's helped create most of the northern Oregon tails (both as a rider/builder and a wild-land FF) we all know and love it really gives me an extra special sense of pride to come across a group of "new" (or still learning) riders like these ladies out there having this much fun in the woods and getting into the sport in such a great way. She's teaching these women to be EQUALS out on the trail and I think any woman who is wanting to take their riding to the next level should take this clinic from Linz. She's not only a sick rider, but she's a SMART gal who really thinks about what she teaches and makes better riders out of anyone who's willing to learn and listen.

 Right on. She's pretty stoked to help the ladies feel equally confident on bikes like most guys. Have your wife get in touch with her on facebook. She'll make it happen if she can. - kirt

 That she absolutely is! So glad to have such an amazing ambassador as part of the Sombrio crew this year.

 But then my male extremities will get lonely. . . My wife does woman only rides twice a month. Or she used to until she got injured in a sledding accident. I showed her this article in hopes of getting her stoked to ride again now that she is getting better.

 I think its great that women are getting into this sport but i know for a fact that if there was a mens riding clinic that some feminist would be very vocal about it.

 there are mens clinics everywhere, everyday, we just dont have to advertise them that way. guys dont feel threatened or intimidated by women riders, and neither do they get hit on and get stupid sexist, and often explicit, remarks aimed at them all the damn time. these girls havent set this up as a way of excluding you, theyre doing it to protect themselves. Its very telling that you see this as a challenge to yourself though. that says a lot about you as a person. what do you care if females have a day to themselves? how does it affect you? does it make you less of a rider? No, it doesnt. why is it that when you see females setting up ride days, you can only see it in terms of how it affects you?


every time a picture or a video on here gets described in terms of how 'hawt' the girls in at are, you just excluded and segregated that part of our community. same goes for in real life. Ive lost count of the amount of times I heard 'pretty good, for a chick', as though sex and the ability to ride a bike were mutually exclusive. Ive seen guys built like brick outhouses chase a slip of a girl down a trail and overtake her, often very aggressively, because he's 'not gonna let some chick beat me'. its no wonder they want to get away from dicks like that.

look at half the red bull vids on here. theyve got bikini clad models, draping or drooling over a bike or a rider. what the hell does that have to do with anything? the amount of covert sexism in this sport is shocking, but nothing like as bad as the sexism and machismo thats on display 99% of the time. we all need to be a little more progressive, and it starts here. if the girls want to practice away from the one upmanship that inevitably follows when a bunch of guys get together then it says a lot more about our attitude than it does theirs.

 totally meant +1 you. sorry. clumsy thumb.

 @querhoch Honest question: is it really as bad as you make it to be for the average woman? I've rode with quite a few girls through the years and I've never really heard such complaints from women and when I did it was about dudes who were dicks with pretty much everybody already, regardless of the gender. The main complaint I hear is that some dudes don't want to ride with most chicks because they're slowing them down (and those dudes don't ride with dudes that slow them down either). My experience seems to differ from yours.

Also, medias and the internet crowd do not depict an accurate representation of reality.

As far as I'm concerned, if women only clinics can get more women into riding (or boost the retention rate) then I'm all for it. Hell, I'm actually a little jealous, I wish we had clinics around here.

 Thing is, a lot of women won't speak up for fear of being laughed at or ignored.say youre the only girl in a group of 10 or so riders. a couple of the guys are macho dickheads and are making you uncomfortable with thier behaviour, and youve had enough of them making comments about your ass or boobs. you tell them that its making you unhappy and I can pretty much guarantee that you'll either get called uptight, a lesbian or told that its just a bit of fun and you need to grow a pair, because thats how it is, like it or leave.

what do you do in that situation? a good friend of mine used to ride BMX and she was bloody good, but in the end the constant barrage of sexist and sexual comments got too much and one day she just didnt show up. riding is a male dominated sport, and if we want women to get involved then we have to be aware of our priveleged position. you started out by negating my own experience and that of women by saying that as its not your experience, then it cant have happened that way. it might not seem important to you, but you have just fallen into the trap of implying that its either being made up or exaggerated. typical bloody women, eh?


oh, and media platforms such as magazines and the internet do acurately represent the riding community. pretty much everybody has access to the internet now. I accept that a large majority wont actually say 'nice tits' to a female rider just because they typed it under a pic on here, but that attitude is prevelant in far too many guys Ive met. female riders are seen as a novelty and arent taken seriously by white middle class males, who make up 99% of DH and Freeriders, and are seen as fair game for hitting on or making fun of, because when youre in a group made up almost entirely of your peers, who is going to challenge you?

 "You started out by negating my own experience and that of women by saying that as its not your experience, then it cant have happened that way."

I haven't said your experience is invalid, I said mine was different. I understand that I'm a guy so no matter how much I try to put myself in their shoes it's never going to be the same... but the women I've been riding with sang a different tune than yours. Last year I my XC crew was 5 females, not much peer pressure for not calling out disrespectful behavior there. We talked about this topic a bunch of times and they hardly had anything to complain about on that front. In our FR dh crew, it's like 35% women and they don't seem to have to deal with the hassle you describe either.

There are a*sholes everywhere so I'm not claiming it never happens, I guess they're just more concentrated in other areas. It would seem that my riding community is different than the one portrayed in the medias and on the internet. As far as I'm concerned, the medias only have the power you give them anyway.

 www.pinkbike.com/news/Avid-Chasing-Trail-Kelli-Emmett-video-2013.html

go here and you'll see what Im talking about.

Im a guy btw.

 Pretty sure mods plowed through that post because right now aside the lycra comment, there's nothing remotely scandalizing going on in there.

But I understand what you're talking about, I've seen it elsewhere before on many occasions. It's extremely sad that people act that way on the internet (or anywhere else) but thankfully, to my experience, those keyboards warriors can't even muster up the "courage" to say anything in real life most of the time.

 trophy01 (13 hours ago)
I'd hit it

twozerosix (8 hours ago)
Anyone else think helmets look bad on most women? XC type, not full face. Its like they are too aggro or techy looking, makes too big a statement on top of their heads.

scblurnz (1 hours ago)
Finally someone who proves it is still possible to shred without a dropper post. AND shes a chick. Double props.

driftmonster (17 hours ago)
id like to chase her trail (this one has 13 + props)


thats just one video with very few comments, but its pretty indicative of the behaviour Ive seen over the years. everything from neandethal idiocy to commenting solely on the riders gender and appearance (and most other female riders too). if you dont see anything wrong in these comments then you might need to look at them in a different light and from a different perspective.

 Not to mention the pro photos with girl posing to look hot in a pond or whatever. Also, if my wife wins a podium is some chip n dales dancer going to hang her the trophy? How long before booths at interbike have man candy for the ladies?
It is a 1950's era world on the mtb scene. It is changing, but it will never be a 50/50 mix probably any more than skate boarding is. My hope is my daughters don't have to think about it.

 Oh you're right, it's just that when I opened the link I was expecting you picked an article where the comment section was a massive shitstorm instead of one having just the usual stray retards.

 and again you try to dismiss the evidence by claiming theyre just 'stray retards' as though it wasnt really important or indicative of the wider issue. they are not just a couple of idiots who talk shit all day, theyre much representative of the pravailing attitude towards women in the sport.

 Linz wants you to know she read this and appreciates it. She also says again, to have your wife get in touch. She even gives advice over email.

 I just want a girl

 Go get a fake wedding ring and tell women you;re married to a super model... you'll be fighting them off with a stick all day long

 Getting girls.....not hard....girls you are actually compatible with...much much harder

 Probably all sexist jokes.

 It's disappointing to see rude comments on these clinics to ride women ! just my 2 cents......