Tech Tuesday - Replace Plastic Zip-Ties With Safety Wire

Oct 30, 2012 at 0:03
Oct 30, 2012
by Richard Cunningham
 
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While I was assembling a Santa Cruz Tallboy test bike recently, I questioned why we still use plastic zip ties to hold the cables and housing in place on bikes? Not that Zip-ties are bad, but I am tired of seeing them sprouting from every corner of the bike. The idea came to me that I could replace the plastic ties on my bike with aircraft safety wire. Having worked on airplanes for a few decades, I had the tools and the talent, so that's what I did. The result was a bit retro, but it looked pretty sharp, so I continued on and also safety wired my Pivot 5.75. The advantages of safety wire are that one size fits all and that It comes in 25-foot rolls or one-pound cans, so you'll never run out of the stuff. Of course, there is always the factor of NOT owning a ubiquitous-looking bike - which counts for something.

What it looks like. Note that the ends of the pigtail loops are flush.

Safety wire replaced plastic tie-wraps on Pinkbike's iCD test bike. The short loops are used to conceal the sharp ends of the wire. It is worth noting that the cut-ends of plastic Zip-ties can also be dangerously sharp.



Safety wire is normally used to keep bolts and parts from falling off of important things like aircraft engines or racing car suspensions, and it is a required application in many forms of motor competition. The wire is very pliable, which makes it easy to use and also helps it to resist fatigue failure. The special pliers that are used to twist and manipulate the wire are not necessary, but are extremely helpful. A professional safety wire tool costs nearly $100 USD, but cheap Chinese safety wire pliers that retail for 12 to 28 dollars at tool outlets and online motorcycle stores will do fine for cycling applications. A small roll of wire runs about $1.25, with a one-pound roll costing around 25 bucks, so this Tech Tuesday is quite affordable.

.041 stainless steel wire Safety Glasses Safety Wire Pliers Needle Nose pliers.
What you'll need:
• .032 or .041-inch stainless-steel safety wire
• Safety-wire pliers
• Small needle-nose pliers
• Safety glasses

Words of caution
Cut wire can be sharp, so anytime you are working with it, you should treat the cut ends as if they were needles or knives. Clipping short strands of steel wire can send bits flying into your eyes or to unknown places where only your mom's new vacuum cleaner or your girlfriend's tender feet will find them. Work where you can easily find and dispose of the cast-off wires and bits, and use safety glasses at all times.



How To Safety Wire Cable Guides


Two fingers point at the sliding latch mech the piers are latched on the wire The twisting mech extended.

Step One: How safety wire pliers operate. A sliding latch (left) along the center of the pliers engages the handle to lock the jaws. Squeezing the handles together while sliding the latch towards the rear of the pliers latches them, (middle) and squeezing the handles again releases the spring-loaded mech. Pull the knob at the end of the tool and a twisted rod spins the pliers to wind up the wire.



Cut at least eight inches of wire to work with. Double loop the guide. Snug with two pliers.

Step Two: Cut about eight inches of wire to make looping it through the guide easier. Feed two loops of wire through the guide and around the housing. Use two pliers and work the loops so they are snug against the housing and tightly spaced. Avoid crossing the wires - it looks better that way.



Twisting the wire

Step Three: Pull the wires together and swing them towards the inside of the bike. Latch the jaws of the tool over both wires about 3/4 inch (20mm) away from the guide. Release the tool while pulling the shuttle knob to twist the wire (right). Repeat until the wires are snugly wrapped around the housing. Don't overdo it though, about ten twists per inch seems right.



Cutting making and straightening the pigtail

Step Four: Cut the twisted wire 3/4 to 5/8 inches (20 to 16mm) from the guide and, using the small needle-nose pliers, roll the twisted end into a nice looking 'pigtail' loop. Finally, ensure that the pigtail is lined up straight and that the sharp, cut-end of the loop is set flush against the wrapped wires.




Alternative Suggestions

Many frames have sets of two or three guides running parallel to each other, so you may want to group them together in one continuous length for a different effect. You can also use this technique to join hoses or housings at specific distances apart to route them cleanly in front of the handlebar, or where they pass to the rear suspension.

Double looping the guides

Double wrap the guide farthest from you and be sure to begin with enough wire. Next, pull the two wires tightly across to the next guide. Grasp the wires with the tool slightly farther away from the inside edge of the next guide to allow for twisting. Twist the wires until the first guide is snug and then double-wrap the second. Use pliers to snug up the loops towards the inside of the frame and then twist the second guide tight.



Finishe double wrap

Clip the wires and then finish the job with a well-tucked pigtail.



Other Safety Wire applications

Safety wire used to tuck the cable in place on an XTR rear derailleur, and to locate Fox's iCD mode indicator on the shift-cable housing.



Watch a how to use safety wire pliers video. (Ghetto alert!)



Tech Tuesday's safety wire suggestions were....



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286 Comments

  • + 301
flag Chamakazi (Oct 30, 2012 at 0:12)
 You're kidding me, right? Zip ties take 5 seconds to install, and the ends are only sharp if you cut them incorrectly. And safety wire doesn't come in pretty colours!
  • + 173
flag NittyGritty (Oct 30, 2012 at 0:43)
 Zip ties are basically the 2nd duck tape... No reason to replace them.
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flag Hulleland (Oct 30, 2012 at 1:06) (Below Threshold) show comment
 I do agree with you, but i must say this have a much better finish than with the ordenary zips
  • + 39
flag dcm6861 (Oct 30, 2012 at 1:12)
 How about when you need to replace the lines? Or it starts to rust... lol
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flag NittyGritty (Oct 30, 2012 at 1:49)
 It's stainless steal, it shouldn't rust... But I think the zip ties look just fine. If you cut the access off and turn the knob to the inside further from site it's barely noticeable. Not knocking the idea though as I have never seen it and it is quite unique. Just seems impractical.
  • + 44
flag freeride-forever (Oct 30, 2012 at 2:52)
 Black zips look cleaner & better than this crap. I don't need any goofy tools or a mountain of time to put them on either.
  • + 16
flag Borgschulze (Oct 30, 2012 at 3:26)
 Safety wire is for wiring bolt heads together... so that they don't vibrate loose. Not for holding trivial things on like brake lines to a cable guide. I'd hate to be the person to have to remove that crap.
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flag mr-man-guy (Oct 30, 2012 at 3:53)
 Zip ties are so much easier to put on, remove, and they look better. Anyway, we're all so used to using them that most people don't even notice they're there.

A bike without zip ties is an incomplete bike Razz
  • + 41
flag automaticLongman Plus (Oct 30, 2012 at 5:31)
 Umm, I couldn't understand the point of this article. I seem to have to learn English harder.
  • + 7
flag rhys-the-rider (Oct 30, 2012 at 5:41)
 zip ties look fine, i don't know what this article is about. plus they are my best friend out on the trail. i've bodged together my derailleur and my chain on the trail, made it home after a 30km ride. i never ride without them now.
  • + 6
flag Lehel-NS (Oct 30, 2012 at 5:54)
 Me neither. I always carry at least 20 zip ties in my backpack.
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flag santacruz-syndicate (Oct 30, 2012 at 7:38)
 Nowadays many bike companies make those handy little clips that holds your cables in place. Have em on 2 of my bikes and they work just fine, and look better than zip ties or uh, wire. I see the point of the article but i dont find any use for it...
  • + 11
flag Protour (Oct 30, 2012 at 8:18)
 Their was a time when wire was useful for mtb's; before lock-on grips. But even then I remember some guys experimented with zip-tying their grips on because the wire was a pain in the ass.

Wire is heavier, scratches paint, cuts hands, and makes you look like a nut with too much time on your hands.
  • + 4
flag p-romano (Oct 30, 2012 at 8:50)
 I have actually done this in the past because I didn't have a small enough zip tie and it actually ended up working better than a zip tie because it didn't wear through and break over time. I don't think it is a solution for all but I think in places where your zip ties constantly break it is a great solution.
  • + 5
flag madmon (Oct 30, 2012 at 9:02)
 try and carry that wire fixem package in yer backpack for a quick trail fix.............................................................not
  • + 15
flag fullbug (Oct 30, 2012 at 9:07)
 i'm just thinking how much riding i could get in if i don't do this
  • + 3
flag chris345 (Oct 30, 2012 at 10:11)
 why would you replace zipp ties? simple and efficient. why make more work?
  • + 3
flag levy666 (Oct 30, 2012 at 10:49)
 And the zip ties are lighter Smile lol
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flag Dildoman (Oct 30, 2012 at 10:55)
 It's like the most stupid idea ever , hard steel against soft alu , and of course the weight issue , annnd the penetrating issue.
  • + 3
flag madmon (Oct 30, 2012 at 12:30)
 RC...............................don't be drinkin the cool aid. Not Jah approved
  • + 4
flag conv3rt (Oct 30, 2012 at 12:45)
 Does the wire come in colours? If so it would add a cool accent to a colour themed project. Don't sweat the negativity RC. I appreciate your innovative posts.
  • + 1
flag dannythekiwi (Oct 30, 2012 at 16:49)
 its not even april fools today!! I couldn't be bothered doing this even if i was at work with all my tools on hand. zip ties rock!!
  • + 4
flag sancho-ramerez (Oct 30, 2012 at 17:19)
 Holy shat! Pinkbike ran out of tech for Tech Tuesdays.
  • + 1
flag Nyson098 (Oct 30, 2012 at 17:37)
 The whole point of Tech tuesdays is Many ways to Possibly improve youre bike, or give people more idea's I like this idea, but I will most likely not use it. I myself like to invent, create something that would make a bike better, but half of my idea's get lost...... well most of them, But sometimes a zip tie is great if you lose your bolt that holds your derailleur, (ignore the spelling) but with a wire, it would hold up longer. I have used a zip tie to do that before, works allright, but eventually fails.
  • + 2
flag bkbroiler (Oct 30, 2012 at 17:42)
 Zip Ties FTW!!!!
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flag goosh (Oct 30, 2012 at 19:31)
 Most comments about zip ties ever!!!
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flag A-Smalls (Oct 30, 2012 at 20:04)
 somebody tell me this is a joke
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flag Protour (Oct 30, 2012 at 22:09)
 Only bad thing about zip-ties is that they are not recyclable; nylon.
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flag rhys-the-rider (Oct 31, 2012 at 1:29)
 ^they are reusable though. depending on where you have used them.
  • + 2
flag cyberhawk Plus (Oct 31, 2012 at 3:27)
 really pinkbike.. really ?? Confused
  • + 1
flag chris345 (Oct 31, 2012 at 7:41)
 @A-smalls i hope so!
  • + 0
flag Spearman (Oct 31, 2012 at 20:37)
 I just use duck tape - for everything ;-)
  • + 2
flag Draggon (Nov 10, 2012 at 23:35)
 I see I'm late to the party and after reading this I kinda wish I never saw it. I echo the "really", using safety wire instead of zip-ties? Umm I'm sorry.....but no.
  • + 1
flag cyberhawk Plus (Nov 12, 2012 at 0:41)
 your never too late for this party.. and then again.. your like a wizzard,, you are never late nor early,.. your there when you need to be there,.
i find this a nice practical example of "devolution"... its everywhere,.. Blank Stare
  • + 1
flag Draggon (Nov 12, 2012 at 15:37)
 Hahaa, cool man. Yeah, this article.....was a serious WTF.
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  • + 134
flag MAGNA-EXCITOR (Oct 30, 2012 at 0:29)
 the answer to the question nobody asked
  • + 4
flag dhb7 (Oct 30, 2012 at 9:22)
 best comment on this thread!
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flag shrockie (Oct 30, 2012 at 9:31)
 rando factoid: The same safety wire technique is how they made those "Koosh balls", the toys with all the rubber strands that seemingly had no center... the wire would squeeze so tightly that the rubber would fold over onto itself, so you could not find the middle..

Perhaps that's still a better use for the wire, than to replace zip ties on bikes.. i'm okay with the zip ties, actually.. always good to toss around new ideas. Not all ideas are good ones, but it's important not to be too critical of them, that just puts a damper the development process.. another thing I learned in product development...

( I like your creative thinking and problem solving, Richard. Your idea for seating tubeless tires using another tire as the 'tank' was a pretty creative and workable inexpensive solution for those that don't have a compressor.)
  • - 3
flag jumpman2334 (Oct 30, 2012 at 16:20)
 DEAR PINK BIKE:

DONT FIX IT IF ITS NOT BROKE.
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  • + 97
flag Brugles (Oct 30, 2012 at 1:56)
 I think this article is fantastic, whilst I was replacing all the zipties with bits of wire I also took the time to reinstall some tapered cranks, swapped out the coil in my forks for an elastomer and installed some cantilever brakes instead of those troublesome hydraulic discs. Now if I can can just figure out how to convert carbon fiber into chromoly this thing will be fully pimped and trail ready....
  • + 3
flag rip8569 (Oct 30, 2012 at 5:47)
 this comment. ftw.
  • + 1
flag tworldsmine (Oct 30, 2012 at 11:05)
 do you mind putting some pics of your work up Brugles? please?
  • + 1
flag bkbroiler (Oct 30, 2012 at 17:43)
 Bahahahahaha!!!!
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  • + 60
flag SandersB (Oct 30, 2012 at 0:08)
 Zip ties = MTB'ers Best Friend
  • + 10
flag Ollie-J (Oct 30, 2012 at 0:56)
 I zip tied a seat on once, and it worked just fine Wink
  • + 5
flag krashDH85 (Oct 30, 2012 at 7:15)
 ^Trials riders zip tie them right to the frame!
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  • + 47
flag JakeMness (Oct 30, 2012 at 0:10)
 Zip ties are no less aesthetically pleasing than safety wire... This article is pointless.
  • + 6
flag Bowen1911 (Oct 30, 2012 at 0:20)
 jake. you speak the truth.
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flag rlucky82 (Oct 30, 2012 at 0:55) (Below Threshold) show comment
 not exactly pointless, since I have the pliers from my motorcycle road racing days and still have about 3/4 of that 1lb can left and I frequently run out of zip ties when I could be using safety wire...
  • + 6
flag freeride-forever (Oct 30, 2012 at 2:54)
 Actually zips look better, they're easier & SS is better used for making sinks & faucets.
  • + 1
flag jumpman2334 (Oct 30, 2012 at 16:21)
 @rlucky. maybe you should buy zipties in a bigger pack. never have that problem. and oh the puuurrrttttyyyyy colors.
  • + 1
flag wolfe38 (Oct 30, 2012 at 20:01)
 dumb.
  • + 1
flag kubetata (Oct 31, 2012 at 1:45)
 plus - zip ties dont need no fancy pliers..
  • + 1
flag wolfe38 (Oct 31, 2012 at 13:08)
 and you can get cooler colors with zip ties
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  • + 33
flag mountguitars (Oct 30, 2012 at 0:27)
 what's happening to tech tuesdays? lamest tech tuesday ever.
  • + 6
flag Treehugger84 (Oct 30, 2012 at 7:47)
 Nevertheless, I was very excited to see that Tech Tuesday is back...RC, thanks for taking the time to show us something new.
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flag Protour (Oct 30, 2012 at 8:00)
 This is the classic instance of a bike geek over-thinking something for the sake of being creative, when all that is accomplished is turning something simple into a pain in the ass. I don't even think it looks that clean, it draws attention to the cable guides.

I have experimented with epoxying or Gorilla gluing cables to frames, and it does look extremely clean. Just clean away a small area of paint from the frame and put a small small dot of glue on it, zip-tie it, then take off the zip-tie when it's dry. I liked that it was clean looking and a little more aero(good for time trial bikes). I didn't like people asking me about it all the time -"What's holding your cables on Protour?"

Probably wouldn't recommend the Protour Technique for carbon frames, and it could even void your warranty, but it does at least look cleaner than zip-ties or RC's wired-up contraptions. I never had one come off, but they could, especially in a crash. If it does, just zip-tie it with one of the 20 zip-ties you carry while riding, then glue it back later.
  • + 19
flag RichardCunningham Mod Plus (Oct 30, 2012 at 9:30)
 HAHA! I knew I'd have to suffer some hate for even suggesting safety wire instead of Zip Ties, but I didn't think it would be raining nails on PB - again! RC
  • - 2
flag dirty907 (Oct 30, 2012 at 9:40)
 RC- I think its a good idea. Not saying I will use it, but I like the idea. Too bad everyone on here has to be so negative about it.
  • + 1
flag groghunter (Oct 30, 2012 at 9:49)
 For what it's worth: I dig it. It's different. Bikes are too much the same, and I'm not a fan of plastic in general. also, you could take a small brush (like nail polish) and add some paint to it, which i think would look pretty awesome, whether you color matched it or contrasted it.
  • + 2
flag zorba73 (Oct 30, 2012 at 10:05)
 Not a good idea, sorry RC. You might as well have suggested using spaghetti to tie your cables with for all the flack your getting. You could have included instructions for boiling the spaghetti for three minutes less for al dente to stretch the article out.
  • + 3
flag thewheelman (Oct 30, 2012 at 15:44)
 Can't win em all RC. At least you're a good sport about it. "Raining nails"...haha, think I might use that one from time to time. Looking forward to next Tuesday. Cheers.
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flag OrangeGoblin (Oct 30, 2012 at 2:00)
 This has made me realise that one of the best, simplest and cheapest ways to secure cables and lines on my bike, is..........Zip Ties.

Installation steps:
Buy Zip Ties. (~£1.50 for 100 approx. Pretty much any colour you like, dozens of sizes to suit task.)
Wrap one around the cable and through the cable guide making sure the tail faces in towards the frame.
Trim neatly with basic pliers or a scalpel.


Now, did that need an alternative, much less one that needs a specialist tool?

No.
  • + 1
flag thehustler (Oct 30, 2012 at 12:49)
 Installing a ziptie is probably faster than you typing the instructions! Smile

the 3 vote options above are pretty much "NO" hahaha
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flag james182 (Oct 30, 2012 at 0:17)
 After reading the 4 steps to install safety wire and a page long article with photographs, you convinced me, zip ties are a major inconvenience to my riding.
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flag fitbiker4130 (Oct 30, 2012 at 1:58)
 So its arts and crafts Tuesdays now?
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flag unfknblvbl (Oct 30, 2012 at 0:16)
 Seriously? A multiple page article on how to twist wire instead of using zip-ties?
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  • + 17
flag raph11 (Oct 30, 2012 at 0:40)
 April 1st ?
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flag crispycritter (Oct 30, 2012 at 1:46)
 Oh Jesus...this is a joke right? Please tell me that this is a pisstake...
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flag Stampers (Oct 30, 2012 at 4:16)
 worst tech tuesday ever!...whoever greenlighted this idea should have their johnson doubled over, zip tied, then forced to watch porn!
  • - 1
flag stokedcheech420 (Oct 30, 2012 at 9:03)
 damn man laughed really hard at that
  • + 11
flag tizner (Oct 30, 2012 at 9:56)
 no, they should have their johnson doubled over and then safety wired, it looks a lot cleaner than zip ties.
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flag louantonis (Oct 30, 2012 at 3:27)
 GREAT IDEA!!!!!!!!!! a zip tie needs just 3.4 sec to be installed, while safety wire almost 5.33 min, so let's everybody waste some time!!! a zip tie needs just 1.6 sec to be uninstalled, while safety wire almost 4.43 min and you will probably scratch your frame, so let's everybody waste some more time and make some more marks on our bikes!!!
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  • + 11
flag funnyjr (Oct 30, 2012 at 0:09)
 Zip ties are just fine in my opinion, just cut them flush and turn them so they are not protruding in a direction that is going to scrape your skin. Personally find this safety wiring twisting quite unnecessary.
  • + 1
flag andyndv (Oct 30, 2012 at 0:18)
 I use a cutter or any sharp blade to make them as flush as possible and double loop them so I don't have to use thick zips. Use only small, thin ones. They do the job just great.
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flag Lehel-NS (Oct 30, 2012 at 0:45)
 Just put the zip ties on so that the cut off side is facing down on the inside of the frame (like a number 6, if you are looking at the bike from the back), and turn them so that the cut off part is hidden behind the cable. Easier to do, looks cleaner than this wire thing, and you can get ties in any color you want.
  • + 0
flag Chamakazi (Oct 30, 2012 at 6:23)
 When you cut the ziptie, cut a little bit of the square end in the same bite. Makes it sit perfectly flush and neat.
  • + 11
flag Jose-David-DH (Oct 30, 2012 at 7:32)
 just cut the damn zip-ties with a nail clipper, it cuts them kinda curved so they won't have sharp edges
  • + 1
flag AlexZ68 (Oct 31, 2012 at 0:12)
 Ditto on the nail clippers, nail clippers give a rounded edge. If you really want to use baling wire, you can twist long lengths using a power drill.
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flag brit-100 (Oct 30, 2012 at 2:10)
 Rather than zip ties or idiotic wire, soemone should invent a little plastic C clip that fits into the cable guide. If it could fit both hoses and cables, that'd be even better. I reckon local bike shops everywhere could sell them for pennies/give them out if you need them.

Oh, wait a minute...
  • + 3
flag Treehugger84 (Oct 30, 2012 at 7:50)
 I've never had luck keeping those on my bike... I really like the ones that survive though!
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flag AlexZ68 (Oct 31, 2012 at 0:26)
 McMaster Carr has tons of custom fasteners.
You can get low profile cable ties for your frame, fastener mount ties for screwing a cable tie to a frame,
Open up the 'additional ties' menu on this page. www.mcmaster.com/#cable-ties/=jyfepr

link to stainless steel, nylon coated ties
www.mcmaster.com/#stainless-steel-ties/=jyfgec
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flag migkab (Oct 30, 2012 at 3:18)
 C'mon, are you running out of ideas for tech tuesday? Wire over paint? Jesus!!
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flag karaknic (Oct 30, 2012 at 3:21)
 Zip ties + nail clippers = perfectly finished job in 6 seconds ...
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flag neimbc (Oct 30, 2012 at 4:04)
 "Mike, why don't you put together a Tech Tuesday"
"Nah, ran out of ideas"
"How about you Richard? Must be something you can find in those old MBA articles"
  • + 3
flag Lehel-NS (Oct 30, 2012 at 6:00)
 from something like 1964
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flag TimBigHitFSRII (Oct 30, 2012 at 0:29)
 lock wire is for engines and racing cars, zip ties are not sharp at all if you cut them properly, wont scratch anything and dont need pliers to fit em on the trail, my 2 cents
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flag juanpkumicho (Oct 30, 2012 at 1:28)
 In fact, in racecars, all wiring (which can be considered very similar to a bike's brake lines and cables) is routed by zip ties also, even in F1. haha
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flag ski-or-die (Oct 30, 2012 at 6:04)
 RaceCARS no, but in order to bring a motorsmycle to a track, all fasteners must be safetied.
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flag TimBigHitFSRII (Oct 30, 2012 at 15:44)
 I didn't say wires, bolts are held with safety wire
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flag dodoshena (Oct 30, 2012 at 0:17)
 If you look from the bright side, still better than "how to replace a tube". But still Pinkbike, srsly?
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flag shacky (Oct 30, 2012 at 3:25)
 What a crock of shit
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flag RoverDover (Oct 30, 2012 at 3:05)
 Thomas and betts makes a sweet zip tie gun that tightens and cut them to length (without sharp edges) I make airplanes and my Landrover has safety wire all over it, I just couldnt be bothered on my bikes, since zipties have worked so well for years.
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flag RichardCunningham Mod Plus (Oct 30, 2012 at 9:23)
 Yeah, It's cool tool to use, with a torque setting for different strength ties - and the automatic cutter makes a perfectly rounded edge. A bit pricey though. Getitng slammed on this one, eh?
RC
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flag TTTT (Oct 30, 2012 at 11:21)
 Yep slammed on this one, you could always do a follow up article how to replace safety wire with a zip tie Smile
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flag cuban-b (Oct 30, 2012 at 13:58)
 ^ i think someone wrote one already - back in like '83
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flag RMWB (Oct 30, 2012 at 5:18)
 Working on helicopters, I would never use safety wire on anything where chafing would happen. Safety wire is used to lock bolt heads in place and keep fasteners from backing off. If I ever saw safety wire used like this on one of my aircraft I would flip shit. Same goes for my bike. The really high quality T&B tie-wraps I use still manage to wear through shift housing eventually. Why would you use something thats sharper that even improperly cut tie wraps and has the potential to cut right through brake lines. For shame Pinkbike, for shame.
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flag Antti69 (Oct 30, 2012 at 2:00)
 If you want to scratch your bikes frame and spent some extra time compare to zip ties, then go ahead.
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flag honourablegeorge (Oct 30, 2012 at 3:05)
 What a total waste of time - and I mean both the author for replacing his zip ties with wire, and me for reading this article.
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flag max14221 (Oct 30, 2012 at 2:15)
 It look's like they have run out of ideas for tech Tuesday lol
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flag minty1 Plus (Oct 30, 2012 at 3:26)
 What a turd of an idea,looks worse takes longer and was obviously thought up by a guy with way to much time on his hands. Terrible.
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flag xmarcellus (Oct 30, 2012 at 6:31)
 "How to complicate something ridiculously simple."
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flag minty1 Plus (Oct 30, 2012 at 3:33)
 And as for those answering 'interesting but not for me' are you f'in kidding?! Sort it out pink bike tech Tuesday used to be a highlight,what a crock.
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flag bogey (Oct 30, 2012 at 6:54)
 RC, this reminds me of your days of writing useless articles for Mountain Bike Fiction. Awful stuff even if it was April 1st! I know you're eccentric and this is the type of stuff that you like but an editor should have stopped this article from hitting the website.
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flag eivomedia (Oct 30, 2012 at 1:02)
 Aint nobody got time for safety wire.. leave that to the moto guys that spend more time fixing their bikes than riding..
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flag Cackerman Plus (Oct 30, 2012 at 7:36)
 When twisting the wire snug, it is pretty easy is it to gouge/indent/divot a plastic covered cable. A couple of the images above look like the wire has damaged the outer casing, and the inner support wires are showing (these tend to rust). It is very hard to over tighten small sized zip ties on the other hand, because the tie will snap if you pull too tight.

Snipping a metal wire for removal creates a sharp end. Pulling out the wire can be a bit tricky with it being curved. Very easy to drag the sharp end over a painted surface or slice into a cable/hose.

As has been mentioned above a zip tie can break away if you catch your cable/hose on a branch, reducing the chance of destroying that cable/hose.

And speaking as a guy that is borderline obsessive about the aesthetics of my bikes, a simple black zip tie is much less of an eye sore then a twisted cable (even if that cable twisting is done fancy).
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flag Gora (Oct 30, 2012 at 1:23)
 Waste of time, why we looking on this sh...t on pinkbike.
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flag Sidor666 (Oct 30, 2012 at 3:49)
 This poll should have one more oprion: "I Love Zip Ties and would never replace them!"
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flag vwcabrio82 (Oct 30, 2012 at 3:58)
 looks good RC however, i would be more inclined to replace a couple of zip ties after a shuttle weekend, rather than replacing housing and brake line due to the wire cutting through. i was always under the impression that zip ties were used, due to their weak nature.. that way the tie breaks from the frame preventing the cable from tearing in a less than desirable situation. Wink
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flag element22 (Oct 30, 2012 at 6:18)
 I am sorry Richard...But that is not a good idea for a bike...Besides the fact that the wire twister that you displayed is about $50.00 I would have to say that the lockwire will eat paint and any other soft materials...I used to work on airplanes and yes that was a great application of the wire for safety purposes..But what a pain it was when it came to removing or scraping your hands on the cut ends.
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flag largextracheese (Oct 30, 2012 at 10:51)
 Why not give some suggestions? Obviously R.C. needs some suggestions.
I would love to see the hydroforming process, welding, and just more of the industrial side of the process. I love to see how things are made. Potential future materials? Carbon zipties? Wink
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flag monkeywhip (Oct 30, 2012 at 3:22)
 Right, short of this being very boring I feel that wire would have a greater breaking resistance than a zip tie which is a bad bad thing. If one of my cables was to snag on something, I would prefer the zip tie to fail and allow slack into the system allowing a more of a chance for the cable to work free. If it is tied down with a wire tie with a far higher breaking strength, this, I feel could result in damage to the rider, frame and cable. This was a total waste of time.... Almost as much of a waste in writing this.....
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flag Lehel-NS (Oct 30, 2012 at 5:58)
 Exactly. If you crash and the cables wrap around the headtube, it's better if a zip tie snaps instead of a cable.
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flag vmedchagr (Oct 30, 2012 at 6:25)
 Lets buy kilometers of .032 or .041-inch stainless-steel safety wire , sell it & become rich !!!!
Come on PinkBike, what is next : Toilet paper melted with plastic to be used as Mudguards ????
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flag markfisher123 (Oct 30, 2012 at 10:00)
 i quote " Having worked on airplanes for a few decades, I had the tools and the talent, so that's what I did."

Zip ties require no skills almost everyone knows what one is and how to use them and you only need pliers which almost everyone has.

and i dont want my bike getting scratched due to the wire rubbing.
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flag dualsuspensiondave (Oct 30, 2012 at 10:02)
 This literally is the worst idea I've heard with bike mechanics recently. What a pain in the ass that actually looks awful. We did get a good laugh here in the shop though, so thank you!
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flag Dustjunky (Oct 30, 2012 at 3:32)
 Laughable....It's gotta be a piss take ! ...
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flag vernondan (Oct 30, 2012 at 9:04)
 Sorry you wasted your time Richard....but really, not very useful stuff. Should have used zip ties and then gone riding instead....
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flag danno527 Plus (Oct 30, 2012 at 5:31)
 I knew when pinkbike hired RC that we would get some excellent articles for trail bike riders, some great mechanical stuff and the odd really strange quick fix article that is almost completely useless.
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flag Protour (Oct 30, 2012 at 8:26)
 He does come up with some decent ideas at times, but this is notoriously awful. Wish they would have posted a picture of him with his safety glasses on installing the wires.
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flag badbadleroybrown (Oct 30, 2012 at 11:24)
 Safety wire works damn well for freeing up a stuck master link on your chain as well... As you tighten the 'twist', it pulls the links together and opens the master link with no trouble.
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flag whattheheel (Oct 30, 2012 at 14:44)
 Or just buy the park pliers...
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flag badbadleroybrown (Oct 30, 2012 at 14:50)
 You get me deal... I buy!
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flag whattheheel (Oct 30, 2012 at 14:51)
 There like ten bucks. I send.
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flag badbadleroybrown (Oct 30, 2012 at 14:53)
 No shit? I always assumed they were stupid expensive like the Hozan cutters.
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flag whattheheel (Oct 30, 2012 at 14:54)
 Technically $14.40 retail. I no mess with needle nose again!
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flag crs-one (Oct 30, 2012 at 23:49)
 Literally the only redeeming feature to this article. Thanks Leroy. I hate fussing with master links.
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flag mammal (Oct 30, 2012 at 6:48)
 If this was April Fools day, I would think this is awesome... But it's not, so it's super lame. Who doesn't love zip ties? I zip tied a deraileur back together on a whistler trip and still achieved 4 shiftable gears.
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flag aubbietrekrules (Oct 30, 2012 at 2:32)
 What a waste of a tech Tuesday....... I guess they are running out of topics?
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flag arczii (Oct 30, 2012 at 0:36)
 It's stupid Wink
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flag johnovey (Oct 30, 2012 at 9:27)
 If you have that much time on your hands, go fix a trail instead.
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flag lloydie123 (Oct 30, 2012 at 8:59)
 And I just saw one of the last pictures of him wiring the long bit of cable on the rear derailure... if the excess cable was cut to a proper length he wouldn't need to tie it up
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flag bno83 (Oct 30, 2012 at 4:08)
 not a chance this is any sort of step forward! And you mention bout zip ties being sharp if not cut correctly, Well ive never ripped the skin from my fingers / arms etc quite as much as someone elses shi!!y pig tails or loose ends of locking wire - its quite frankly dangerous. I agree it looks good, but at a cost not worth taking! Keep it holding our crappy air fleet together!
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flag zrider79 (Oct 30, 2012 at 9:07)
 Using safety wire is actually really good for certain sections on bikes. I use it on my dh bike and trail bike for cables around the bottom bracket and suspension links because I have had a lot of zip ties break and cause rubbing on the wheel or chainring. Also I use it on my dirt jumper for my brake cable. The zip ties break often during crashes. This is not a bad idea, but I would not replace all zip ties, just a few in key areas that break often.
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flag twellsie (Oct 30, 2012 at 5:54)
 having worked in the aircraft industry for a number of years this yet again highlights one of my pet hates when people are showing how to wire lock parts, in that people always miss the first step, which is to pre-stretch the wire!

Hold one end of the wire in a vice and pull the other end with pliers, (you would be surprised how much the wire stretches) than continue as shown above.
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flag rolandpoland (Oct 30, 2012 at 9:06)
 I think it must be a joke, because you couldn't be serious with that idea. Seriously. Worst idea ever.
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flag spacebike (Oct 30, 2012 at 5:43)
 I think RC has too much time on his hands.
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flag rolandpoland (Oct 30, 2012 at 9:10)
 "Words of caution
Cut wire can be sharp, so anytime you are working with it, you should treat the cut ends as if they were needles or knives. Clipping short strands of steel wire can send bits flying into your eyes" BRILLIANT IDEA. :-O
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flag cydaps (Oct 30, 2012 at 8:25)
 Waste. Of. Time. Looks really weird, adds to the weight, difficult to clean, difficult to remove (especially out on the trail) likely to scratch your frame, probably end up damaged and sharp after a crash.... crazy! Give me a good old zip tie that takes like 4 seconds to fit and 1 second to remove with cutters...
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flag wakaba (Oct 30, 2012 at 9:29)
 Safety wire is fine if you wire nuts, bolts. Everything with close to equal hardness. Aluminum, Carbon/Epoxi, Plastictubing and cheap Zamaccast (like your rear derailleur) will chaff and wear. Not a good idea.
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flag powpowpow (Oct 30, 2012 at 3:00)
 This is for Halloween ain't it? If you dress up like a monster to go out trick-or-treat on your bike you replace the zip ties by wires.
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flag powpowpow (Oct 30, 2012 at 3:01)
 PS: bring back Mike
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flag mirzamir (Oct 31, 2012 at 19:14)
 can't tell people anything, they'll put you on a cross with a spear in your ass and spit at you while you're bleeding. Shit its just different, sure is hipstery and Shimano Brakes like stuff. Raining nails is good way to put it, because they are crucifying R.C. for his difference in approach.
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flag Cristian1 (Oct 31, 2012 at 13:03)
 In Romania we use normal wire and wire bale decades. You have not invented anything new. We now begin to modernize and use plastic zip-ties, but also wire them what`s good
www.douamaini.ro/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/maner-legat-cu-sarma-4.jpg
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flag soutie1 (Oct 30, 2012 at 7:45)
 The worst Tech Tuesday every, you guys are taking the piss right, zip tie's all they way, 5 sec job and looks much better. Pink bike seems like you running out of tech idea's, how about a "how to silent your bike like the pro's do"
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flag AshBladez (Oct 31, 2012 at 3:25)
 As an alternative yes I get the idea but when bike manufacturers use zip ties and they're so simple to get hold of and use this isn't really a tech tuesday at all. People want to know how to work on their bikes not put them together differently to everyone elses. Zip ties can also be carried on the trail very easily. You're having a laugh if i'm to carry wire, pliers and cutters!!!!! Its certainly a good article but can see why people saying its an idea that no one needs to know or dont agree with it as a tech tuesday
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flag aubbietrekrules (Oct 30, 2012 at 1:04)
 Why don't you just try and re-invent the wheel at the same time......I'll stick to zip ties!
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flag niesen-ranger (Oct 30, 2012 at 1:00)
 to heavy!
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flag Plasticpylo (Oct 30, 2012 at 0:11)
 Looks like an emergency paper clip job. Use the clips that are designed for the job. Why?
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flag carrot-cruncher (Dec 29, 2012 at 3:05)
 This is actually a really cool idea! I own all the tools required to do it, might as well go crazy and wire lock everything! Haha. If bolts werent sunked into the components as much it would be very useful, though difficult to work on down the trail!
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flag SparkyMMI (Nov 20, 2012 at 19:38)
 Hey R.C. I seem to be the only one who found this to be an interesting idea and a creative alternative. As a pilot I love the aviation aspect of it. I'm also a stickler for detail and I thought the safety wire is a nice touch that shows someone cares about every aspect of the build. I would be interested to know the difference in weight of the wire vs. the plastic, because I'm sure its tiny. Anyway I liked your article, and I'm sure there will be a shitstorm headed my way from some ass-brained chucklef*cks for saying so. Who knew zip ties could cause more vitriol than politics?
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flag j-cru (Oct 30, 2012 at 10:05)
 Oh boy, after reading the comments I don't think anyone's going to dig next weeks tech tuesday, "Plasma arc weld your grips on"
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flag HITNRUN Plus (Oct 30, 2012 at 23:37)
 i only use safety wire on my moto grips. zip ties are the way to go when it comes to running cables. cables need some slop to move around especially when it come to fs frames & they provide a lubricious surface to do so. you run risk of slicing through hydraulic lines if you don't know how to use the pliers. it's not for this bike builder.
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flag migkab (Oct 30, 2012 at 3:23)
 Espera ai, a cena de desenrascar tudo com um arame é nossa!! Que merda é esta destes gajos?!
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flag jojotherider1977 (Oct 30, 2012 at 12:02)
 I noticed these on my bottlerocket that I bought recently:

www.transitionbikes.com/Store_Detail.cfm?Token={ts_2012-10-30_14:00:23}-50f7c383f1a988d4-FA7208E6-B0C2-955A-326FF0DE36B9E449&P=2222&o=7

reusable (environment friendly) and does the job.
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flag moloch (Oct 30, 2012 at 13:26)
 they look great but they don't last. had to replace most of them with zip ties
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flag vmedchagr (Oct 31, 2012 at 0:00)
 and expensive compared to zip ties.
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flag nwmlarge (Oct 30, 2012 at 3:33)
 that is an utter waste of time maybe peddle that shit to the fixie boys
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flag p1rid4r (Oct 30, 2012 at 7:18)
 think of the extra weight from all that stainless steel!! I have used wire on my bike and its a pain to fit and I always caught my leg on it, also a pain to remove it as it takes more effort than a zip tie. Gone back to zie ties for good now and they come in nice colours!
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flag seanlegan (Oct 30, 2012 at 15:43)
 Hmm, ride around with Sharp heavy metal that requires tools and comes with a significant weight difference, or carry a few extra small, soft, lightweight, color matching plastic zip tie. Hmmm clear decision. Also, zip ties tear and rip off when a Sharp tug or pull happens. Steel won't be so forgiving. So instead of a loose cable after a crash.....you might have your lines cut. And now your situation just became worse. Good idea, poor application.
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flag james-h (Oct 30, 2012 at 17:52)
 We have used this method for mx bikes for over 8 years, originally used for fastening the grips tight to the bars, wouldnt use them on a frame though due to it easily scratching the frame, can be very sharp and if your cable gets caught the wire wont rip like a cable tie so more chance of splitting hydraulic hoses.....
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flag XxJ0SEPHxX (Oct 30, 2012 at 2:27)
 Lock wires can and should also be used on disc brake mounting bolts to prevent the bolts from coming loose over time.
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flag drbelleville Plus (Oct 30, 2012 at 17:03)
 Man, I know it has been mentioned before, but I will leave the safety wire for my truck and heavy machinery I work on. I would rather a brake hose get snagged with branch or what-ever, and have the zip tie (which I have nicked with side snips) break, than kink or tear my hose right off with some wire. Heck I have used electrical tape to hold cables and hoses on before as well.

Safety wire on my Bike - No Thanks!
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flag mtbracken (Oct 30, 2012 at 7:30)
 Where are my safety glasses?! I can't secure my cables without them. Pffft.
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flag Nobble (Oct 30, 2012 at 8:29)
 So many idiots in here, i used to have zipties break all the time, this is exactly the kind of thing i was looking for.

Instead i used wire twist ties from the grocery store.

As for the people saying it wont break if you catch a cable on something,m: if you hang up a cable enough to break a ziptie then you've most likely hung it up enough that you're gonna have issues regardless of if the fastener snaps or not.

And to everyone saying it will cut your housings, it's fairly simple, dont do it that tight....
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flag dhpig (Oct 30, 2012 at 13:05)
 Only $75 for the wire twister pliers. Everyone on the hill and trail will have a pair on hand. This solves a problem that doesn't exist.
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flag mcarswell (Nov 1, 2012 at 12:01)
 noooo why would you want to do that? IMHO i think a black small zip tie looks better...On the right bike this could be cool but i dont see the point really..it doesnt look that clean..maby its just me...
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flag sam264 (Apr 15, 2013 at 9:30)
 Imagine if this was the normal thing to do, and someone came along and said - why not just use zip ties? They're easier and take half the time. That's how retarded an idea this is.
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flag tonnel2000 (Oct 31, 2012 at 5:27)
 " i questioned why we still use plastic zip ties" BECAUSE THEY ARE BETTER!!!
Mind you i did find the statement "I had the tools and talent" very, very funny.
Please; it's just a bike, not a F16. Get a Job that takes up more of your time.
Do you think this guy has a lot of friends????
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flag DennisP (Oct 30, 2012 at 19:12)
 Or...you can go waaay hippie and tie your crap down with hemp string...and put a nice pretty bow on each...
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flag charliefandango (Oct 30, 2012 at 9:16)
 Appreciate your efforts writing and documenting this article but "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Zippy's... for the win.

-CF-
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flag reinholds Plus (Oct 30, 2012 at 8:56)
 It's a great tool, great technique, only question is why? Zip ties features tool free installation, they are lighter, they are easy to remove and they are better looking.
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flag wheelie7 (Oct 30, 2012 at 7:44)
 This is pretty popular in the motocross world and works great. Ever notice the grooves in a lot of flanged grips? They are for safety wire and nothing holds grips tighter. I've never seen a problem with rust or sharp ends. RIchard, you did a beautiful job, it looks like art!
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flag macross87 (Oct 30, 2012 at 4:54)
 Safety Wire is common practice in some industries. I used the stuff in the airplane/automotive mechanic work and it works great. I have used it on bikes in a pinch when those black clips fall off (easily do).
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flag vmedchagr (Oct 30, 2012 at 2:24)
 too much wire trouble, zip ties forever.
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flag bikepassionate (Oct 30, 2012 at 2:06)
 zip ties can cut through skin quite nicely when sliding over them at speed, not sure if the wire would fair much better. A mechanic friend uses string, much more skin friendly
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flag Spacewolf (Oct 30, 2012 at 4:28)
 worst pB article from a while.... so stupid... why not use a duck tape all arund the tubes ..... hhahahah
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flag taletotell (Oct 30, 2012 at 4:14)
 Seems like the hardness of the wire is going to damage my hoses after a while from rubbing. Also dissimilar metals together without grease or locktite is usually a bad idea. It looks nice, but doesn't seem practical.
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flag adam686 (Oct 30, 2012 at 8:06)
 yeah and what happens if your cable gets caught on something? zip ties snap i cant see that wire even bending
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flag frichelie (Oct 30, 2012 at 2:32)
 You can't cut them off with a penknife. Would be a pain if you needed to remove them on the trail
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flag davidrees91 (Oct 30, 2012 at 2:24)
 Every rider needs to replace a Zip on a ride at some point and you can keep them in your pocket!
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flag Ross666sIdentiti (Oct 30, 2012 at 4:02)
 Have to say Looks neat but zip ties looks neat also and would be done in half the time.. Can't beat zip ties!!
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flag lorDHenry (Oct 30, 2012 at 1:39)
 Wire can be used if you run out of zip-ties. Properly cut zip-tie look better and are easier, faster fit. Wire may look in place only on really retro bike. Why this is in (ghetto) Tech Tuesday?
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flag pigman65 (Oct 30, 2012 at 5:24)
 so can string and sellotape,and they would be quicker.
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flag madmax245 (Oct 30, 2012 at 5:23)
 thread through hole and pull. so easy. wrap around parts use plier tool thing and then have to curl the ends to stop you stabbing yourself. Just looks annoying to use though. they look tidy though
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flag j4r1c6f5 (Oct 30, 2012 at 1:10)
 GAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY You do realize your gunna have to change those like all the time for when u do housing swaps
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flag luchof (Oct 30, 2012 at 7:12)
 this post should have been called: how to turn something simple into something complicated?
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flag jawzzy3 (Oct 30, 2012 at 22:53)
 Can't see any reason to find a replacement for the zip tie--inexpensive, easy to use, does the job flawlessly, light, and you can get them in different colors Big Grin
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flag donpinpon29 (Oct 30, 2012 at 2:39)
 Squeeze your minds designing an affordable and reliable dropper post!!!!! Safety wire......ya,mannnn
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flag Warnerja27 (Oct 30, 2012 at 13:26)
 I like it, I'll use it. I have access to the required materials for free. And a lot of free time, so it's not a big deal to me.
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flag SouthernRI-MTB (Nov 2, 2012 at 8:18)
 Strange, if wire works so well I wonder why all the cable stays have slots perfect for zip ties and not just a hole for some wire??!??
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flag haggis (Oct 30, 2012 at 10:30)
 You have far to much time on your hands friend! I'd rather spend the time riding my bike...
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flag Rolas (Oct 30, 2012 at 0:27)
 why in hell you need goggles for that?? Use goggles when you chop onions, if ya don't want to cry like a little girl
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flag vikb (Oct 30, 2012 at 7:14)
 This is a solution looking for a problem.
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flag bjorntsc (Oct 30, 2012 at 19:31)
 Zip ties have larger surface area and hence do not damage your housing and brake line in a crash.
This would F*ck shit up in a crash.
Horrible idea!!!
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flag chrispct (Oct 30, 2012 at 9:57)
 Some thing different to talk about (I get it) but 4 inch Panduit zip ties and True flush cut electronic wire snips works. Small light weight and no sharp points.
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flag Call-911 (Oct 30, 2012 at 20:30)
 Although I'll stick with zip ties it's always good to see other alternatives.
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flag dude199 (Oct 30, 2012 at 16:30)
 this looks way uglier than zip ties !
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flag cableguy (Oct 30, 2012 at 8:05)
 RC has gone senile
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flag nico100 (Oct 31, 2012 at 10:07)
 It's a nice change from his articles about why flat pedals suck.
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flag ManuelMTB (Oct 30, 2012 at 8:19)
 You have got to be kidding me! Zip ties are cleaner & easier to set up.
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flag Andy-BMX94 (Oct 30, 2012 at 13:43)
 All the best things are held together with cable ties, and i dont even cut them, its quicker than trying to find pliers and you can reuse them Wink
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flag utopic (Oct 30, 2012 at 8:53)
 I wouldn't do this on my bike but +1 for creativity .

We need more people that try to change the "statu quo" for the better. Smile
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flag universe (Oct 30, 2012 at 6:44)
 April Fools!

:/
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flag downhill101 (Oct 30, 2012 at 12:38)
 Works great for holding my moto grips on. A little overkill for mountain bike cables
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flag Sshredder (Oct 30, 2012 at 14:28)
 RC your just old and nostalgic. Demmo,s have this plastic spacer cable holder that is a piece of crap. You show a good alternative....Rainin Nails hahahahahah I love it!
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flag juslucky23 (Oct 31, 2012 at 9:45)
 i was waiting so long for a tech tuesday and now this...i guess theirs so much you can do with a bike with all these new technologies? guess i'am being a little stubborn
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flag loaded (Oct 30, 2012 at 6:06)
 I feel dumber for reading this article. PS this is the same guy that thinks 17psi in your mtb tires is ok too. I've said it before and will say it again, RETIRE RC while you still have your dignity
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flag jumpman2334 (Oct 30, 2012 at 16:26)
 damn. im at 19lbs. think i should lower it to 15lbs?

lol
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flag mpathic (Oct 31, 2012 at 5:29)
 Too late for the dignity thing. The guy's been a total joke for years. Anyone remember an MBA article attempting to change 'freeriding' to 'black diamond riding', for example? The arrogance and stupidity of his articles in MBA was always astounding, and I feel that PB has definitely lost cred by bringing this fossil on board.
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flag luis-beri (Oct 30, 2012 at 3:00)
 i wish i invented the zip-ties... and own the patented design. i would be very very rich right now
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flag eurospek (Oct 30, 2012 at 13:42)
 This safety wire method makes as much sense as paid toilers.
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flag cikudh (Oct 30, 2012 at 17:06)
 sweet effort and article .... now lets go for Pro riders interview .... yeahh!!
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flag Schmitty (Oct 30, 2012 at 17:41)
 I'm sticking with zip ties.
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flag ukr77 (Oct 30, 2012 at 0:16)
 That is some very high quality work! Thank Jebus GE allow us to use Safe-T-Wire now ;-)
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flag DennisP (Nov 2, 2012 at 18:21)
 How about you spend less time twisting little wires and more time riding your bike?
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flag kutcsafreeride (Oct 31, 2012 at 9:20)
 y not use a red ribbon and make a bouquet at the end????
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flag SimosKifissiaBike Plus (Oct 31, 2012 at 5:34)
 O MALAKAS!!!!
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flag Eastshorebiker (Oct 31, 2012 at 14:26)
 does this guy get paid to do this waste of time stuff? zip ties are perfect for the job they do on bicycles.
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flag TyranT21 (Oct 30, 2012 at 1:28)
 Zip Ties hold the world together but this looks like it does the same job, just fancier.
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flag endlesstrailz (Nov 1, 2012 at 6:17)
 Cut your zip ties with an exacto knife and they'll never be sharp Wink
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flag batesie (Oct 30, 2012 at 2:17)
 Or there's the Mowa cable guides?
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flag l33th3tr33 Plus (Oct 31, 2012 at 0:09)
 Zip ties are lighter, and don't look like you just re used the wire from a wine bottle cork. Zip tie 1 - 0 safety wire
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flag jcklondon (Oct 30, 2012 at 19:52)
 Could this be the end of zip-ties at World Cup Downhills? What does Aaron Gwin use to fix his cables to his frame? :p
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flag Ping-Pong (Oct 30, 2012 at 20:17)
 I suggest playing with your other tool, rather then buying a new specific tool when you run out of things to write about.
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flag mrfitz424 (Nov 4, 2012 at 9:12)
 i love zip ties. they are the fastest and most easy way to route cables. i love them almost as much as duct tape.
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flag Rowan11 (Nov 1, 2012 at 9:31)
 fair play mate, that's the most amount of comments ive seen on any post! any publicity is publicity!
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flag DennisP (Oct 30, 2012 at 19:13)
 Or how about floss? It'll make your bike "Minty"!
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flag Nomadder (Nov 1, 2012 at 3:46)
 hahahahha
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flag lukeadams666 (Oct 30, 2012 at 3:12)
 I safety wire enough parts on airplanes I don't want to do it on my bike also.
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flag yozer13 (Oct 30, 2012 at 9:21)
 i would use lock wire for my caliper bolts, or other parts you dont want to shake loose but not to tie up cables.
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flag Adriano75 (Oct 30, 2012 at 9:48)
 Arame, que merda de idéia é essa... do tempo em que se usava fita isolante como protetor de câmara.
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flag fedz (Oct 30, 2012 at 12:34)
 Thats what I thought
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flag kurt-heering (Oct 30, 2012 at 8:08)
 seems pretty pointless
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flag themountain (Oct 30, 2012 at 3:49)
 ".. but it looked pretty sharp " Exactly my point why I use Zip ties Wink
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flag lloydie123 (Oct 30, 2012 at 8:53)
 pointless, looks even worse then a tidy little zip tie and takes much longer to install
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flag plegmus (Oct 30, 2012 at 9:18)
 ugly as smelly shit , get a zip ties or get a 8" velcro ties
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flag malc190 (Oct 30, 2012 at 6:02)
 I really don't think I could be arsed doing all that and probely stabbing my self in the process, cable ties work well
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flag flowww (Oct 30, 2012 at 6:04)
 heat ends of your zip ties with a lighter, no more sharp
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flag bigair5 (Oct 30, 2012 at 8:59)
 I'd be worried about the wire wearing on the frame, and lines!
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flag brett7 (Oct 30, 2012 at 11:08)
 We use safety wire in motox as a necessity it's completely OTT and ugly as sin for mountain bikes
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flag Silocycle (Oct 30, 2012 at 10:06)
 Wack! Complete waste of time. 4 real. Lame.
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flag daveybrookes (Oct 30, 2012 at 13:05)
 the ends of the wire are sharp also
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flag dimitree (Oct 30, 2012 at 7:27)
 ...and the wire will eat away at the housing/hose much faster than a zip tie. Terrible idea Pinkbike.
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flag H-MONSTER (Oct 30, 2012 at 3:29)
 How many of you got your leg stuck in front rectangle in the moment of a crush !?
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flag fedz (Oct 30, 2012 at 12:34)
 OMG... I don't believe what I'm reading ! You're kidding me right ?
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flag Xc2dh1 (Oct 30, 2012 at 8:07)
 Lame
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flag kerberos (Oct 30, 2012 at 3:27)
 "the factor of NOT owning a ubiquitous-looking bike" - this one yes, but no use beyond.
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flag THE-GUNT (Oct 30, 2012 at 7:25)
 That's only good for keeping mx grips on you dirt bike.
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flag china666 (Oct 30, 2012 at 7:59)
 I think that's not a bad idea), but still there are tips that people need that are just starting to ride a bike)
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flag crowe (Oct 31, 2012 at 8:17)
 i'll stick with the zip-ties.
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flag kennethdlt (Oct 31, 2012 at 11:56)
 over thinking everything, zip ties already look good
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flag kurmo Plus (Oct 30, 2012 at 8:53)
 next tech tuesday: lacing a wheel with saftey wire!
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flag seanlegan (Oct 30, 2012 at 15:49)
 And how to use bubble gum to fix a blown seal in a fork! Lol.
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flag bigfrank (Oct 30, 2012 at 5:39)
 almost useless article, zip : simple, strong, light, diff colors,
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flag DyraApparel (Nov 1, 2012 at 9:23)
 Would be such a hassle to take off
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flag JamieBrownmtb (Oct 30, 2012 at 6:52)
 what a dumb idea.
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flag Gruta (Oct 30, 2012 at 8:00)
 The ultimate steampunk accessorie !
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flag hambone2 (Oct 30, 2012 at 7:00)
 If its going to save me some weight, I'm all over it :p lol
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flag jamesxciv (Oct 30, 2012 at 5:15)
 Funeyyeee.
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flag seidla (Oct 30, 2012 at 9:50)
 Wanna make your bike heavier? Here's how to...
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flag saturnine (Oct 30, 2012 at 20:21)
 what about glue? then you wouldn't even see anything.
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flag CaptainLip (Oct 30, 2012 at 15:40)
 what a stupid article by pb.
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flag eurospek (Oct 30, 2012 at 9:58)
 Zip ties weigh less. Enough reason for me to stick with them.
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flag Cruz83 (Oct 30, 2012 at 12:06)
 That looks crap what a waste of time, useless idea!!
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flag huack (Oct 30, 2012 at 4:15)
 Zip ties are lighter. Win.
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flag THE-GUNT (Oct 30, 2012 at 7:53)
 And look better
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flag dirtdoctor (Oct 30, 2012 at 21:19)
 Is it April 1st? RC has COMPLETELY lost his mind... wtf are you thinking bro?
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flag twowheelfury (Oct 30, 2012 at 13:51)
 ummm, yeah, no thanks. Looks pretty cheesy.
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flag monstertiki (Oct 30, 2012 at 23:41)
 Really? Bailing wire? Are you guys running out of tech stuff to write up?
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flag saturnine (Oct 30, 2012 at 9:12)
 zipties look unfinished but this doesn't??
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flag Namehere (Oct 30, 2012 at 13:19)
 Hipsters
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flag savmeister (Oct 30, 2012 at 23:02)
 is it april 1st already ?!! ..
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flag jonnyboy (Oct 30, 2012 at 22:19)
 RC's chips have been proverbially pissed on.
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flag Andy-M (Oct 30, 2012 at 12:19)
 Load of shite
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flag quat-fro (Nov 1, 2012 at 7:17)
 Cracking idea!
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flag forceyoda (Oct 30, 2012 at 16:04)
 I lost alot of respect for PB when they hire RC after all his mountain bike fiction crap. The guy has no credibility and is a joke.
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flag EuroinSF (Oct 30, 2012 at 16:39)
 That's a bit harsh. RC has produced some great articles although this is clearly not one of them. Why so much hostility?
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flag brandonweekly (Oct 30, 2012 at 9:06)
 Down with R.C!
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flag RichardCunningham Mod Plus (Nov 2, 2012 at 15:30)
 26 thousand reads. Oh yeah! Thanks for putting my story on the PB leader board. Gotta love haters.
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flag Andy-M (Nov 8, 2012 at 10:59)
 I'd assess the quality of you're writing not by the number of reads but by the general concensus of the comments
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flag larryssman7 (Nov 9, 2012 at 16:02)
 Haha this is terrible, haters, haters everywhere
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flag bowness8 (Dec 15, 2012 at 13:57)
 Wow lots of haters! You must be good. I didn't read all the comments so it may of been suggested already; after I cut my zip ties, I use finger nail trimmers to finish trim them off leaving a nice, rounded finish that won't threaten to sever an artery.
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