Opinion: We Need A Cyclocross...

Oct 10, 2013
by Matt Wragg  
I'm going to be at a loss very soon. World Cup season is done. Rampage is coming, so is the final round of the Enduro World Series, but on their own they aren't going to get me through the long, dark months between now and the re-start of the race season. Both the World Cup downhill and the Enduro World Series start in April, that's about six months to fill, six months without any racing to follow.

Sure, extending the race season would help, a six to eight race series is never going to cover much of the year. With its 20 races, Formula One runs from March to late November, cutting the dreaded off-season down to just three months. But right now, the World Cup and EWS seasons aren't going to change. I'm sure there are very good reasons as to why they sit at their current length and, new president or not, the UCI won't be making any sudden changes just because I want something to watch on a Sunday afternoon in December.

Drop Bars thin nobly tyres and lots of rain... not your usual chosen method of riding a bike off road but the 3 Peaks Cyclocross race is a truly unique race that really sorts the men from the boys. Nick Craig here on his way to 3rd place at the 2012 race.

Road cyclists don't have this problem, they have cyclocross. Once the season ends, riders pick up knobblier tyres and take to the mud. Suddenly the rain that keeps them off the tarmac provides countless fields and puddles to run through with your bike on your shoulder as they avoid treacherous obstacles. Like foot-high curbs. As far as I can tell, the main deal with cyclocross is to use an awkward bike to make dull trails less boring and suffer trying to pedal through the worst filth you can imagine. If you're going to ride off-road, why you wouldn't take a mountain bike and ride good trails is lost on me, but who am I to knock people for having fun? If that's your idea of a good time, I'm not one to judge, but it's not going to scratch my winter racing itch.

While cyclocross itself may leave me cold, the blueprint is perfect. A sport that thrives on the shitty winter conditions to put some excitement into the off-season. At a time when racers are preparing themselves for the demands of a gruelling race season, cyclocross races are usually single day events that can be worked into training programmes. There seems to be a lot of beer involved too, which is a definite plus point for any sport.

So what are the practicalities? The mountains are out. As the Winter X-Games proved more than a decade ago now, mountain biking on snow is not big or clever. Skis and snowboards are wonderful inventions and you wouldn't take a snowboard to a bike park, would you? 4X is out. This isn't the time or place to debate the demise of 4X, but what is certain is that doing gate starts in the cold, slick mud is no fun at all. Whatever it is needs to be a gravity sport, otherwise we may as well join the big cyclocross party.

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This leaves us with just one possible solution: Grass bank dual slalom. Two start gates at the top of a grass bank, one finish line at the bottom and some flags in between to make a course. A sport that makes the most of the winter weather and combines those two great, universal human passions of head-to-head racing and watching grown-adults sliding on their face in the mud.

What's more, it would be simple, low cost, adaptable to any country and low risk for riders who don't want to get injured in the off-season. Rules could stay simple: Two heats, one for either lane; flag to start the race and first one to cross the line wins; miss a gate and you're DQ'd;. No lycra; No "funny" costumes, we're not single-speeders; and, drinking during racing to be encouraged at all times. Who wouldn't tune in to watch the world's fastest racers half-drunk, drifting flat grass turns and sliding down a muddy slope?

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164 Comments
  • 55 7
 "Skis and snowboards are wonderful inventions and you wouldn't take a snowboard to a bike park, would you?"

Whistler, Stevens Pass says hi.
  • 44 1
 I can't be the only one that caught the implication that he was comparing bikes at ski slopes In winter to snowboards at bike parks.......in summer.
  • 15 1
 The article is about another racing option. not just riding in the winter. cyclocross offers a way for RACERS to stay fit in the winter and keep the competitive edge but that said the sport of cyclocross is turning into it's own beast entirely.
  • 25 2
 I have to admit the idea of cyclocross seemed weird to me at first but its the fact that your racing against 50 other people at the same time through rough muddy conditions that makes it fun. I ride DH, Enduro, XC, road, and cx, I also used to race bmx and also park and DJ and trials... they are all fun in different ways, you just gotta try them all before you talk! If it has two wheels, chances are it will be fun!
  • 34 1
 We have perfect conditions for cyclocross 365 days of the year. What is this snow you speak of?

Such is life in England.
  • 39 2
 ........... thinking FAT BIKE RACING is on the horizon.
  • 3 1
 @sortah where I live snow is five feet deep. So dont rub it in. Some just dont have the option.
  • 7 1
 He lives in Florida? Im kind of wondering what kind of snow riding he does??
  • 4 2
 Riding in the sand is sorta like snow riding....only you'll be in shorts and flipflops instead of tights and base layers.......
  • 13 6
 This guy doesn't know what's good. Cyclocross is rad as f&%k. Don't knock it till you try it.
  • 22 2
 Riding mildly inappropriate bikes on mildly inappropriate terrain is a blast. If you think you need to shave your legs and wear a road lid to race CX you probably need to actually go to a CX race. It is a laid back experience with ample mud, grit, grime, beer drinking, heckling and sometimes fireworks. If your CX races don't embody the same spirit as mountain biking you're probably doing it wrong. The author doesn't seem like he's ever really raced CX. Pushing a 33mm knobby through peanut-butter-bullshit-mud into a frozen rutted corner at race speed without dumping the bike requires finesse and steel nerves. Go race CX. You will have more fun than doing a grass dual slalom DH.
  • 8 0
 not as rad as DH fat bike racing in the snow. Smile
  • 5 1
 In all seriousness I agree AllTheBikes ... Ive been thinking of getting a CX bike
  • 3 0
 Indoor trials series 2013
  • 2 0
 raced cross quite a bit. i do not wish to step inside that hurt locker anymore but if the aim is to be competitive and stay fit for any competition these days some kinda drop bars in your program can't hurt ya. even if just for the mental break.
  • 3 0
 SORTAH - you don't have to name call I just found it odd - I mean Im thinking "he's lives in FL no shit he rides all year"..... I am to believe that you leave Florida in the winter to ride bikes in the snow? ...... Im confused, lol, I wasn't trying to be an ass, just honestly wondering. If you are a world traveler that's great- Im happy for you. I do ride through the winter, and it's cold, and often uncomfortable, but better than sitting on a couch eating chicken any day Wink
  • 1 2
 i ski aline
  • 3 1
 isnt the coastal crew solving this problem for us all?
  • 4 0
 Why not think about the ppl who actually run and support pinkbike? Profile local small time builders, or riders? There are LOTS of ppl in just my area of the south who have "secret" jump spots and/or trails that we/they have built that are gnarly. Yeah maybe not World Cup gnarly, but ya gotta start somewhere. As much as I love pulling up Pinkbike and seeing the Pacific Northwest plastered all over everything, winning the POD's and VOD's, there is a MUCH bigger world to mountain biking than Washington, BC, and that general area. Oh and I also forgot to mention, yes we don't have huge mountains in the south, but we ride year round, so venture out of that lil Pacific Northwest bubble and explore a little huh? Might be surprised what you find!!
  • 6 2
 I've done cyclocross a couple of times and have learnt my lesson; don't do it, it sucks.
  • 2 2
 @deli.. i agree. i always see these dudes out on the trail.. and they dont look like theyre having any fun.

buy a REAL mtb so you can have some REAL fun you tards. 700c is for the road, not my trails..

edit:
id much rather see fat bike racing, rather than this crap..
  • 2 1
 My Cyclocross bike is a mainstay in my quiver! I commute on it, swap the tires and road ride, ride techy gnarly trails, and get loose and wild all winter! It is a must have for anyone who experiences off-season.
  • 3 1
 For a while I rode my CX bike on my local XC trails because I was in between MTBs and it was probably the most fun I had riding those trails. let it be known though, those trails are WC XC spec, i.e. super buff and not very tech. The slipperiness of skinnies and the 90's braking performance of cantis made the ride much more exciting
  • 32 1
 Fatbike enduro grass bank world cup.
  • 13 3
 Only enduro specific 650b wheels tho
  • 12 2
 and with a bamboo frame
  • 10 2
 brakeless
  • 7 2
 fixie
  • 18 0
 lets also not forget about that fanny pack that PB reviewed not too long ago. gotta have one of those.
  • 2 0
 Only if it comes in denim, cuz then the fanny pack will be manly.
  • 3 0
 maybe a fanny pack mustache?
  • 2 0
 And really manly short shorts, preferably in neon
  • 3 0
 no goggles, no gate
  • 27 1
 For a lot of us the grass is covered by snow for 5 months. If we see grass, it is not winter.
  • 19 0
 to be fair, I don't see why racing in the UK stops for the winter. I don't stop riding in the winter, so why should people stop racing? If anything, riding/racing in the wet and mud is way more fun.
  • 3 0
 if i see grass , that means its time to go for a bike ride here and put on some mud tires if its wet out.
you dont host a bike race in the winter on a slope thats gets lots of fresh powder, you hold it on the east coast over here and make good use of the normally shitty icy conditions compared to the west coast, the colder it is out the faster the snow gets . the jumps in the snow are the best , when packed well, ive seen people boost so big that im sure that they were giving the world record a run without even knowing it ( alright abit of a exageration but like 70-90' on a snow boarder cross track with a dh bike), but if it snows the night before or if it gets warm out , it sucks !! thats why you have to pick the right spots and time of winter for this type of event.

i want more winter races on the slopes
you can even do a dual slalom on the slopes as well and people still fall and you still can drink beer , lots of beer!!
  • 11 0
 you could all just come down south...where you know, nature and stuff makes it summer...
  • 1 0
 I agree with this, in the rockies cyclcross wouldn't even work (it seems masochistic and contrived anyway). Whisch is why the fatbike revolution is so cool. With a fatbike and 50 miles of groomed trails out the back door winter riding is possible and actually looks fun!

Hell yeah Fatbikes! Lets bring back snow riding, with a bike that actually works!
  • 5 0
 If i could make a recomendation: South America!

Bariloche, Argentina (my dream home)
Chile, Peru, Boliva, Brazil
All these places are world class
  • 2 0
 Or bring the warmth here. Just spray all the aerosol cans you can into the air and speed this global warming thing up so the cold is no longer an issue! (this MAY have other consequences though).
  • 2 0
 Nah, maybe just a few minor catastrophes, but think of the new dirt opening up in greenland! And who rides near the coast anyway?
  • 11 0
 A decent idea at this point would be to have Pinkbike put on there own series. Put together a group of Pros, mechanics, or photographers even amatuers in a video contest. Make the parameters about riding in the winter, training, or whatever and do a tournament style bracket and have the PB community vote. Do it once a month and have a point system then crown a winner come spring time. That would cure the winter blues...
  • 3 0
 If i understand right the pros can't ride non-uci events. Prevents competition from inovative new formats. I hate UCI. It is a monopoly and should be dismembered
  • 5 0
 You can't dismember it!!! It wouldn't have a leg to stand on Wink
  • 11 0
 Bring it on. Any sport that's dirty and has beer at the end is worth watching!!
  • 3 0
 yeahh thats why i love mountain bike. its dirty and funn plus beer at the end
  • 4 0
 I have drank more watching CX than DH. Local CX guys party surprisingly hard
  • 1 0
 beer during Wink ever heard of a handup? if you're lucky you get bacon
  • 9 0
 Race some regional BMX races here in the UK. ÂŁ3.00 to enter at Nuneaton last weekend saw 70 riders hit it.
Birmingham BMX track last night, flood lit till 21:30 and not a drop of mud insight!!
  • 7 0
 Cross racing has a whole different feel to racing than anything else. It really is mostly about how far you can push your body and how much you can hurt. It takes a twisted person to really enjoy cross. There is some sick pleasure from battling in a pack in shitty weather and cold and finally breaking the other racers and pulling away all while feeling like you lungs and legs are going to explode. You have to really enjoy pain and pushing your body to the max.
  • 3 2
 And then there's the extra level of crazy that some of us take it to, and do it on a singlespeed.
  • 2 0
 I concur
  • 2 14
flag burt-reynolds (Oct 10, 2013 at 8:34) (Below Threshold)
 And destroying the ground that you're riding on. Yeah, let's get out our road bikes, put nobbys on the tires and ride through some nasty mud, maybe we will carry the bike around for a while too. Likely to be the most ignorant thing I've witnessed.
  • 3 0
 And DH doesn't tear up the mud? Anything with a lot of bikes in the mud is going to tear things up. Quit being ignorant and giving DHers a bad name.
  • 5 0
 A mountain biker complaining about cycling associated erosion and calling it ignorant.... and they say Americans don't understand irony lol
  • 1 0
 oh my god! tearing up a park that nobody is going to use this time of year? those savage horrible bastards! seriously get a life dude
  • 2 1
 Being ignorant? Haha. DH is nothing like CX. In CX, they choose random grass parks and make 6 inch deep mud spots, randomly without any thought of drainage. Completely irresponsible building, which is the opposite idea of building mountain bike trails. Do you guys understand now?
  • 6 0
 Don't knock cyclocross until you try it. I'm a diehard mountain biker at heart but tried it last season and am hooked. It's perfect as it helps you keep your fitness up in the offseason while having a good time out in the muck with friends. It's interesting to see which courses different riders excel at too based on your primary discipline. Check one out!!
  • 5 0
 Or how about some bright spark organises races in places that are now in season? just because Whistler and the Alps are finished, doesn't mean the rest of the world has their bikes packed away in the shed, NZ is coming in to season and there is also the south of Spain for a short trip for the Euro guys, the whole of Asia is coming into the dry season which has some sick trails, a few enduro races would be awesome there.

The UCI needs to get the hell out of our sport, the fact they started the race season so late and the weather was shite for the last 2 races just go to show they haven't got a clue.
  • 5 1
 Since the local trails have been taken over by nimby, "lowest common denominator", "flow trail" bullcrap, I've started riding the CX bike there to keep things interesting. As trails all over are being dumbed down, I'd recommend it to anyone who wants to keep things challenging. Sure it's a road bike, but when you're passing the local closet roadies who push those lame changes, it's fun to see the frustration on their faces when they realize making the trail 4 feet wide with zero rocks or roots only made things worse for them....
  • 1 0
 I wish i had your problems.
  • 1 0
 Hey dude, you're a short drive from Kingdom trails! go ride!
  • 5 0
 Hey! I'm doing Southridge USA races in Fontana from now until March, there are like 9 between now and March, they would fill in a few days for sure!!!!
  • 2 0
 well we're extremely lucky to be in a place where it doesnt snow. but thats only for like socal and AZ and a little NV
  • 2 0
 Here in nothern AZ it snowed last night.
  • 2 0
 it snowed in big bear pretty hard last night. but yes Fontana - we are lucky to have such a consistent race series year after year here in sunny socal.
  • 3 0
 Just go skiing/boarding (yes during the winter bike parks tend to be covered in a magical white powder known as snow - and they instantly become snow parks Wink ), or take up enduro on dirt scooters - we used to race year round. Snow + a 1" layer of mud on top of frozen ground makes for interesting challenges...
  • 3 0
 I'll be completely honest with you. CX seems quite dumb until you try it. I've raced a little bit, and it really is pretty fun. Most of the people doing it aren't doing it out of competition, it's a big party. After you finish your race you drink until you puke.
  • 3 0
 I thought the article was about having another spectator mtb series. Not participation. I don't think cx would be fun to watch on a screen. I can hear Warner saying, "look at the time. *yawn*"

myy guess is that the problem with the southern hemisphere racing is that all the major sponsors cater to the northern hemisphere. So they're more interested in winter sport promotion. I bet there's some rad racing or slopestyle going on that doesn't get any coverage.
  • 4 2
 I thought the cyclocross explanation was fn hilarious:

"As far as I can tell, the main deal with cyclocross is to use an awkward bike to make dull trails less boring and suffer trying to pedal through the worst filth you can imagine."

hahaha well said!
  • 3 1
 Except that cross is not raced on trails really and that cross bikes aren't awkward, they are the fastest bikes for the course.
  • 2 0
 So true, nailed it with that, the author did!
  • 2 0
 I agree whole heartedly, as long as you can find some grass. This is exactly what we did a couple years ago once the Bike Park closed down. www.pinkbike.com/video/166931

Really need to get a couple more of those going this year actually...
  • 3 1
 Hmm the demise of 4X? Really pretty sure you watched the PINKBIKE videos from each round the 4X Pro Tour this year and watch the 4X Championships live on Redbull?

Any how in the Uk 4X racing continues to sell out races at Chicksands bike park all over winter.
  • 2 0
 How about cyclecross that has some gnar in it drop, jumps, rock gardens, whoops, etc. taking a 5' drop on a cross bike is actually pretty awesome. Just add more dh to cx courses!!
  • 3 1
 Trust me, a two foot drop is scary enough on a CX bike.
  • 3 0
 World Cup courses have whoops and some have step ups. More and more bmx stuff is making its way into the courses.
  • 1 0
 awesome.
  • 1 0
 @erik possibly because when bmxers retire, they switch to cross. which is not a bad thing by the way.
  • 1 0
 Sven Nys comes from bmx actually, but the courses are evolving in Belgium to be faster and more exciting because the drunk Belgians seem to enjoy it more that way. And it's exciting on TV.
  • 2 0
 Not 5', but still pretty big for a cx bike: instagram.com/p/e3h-J8r5e8
  • 5 1
 No... Just ride a trails bike with winter/ice tires if you insist on not skiing or snowboarding..
  • 4 1
 "mountain biking on snow is not big or clever" You could not be more wrong! What about white style? www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xpIXkmaR9Q
  • 2 0
 Or just move to southern California, and enjoy the riding w/o the snow. You could send photos to all your less fortunate buddies stuck in the snow of you riding places like Laguna, Riverside, San Diego, Santa Barbara, etc..
  • 1 0
 Same here in southern France. Can't even do CX, not enough mud between rocks.
  • 2 1
 Most surely I am going to get hammered by this, but the truth is that in my not so humble opion CycloCross is sort of pointless, why do Cross Country in the Mud in Road Bikes? I mean what is the point of riding something that can actually be ridden in any XC hardtail?

Well, as we say in my country: there is always something for any taste.
  • 2 0
 you wont have to dismount for all the barriers but prepare to get smoked on everything else.
  • 4 1
 CX was around long before mountain biking (it started in 1902) as a means for road cyclists to train during the off season. The road bike frame gives the correct geometry and lightness for carrying. Anyway, give it a shot and you'll understand. XC races dont often get handups of beer, bacon, and cash mid race. also the fans are just about as bad as hecklers rock, except that is at every race.
  • 3 0
 people that knock cross bikes haven't ridden them, they're insane fun! your argument of using an xc hardtail for that is the same as "why aren't downhill tracks on roads? it's kind of pointless to ride trails that slow you down" or "why don't you just ride a mx bike for xc? xc bikes are slower through the course" go grab a cross bike, go to a race, start drifting around and get heckled, there is nothing more fun
  • 1 0
 Will have to try it then.
  • 1 0
 Where I live the real mtb trails get muddy in the winter and they get rutted and trashed. Please, please, please go for a Cyclocross ride instead of wrecking the mtb trails. Plus ruining my expensive fs in the mud isn't worth it, I'd much rather trash my $600 second hand cross bike, which has gobs more tire/mud clearance than just about any mtb I've seen anyways.
  • 2 0
 I don´t even know what´s this all about, I ride my bike all year round. Sunny hot Summer or Super Cold Rainy Winter days, it doesn´t really mater...
I guess that not having snow here is a good thing
  • 1 0
 Don't knock it til you try it! I'm a mountain biker and cyclocross is a killer way to end the summer and fall. It's definitely not just for roadies, the fastest guys in our local series are mountain bikers, and some of the best entertainment at the races is watching fast roadies struggle and get smoked. Great way to work on fitness and bike handling skills for any type of cycling. Enduro dorks could benefit greatly from a couple cross races...
  • 1 0
 ...what a lack of imagination.

I mean, DH racing in the snow, crashed ice bike racing, fat bike marathon races on snowy tracks, etc. etc.
XC/all mountain would also be possible on snow in a lot of locations depending on the amount of snow.

Racing with whatever type of bike on ski slopes would be tremendous as well...
Race Tracks could be prepared with snow grooming vehicles.

I don't own a fat bike but still ride my bike in winter (even when there is quite a lot of snow); it's damn hard but damn fun.

C'mon, it is not that difficult, why do some people fail to see that MTB is made for proper winters!
  • 1 0
 This winter as previous winters the 661 Mini Downhill races in the Forest of Dean are very popular with all sorts of riders and this year we have added the One Industries Mini Enduro on 3rd November which is nearly sold out.

So in the Uk we have 4X, Mini DH & Mini Enduro all going on over the winter may Matt you should come and give it a go...
  • 1 0
 If there's snow, there's fat bikes now. Don't confuse the idiocy of DH bikes on steep slopes setting speed records and trying to do stunts at the X-games with what can be done with 4" wide tires now. If you can snowshoe it, you can fat bike it. Cyclocross is strictly a fall months thing in most areas that even run races. Its over by november.

www.bikerumor.com/2013/10/10/ib13-fatbike-round-up-the-big-the-odd-the-motorized
  • 1 0
 february...
  • 1 0
 Having been to watch my first cyclecross event at my local velodrome last week I have come to realise its crazy. The bike skill and stamina to win one of these races even at a grass roots level is mental. The guys are my local track were hammering there skinny wheel bikes up hills that wouldnt be out of place on a downhill track full of ruts and roots. Yes its mental and a bit stupid but so is throwing yourself down a hill as fast as you can or over a gap its all cycling.
  • 1 0
 Less time watching Red Bull TV means more time getting out and riding. That said there are some decent winter XC/Marathon events in the UK - the most insane being the Strathpuffer (which I've never done). I suppose for event organisers the possibility of ice, or snow, on the roads (or the course) is a big variable affecting the turn out, and therefore the potential sponsorship etc, not to mention emergency service access. And with DH races could affect uplift availability. There's also the extra environmental impact which could limit the venues and routes available.

As far as I can tell Cyclocross races, with a couple of exceptions, are generally just riding round a muddy field in a not too remote location. So this stuff is less of a problem
  • 2 1
 Ow Wragg you docile c*nt!

"4X is out. This isn't the time or place to debate the demise of 4X, but what is certain is that doing gate starts in the cold, slick mud is no fun at all."

"This leaves us with just one possible solution: Grass bank dual slalom. Two start gates at the top of a grass bank, one finish line at the bottom and some flags in between to make a course. A sport that makes the most of the winter weather and combines those two great, universal human passions of head-to-head racing and watching grown-adults sliding on their face in the mud."

Give your head a wobble you twat

Ill educated opinions from an ill educated prick
  • 1 0
 Cyclocross is so much fun. I can definitely see how it doesn't appeal to a lot of people. You really are riding through the worst conditions imaginable only to throw your bike on your shoulder and sprint up a hill that is too steep to ride up. Personally, I love it. Winter is a time for CX and skiing. My big bike can come out to play when the trails thaw out.
  • 1 0
 cyclocross bikes can literally make almost any climb really fun. forget about the descent for awhile. and pedaling elbow to elbow in a pelaton... on terrain like cyclocross.... its nuts.
  • 4 1
 just keep ridin your bike but with your ski/snowboard clothes..... ridin a bike on a ski slope is really fun
  • 2 2
 I'd rather try and have fun on a fat bike than shave my hairy legs and put my ass on a cyclocross saddle. I used to do road cycling by the past. It ended up with a worn knee, lumbar pain and the impossibility to start the following DH/FR season. Sometimes rest during winter is good for you and for saving money to prepare the next season and repair your bike.
  • 1 0
 no need to shave your legs, and cross bikes use MTB saddles
  • 3 1
 if that happened to you in road you clearly didn't do it right.
  • 1 1
 finnrambo, for sure you know better than me how I did...
  • 1 0
 yesterday i went to ride my local jumps. and then tons of people showed up on cross bikes and asked us if we were ravin. we said sure the came second. it is so much fun even on bmx
  • 1 1
 Yes to fat bikes, fat bike races and fat bikes coverage. With all the development seen in the last months (double suspension/carbon frames, etc.), this is an interesting trend to follow. As for me, even though I enjoy skiing in the winter, I don't always have time to hit the slopes but MTBing in the winter is great fun and enhances technical skills.
  • 1 0
 key word "trend"
  • 1 0
 NO you need to grow a pair then proceed to sac up and go ride your damn mountain bike in the snow! or if not strap some sort of board to your feet and shred some slopes. Cyclecross is hell on wheels
  • 1 0
 no love for a kamikazee/klunker style races on gravel fire roads that don't get muddy or have slick roots? I think that's exactly what you are thinking of for the downhill rider's cyclocross.
  • 2 0
 Simple answer. Have a winter MTB series. We do an XC series over in Jersey and it's always well attended.
  • 1 0
 Fat Bike Winter Enduro Series? Something like this www.iditabike.com but with a series of Six or Seven shorter individual races.
  • 2 0
 I don't think I can afford another $10,000 bike with lil knobby tires to race CX
  • 1 0
 I got my cross bike for like 1800, and its full carbon! Its really not that expensive, the most expensive cross bikes I have ever seen come with sram red hydraulic are like 6000 (price of a demo).
  • 3 0
 The supercross season starts in January!
  • 2 0
 Learn to love sliding on snow. Skis, board, splitboard, xc, backcountry, resorts... it's all good. That is all.
  • 1 0
 I have a solution to everyones problems! Come ride in Bootleg Canyon, our season is just getting started. (Cyclecrossers need not apply)
  • 1 0
 If you can't find the fun in doing gate starts in cold, slick mud, then I don't think your doing it quite right Wink 4X rules!!! ...as does the desire to have a go at CX..
  • 1 0
 Does no one understand how fun climbing technical terrain on a 15 pound cyclocross bike can be? go clip into one and go climb something you can on your mtn bike.
  • 1 0
 I used to love cyclocross but me real love is mtb. There no news about Sam Hill knee?http://www.pedal.com.br/sam-hill-passa-por-cirurgia-no-joelho_texto7531.html
  • 1 0
 Agree with the author, cheap thrills, great idea! Maybe add in a muddy steep hill climb to get back to the top - then you've got the fitness component too.
  • 4 1
 Any body can ride cross not just roadies.
  • 3 0
 I've tried cyclocross... it'll kick your ass!
  • 1 1
 CX is rad but Pinkbike has to stay pure MTB! If you need to follow racing to get by then perhaps look for something going down on the half of the planet that's about to hit summer...
  • 2 0
 Simple, move to Chile and bike all year round, 5000km from north to south has it's advantages
  • 1 0
 Since when was 4x out the window? If your in the UK get over to Chicksands for their winter 4x series. The best racing you'll do this winter!!!!!!!!
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 get a dj and head to your local bmx track. everyone pissing and moaning about snow more than likely has a heated indoor track within a dog sleds ride...
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 And why would we start encouraging MAMILs to chew up the trails on 35c tires when they're deep in mud exactly?
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 snowboarding, sking, hockey, fat bikes etc...
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 Foot-high curbs are so treacherous these days. Lets see those guys throw caution to the wind, though, and send it.
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 The problem isn't the curbs as much as the barriers. Tiny hurdles about 18" tall, and usually 2-5 in a row.
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 Just race cross. It will get you fit. There's also fat bike races. Grass bank what? That's not for bike racers.
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 just come to the south emisphere
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 Aren't fat bike races are the MTB cyclecross.
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 "But what is certain is that doing gate starts in the cold, slick mud is no fun at all" Errrrr yes it is fun!!!! I love the winter 4x series.
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 Trials? requires little indoor space, will improve trail riding by leaps and bounds.
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 Snowscoot is a pretty good alternative, though I don't have to worry about snow :-)
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 Yeah... NO. Santa Cruz, CA, year round shred-season.
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 For sale 2011 Cinelli Zydeco CX bike
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 2 words snow biking
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 East Coast! The South! Tons of potential venues...
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 I love living in California. The only change is it gets 20 cooler.
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 Do it!!!! Cx is gnar!!!
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 the new coastal crew park is gonna run year round. problem solved.
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 In ottawa we ride fat bikes in the winter.
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 INDOOR 4X! STADIUMS MAKE GREAT PLACES FOR THIS!
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 Supercross starts in.january Smile
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 Hm, I didn't know Doc Brown was into Cyclocross...
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 you guys are dickheads
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 Yes, and The Big S makes a bike just for you!!!
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 Come to Florida.
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 Pumptracks!!!
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flag kev-jones (Oct 10, 2013 at 6:09) (Below Threshold)
 yes
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 yea
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 Cyclocross...yawn.
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