Overall Standings - UCI World Cup 2012

 CG always wins! Even laying in bed.

 word.

 Ain't that the damn truth.

 Minnaar certainly looks liked a whipped puppy. At least he's world champ though!

 dude, what? you take your life beliefs from someone you have never met or anything, just because hes a fast rider, then say hes lost your respect (like he needs it) for not competing, but why should he? whats the point in risking injuring himself for the sake of it? and its not a violent sport, MMA or kick boxing are violent sports, we have no (intended) contact with each other, were not hitting each other or anything, and any injuries are your own fault. the adrenaline bit ill agree with, but everyone has theyre own off bike demeanour, thats just gwins.

 Oh, I get it, Protour is attempting to be one of those trolls I hear so much about. Poor execution.

 Protour, most of what your saying is bollocks, but I think that gwin should have raced aswell, like peaty back ages ago, when he had a injury, but had already won the overall, so made that beer helmet to race in.

 I don't think you understand what Sarcastic means. Protour is not sarcastic - he means everything he writes. Which is pretty horrifying.

 @Protour www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

 That was pretty funny Dunkaroos

 all I know by not racing Gwin killed my fantasy team. 20 bucks lost. Oh well.

 sar·casm   [sahr-kaz-uhm] noun
1.harsh or bitter derision or irony.
2.a sharply ironical taunt; sneering or cutting remark: a review full of sarcasms.

As I say that isn't Protour. He's just an idiot. He isn't trolling either as far as I can tell - he just writes what he believes which seems to be exactly what winds everyone up. Sure PB discussions aren't life changing but if you are going to post on a forum surely you expect people to agree or disagree with you and comment on what you say - otherwise what's the point of having a forum/comments section? Personally Protours evangelical brand of BS makes my skin crawl.

 Don't bother arguing with CFOxtrot. Even if he's wrong he won't back down.

 Pauly, thanks for cut-and-paste because you don't know what sarcasm actually is. If you don't understand sarcasm, then just post the definition, and imply that posting the definition is the same as understanding how sarcasm works IN PRACTICE. cyrix, blanket statements about someone else are what's pathetically wrong.

 ...and the last one. Damn Gee looks so happy...

 Statistically, better than Gwin.

 I agree, stats are better for Rachel, but keep in mind Fort Bill, she won qualis, but not finals, and Ragot won finals but did not place in quails But still, great season for both of them!

 Wyndham was questionable.

 that stache he's rockiin' is boss

 4th for the year is pretty darn respectable, especially considering he only had the one win... that's a pretty elite group he's surrounded by there...

 That shot of the five top blokes is pure gold. The variation in direction of eyes and facial expression, not at all posed for. A great shot, really getting some personality across. That's one of the shots of the year for me, off the wall and totally out of left field. Top marks to that photographer!

 I think she just looks a bit embarassed about being seen in public wearing Ugg Boots

 Fit though!

 rachael atherton needs a shoe sponsor!

 myriam is hot

 Well they made this DH carbon thing a while back... still goes pretty good.

 of course but they're getting some serious feedback now with the athertons in the team so progression is in the post. .

 I can see that also. But perhaps its fine being that its almost a curse to win. Peaty, Hill and Hart all won and then its a crap next season.

 I think Peaty and Hill killed it on the WC over a period of years. True, Peaty hasn't fired on all cylinders since that worlds win, but let's face it he's pretty old and he's got kids. That's why Hill has slowed down too, not because he won the worlds a few times.

Hart won the worlds twice in four years (one junior) and was ripping in the WC until he damaged his shoulder this year. He would have been 4th overall if he did a full season.

 peatys not old really at all. he looks old. and sam is still giviiner and he has a kid

 Steve Peat is 38, that's pretty old considering most World Cup riders retire just after 30. And he still finishes in the top 20, amazing guy.

 I wouldn't want to bet against Gwin next year at the worlds at PMB, he kills it on that track.

 So does Minaar

 Yeah, it's hard to see past those 2 and Sik Mik on that course.

 Im with ya mate,wicked rider to watch.I think he's definitely one of the few who's gonna rip in a few years for the seniors

 Yeah BRUNI i rides faster than Brosnan a few years ago!

 Luis Bruno is a beast. Dunno if he's any faster than Troy though, Troy's only one year ahead of him. Both sick guys, I reckon there will be some close fought races between the 2 of them in a few years time.

 It's only stupid if you think he's serious. Since this is just MTB discussion, why are you taking it so seriously? I find Protour the most entertaining poster at PB.

I find Gwin's personality boring, though his race results are not boring! His personality strikes me as similar to someone who used to be wasted all the time on meth, found God, and now devotes everything to Jesus. His race results can't be challenged though!

 They don't, The reason Gwin won and only got 200 points is because he didnt get any for qualifying.

 Ragot should be the one that's pissed off, losing the Overall by a Commissaire's decision (when Rachel went outside the tape at Windham).

But she's not. Sang froid indeed.

 Myriam Nicole is not Impressed.............(US Olympics Reference)

 Niether is Greg Minnar

 Pompon not pleased to have injuries getting in the way of beating Rachel A for the overall. Pompon will be fired up next season!

 I think she went to Norway for the parties - maybe she's just hungover?!

 World Champ is decided in one race. Nothing to do with the World Cup series.

 World champs is a 1 off race, the world cup is a series.
I don't know if you do leagues and cups in the big american sports, but generally in football (soccer to you guys) there is a league and a cup in each country, its kinda like that deal you know

 Gotcha, thanks... It only seemed goofy to me because they are both UCI...our big sports here have 1 league with 2 divisions, each division with their own championship, then those 2 divisional champs will play each other for the league championship...thanks for explaining! Even the AMA supercross lites series is like that...east and west then the season closes with an east vs west championship in Las Vegas

 The one off world championships is a joke in my opinion. The world cup champ is the best rider based on consistency of performance, not luck, and therefore should be the world champion. A ten race world cup season with the overall winner crowned champion would have much more relevance.

They could select one race to carry double points if they really want to hang on to the archaic one day worlds principle. Do that for ten years then drop the double points from the double points race.

I mean next year, PMB worlds, everyone's most hated course (except Minnaar and thats only because it's his home race and he goes well there, not because he actually likes the track). Real bike handlers, you are shit out of luck. Everyone break out dropper posts and pump your tyres up to win the DH world championships. That's not cool.

 I still like it because it's a special race, puts a lot of pressure on the riders in that one race since it's so important. It's cool that there are 2 seperate titles, makes the sport more interesting. But yeah, PMB should not be World Champs course.

 World champs is teams made up of riders from various countries. World cup is teams made up from one country

 ridenflow: If you follow hockey, think of it as kind of like regular season champion (World Cup) and Stanley Cup champ (World Champs), but regular season champ does have prestige in DH. Not the best example, but you get the idea, they're different things.

 World Championships is unrelated to World Cup. The riders who contest the win tend to be similar, but you can win the World Champs without ever winning a single World Cup race, and you can win every single World Cup race while losing the World Champs. In the World Cup they represent themselves, and their sponsors. In the World Champs they represent their country.

 I agree that its stupid that the winner of one race (the worlds) carries the title of "world champ" which is given as much if not more weight than winning the overall world cup, which everyone has to agree is a better determining factor of who the best rider is.

But with that said, I like the way it is. Even though its stupid and doesn't make sense, its makes the season more interesting. I mean take this year for instance. GWin had the overall wrapped up prior to the World Championships, but the Worlds still go off like the super bowl with everyone from the riders and the media amped through the roof for it. I mean to me as a fan, two "championships" up for grabs each year just provides the opportunity for more exciting and compelling racing to watch.

 Yeah BRUNI i rides faster than Brosnan a few years ago!

 I think it's this was because it run by the UCI and in other cycling disciplines, i.e. road cycling, they have different races that aren't part of a series (The Tour de France, Giro d'Italia etc.), so there is not a title which is the equivalent to the World Cup Champ.