Random Products Part Seven - The Last Hurrah of Interbike 2012

Sep 27, 2012 at 12:30
Sep 27, 2012
by Tyler Maine  
 
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Enjoy the grand finale of Pinkbike's 2012 Interbike fireworks show. After the smoke clears, look for a list of links at the end of this feature to every Interbike piece we posted over the torrid week of non-stop coverage. The takeaway message at Las Vegas was less about carbon, crazy inventions and wild marketing claims as it was about genuine improvements. Colors are brighter and happier across the board, which is a big change from the matte black and fungus colorways that have long been the staple for gravity and all mountain. Lots of technical flat-pedal footwear and good-looking freestyle helmets indicate that mainstream players are taking PB's core riders seriously. And finally, the lack of hype about 29ers at both Eurobike and Interbike signals that the big wheel is permanently linked into the framework of the sport.

This means that we will be more inclined to ignore wheel sizes when we judge a bike's performance or its application. So, what about 650b? If widespread acceptance in both Europe and by the core of North America's most influential brands isn't enough to convince naysayers, the fact that every tire and wheel maker has dedicated one third of its premium range to the mid-size wheel format clearly indicates that 650b is on track to replace the 26-inch-wheel dual-suspension bike for the 125 to 160-millimeter-travel market in the near future. Don't throw away your trusty 26er though, because democratic elections to determine the winning wheel size for the long-travel trailbike will not be scheduled until Trek and Specialized wake up and smell the coffee. In the meantime, we invite you to enjoy the last booms and showering sparks of Pinkbike's 2012 Interbike coverage. Pinkbike enjoyed the show - we certainly hope you did. - RC



Win an Intense Uzzi

Intense Cancer bike

This Intense F*CK Cancer bike - a pink Uzzi - will soon be raffled off to raise money and awareness to assist young women who are fighting breast cancer. Shimano, Fox, Loaded, HT, ODI and Intense teamed up to trick out the Pink shredder and the raffle will be posted on the all-new-and-not-quite-completely-finished Intense website the week following Interbike.

How it works: For every $5 donated, you will earn one chance to win this bike. So if you donate $25 that is five chances. The winner will be selected from a magical spreadsheet using random.org. and will then be notified by e-mail.

Your contribution will:
• Fund support and education programs for young women affected by breast cancer.
• Help support YSC’s mission to ensure no young woman faces breast cancer alone.
• Raise awareness that young women can and do get breast cancer.
Visit F**K Cancer
Intense




Dekerf Team SST 29er

Dekerf is one of the iconic Canadian handmade brands. Their frames are truly works of art, although that cliche falls well short of seeing and touching one in real life. The Dekerf Team SST 29R, with its fillet-brazed frame, custom integrated bar and stem combo, and the signature Dekerf "Tuning Fork' could make the most calloused dual-suspension rider want a custom-made rigid bike. Dekerf prepared this SST with a Vegas Poker paint scheme to celebrate the moment.

Dekerf Cycles



Smith Optics


Smith Optic team riders Aaron Gwin and Brandon Semenuk had a long line of folks waiting for their autographs. True professionals, makin' time for their fans.
Smith Optics



NiteRider

The NiteRider Lumina series got lighter and brighter for this night riding season. This cordless system has three models, with the 650 being the top tier model. Their new lightweight body, along with better thermal properties guarantee a brighter, longer lasting LED.


NiteRider Lumina 650 details: (pictured above top left corner)
• Run Times - 1.5 HRS at 650 lumens, 3 HRS at 400 lumens, 5.5 HRS at 200 lumens and 18HRS at 40 lumens (Walking setting)
• Charge Time - 5.5 HRS
• Weight: 172g
• One piece modular design
• Newly designed quick release bar mount to ensure a secure hold to your bars.
• Four light levels plus flash mode
• Helmet mount (650 model only), and bar mount
• USB rechargeable
NiteRider



DSP Racing

Details are a little sketchy on this made-in-Taiwan dropper post. DSP Racing said that the Bighorn dropper post was nitrogen charged, but the instructions call for 100 to 120 psi charged by a good old shock pump, which makes the Bighorn's pneumatic return spring charged with about 78-percent nitrogen. The circular seat rail clamp looks like a knock-off of some popular posts, but DSP says that clamping and angular functions are separated in the head to provide individual adjustment of each function and more secure clamping. The hydraulic locking mechanism appears to be a closed loop, and if this is true, then manually raising the post won't suck air into the fluid (A-la Crankbrothers Joplin) and create an unwanted suspension post. The actuating valve has an adjustable needle that users can control the post's return rate and drop sensitivity with. Both remote and under-the-saddle actuation are offered and there was no talk of an internal cable routing feature. A pair of brass keyways keep the Bighorn sliding smoothly with a minimum of side play. If the DSP Bighorn performs to at least 78-percent of its claims, it should be competive. Travel is 114 millimeters and the website lists diameters at 27.2, 30.9 and 31.6-millimeters.


Bighorn Dropper post details:
• Nitrogen filled (maybe)
• Two-way hydraulic locking
• Wobble free thanks to two brass keys
• Lever sensitivity adjustment
• $230 USD for Lever, $250 USD with Remote
• 30.9 and 31.6 diameters (Working on a 27.2 option)
DSP Racing



Brian Berthold's Latest Invention

Brian Berthold is a blues-singing Indiana wildman who has been designing and building suspension systems for nearly every kind of racing that occurs on wheels and costs a lot of money. His most recent baby was the Kona Magic Link - a dual-rate all-mountain shredder that pedals like a four-inch bike and decends with a full six inches of rear-wheel travel. The 'Patronis' suspension is Bethold's new invention and it uses a similar linkage, but with a single spring. Chain tension locks a pair of vertical links just in front of the seat tube and restricts the rocker link from driving the shock. Braking, or bump action instantly retracts the swingarm, which releases the 156-millimeter rear suspension to freely suck up the terrain. Ummm, aaaah, um, well, um, that's how we understand it.

Prototype 156mm Patronis Prototype from Brian Berthold - this is the evolution of the Magic Link.
Prototype 156mm Patronis Prototype from Brian Berthold - this is the evolution of the Magic Link.

The prototype 156mm Patronis from Brian Berthold: Note how the swingarm pivots on the lower of the two vertical links in front of the seat tube. Chain tension from pedaling keeps the vertical links straight. Bump action swings the links forward, which frees the suspension. The frame looks a bit sliced and diced, but all true prototypes and test mules look like living experiments. Brian is a sharp designer - we wonder where this design will pop up.
Ask Brian about Patronis



Swagman Jackknife Rack

Watch this riveting edit about Swagman's innovative new bike rack

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Swagman



Gemini Lights

Gemini lighting systems - BC action video

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Gemini Lights



Man Behind the Lens

Reuben Krabbe won the Deep Summer Photo Challenge at Crankworx, Whistler and was here at Interbike to show off his portfolio to potential clients.

See more of Deep Summer
Reuben Krabbe portfolio




Famous Bike

Atomlab Corsair Konig 7.8

The Corsair Konig 7.8 is the bike that Zink used to 360 the Oakley sender at the Rampage two years ago. Enough said.

Corsair



Turner Burner 650b

Dave Turner has been tweaking and tuning the geometry of his 650b designs for almost two years. Turner was a first adopter of rear suspension and is known for being driven by small details - especially in the handling department. The Burner has been Turner's go-to trailbike since the brand was founded, so we expect that it will deliver the full advantages of the mid-size wheel format - speed, efficiency and excitement. The Burner uses dw-link suspension and sits in the sweet spot of the trailbike range with 140 millimeters of suspension on both ends and room for 2.4-inch knobbys. The frame and shock price is reported to be $2400 USD.

Turner had this 650B Burner on display.

Turner redesigned its original 'Burner' dual-suspension trailbike with dw-link suspension and 650b wheels. Few suspension bikes can claim a longer and more storied history. We will be riding one soon. Keep an eye out for a test this Winter.

Turner Bikes



Liteville 601

Syntace purchased Liteville because the two German manufacturers think alike. Liteville is uber progressive and almost as nerdy as Syntace when it comes to its dedication to pure performance and uncompromising design elements. The Liteville 601 is its long-travel AM/Enduro racer that features 160 to 190 millimeters of rear-wheel travel and a quick-adjust forward shock mount that accepts almost all DH/AM shock lengths. Liteville's straight tubes are a nod to the fact that curved pipes, however sexy, must be heavier to carry the same loads as straight ones. The 601 is sold in six sizes, and each size varies in its construction and geometry so that all riders feel the same farf*gnugen on the trail. Rear axles are Syntace X-12 (142/12-millimeter compatible) and ISCG-05 chainguide mounts are standard. North American pricing is not yet set, but 2233 Euros buys a 601 frame, bare or black anodized, a Fox DHX Air shock and an Syntace X-12 axle and breakaway derailler hanger system.


LIteville 601 frame
Liteville 601 details

Liteville's 601 is equipped with Syntace's X-12 through-axle (left). The serrations on the forward shock mount allow one-bolt adjustment for different length shocks. Welded tubes route full housings and hoses through the frame where necessary. Syntace makes the sealed seat tube clamp for the 601.


Germany is rainy and glum most of the year, so the designers welded tubular guides in the frame to allow full housing and hoses to be threaded internally through the bike to keep them operating crud free. Even the seatpost clamp has a seal on it to that end. Each tube is butted to accept the stress at that station of the frame - even the chainstays and seat stays vary from left to right. Nerdy? Definitely, but that is the beauty of German engineering. If liteville says that the 601 can climb like a goat and descend like a DH bike, they probably have raced goats uphill in timed testing and secretly entered the 601 in DH events across Europe. Presently, PB is testing a 140/160-millimeter Liteville 301 and it is putting in an impressive performance. Can't wait to ride the big version.
Liteville



Dakine

Dakine booth

Dakine has an extensive lineup of hydration packs, riding gear and accessories. If you ever wondered where Mike Levy got those famous blue baggies, well you can blame it on Dakine. That Mikey has been wearing the same pants for nearly five years speaks well for Dakine's quality - and is good reason that their gear is one of our office favorites at PB.

Dakine



Chuck Norris Approved: The Two Best Bikes at Interbike

Greg Minnaar and Aaron Gwin s bikes at the SAINT display.

One of the rare times you'll see Minnaar and Gwin's bikes in the same display. Greg's V10 still had dirt on it from Leogang. Aaron's Session was his new ride from Norway - check out the traaaaavel on that Fox 40 proto!




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Pinkbike Links to Interbike 2012

Outdoor Demo Photos Day One
Pivot Takes a Step Back in Time - Pivotles carbon hardtail 29er
Steve Smith's Devinci Wilson Carbon
Random Products Part One
Outdoor Demo Photos Day Two
Diamondback Mason FS
Random Products Part Two
Yeti's Chris Conroy Talks About SB 66 Switch Suspension
Random Products Part Three
Day One Photos
Inside SRAM's 11-speed rear hub and XD Driver
Random Products Part Four
Video: Steve Smith - Blow by Blow Account of His First World Cup Victory
Day Two Photos
Random Products Part Five
X-Fusion Hilo SL
Day Three Photos
Fox Head
RC's Random Walk Through Interbike
Where the Trail Ends - Las Vegas Premiere
Video: Mike Montgomery
Random Products Part Six
Video: Where the Trail Ends - Las Vegas Premiere
Sombrio
Random Products Part Seven - The Last Hurrah of Interbike


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88 Comments

  • + 46
 Holy Sh*t Gwins bike is sexy! Wink
  • + 23
 That Uzzi isn't bad either!
  • + 12
 The uzzi is definatley the best bike there
  • + 2
 not the best but the nicest no doubt
  • - 2
 Yeah the Uzzi is dope!

Unfortunately, I love Intense but I found out their frames crack often Frown sad day..
I thought with all their over-sized tubing, gussets, double joints, etc they would last a little longer. But they still ride amazing and look sexy no matter what Wink
  • + 24
 This is really lacking in Brett Tippie..
  • + 5
 FUCK CANCER!!!!!!!!!!
  • + 7
 that 40 looks like a monster t!!!!
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 ignore, sorry
  • + 4
 Get neg propped = know you're saying truth but ppl going to hate anyways, cause it's not what ppl want to hear.

FRO = marketing excuse to build frames that are going to be less durable.
Don't believe me? Look it up. Google has it all.
  • + 1
 How do you get one of the f*ck cancer stickers? Had an uncle that died of cancer 2 years ago and I would love to have one of these things on my glory. Do you just donate and get one in the mail?
  • + 1
 ^ Sorry to hear that, I've had close ppl die of cancer as well. If you are still looking, just google "f*ck Cancer Sticker/Decals" and you'll find many options as well (alternative to donation).

Also, about FRO/Intense, I've been researching more and more, and I've completely stopped looking at them as a next bike. I want to point out on more disturbing thing about their frames + warranties. It's quoted on their site/owner's manual!!

"+ The warranty will not cover normal wear and tear, normal maintenance items, damage, --> FAILURE --, accidents, crashing, abuse, mis-use, neglect, or any damage caused by bicycle components.
+ Intense frames are NOT intended for use in STUNT RIDING, RAMP JUMPING, HUCKING OR ANY OTHER SIMILAR ACTIVITY."

So they are literally saying, even with an M9 you can't go do a jump, do a whip in mid-air since it's a "stunt", do 4-6 foot drops? Isn't that what DH is? Although Intense may stand by their bikes for many customers, the fact that it has to be done 2-3 times with 2 years is sad and surely unreasonable, on top of a very odd/contradictory warranty claim.... Not very assuring when Intense could simply say, NOPE.
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 "...the fact that every tire and wheel maker has dedicated one third of its premium range to the mid-size wheel format clearly indicates that 650b is on track to replace the 26-inch-wheel dual-suspension bike for the 125 to 160-millimeter-travel market in the near future."

More big wheel propaganda being spouted as fact! It doesnt indicate that the 26in wheel is going away it just indicates that these companies are going for the money grab and accommodating the new wheel size. I think dropping their 26 inch wheel offerings would "clearly indicate" that the 26 inch wheel is being replaced...
  • + 2
 Said so in some posts before and got shafted...a lot!! Smile
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 Funny,stand out product for me riding in the mud all the time and washing the bike all the time is the sealed clamp,simple genius.
  • + 1
 Ditto!! I want one Big Grin
  • + 1
 Noticed they've actually been out a while,if you can find one in stock they're £30-40!!!
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  • + 9
 It looks like a normal travel 40. It just looks the top and bottom crown are attached at the highest possible spots.
  • + 3
 Yeah Gwin's bike had the stanchion tubes as tall as they would go with a standard height stem, while Minnaar lowered his stanchion tubes 20mm and used a 20mm spacer under his direct mount stem to raise the bars. Up close, Gwin's fork looked like it had a longer fork - made me suspect that it actually did have more travel. RC
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  • + 8
 that corsair frame is sick..id buy one in a heartbeat Pimp
  • - 12
 you mean the corsair tr450?
  • + 1
 if that was sarcasm towards it looking like the transition tr450 then look again...the only thing thats the same is the chainstay/rear end (except for the dropouts)
  • + 1
 anyone know if corsair is still in buisness? i have a 2010 konig that i love but needs some replacement parts and i cant seem to get in touch with them :/
  • + 1
 they still have a website with a replacement parts category

www.corsairbikes.com/storereplacement.html

hope that helps
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  • + 7
 Liking the look of that Liteville...
  • + 5
 The Liteville 601 is pimp
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  • + 3
 Brian Bertholds design looks good. I liked the Kona Magic Link accept for the chain growth, this new one looks like it resolves that somewhat. Would like to see it pushed through it's travel to see what effect the bottom link has..
  • + 1
 That's an amazing design if it works on the trail. Berthold is a genius.
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  • + 7
 Gwins saddle looks potentially lethal in that position.
  • + 2
 When the bike is pointed downhill it is level, and when going super steep the nose is slightly downward. I can't ride that way, but it does make since when you look at it with physics and angles in mind.
  • + 2
 I did realise that. Bear in mind the fact that in downhill you only really tend to sit down on long, fairly level sections anyway, the seat is more for grip and security between your legs, just compare the angle to Minaar's. But I guess its whatever floats Gwins boat.
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  • + 2
 ...resist....don't be a pedant....will only be proved wrong and look stupid on the internet...
...but isn't the "konig 7.8" actually the "corona"? or whatever the name of the single pivot non-pablo version of zink's "dominion" is.
not being picky about names, it just that surely we should credit pablo/zink's unit-pivot bearing dominion with the awesome 360... not the later copy...
  • + 1
 I thought the Dominion was going to be released as the Hyper something later on? Even though this is not the same bike, I still like it. I'm planning to get some stickers made up for my old Konig that mimic the new ones. Pablo says the old linkage is designed to make cocked landings not f*ck the frame, but really it still only pivots off one point, the rear bearing of the top link. I like this new design, I feel my Konig is too short for me (should have tested one before you bought it idiot!) and the 5" travel on the back would be better for me if it was 7".

Even though they have changed the design, I bet the factory is the same one. I'll give it a look when it comes out. Who knows, the tech doesn't look great so the price should be pretty low compared to some other bikes with actual hydroformed tubes, actual carbon, and actual detailed paint jobs.

Don't like the slide drops though. I think a chip system is more robist (but these will be quicker to change configuration - if anyone ever does that more than once).

I'm glad they stuck with the shock jacks to allow different lengths of shock but maintain clean looks. I wish there were more full on DH bikes with a similar system. I mean, I absolutely love the Devinci Wilson, but I don't want a bike with that much travel, and I don't like the shorter travel designs or geo. Mini DH is the way forward, and that is possible with this bike.
  • + 2
 On second look: not hydroformed round tubing, single pivot, no pinch bolts on the head tube, probably no headset included, no holes drilled in the shock tunnel, single colour paint, supplied with no shock they originally said?

It's low tech, and I guess they are going to sell them w/o shock.

It's got to be cheap hey?

My guess is $1000-$1200 American.
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  • + 4
 Why buy that swagman rack when a Northshore is the real Swag? I say keep all the plastic straps and moving parts for a swingset.
  • + 1
 hahahaha. agreed. northshore racks are my favourite racks- besides well made homemade tailgate racks.
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  • + 3
 I like those racks, but I couldn't imagine the amount of crap you'd get for driving around with a rack that has SWAGMAN slapped on it.
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  • + 1
 @jaame, HYPER is a Company of its own, which comes from the BMX sector and is trying to enter the gravity market! The Bike Cam is riding at the Moment looks a lot like the corsair konig, but he doesn't ride for them anymore!!
  • + 2
 I read on Pinkbike that Hyper bought Pablo's designs, such as the four bar "unit" linkage as used on the original Konig and Dominion. The bike Cam Zink was riding at the two crankworxes this year was a repainted Konig I'm pretty sure.

This new Corsair is owned by Atomlab I think, but not designed by Pablo and not really bearing more than a passing resemblance to the original Corsair Konig.

Therefore new Hyper = old Corsair, soon to be new.
New Corsair = to all intents and purposes, a new company.
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  • + 2
 How do you get that dirty bike through customs? They want to steam clean the single grain of sand on the bottom of my sneaker every time I come though!!
  • + 0
 I was going to write the same thing. It's fake dirt. Not fake, but re-done in America.
At the Taipei show this year they had "Danny Hart's" Glory on the Giant stand, but it wasn't. Different tyres, and blatant brush strokes in the mud they had obviously painted on for the show.

Having said that, few countries I've been to have been so touchy about dirt imports as Aussie, and even worse, NZ. They even make you wash kayaks if you go from one river to another in the same country FFS!
  • + 1
 Of course they do dumb ass biosecurity is a real issue. The reason they make you wash fishing gear and kayaks is to stop the spread of didymo algae - rock snot which chokes waterways= dead fish!!!
  • + 0
 Nice one dumb ass.
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  • + 2
 that liteville looks sick! and I think that straight tubes look better anyway :p
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 any idea how much travel the 40 proto has? im assuming its more because they made a comment about it, but i cant tell from the picture
  • + 1
 gotta be 203, theyd be idiots to swap it out now IMO, anymore would require a new frame
  • + 1
 judging by how big the lowers are I'm guessing the same size, or magic, you never really know with Gwin.
  • + 1
 any idea why they made the "look at the traaaavel" comment then?
  • + 1
 scroll above for RC's reply to sireatshitalot (epic username)
  • + 1
 or scrolled down for mike levy's comment to... gives you a way more defininite answer
  • + 1
 thanks man. I guess that rakes the head angle a little more for Gwinn
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  • + 2
 That Dakine gear looks sick!
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  • + 1
 That new link design is awesome. It's about time that someone actually invented something new!
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  • + 1
 Happy to see the PINKBIKE raffle for charity coming back on PINKBIKE, for a great cause!
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 Semenuks signed poster 'to pinkbike, the internet wizards!' hahaha
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  • + 2
 it gotta be 8 inch but pulled out to the max...
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 anyone notice the angle gwins seat is at holy shit
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 MuleMad: Thats what makes Gwin sooo fast, LOL!
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  • + 1
 I thought Zink used an Evil Revolt to 3 the drop? Am I wrong??
  • + 2
 You're wrong Smile
  • + 1
 looks like a sweet ride..i love how adjustable everything is and the fact that it supports a 4"- 8" suspension setup makes it an amazing all around bike.
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 650B Burner looks cool. Would be a great test of 27.5" wheels.
  • + 1
 There are times I hate when Kirk Pacenti described the tires as about 27.5 inches in diameter (referring to his NeoMoto 2.3 width, the ONLY proper off-road tire then available) and now that's what everyone thinks they are, all the time, regardless of width. Actual 2.4" width knobbies, of which none are actually at dealer level yet, will be closer to 28ers.
  • + 1
 It's now a known term to describe a wheel size. It doesn't matter too much how inaccurate it is as most other sizes are inaccurate to. We all know what we're talking about when we say "27.5". I think it's mre important people understand it's not mid way between 26 and 29, but closer to 26".
But yes I can agree with your point, but accept that a lot of things are wrong in bike terminology.
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  • + 1
 ^at least 10, that would be awesome to see some gains like that!
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 The travel on Gwin's.... good lord!
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  • + 1
 How huge are those proto's? looks like 12"
  • + 4
 it's simply dropped in the crowns so it looks longer.
  • + 1
 Maybe the lowers are lower/shorter too. Doubt there's more travel, daft if there is, would make some fresh marketing for them I guess. Greed, the poison of many great things bicycle. I'd say Fox has stuck with 8", they're pretty good at straight shooting.
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 Are the cranks on the Dekerf bent?
  • + 1
 Yes. XTR cranks dramatically curve toward the center of the bike to achieve a narrower Q-factor. It's a racing thing, I think.
  • + 1
 wouldnt that interfere with your foot?
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 does any body know how long the travel is for the new proto?
  • + 1
 looks like it'd be atleast 9"
  • + 1
 Well Fox had a 40 with 230mm of travel, this looks similar to that.
  • + 11
 My guess is that it hasn't changed... still 8", just that Gwin mounted the crowns up high on the stanchions for a more desired axle to crown height/head angle.
  • + 5
 time to bust yur old monster T out of the closet...
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 Maybe the lowers are lower/shorter too. Doubt there's more travel, daft if there is, would make some fresh marketing for them I guess. Greed, the poison of many great things bicycle. I'd say Fox has stuck with 8", they're pretty good at straight shooting.
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 Same travel as production 40, the stanchions are just slid down in the crowns.
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 motocross forks on gwins trek wholy balls
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 Gemini Lights presented by Asians, so you know its good.
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  • + 2
 what about peaty's bike?
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  • + 1
 The two sexiest bikes in the world right there!
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