Mont Saint Anne Results DHI Men - UCI World Cup 2012

Jun 24, 2012 at 13:21
Jun 24, 2012
by Tyler Maine  
 
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186 Comments

  • + 119
 I'm starting to believe that Gwin is the best rider ever. Great broadcast, RedBull.
  • + 72
 Yeah I got a feeling he is gonna be the man to beat for the next few years. Such a good attitude too , humble and positive.
  • + 29
 I love watching my German and Brit friends start crying about how boring it is once Gwin comes across the line. I think its twice the excitement watching someone eat a full breakfast, read the morning paper, take out the trash and still have enough time to make first place
  • + 55
 Best rider ever?

Remember a guy named Nicolas Vouilloz?
  • - 31
 "I'm starting to believe that Gwin is the best rider ever."


You're just now realizing this!!! Where you been brew?
  • + 53
 Its a little early for that. Sam Hill was unstoppable for a period of time just as long as Gwin has been, and now that seems like it was just a short time. Just saying... need a couple more years of this... I root for Gwin to beat him every week, but I would say Minaar has a far far more impressive career. Peat too.
  • + 15
 At 24 years old he's going to be relevant for a long time...look at Minaar, he is 30
  • - 42
 if gwin was a banana, he would be a bloody tasty one!!
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 Gwin is programmable human machine made only for winning
  • + 5
 Just wish he had won race 1 and was trying for a perfect season... that would be intense to watch
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 He's so hard he drinks a pint of concrete for breakfast!
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 USA! USA! USA!
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 Yes, it's early to say that, and for these motive I said I'm "starting to believe". Time will put all of this into perspective. For the moment, yeah, Minnaar and Peat are over him.

Anyway, I can't understand how anyone can say that this is becoming boring...
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 America fuck yeah!
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 Gwin is something else at the moment. Towards the bottom of the track Sam showed what he is capable of, I think the Carbon Demo he is on seems to be making a difference. Shame Troy got so badly injured, he could have threatened Gwin soon.
  • + 9
 Seems like they are getting closer to Gwin every week. Not a lot, but some.
  • + 5
 ^either that or he knows he don't have to go crazy to win , smashing them by huge margins is cool but unnecessary.
  • + 17
 Yeah, Gwin is very good rider but Smith is my favorite rider Smile
  • + 5
 Danny harts doing great this season to, hasnt it been gwin minnar and hart on the podium a few times? I love how much the competition improves every season, its getting insane! does this mean gwins got the season win now or does greg still have a chance?
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 @danny-oil: Hart is rockin'! He's the most charged rider on the mountain every event. I know he's going to get even faster and do even better.

Every time I watch him race I'm totally filled with tension. I'm always expecting some epic mad 5h1t!
  • - 12
 Gwin wins again? No shit... No surprise again
  • - 9
 why do merica comment not get postive props?
  • - 23
 first you could start by spelling the name of the country YOU ARE FROM CORRECTLY!!!!! Its because they are jealous
  • + 40
 Merica, fuck yeahhhh!
  • + 25
 People don't like us Mericans... Frown
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 Or because it makes us all look like arrogant dicks.
  • + 5
 lol at gwin haters he's the man! and danny hart so pinned
  • - 8
 Is Gwin and Benny Philips brothers? Like really, how can you have such bad style?
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 ANOTHER WIN FOR AMERICA!
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 I bet it's all the brits hitting the negatives. Mad cuz Smith didn't even podium and Hatting on Gwinny
  • + 5
 merica isn't arrogant we just do sweet things
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 Look at it this way, it gives me more time to get other stuff done now I know whose honna win I don't have to watch the live show. Haha
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 You get my neg props because gwins win has NOTHING to do with the country itself! The average Joe next door is still the average Joe and will remain the same average Joe until HE wins a World Cup (achieves his goals). An idiot is still an idiot, doesn´t matter that someone else wins a World Cup (as if it is the only concern the USA should have anyway...there are a lot more and bigger problems than a f*cking DH race).

I´ve never posted something on Pinkbike yet, but that had to be said from my site - jealousy, what a weak argumentation is that?!
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 We Americans just do this to feel a sense of community. I can attest to this because I've been living in Germany for nearly three consecutive years now and whenever I come across some fellow Americans thats all we'll be shouting, 'Amricanf*ckYeah!'. Partly because stereotyping is funny and partly because we long for some appreciation again, even if its just from ourselves. Here in Europe people are very negative towards Americans or maybe I should say the idea of Americans. It seems to have become popular to hate on anything the US does or anything its people say. Granted I haven't been much proud of the some of the actions of my country lately. But why don't we all hate on Germans because of WWII? I don't. It's just been eating away at me how much shit I get for being or saying I am American.Of course when I mention its California I hail from people change topics and begin singing some Cali themed song or ask if I know tupac. Its really a two sided hypocritical coin. The same kids who will whine about how terrible America and Americans are, about how many terrible things the us has (supposedly) done and how fat its people are will go stand in line for a big tasty bacon at McDonalds, complain about how hard it is for them to get into a US school and brag about when/if they get the chance to go for a vacation in the US. I could go on writing an essay about this, but if you've stuck with me this far without blindly negative propping me for my two cents than I thank you. People say we are narrow minded, but honestly, everyone is in some way, its in our nature. If loving my country, maybe not for its politics makes me an 'Arrogant prick' then fine, call me what you will. Just know that I'm more than that...as a human and a fellow rider.
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 P.s. Lots of Americans are retards too, the world has many of them so my explanation won't fit to all of the nation. Just try to distinguish between the kid trying to have some fun and the in bred hick who's never been outside of his own county. Don't take the jealousy argument as real, its a joke. I've found my humor I used back home does not transfer well, especially to Germany. We just all have to learn to understand and hold back the humor that might be misconstrued as something els. Okay I'm really done now
Salute
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 I wouldn't worry about it, Germany is officially the worlds least funny country according to an international poll last year.
www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/8560815/Germany-officially-the-worlds-least-funny-country.html
Smile

PS. a deserved win by Gwin, even if it is destroying my Dirt Fantasy League
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 I think the last words are adressed to me, so just to make sure everybody gets my point right. It´s all about national pride in general, not a specific nationality - America was just the example fitting into this conversation. The border between national pride and fanatism is a blurry line which has fatal influences on nearly anything I can imagine. Superb examples are social relationships between different peoples and within a given society both on a national level or in smaller units and even in far more popular sports than downhill racing, such as football/soccer. I´ve nothing against "feeling connected in a spiritual way" but screaming "U-S-A" (or " Ger-ma-ny") and feeling proud to do so ("yes, we beat them, we´re best!") because someone won a race goes to far.
And that goes for every country or region on this planet, it has nothing to with anything like sympathy, even less when talking about some abstract form like countries. How can you hate countries? I´ve never met one in person...

Long story short, I "neg-proped" an attitude and not the USA.
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 MERICA BITCHES
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 these 2 boys know whats up/\/\
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 I understand that the common feeling for many other people may be inclined to neg prop any patriotism. I can see where the feelings have been derived from as well. Times with hitler have made people weary of the connotations patriotism have and the way that patriotism could be used against another nationality, race creed, what have you. I just wanna remind you that this awareness is not instilled in everyone so strongly, least of all us Mericans. At least thats what I've observed.

Come to think of it, with your mentioning of the lines being blurry between national pride and fanaticism, I believe that one shouldn't be so worried about this so much as to apply it to some kids on the internet being proud to be where they're from because finally someone of their nationality is Gwinning. As for me and my compatriots up there, we've been raised in an environment where loving our country is damn straight respectable. Fanaticism is certainly not a problem and hasn't been in the past (Don't hold me to this I'm only 18 ). But as for you Germany, you've had some damn harsh instances of a national pride being taken advantage of.

Long story short, due to our wildly different backgrounds one could never hope to fully understand both sides of the story. Although it can't hurt to try.

This is a fun conversation tup
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 I agree, it´s an interesting topic to talk about.

I also agree in your point of different social backgrounds causing different interpretations, but i disagree in hitler being responsible for my point of view. I feel no responsibility for anything that happened before my date of birth (29 years ago) anyway. I understand your point but my argumentation is based on logic/rationalism, maybe philosophy, and not knowledge and experience (which includes certain social aspects you mentioned).

Anyway, to not abuse the comment function of this page, I´m pretty sure we can continue this discussion on another field in the future...maybe when you hook up again with Marco and some guys of the Cycle Culture Crew (Kai, Holger, remember Dirtmasters?). Ask Marco if he knows a "Billi" and he will tell you who I am...rarely make it to ride with him (Marco) though.

Cheers :thumbsup:
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 Damn, its one small world, I mean internet...That just scared the crap out of me Eek

But wouldn't you agree 'we' rationalize our logic through the knowledge defined by our experiences weather they be first hand or by other means? Furthermore, with philosophy being the study of knowledge, this leads me to believe that we're actually on the same page.

Rolleyes
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 Hell yeah, world´s a small village.

I think of it as logic being something else than knowledge. Logic stands above the process of gaining experience or knowledge (there´s a big difference between those two), it questiones someones experiences and knowledge more than ever knowledge gained second hand. But I have to admit that it often happens in the reverse direction, " 'we' rationalize our logic through experience" due to a lack of being able to diversify. That´s human, I know, and human behaviour is comprehensible, too, but that is nothing to just accept. It remains irrational to hate countries, to feel connected to "a bunch of people" without knowing them, to feel responsible for Hitler´s deeds, being a better person by the reason of wealth or appearance...you name it.

Philosophy is not exactly the study of knowledge but the love of wisdom. Its goal is to find answers concerning the existence, the mind, reality, definition, effect and meaning of knowledge, cognition, etc. by rational analysis and argumentation, or else, through what we call logic. Many social aspects have been "outsourced" (;-)) to psychology.

So, we´re not exactly on the same page but definitly reading the same book (without any judgement of who read more).
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 I haven't even opened the book yet. It appears that someone has been Neg propping our scholarly conversation, come good sir, let us move this wealth of knowledge somewhere where we might enjoy it in peace! Onwards, to the PB note boards!
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 Infact...i think his mechanic emptys the juice from his brakes before each race run....when you see him at the bottom shaking his heads its because he is disappointed by the fact that his mechanic has had him again
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 Commentator "gwins a perfectionist, he just wants to pull everyones pants down every week"

I think he is a humble winner! Hes unbelievably fast!!
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 Hell yes, damn he rides soooooo sick!
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 Fair play to Gee! 4th after that huge crash the other day! my hat goes off to him! Smile he deserves a win soon!
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 here's to hoping Neko is OK! that crash was gnarly!!
  • + 4
 boom! dirty great headbutt ay! looked nasty!
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 Totally, it's always scary when the cameras immediately cut off from the crash and it was pretty terrifying watching his limp body tumble.. I hope he's alright.
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 I wish the best to Neko and Matti. Hopefully we'll get updates soon.
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 matti crashed again?!?!
  • + 1
 Ya right in the tail end of the rocks on the 4x track. He wasn't knocked out but it was obvious something was not right.
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 Best moment for me was when we heard the comment that...
"Gee is so hard he must wake up and drink a pint of concrete for breakfast every morning!"
Made me LMFAO!
Well done Gwin! Wink
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  • + 21
 Lopes is great on a bike but sucks in teh commentary box. Here is an idea to freshen things up. Lets get Cedric online from his sick bed in Andorra next round. CG and Warner are a rare treat to listen too. Sorry Lopes but your a wee bit boring pal.
  • + 6
 Lopes would not shut up about pedals, he'd fit right in on the pinkbike forum! So boring.
  • + 8
 That would be cool if we could hear form CG and Troy Brosnan in the booth while they are out.
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 true: listen 40 mins in. Barel is also not a bad commentator: extreme.com/mountainbike/1008039/nissan-uci-mtb-world-cup-dh-andorra
  • + 8
 Lopes had some good comments on lines and such. If this is his first time commentating, I think he did a good job.
  • + 6
 He knows bikes and his comments where very constructive. I enjoyed it.
  • + 1
 But he had a bad timing, always talked about some tech stuff while split times. You could nearly see Warner holding and not interrupting him with his (legendary and, on RedbullTV, rare) shoutouts - what a patient man he is ;-)
  • + 0
 Warner and Pagey are good together too.
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  • + 19
 Awesome race. Pretty amazing that Fairclough and Mick Hannah still managed to get 15th and 16th, both without chains!
  • + 1
 I was at a final descent in angel fire a few years ago (when it was still a two run DH race) and the conditions were so awful that the pros all agreed to say "f*ck it" and all went down chainless.
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  • + 18
 Sam Hill in top 5 fastest. Yeah!! Big Grin
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 Good job kiwi boys, 4 in the top 11!
  • + 2
 So much this! I thought Brooke would get a bit higher though, still a nice run from them all
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 Quarter of the top 20 kiwis!!
  • + 0
 If Brook was riding clips he would of pulled off a faster time i would say
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 Hat's off to Gwin but Sam's creepin' back up the rankings Wink Do I suspect a comeback? Great to see Danny up on the podium aswell!
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 That crash of Neko was realy nasty,he is so lucky he got a away with out being injured bad.
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  • + 5
 they make Gwin go down with a parachute on his back to make it more even...i think he is a time lord or something....he doesnt seem to be as unstoppable as he was last year though...amazing race
  • - 1
 Say what? He has all first place finishes, except for that 2nd in S Africa, on Minaars home course!
  • + 1
 oh...he is more consistant...but he doesnt seem to be 6 seconds ahead each time he wins
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  • + 8
 any word on Mulally? That crash was horrible.
  • + 4
 he just had a facebook status saying that he is fine! his head just got a little shaken up but not injured at all.
  • + 2
 wow, that's great to hear... looked horrific on video. Hope he has better luck at Windham!!
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 Epic! Gwin kicks @$$! Minaar doesn't even look like he's trying. Hart looks like he's about to explode at any minute and kill millions.

Hats off to Gee for going that fast after hitting so hard the other day. Mad respect!
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  • + 7
 gwin! keepin america in the top 20! Though i really really wanted hill to take this one
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 The World Cup is not getting tedious at all. Look how close the times are on a course that is over 4 minutes long. Gwin just happens to be the top guy right now. Look at any sport and sooner or later there is one athlete who just a bit better than the next guy or girl.
  • + 1
 I'm sure that more then a few of these guys are looking at footage of his riding and trying to figure out what he's doing.
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 AARON GWIN IS AN ANIMAL
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 i think that gwin is rinning his front suspension a bit stiffer than the other top riders, if you check out the slow mo off the ski jump carefully gwins front forks (regardless of brand) dive a noticable amount less than the other top riders... i guess it could just be a smother line, but this has been consistent with the slow mo footie i have watched this year. maybe freakishly stiff suspension is just a bit faster, as a major bottom out will really slow ya down? not the suspension set up for the common man - dont know how he hangs on!
  • + 1
 I've always said stiff was the way to go for speed. as for hanging on, the stiffer you go, the more perfect your rebound has to be.
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  • + 2
 Gwin is what the sport needed to continue evolving, he's the man to beat, and with his attitude and training, he will be the man to beat for a long time, longer than Hill, longer than Vouilloz, longer than Peaty.. He never gets injured, barely crashes, that will keep him in the top for a long time.. Hill will come back, just give him some time!!!
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 Seriously aaron where in the hell did you find 3 seconds on the first split.... I mean..... where>> he is a magician... Greg also showing what he can do.... great race!!!
  • + 0
 It is insane, Trek really has to be doing something right (team support ) besides he is freakin alien
  • + 9
 2 words. To-Mac
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 Gwin is incredibly fast, but he only won by 1 and a bit seconds this time? Rob Warner said at the end 'THAT IS UNBELIEVABLE'... but it's not really, considering he's won the others by like 8+. Hats off to the lad for being such a dominating rider, but the others do seem to be catching up. It's only a matter of time until Sam is back up in top spot again!! I can't wait
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  • + 4
 I think Gwin drinks at least 10 liters of concrete daily! Dude is amazing.
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 Yaaa usa gwin etc we win yeaaaa!!!! The top 5 all good runs, and Gee bouncing back from huge crash. I think he just exposed a problem with the gt suspension design. If you dont get that linkage perfect those single pivots can buck you in a heartbeat. Welcome to brake jacking on the east coast my friend. Hopefully gee gets that sorted with gt by windham race. Def dont want any jack ups there.
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  • + 3
 Aaron Gwin, when are you going to run out of fuel? You seems to accelerating faster and faster, stronger and stronger, give yourself a pat on the back mate!
  • + 1
 He ran out of fuel in South Africa
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 Redbull is winning in the fantasy league for sure.... 4 riders on the podium
  • + 1
 nope, only 2
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  • + 2
 I was looking forward to seeing Jared Graves race, though as his luck has it, he did not qualify because of a flat tire up top. Best of luck in the next race Jared!
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  • + 2
 Awesome webcast!

Good to see Sam Hill getting back on track too! Does anyone have an update on Neko Mulally? That's not how I like to see dirt being roosted!
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  • + 3
 Great race!! hats off to Danny Hart super style, epic run, he's due his first World Cup win soon.
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  • + 1
 Gwin is not only fast but a tactician. Only going as fast as he needs to go. He kinda shut it down halfway through the race. Fans are delusional if they think gwin is pinned. The other guys are pinned.
  • + 1
 Yup, unfortunately we didn't get video of him fully pinned on the top. He looked pretty chill on the bottom section ( after the near crash ) and barely lost any time.
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 Danny Hart... What a rider, I mean look at those two berms he completely missed, just managed to make it stick!
  • + 1
 Danny Hart's run was amazing! He doesn't give up, and it's very well. Hart is going to be on the 1st place next time!)
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 I've never seen so many bikes failing in the middle of the race, and so many racers crashing. Mont Saint Anne, hard as fuck
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  • + 2
 That Gwin is so.... EPIC! I though Minaar was gonna be 1st. but NO! INSANE GWIN TAKES THE PRIZE!
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  • + 2
 Fuck, good to see the other guys closing on Gwin. Bit more exciting when he isn't winning by 8 seconds, awesome race.
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 Cant wait to see it live next weekend in NY!!!
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  • + 3
 Great results for Sam and Stevie. Gwin is a monster!
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  • + 1
 Mt. St. Anne stepped it up this year, I think the new standard for world cup dh. The only track I've seen Gwin lose time in the last two splits.
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  • + 2
 anybody knows how Matti lehikonen is doing? Again he had a pretty serious crash the pour guy
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 come on somebody needs to beat this guy just to make it more intresting :/
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 Lets all give it up for Lopes and his great commentating.
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  • + 1
 After the performance that Gwin did today...You can't hate the guy no more. Mad respect to him!
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  • + 1
 WTF..Gwin makes at least 2 mistakes on his run and still wins by over a second.. He just might be a robot in disguise.
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 Gwinning!!!
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 I dont get hows he's so fast!?!!
  • + 1
 Yeah, where does he find the time? It's crazy.
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 blah blah gwin blah winning blah fast blah BLAH gwin BLAH
  • + 12
 He's the pinnacle of downhiller evolution. I say let's clone him.
  • + 17
 Americans have gwin, UK has peat, brendan, hart, josh etc, and Canada, well, you have Beiber!!
  • + 45
 I speak for all of Canada when i say we are ashamed that he is Canadian! But it balances out because we have Smith, Whistler, Semenuk, and maple syrup.
  • + 8
 Plumstick - I take Bieber over Jersey Shore anytime Big Grin
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 Smith, Whistler, Semenuk, and maple syrup... I almost just wanted to move to Canada... Almost
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 WHAT? are you out of your god damn MIND?
  • + 1
 Smith, Whistler, Semenuk, maple syrup, and Brett Tippie! Not bad.
  • + 2
 Can't forget Drew Bezanson, Matt MacDuff, etc...
  • + 2
 Don't forget the Timbits!
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 i meant - are you out of your god damn mind- to waki designs who said he would take beiber over jersey shore. i guess the canadians thought i was dissing them.
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 Angryham: Bieber is just one kid that wets a part of teenage girl population and pisses off every single male without sexual deviation towards young boys (to whom he must be a nr1 hero of memo-wanks). However he carries no threat to the mental state of our societies.

Jersey Shore on the other hand is a brain tissue softener and dissolvant, that highers people's tolerance towards pure stupidity. It creates unwanted, devastating thoughts like: "there are more people as cool as me", or "I feel so much better about myself for not being that fkn stupid". I prefer my daughter getting wet watching Bieber (ok she still has 12 years or so) than watching one episode of Jersey Shore!
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 Balls of steel? The guy is just the next step in the evolution of DH!!! Well done Gwin!!
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 Balls of steel? Titanium please
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 top 10 is pretty much full of all my favourite riders!
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 dam i was sure the brits had this
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 www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV0hYm_fW7Q

SUMS UP HOW I FEEL ABOUT GWIN!!!!! (caps was necessary)
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 the question is: Who can STOP gwin???
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 Why didn't Loic Bruni race this round?
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 That's also something I wonder... if anyone knows, I'm very curious to know
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 Dam!!! every comment saying something about America is neg propped. Come on guys be nice to us.
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  • + 0
 Gwin! AKA " The Beast" !!!
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 Shitttt Gwin is FAST!
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 Tweaking!!! Lol
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  • + 0
 Gwin! Where is he hiding the motor?
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 DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN!
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  • + 0
 Gwin looks a bit like a Avatar. Thats why he is so fast Smile
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 1st, 2nd, 3rd... were definitely not unexpected...
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 UN-FUCKING-STOPABLE
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 Those GWIPS are insane!
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 I think he won the race due to the crazy amount of peddling he did!!! The guy is fast but he gave everything compare to other riders. Good on Gwin.
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 Yeeeaaahhhh GWIN!
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 Gwin Gwin Gwin Gwin Gwin
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 Gwin is a machine. Lots of really good runs from the top boys though. Anyone got a link for gee's crash ?
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 Good job everyone! You can tell I was the one guzzling hard cider during the race. LULZ
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 It's not the first time for Gee to go through the front door this year. Has Fox always kickin, ever fkn marketing machine got some issues on his shock rebound?
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 Gwin is fast very fast I think he is like the new Sam Hill
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