Mont Saint Anne Results DHI Men - UCI World Cup 2012

 Yeah I got a feeling he is gonna be the man to beat for the next few years. Such a good attitude too , humble and positive.

 I love watching my German and Brit friends start crying about how boring it is once Gwin comes across the line. I think its twice the excitement watching someone eat a full breakfast, read the morning paper, take out the trash and still have enough time to make first place

 Best rider ever?

Remember a guy named Nicolas Vouilloz?

 Its a little early for that. Sam Hill was unstoppable for a period of time just as long as Gwin has been, and now that seems like it was just a short time. Just saying... need a couple more years of this... I root for Gwin to beat him every week, but I would say Minaar has a far far more impressive career. Peat too.

 At 24 years old he's going to be relevant for a long time...look at Minaar, he is 30

 Just wish he had won race 1 and was trying for a perfect season... that would be intense to watch

 He's so hard he drinks a pint of concrete for breakfast!

 Yes, it's early to say that, and for these motive I said I'm "starting to believe". Time will put all of this into perspective. For the moment, yeah, Minnaar and Peat are over him.

Anyway, I can't understand how anyone can say that this is becoming boring...

 Gwin is something else at the moment. Towards the bottom of the track Sam showed what he is capable of, I think the Carbon Demo he is on seems to be making a difference. Shame Troy got so badly injured, he could have threatened Gwin soon.

 Seems like they are getting closer to Gwin every week. Not a lot, but some.

 ^either that or he knows he don't have to go crazy to win , smashing them by huge margins is cool but unnecessary.

 Yeah, Gwin is very good rider but Smith is my favorite rider

 Danny harts doing great this season to, hasnt it been gwin minnar and hart on the podium a few times? I love how much the competition improves every season, its getting insane! does this mean gwins got the season win now or does greg still have a chance?

 @danny-oil: Hart is rockin'! He's the most charged rider on the mountain every event. I know he's going to get even faster and do even better.

Every time I watch him race I'm totally filled with tension. I'm always expecting some epic mad 5h1t!

 Merica, fuck yeahhhh!

 People don't like us Mericans...

 Or because it makes us all look like arrogant dicks.

 lol at gwin haters he's the man! and danny hart so pinned

 Was the best

 I bet it's all the brits hitting the negatives. Mad cuz Smith didn't even podium and Hatting on Gwinny

 merica isn't arrogant we just do sweet things

 Look at it this way, it gives me more time to get other stuff done now I know whose honna win I don't have to watch the live show. Haha

 You get my neg props because gwins win has NOTHING to do with the country itself! The average Joe next door is still the average Joe and will remain the same average Joe until HE wins a World Cup (achieves his goals). An idiot is still an idiot, doesn´t matter that someone else wins a World Cup (as if it is the only concern the USA should have anyway...there are a lot more and bigger problems than a f*cking DH race).

I´ve never posted something on Pinkbike yet, but that had to be said from my site - jealousy, what a weak argumentation is that?!

 We Americans just do this to feel a sense of community. I can attest to this because I've been living in Germany for nearly three consecutive years now and whenever I come across some fellow Americans thats all we'll be shouting, 'Amricanf*ckYeah!'. Partly because stereotyping is funny and partly because we long for some appreciation again, even if its just from ourselves. Here in Europe people are very negative towards Americans or maybe I should say the idea of Americans. It seems to have become popular to hate on anything the US does or anything its people say. Granted I haven't been much proud of the some of the actions of my country lately. But why don't we all hate on Germans because of WWII? I don't. It's just been eating away at me how much shit I get for being or saying I am American.Of course when I mention its California I hail from people change topics and begin singing some Cali themed song or ask if I know tupac. Its really a two sided hypocritical coin. The same kids who will whine about how terrible America and Americans are, about how many terrible things the us has (supposedly) done and how fat its people are will go stand in line for a big tasty bacon at McDonalds, complain about how hard it is for them to get into a US school and brag about when/if they get the chance to go for a vacation in the US. I could go on writing an essay about this, but if you've stuck with me this far without blindly negative propping me for my two cents than I thank you. People say we are narrow minded, but honestly, everyone is in some way, its in our nature. If loving my country, maybe not for its politics makes me an 'Arrogant prick' then fine, call me what you will. Just know that I'm more than that...as a human and a fellow rider.

 P.s. Lots of Americans are retards too, the world has many of them so my explanation won't fit to all of the nation. Just try to distinguish between the kid trying to have some fun and the in bred hick who's never been outside of his own county. Don't take the jealousy argument as real, its a joke. I've found my humor I used back home does not transfer well, especially to Germany. We just all have to learn to understand and hold back the humor that might be misconstrued as something els. Okay I'm really done now

 I wouldn't worry about it, Germany is officially the worlds least funny country according to an international poll last year.
www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/8560815/Germany-officially-the-worlds-least-funny-country.html


PS. a deserved win by Gwin, even if it is destroying my Dirt Fantasy League

 I think the last words are adressed to me, so just to make sure everybody gets my point right. It´s all about national pride in general, not a specific nationality - America was just the example fitting into this conversation. The border between national pride and fanatism is a blurry line which has fatal influences on nearly anything I can imagine. Superb examples are social relationships between different peoples and within a given society both on a national level or in smaller units and even in far more popular sports than downhill racing, such as football/soccer. I´ve nothing against "feeling connected in a spiritual way" but screaming "U-S-A" (or " Ger-ma-ny") and feeling proud to do so ("yes, we beat them, we´re best!") because someone won a race goes to far.
And that goes for every country or region on this planet, it has nothing to with anything like sympathy, even less when talking about some abstract form like countries. How can you hate countries? I´ve never met one in person...

Long story short, I "neg-proped" an attitude and not the USA.

 MERICA BITCHES

 Damn right.

 these 2 boys know whats up/\/\

 I understand that the common feeling for many other people may be inclined to neg prop any patriotism. I can see where the feelings have been derived from as well. Times with hitler have made people weary of the connotations patriotism have and the way that patriotism could be used against another nationality, race creed, what have you. I just wanna remind you that this awareness is not instilled in everyone so strongly, least of all us Mericans. At least thats what I've observed.

Come to think of it, with your mentioning of the lines being blurry between national pride and fanaticism, I believe that one shouldn't be so worried about this so much as to apply it to some kids on the internet being proud to be where they're from because finally someone of their nationality is Gwinning. As for me and my compatriots up there, we've been raised in an environment where loving our country is damn straight respectable. Fanaticism is certainly not a problem and hasn't been in the past (Don't hold me to this I'm only 18 ). But as for you Germany, you've had some damn harsh instances of a national pride being taken advantage of.

Long story short, due to our wildly different backgrounds one could never hope to fully understand both sides of the story. Although it can't hurt to try.

This is a fun conversation

 I agree, it´s an interesting topic to talk about.

I also agree in your point of different social backgrounds causing different interpretations, but i disagree in hitler being responsible for my point of view. I feel no responsibility for anything that happened before my date of birth (29 years ago) anyway. I understand your point but my argumentation is based on logic/rationalism, maybe philosophy, and not knowledge and experience (which includes certain social aspects you mentioned).

Anyway, to not abuse the comment function of this page, I´m pretty sure we can continue this discussion on another field in the future...maybe when you hook up again with Marco and some guys of the Cycle Culture Crew (Kai, Holger, remember Dirtmasters?). Ask Marco if he knows a "Billi" and he will tell you who I am...rarely make it to ride with him (Marco) though.

Cheers :thumbsup:

 Damn, its one small world, I mean internet...That just scared the crap out of me

But wouldn't you agree 'we' rationalize our logic through the knowledge defined by our experiences weather they be first hand or by other means? Furthermore, with philosophy being the study of knowledge, this leads me to believe that we're actually on the same page.

 Hell yeah, world´s a small village.

I think of it as logic being something else than knowledge. Logic stands above the process of gaining experience or knowledge (there´s a big difference between those two), it questiones someones experiences and knowledge more than ever knowledge gained second hand. But I have to admit that it often happens in the reverse direction, " 'we' rationalize our logic through experience" due to a lack of being able to diversify. That´s human, I know, and human behaviour is comprehensible, too, but that is nothing to just accept. It remains irrational to hate countries, to feel connected to "a bunch of people" without knowing them, to feel responsible for Hitler´s deeds, being a better person by the reason of wealth or appearance...you name it.

Philosophy is not exactly the study of knowledge but the love of wisdom. Its goal is to find answers concerning the existence, the mind, reality, definition, effect and meaning of knowledge, cognition, etc. by rational analysis and argumentation, or else, through what we call logic. Many social aspects have been "outsourced" (;-)) to psychology.

So, we´re not exactly on the same page but definitly reading the same book (without any judgement of who read more).

 I haven't even opened the book yet. It appears that someone has been Neg propping our scholarly conversation, come good sir, let us move this wealth of knowledge somewhere where we might enjoy it in peace! Onwards, to the PB note boards!

 Yes!

 Hell yes, damn he rides soooooo sick!

 boom! dirty great headbutt ay! looked nasty!

 Totally, it's always scary when the cameras immediately cut off from the crash and it was pretty terrifying watching his limp body tumble.. I hope he's alright.

 I wish the best to Neko and Matti. Hopefully we'll get updates soon.

 matti crashed again?!?!

 Ya right in the tail end of the rocks on the 4x track. He wasn't knocked out but it was obvious something was not right.

 not again...

 Lopes would not shut up about pedals, he'd fit right in on the pinkbike forum! So boring.

 That would be cool if we could hear form CG and Troy Brosnan in the booth while they are out.

 true: listen 40 mins in. Barel is also not a bad commentator: extreme.com/mountainbike/1008039/nissan-uci-mtb-world-cup-dh-andorra

 Lopes had some good comments on lines and such. If this is his first time commentating, I think he did a good job.

 He knows bikes and his comments where very constructive. I enjoyed it.

 But he had a bad timing, always talked about some tech stuff while split times. You could nearly see Warner holding and not interrupting him with his (legendary and, on RedbullTV, rare) shoutouts - what a patient man he is ;-)

 Warner and Pagey are good together too.

 I was at a final descent in angel fire a few years ago (when it was still a two run DH race) and the conditions were so awful that the pros all agreed to say "f*ck it" and all went down chainless.

 So much this! I thought Brooke would get a bit higher though, still a nice run from them all

 Quarter of the top 20 kiwis!!

 If Brook was riding clips he would of pulled off a faster time i would say

 Say what? He has all first place finishes, except for that 2nd in S Africa, on Minaars home course!

 oh...he is more consistant...but he doesnt seem to be 6 seconds ahead each time he wins

 he just had a facebook status saying that he is fine! his head just got a little shaken up but not injured at all.

 wow, that's great to hear... looked horrific on video. Hope he has better luck at Windham!!

 I'm sure that more then a few of these guys are looking at footage of his riding and trying to figure out what he's doing.

 It is insane, Trek really has to be doing something right (team support ) besides he is freakin alien

 2 words. To-Mac

 I've always said stiff was the way to go for speed. as for hanging on, the stiffer you go, the more perfect your rebound has to be.

 nope, only 2

 He ran out of fuel in South Africa

 Yup, unfortunately we didn't get video of him fully pinned on the top. He looked pretty chill on the bottom section ( after the near crash ) and barely lost any time.

 Danny Hart's run was amazing! He doesn't give up, and it's very well. Hart is going to be on the 1st place next time!)

 I dont get hows he's so fast!?!!

 Yeah, where does he find the time? It's crazy.

 He's the pinnacle of downhiller evolution. I say let's clone him.

 Americans have gwin, UK has peat, brendan, hart, josh etc, and Canada, well, you have Beiber!!

 I speak for all of Canada when i say we are ashamed that he is Canadian! But it balances out because we have Smith, Whistler, Semenuk, and maple syrup.

 Plumstick - I take Bieber over Jersey Shore anytime

 Smith, Whistler, Semenuk, and maple syrup... I almost just wanted to move to Canada... Almost

 Smith, Whistler, Semenuk, maple syrup, and Brett Tippie! Not bad.

 Can't forget Drew Bezanson, Matt MacDuff, etc...

 Don't forget the Timbits!

 i meant - are you out of your god damn mind- to waki designs who said he would take beiber over jersey shore. i guess the canadians thought i was dissing them.

 Angryham: Bieber is just one kid that wets a part of teenage girl population and pisses off every single male without sexual deviation towards young boys (to whom he must be a nr1 hero of memo-wanks). However he carries no threat to the mental state of our societies.

Jersey Shore on the other hand is a brain tissue softener and dissolvant, that highers people's tolerance towards pure stupidity. It creates unwanted, devastating thoughts like: "there are more people as cool as me", or "I feel so much better about myself for not being that fkn stupid". I prefer my daughter getting wet watching Bieber (ok she still has 12 years or so) than watching one episode of Jersey Shore!

 Word!

 Balls of steel? Titanium please

 www.vitalmtb.com/videos/features/Gee-Athertons-Horrible-Crash-at-Mont-Sainte-Anne-2012,14025/sspomer,2

 Good job everyone! You can tell I was the one guzzling hard cider during the race. LULZ

 It's not the first time for Gee to go through the front door this year. Has Fox always kickin, ever fkn marketing machine got some issues on his shock rebound?

 That's also something I wonder... if anyone knows, I'm very curious to know