Interbike 2008 - Tomac Primer 220
by Tyler Maine
Oct 10, 2008
The name Tomac is synonymous with racing and winning when it comes to mountain biking. Johnny T did it all back in the day - he raced road, XC, Dual and Downhill and he kicked a lot of asses at all these disciplines. Through his knowledge and experience, along with his good buddy Doug Bradbury's abilities, Tomac bikes was born.
Check inside to learn more about the Tomac Primer 220 from Johnny T himself and Joel Smith:
Check inside to learn more about the Tomac Primer 220 from Johnny T himself and Joel Smith:
The Tomac DH legacy continues with the Primer 220, a full blown DH bike designed to take on the toughest courses and win. The Primer 220 is the work of Mountain Bike Hall of Famer and Manitou-suspension fork founder Doug Bradbury, who's experience during Johnny T's pro racing days led him to design another bike of World Cup heritage. Featuring 220mm of luscious travel, the Primer has enough CNC-machined aircraft-grade 6061 T-6 aluminum to launch a space program.
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Geometry
| Small | Medium | Large | |
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| HA | 64.0 | 64.0 | 64.0 |
| SA | 62 | 62 | 62 |
| Eff TT | 22.83" | 23.62" | 24.4" |
| CS | 17.32” | 17.32” | 17.32" |
| ST | 15.94” | 16.73” | 17.5" |
| BB | 14.84” | 14.84” | 14.84" |
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Specs and features:
* 220mm rear travel, designed for a 203mm travel fork
* sold in white only with the Fox DHX 5.0 coil spring rear shock
* 11.5 pound (5215g) frame weight for medium size
* 7050 aluminum front triangle and rear end with CNC aluminum links and dropouts
* 150x12mm rear drop out spacing
* Custom hex axle (include with frame
* Single pivot linkage design with oversized 83mm bottom bracket shell and ISCG05 mounts for guides
* Custom hex axle (included with frame)
* Low leverage 9.5 x 3 inch stroke rear shock
* Oversized bearings
* Low stand over height
* Available in small, medium and large
Please visit www.tomacbikes.com to learn more about the Primer 220 and the rest of the Tomac Bikes fleet.
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117 Comments
Tomac: the word for the ultimate race bike.I have Tomac,and i love it so much.Its so sharp and on the game everytime i take it out to the hills.This new version must be a dream to ride.
im sorry jojojof... are you on drugs???
no norco will ever look as sick as this tomac... NEVER
(just the look, i have not ride a norco so i dont know how it rides)
no norco will ever look as sick as this tomac... NEVER
(just the look, i have not ride a norco so i dont know how it rides)
duh lol
srry my friend wrote that he dumb he think just cuz frame curved and has a horizontal spring he thinks its like a norco this tomac is SICK it looks sick anyway
srry my friend wrote that he dumb he think just cuz frame curved and has a horizontal spring he thinks its like a norco this tomac is SICK it looks sick anyway
my friend who is on the kenda team has the primer in Black, it was the only one made. He loved it while he had it and when i rode it down the trails i though that it was an amazing racing bike. So for everyone thinking about one i would strongly sugest getting one. He now has a white a frame because his top tube buckled on him. :/
I dont understand why every manufacturer still takes the single pivot approach. I mean as long as it is attached to the front triangle its a single pivot. Just because it uses the travel of the rear shock doesnt make it not a single pivot. WOW ok....
Looks like last years commencal supreme in pretty much every way except the frame doesnt surround the shock. Nice lookin ride never the less!
because he compared a Tomac to a Norco LOL.
Norco's can't even get close to comparing. Performance to looks...
Norco's can't even get close to comparing. Performance to looks...
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Stop COMPLAINING about similarities with other GREAT frames... DH has been FS for +15 years now... why don't all the similarities experts above come up with a new frame design that doesn't weigh like a Harlydavidson!
BTW: All the newborn cocky teenagers that compares this frame design with Norcos and Treks should start researching more further back in time than 07... how about Giant team DH -05?, Scott High octane?
I'm no expert! just SICK of all totally meaningless comments...
f*cking awesome frame!
Santa: HIGH on my Christmas-wish-list
BTW: All the newborn cocky teenagers that compares this frame design with Norcos and Treks should start researching more further back in time than 07... how about Giant team DH -05?, Scott High octane?
I'm no expert! just SICK of all totally meaningless comments...
f*cking awesome frame!
Santa: HIGH on my Christmas-wish-list
I totally agree. This linkage has been around for a very long time. Mountain Cycle has used it for years. Go way back and the GT RTS used it too. The list goes on. In spite of the fact that the Session 10 uses a similar linkage, they are very different frames. Look at the pivot location. They aren't even close to being in the same area. This will give the bikes very different ride characteristics. If anything, this bike is similar to the Foes DH frame. Similar linkage and pivot location. But even this doesn't mean anything. The linkage can be tuned completely different from one another. Bottom line, you gotta ride them to really compare them. Stop looking at photos and drawing conclusions. Do some research by reading and riding to educate yourself. Alright, enough, get out and ride.
Get off you're f!"*ing pedistal and respect the fact that these are posts of opnions based on pic's. Half of pinkbike probably don't even remember Lobo's, ATX's Team DH's, M1's, FSR DH's ect...
Totally agree with superbastard and timebomb.
everyone thinks the big brands like norco, kona, trek, etc.... are the best, only, and thought of everything there is out there. they arent at all, i would take one of these over any norco, kona, etc. any day
everyone thinks the big brands like norco, kona, trek, etc.... are the best, only, and thought of everything there is out there. they arent at all, i would take one of these over any norco, kona, etc. any day
^^nice bike.u kids just dont get it.tomac 204 magnum already had similar linkage design about 8 years ago.you still think its copied from sess10n?? check if ya wont believe: http://si6.mtb-news.de/fotos/data/500/tomac_01.JPG
doesnt really matter tht the linkage is 8 years old, it works amazing, just needs new materials and frame design, tht pic reminds me i need to build a brake arm!
the tomac doesn't eaven look like a session 10,it's a other frame design and the linkages.The closest that the tomac looks is that from a kraftstoff.Any way the Tomac looks awesome.
i don't know much about that brand but all i have to say is that I really like that bike, the look, and the function, i would personally rather have a boxxer wc on it, but its a sick frame. and as i read the comments, i have to disagree with the people who claim its a copy of the session 10.
I dont know much.. But the system looks like the one on the Foes 2:1 DHS Mono
http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/2418037/
But the tomac is a machine! It looks pretty good!
http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/2418037/
But the tomac is a machine! It looks pretty good!
i see what you mean, but the rear chock placement is higher on the foes, mainly cuz the eye to eye is friggin huge on the foes shock! but the linkage is a different near the bb. look on foes website..the foes is closer to a virtual pivot then this, and the linkage between rear shock and frame is a smaller piece. both are sick bikes though
there is no frigging similarities between foes motolink and vpp linkages.motolink is basically singlepivot design, vpp is not.
Boy.... you guys aren't very bright. The 17.3 in a small is the chainstay length... not the BB clearance. Doushe bags. It's 14.84 which is pretty run-of-the-mill for bikes like that.
ok there buddy. its a race bike with a bb of almost 15inches...that's insane!! that is NOT "run-of-the-mill for bikes like that." If it was a freeride bike fine, but its not.
Ok there doushy... then I guess the V10, DHR, Demo8, 224 Evo, DHI, Legend, Judge, Norco Team DH, Shocker, Wilson, DHS Mono, Socom, Gambler, Session 88 and Session 10 aren't DH race rigs? Because last time I checked they all had a BB height of 14 in and up, some of them being up near 15 inches too. Alors ta geule salope.
There's nothing I don't like about this... it is a beautiful and powerful machine. I don't care much for white bikes but this is one i would be proud to get filthy over and over and over again.
They need to release the frame in those team colours looks so mint! Plain white just looks that a bit plain, though looks aside I totally love this bike and want 1!
This is a Kenda factory team bike and Manitou is not a sponsor of that team. Beautiful build kit though.
most def a sweet looking bike... thats is a interesting fact thanks for clearing that up makes more sense now
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all bikes get dirty from the most beautifull to the most ugly bikes,if you don't like it to get it dirty don't buy a bike like that
because the prototype would of been made prior to 08 and raced for a year before they were released on the market.
not dissing the bike or the co but johny looked really uncomftorble infrount of a camera................ i want the primer.....cant no money
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you know the guy in the vid rammbles on about 7000 series alu but then at the bottom of the vid your saying 6061
which is it?
which is it?
That Tomac looks awesome, onlything I don't like are the forks, got nothing against fox 40s, but I think they should be 08 and white, Or Bomber world cups. They would looks awesome. I love the swing arm, looks tough as. What do they cost? Props on the bike.
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thanks for the vaguely useless quote, might as well said between 1000 and 10 000 dollars or the in otherwords you have no clue.
Not really jmo. Like mat mentioned, they are frame only, so any shop selling a complete will use their own choice of parts, hence me saying 5-8k for a complete.
The frame yea, 2-4 grand is fine being some shops have higher prices that others. All depends on the shop. MSRP means nothing any more these days.
The frame yea, 2-4 grand is fine being some shops have higher prices that others. All depends on the shop. MSRP means nothing any more these days.
btw I'm also a fellow tomac owner so I know how the pricing ordeal works. I have been through it twice with the brand. Still one of the most solid brands on the planet
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PEOPLE PLEASE! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! Stop arguing about what the suspention looks like, how cool the Mavic’s look or why it has 07 forks on a 08 bike and just appreciate it! Worship this bike for what it is, a truely fabulous peice of kit! if there was ever a better reason to work harder than this, i havent found it! I WANT IT SO MUCH!
looks like a bike I built out of old hockey sticks. would be better in purple,
front fork should be a spoon, blah blah.....Seriously though nice looking ride. probably about as nice to ride as all the other nice bikes out there, wish I could afford one of many many shiny sweet looking bikes.
And yes, Tomac is superman.
front fork should be a spoon, blah blah.....Seriously though nice looking ride. probably about as nice to ride as all the other nice bikes out there, wish I could afford one of many many shiny sweet looking bikes.
And yes, Tomac is superman.
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HAHAHA all of you make me laugh so much! I bet most of you were not even alive when Johnny T was raging the races back in the early 90's. I was out there in the age group right behind him watching him from the line. John Tomac is The Man. Nothing but props and I hope the (re)birth of the company and name brand do him well.
youngsters doesnt know anything about different linkages,and the function and differences of them.teens know only kona trek and ironhorse,and compare everything to them."lol omg that kona stinky is just like sam hills ironhorse" they never bother to check details of the linkages etc.
kids! go to the www.bikechecker.com and download Linkage demo version.maybe youll understand little more about suspension designs...
stfu this supension design is just likethe session 10 adna a kona stink IS NOTHING like an iron horse kona has 4 bar linkage....and ironhorse(had) the DW link
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i dont understand why there are negative a positive props, everyones opinion counts just as much, stupid or smart. but this is a sweet bike, the geo is perfect with the fox 40 on it
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I rode the Primer220 a few days ago here in Berlin (Germany). Waaahhhh I did not want to get off of it. It was like me and the bike where made for eachother. You place your butt on the saddle and it feels like the softest chair you ever sat in. It was equipped like in the video with the Fox fork. The price was 4500 €. I asked one of the salespersons (big store here with 4000 sqkm) if they had it in L (the one I was riding was M). He said yes and showed me a price of 2000 €. I said to myself "Dirk! Order now!" I ordered the bike. When I had left the store the salesperson called me on my mobile and wanted me back in the store. He admitted that he was only selling the frame. I LOL and instantly forgived him. He was very sorry :] But of course the price was irrealistic. I made a storno. Now I think of buying the frame only... Maybe I can get it for 1500 € when the new frame arrives... The bike is a dream. Look at the rear suspension. One joint only. That is the way it is supposed to be!!!! No wonder it reacts so soft and instantly.
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My son finished top ten (junior) in the world on a Primer. The Val Di Sole track was the most technical, rough, slippery, out of control track that we have ever seen. The Primer handled it like it was on rails. Tomac have certainly done their homework in building the best bike that can handle the toughest conditions.
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SICK!!!!!!!!!