Paul Bas - First Natural Terrain Double Backflip

 I was expecting natural terrain to mean no building/minimal building, like a lot of the lines built by the riders in the red bull rampage... But that lip has had some pretty serious spade work.

Still massive props (especially after some of those "landings")

 Exactly my thinking, I don't want to take away from Bas doing the double flip - its insane, just feel that there needs to be some clarification as to what he's calling "natural terrain."

 the kicker might have been a freaking awesome natural phenomenon... you never know

 It was cool, but in what way is that "natural" terrain. It was natural matter reformed into jumps, and that has been done before. Very cool thing to do, but by no means the first anything.

 @togoodie

Reductio ad absurdum - look it up (hint: It's not a Harry Potter spell)..

secondly.. ya.. pretty vague on that definition of "natural".. given his jump wasn't anything different than something you'd find in a bike park or dirt jump lot I'm wondering if he was maybe just trying to say that that was HIS first double backflip?

 Took Latin for 4 years... I'm good.. LOL My point still stands until otherwise refuted... Nothing's natural if you're shaping it for riding.

 I think he means Natural terrain simply on his personal side. As in he himself has done them to airbag and foam, but never to actual dirt? Maybe, idk.

 I think Teva marketers (not just Paul B) knew perfectly well what kind of response phrases like "first MTB athlete to land a double backflip" or "natural terrain" will generate. Even bad publicity makes for good advertisement That said I also think this Woodward-grade take-off is pretty artificial, it's just set into a nice Utah backdrop (or wherever it is he's riding).

BS aside - he's got some balls to even jump that stuff. Flipping it twice makes it other-worldly. Restecp!

 ^ So. east/so. Utah, yeah... and I think you're on point with saying it's Teva behind all it just trying to snag views. Teva is heavily featured and shown in the video after all. But that jump looks like so much fun!

 @togood2die.

It depends on how your are parameterising "we". If it means the majority of riders - your point stands. However if it includes the very best riders, I've seen the big mountain guys ride an incredible amount of natural lines - basically just carving down the side of mountains!

Some DH trails are made naturally, by marking out a track and riding them in. Admittedly, some man made features, such as jumps/berms are usually added to trails "built" like this - but arguably 90% of the trail is natural.

Gee Atherton and Bearclaw demonstrated how some subtle building can be used to enhance natural terrain in the 2010 Red Bull Rampage. If I remember correctly there was some minor work* to a couple of take-offs and landings to make them rideable combined with a huge amount of natural line choice.

*obviously excluding the massive dirt quarter Gee used at the bottom of his run...

 Despite the ramp. runway and landing looks pretty much natural to me.

 @ Benlow : I think Greg Watts was the first to land the 2flips on a MTB at the 26 Trix (Austria) 2006 or 2007 !

 Greg Watts, then Alex Pro, then Andreu!

 God, those crashes on the double backflip attempts... I would certainly f**k myself, and totally get hurt! He just picks up the bike and goes to another try. Is he even human? o.o

Btw, Props, Paul...

 I wonder what series of climatic and geological events cause such formations ?

Still it was a very sick jump and X2 flip , but about as natural as M,Jackson..

 Paul Bas - Thumbs up! That was rad. Teva - Thumbs down for tainting an amazing accomplishment with marketing BS.

 wow haters gonna hate. come on, he explains pretty clearly what he means by natural terrain in the beginning of the video. Just watch it again and listen to what he says.

 Whats with the hype? The landing on that thing is softer than a Red Bull Joyride landing which AL landed doubles on years ago. This is a lame claim! What? We're going to start claiming everything as a first? Put a ramp up there and we'll see the first double on a synthetic and natural feature! First double backflip after eating a cheese burger. A double backy is a double backy and I feel sorry for P Bas because I would not want to be claiming something like this like it's a huge first.

 Damn! Him and the bike took quite a beating...

 ebahn, I totally agree. Respect for the double backflip!! But there isn't big difference to what has already been done... I don't see this as hating (you are f*cking haters), I am just being realistic. Face it Otherwise nice video

 its just big moutain with some dirt jumps at the end but still a sick trick

 I think natural as in down a mountain, yet i do not know everyone who have done double backflips. But that is what i think.

 There's no 'natural' in the claim anyway - Video title is clearly 'Paul Bas to land first MTB Double Backflip' - Which is major bs.

Other than that - Its sick, yo!

 @scott-townes its not utah, it's in arizona.

 seeing as most double flips are done on big polished dirt jumps or a big step up a think what they really meant was first free ride double flip. Free ride fits more because its out in the Arizona desert a free ride location, and he does the double flip on a step down while riding a full suspension.

 @Bunkey, 'natural' is right in the title..?

 'Natural' is in the pinkbike article title - the actual video posted by Teva is titled differently.

 Bunkey, believe it or not we're all on pinkbike right now so that's what were reading, and either way someone is claiming "natural". Actually, if you watch the video, Bas says it himself.

 First "big mountain double flip" would be more appropriate?

 Am I mistaken or wasn't Paul B in the group of Kona Clump riders congratulating Andrea Lacondeguy on his double flip on that dirt jump? If you guys don't see any difference between dirt jumping and big mountain thats your own personal problem with what have become the colloquial definitions of natural terrain in the sport. First guy to 720 a 26 (on film and in competition), first guy to double whip a 26 (in competition), only person to have back to back wins at Crankworx and first guy to double flip on natural terrain. Lets hope Paul B stays injury free this year and gets some better results in comps.

 ^ chopper, you don't need to run through a guy's resume that we all know about already, haha. It's just weird trying to define what makes a jump natural, although it's built up, just to get a "record" especially from someone who's very legit already. I still say it's Teva's doing to garner attention.

 @togood2die

"Reductio ad absurdum" is not Latin. It's jibberish that sounds like Latin. But you "took Latin for 4 years" so of course you knew that.

 notu, it is latin for reduction to the absurd - the logical fallacy of reducing someone's argument to ridiculous proportions and then criticising the result. Not jibberish at all.

 haahahha!

 Tit-ties.... That's fun to say.

 And there ain't nothin wrong with that.

 But you love them both just the same

 If you can touch them,they are not fake, what we are talking about is stock, vs modified.

 ^ As in engineered to perfection (by nature) vs. FUBAR'd by "tuners" (plastic surgeons)...

 WELL SAID YESOK!

 Come to BC. We have organic beer.

 Its probably not the first time anyone has double flipped a natural terrain jump but i think its the first time anyone has ridden a gnarly line into a jump and doubt flipped it.

 maybe but it doesnt change the fact that this is marketing PR bollocks from TEVA....

 Double backflip? Where? OH, over by the Red Bull flag and Teva billboard!! lol

 hahaha 'couch pros' - classic

 I would say marketing experts, really though the public can differentiate between real and over egged....

 its a double i think

 1) That lip wasn't created by using "a little tweaking". It isn't only sculpted, but dirt was piled, packed, and then supported with rocks. Despite the extremities of the run in that jump is no more natural than a dirt jump you'd find at the Post Office jumps or Whistler.

2) I've yet to see a single person bash Paul for hitting this jump. In fact there are alot of people giving him props for not only sticking the trick, but trying again and again after taking repeated hard hits.

3)What people are disputing is whether or not "Paul Bass made history". And since the double backflip has long since never been a first, his claim rest solely upon whether or not his feat can be defined as "natural". Unfortunately as it is painfully obvious that this jump was in fact built. Which in and of itself demeans every other athlete who has performed a double backflip off of a scultped jump, by saying that his was the first.

In short.. His jump is no more natural or unnatural than any sculpted dirt jump, and He is not the first to perform a double back flip off a double dirt jump. Have him pull that off of a drop or over an unsculpted ridge and ya.. he's got it. Good for him. But the only thing here demeaning is the clearly false claim that has been made.

 that^^^^

 Bring the trick to Red Bull Rampage!

 Cam Zink eat your heart out!

 What? So a double flip is harder than a triple?? You guys are tripping. I ride MTB but I still think the triple on a BMX is crazier. For one a BMX has 20 inch wheels and zero suspension. I would also rather slam onto dirt than a wooden landing! Don't get me wrong- this is sick- but why knock the triple flip?

I don't see how that's natural.... the kicker was obviously built in that position etc. This is just a TEVA advert.

 All I'm saying is that in my opinion, it takes more balls to throw down something like a double on dirt with a run in like that, than it does to do a triple on a smooth ramp. I'm not knocking the triple at all. But then I forgot, this is the internet which means I can't have an opinion...

 I would agree, but this jump wasnt really what I was expecting for "natural". The take off, run in, and landing were all obviously shaped by shovels. If it was a truly natural jump, a double flip would be more impressive than a triple.

 I see what you're saying man. Bringing tricks to big mountain are always going to be more tech and sketchy. However, this ramp had a pretty soft well-groomed transition. He ate shit 3 or 4 times before he landed it. If Jed Mildon landed the way Paul landed on his face...he probably would've broken his neck on the wooden ramp. Therefore, in my opinion, the triple flip is more risky with less room for error. With both of our opinions aside though, we can both agree that its another step forward for mountain biking and congrats to Paul Bas (because he is a legend).

 I can agree with that mate

 Land it in a Big event such as Red Bull Rampage with a solid line, that's a podium finish for sure.

 On mega ramps, the speed is easier to guage, if not just roll in. So, i disagree.

 @takeiteasyridehard: The roll in for Bas was simple enough- once he's hit it a couple of times he'd know exactly where to start to get the right speed. It's not like he was getting towed in or having to pedal like a madman to generate speed.

I'm still failing to understand how a double flip can be better than a triple- ok so it's on dirt rather than wood- but last time I checked Jed Mildon did a double flip and then flipped again afterwards- surely that means it's crazier? Bas is sick- don't get me wrong- but this is a load of hype over something we've all seen before, however impressive.

 Haha, the run-in into that jump was hardly exposed or a ridge...

 Andreu Lacondeguy Double flipped a fully at Crankworx. Earlier version of the same bike. I think he ran single speed too. The new Entourage has similar short stays and weight. Would love to see him flip one of those at Rampage with any gears that could take it.

 you seem to be pretty intellengent, so i ain't hatin

 That kid should get a camera, post on youtube and get some free shoes and energy drinks.

 yeah but a really fucking shit way to play that riff haha.

 yeah, the free version.

 Well done....

 haha not even close!! first off thats a perfect dirt roll in that he peddled straight into the small dirt jump, he's also on a hardtail, and Bass did it on a full suspension bike, which is way harder!!

 yea ur right they build moutain!

 on dirt...

 andrew is a rockstar on mtb, but bass is more humble !

 oh stop it you.Bass did it with full suspenison bike

 So has andreu, andreu did it on a bass aswell

 with a perfect dirt roll in, and a jump that was built with a machine...and he was on a hard tail..not even close buddy!

 maybe the jump isn't natural, but the landing it is, so it counts for me like 50% natural, wich is enough said (talking on paul bas double flip. not on crazy lacondeguy)

 Not in the mountains though

 moutain is natural...?

 Yes the mountain is natural. But the perfectly sculpted lip isn't.

 it's a single backflip

 On natural terrain?