^^ Oh c'mon ya pair of miserable bastards. His feet were on the pedals and he's landed something for the first time on MTB. I think you must be emotionally retarded because I've been bundled by mates for just hitting a jump before now. Call me a sceptic but if he was a yank I doubt you'd be so negative.
So... not the worlds first 720 tailwhip. Maybe the first on a slightly larger bike, marketed as a "Mountain Bike". Don't get me wrong, it was sick, and I can't wait to see him take it to the slope, where the "mountain" term will actually apply.
Neg props away! That's ok. Your ignorance isn't your fault. You have been sold these definitions. Have fun on your heavy, expensive, fragile contraptions. I have a couple of those as well. Just realize that the kid out at the trails on the little bike that cost less than half of yours, and will last twice as long, is doing the same thing as you. It's the SAME THING on a very slightly different bike.
Not at all. I'm laughing too. Im not being sarcastic when I say have fun. Let's break down these barriers, dirt jumping is dirt jumping, no matter what size wheels you're on.
Meca, it has nothing to do with that, it has everything to do with the fact that doing the same trick from BMX on a MTB is a hell of alot harder. Bigger wheels, more weight, more bike to haul around. It's completely different a hell of a lot harder. That's why we have a distinct difference for tricks landed on MTB vs. BMX
Agreed. It is harder, and of course tricks are going to be learned at traditional bmx style trails and step ups before they're taken to the slope, (which I enjoy seeing). What I don't enjoy is seeing kids who can't afford a decent mtb jumper, don't know that they can do the same thing on a lower priced, more durable bmx, out at the trails breaking their bikes and not being able to ride because they're constantly more focused on the equipment that the actual riding.
This is where I have a problem with the distinction. Not at the pro level, but on the entry level. Riding a bike off a jump IS BMX, no matter what bike you're on. This fact is ingeniously hidden by the marketing departments of all the major bicycle manufacturers. They can sell mtb jump bikes, that cost the same to manufacture, for twice the price of bmx bikes because of this distinction. And as suicidedownhiller said, its a hell of a lot harder to do the same tricks on a mtb. So the focus is put on the bike, when that same kid could have just been focusing on the riding. Take a look at some of your favorite mtb jumper/downhill/4x/slopestyle riders bios. You might notice a common beginning between a lot of them.
Dude what tha feck!!! I think that doing this trick requires a lot of practice... I've landed 720's a couple of times and i've dialed tailwhips but dude just imagine JUST IMAGINE combining those tricks... and in a MTB... Really DOPE! and besides that thing you say about the mountains, maybe it's ok and we should start calling it 26" instead of MTB. But there is a difference between 20" and 26" bikes. Let me make you think about this examples
20" are more small, so the tricks are way more easier than 26" 20" are more short, so the spins tricks like backflip, 360, 720 and tailwhips requires less effort 20" are lighter, so for what im going to explain that... I think you got it
Trick is pretty sick and its really good rated in BMX, so imagine that in MTB...
Meca, just STFU. "Very slightly different bike"? Yeah, one's a kids bike & the other is a grown up bike. More people can relate to the bigger bikes & that's why they're so popular & no one really gives a shit about BMX. As far as the tricks being harder, some are & some aren't, it depends on the trick & the size of the jump. Bigger bikes are more versatile overall & I'm sorry that your rendition of the sport is dying, but that's the way natural selection works bitch, the weak die & the strong survive. Some of our favorite rider's bios may show a beginning in BMX, because of the time we're in. In 50 years, or less, if you're still alive then you'll see that'll no longer be the case. Take a look at the 1st video in this months "VOD" & see what that kid is riding. There may be a lot in the sport with 20" roots, but there are a lot now that started on 26" & it's rare that anyone "downgrades" back to a 20". Where did you get the idea that disc brakes & suspension forks cost the same amount to produce as rim brakes & rigid forks? You can buy a decent 24"/26" for about the same $ as a decent 20" & have a rig that can do much more. It's like the difference between a PC & a console. The PC costs a bit more & it's bigger, but it can do a lot more & do it better & that's why there are billions of PC users & a few console users. Billions of 26" users & a steadily dwindling few 20" users. Maybe sad, but completely true.
Ha! This is a great conversation! Guess what? You're all right! I don't even ride my 20" anymore. I ride a Jackal and a Transition Double, but there is no way I or my parents could have afforded one of these kinds of bikes, (if they had existed) when I was a kid.
Everyone should be able to ride what they want.
The cost to markup comparison is relative. Of course disc brakes and suspension cost more than u-brakes and rigid forks. If you look at frame prices, the difference is bit more clear. It is close to twice as much. A few more inches of tubing don't account for that much of a mark up.
How about if the main point is that mtb prices should come down and quality should go up? It's actually happening, slowly.
We need to keep this distinction between 26" and 20" wheels. People can't be thinking a whip is a whip irregardless of wheelsize, that kind of thinking leads to scooters. And scooters must be destroyed.
People are so judgemental of new tricks. Like holy shit that doesn't count at all because he didn't land it perfectly. It's pretty rare for anything being done for the first time to be done perfect. Get over yourselves and give the man some credit. Rant over.
I love how fast shit is progressing in mountain biking lately, components, tricks, everything. I can't wait to see some kind of crazy flip or something thrown into that trick. At this point it's going to take a lot to blow my mind
Ok seriously...this goes to pinkbike, the new video player is like watching a slideshow with sound. I looked and made sure that it wasn't the computer and thought I'd give it a second chance but it's still a slideshow with sound. Would you please go to the old video player. .
if you translate nasty into german and then say it in the austrian form "grausig" it would also mean gnarly. so let's try again haha f*cking gnarly british people! is that better for you and the queen?
yes its been done on a bmx but you gotta admit if you've ridden both its a lot harder to pull stuff on an mtb!
I can 3 on flat on my bmx, but I'm not even close on flat with my mtb ....... besides a 720 tailwhip is crazy no matter what you pull it on!
props on this one! so cool to see the sport progressing!
