Rolling with the Changes at Whistler Mountain Bike Park

May 29, 2015
by Lee Lau  
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From the reception the Whistler Bike Park got on announcing changes it appears that there still is grumbling among the pro-riders who dominate the readership of Pinkbike about the dumbing down of trails. I attended a media session to get a bit more background on the planned paving of A-Line and Dirt Merchant.

Present were the cabal of the Whistler Bike Park's senior staff (Brian, Rob and Wendy) who explained that the dominant theme of planned changes was to improve customer experience with a special emphasis on never-evers - whether to biking or to bike-parks, even a casual observer can see that WBP media is dominated by pro-level edits and imagery/video directed at the testosterone repressed keyboard cube-dweller so it's refreshing to see so many concrete initiatives targeted at the beginner/intermediate.

The new customer experience focus is to recognize that many are getting into the sport. The goal is to incorporate them into bike and bikepark culture with an emphasis on education and progression. One product is the Whistler Bike Park Orientation Guide which will hopefully aid in acclimatizing riders to the bike park.

Improved trailmap and descriptions

The trailmap, graphics and trail descriptions were reinvented with more self-explanatory graphics (eg HUGE GAPS or MAN-MADE TERRAIN - see further below) and freestyle terrain descriptions adapted from winter sports to denote when trails had greater risk, or greater speed. Trails descriptions will be improved with the goal being for different rider ability levels being able to self-assess their skills so they can progress safely up the ladder of difficult trails.

A Kinder Gentler Bike Park
Lots of little reminders about technique

A Kinder Gentler Bike Park

From L to R: (i) Gratuitous picture of new gondola; note the plexiglass to protect windows. (ii) better signage to indicate trail nature (love the gap jump pics that SHOULD tell the story of what to expect even for never-evers; and (iii) trail progression chart - easier trails on the top. Harder trails on the bottom. Voila - a graphical way for never-evers to figure out what trails to ride in their logical progression from easier to harder to gain certain skills.

Free Orientation Sessions

Free orientation sessions are to be provided at various locations throughout the bike park. Basically it's a way for never-evers (either to biking or to the WBP) to get to talk to a local and get some familiarity with the bike park. Some very basic how-to's will be provided (how to stand, how to brake, what to ride) along with presentation of etiquette (eg watch and listen for faster riders coming up behind you and get ready to pull over safely if you are getting passed). To answer a pressing concern of PBers, n00bs will be asked not to stand on lips while checking them out or to lie down in the bottom of landings.

A Kinder Gentler Bike Park
Terry and Nadio

A Kinder Gentler Bike Park
Mike Johnstone honing future instructors on a course

Better Squirrel catchers; more pullouts

Obstacles representative of the character of the trails will be added at various trailheads (Dirt Merchant, A-Line, CIU) to clearly indicate the nature of the trail. While nothing stops people from climbing around the squirrel catchers it's going to be a good deal harder for people to say that they didn't know what to expect.

Ian Morrison's interpretation of the A-Line squirrel catcher

A Kinder Gentler Bike Park

Dirt Merchant squirrel catcher and signs
Dirt Merchant squirrel catcher step down

A Kinder Gentler Bike Park
A-Line squirrel catcher. It's a permanent structure so doesn't look as ghetto as the old catcher. It's also much more representative of what will come than the old thing that people rolled anyway. Plus it looks nice

Better equipment for trailwork and new trails

Finally, because I'm a trailwork geek something that personally got me super excited and was decidedly off-script for the media day was the gushing about new trailwork equipment. At the media event was David Murphy who is trail crew supervisor and who was understandably excited about their new baby - a dirt carrier truck. It would cost approximately 122k to buy but is leased at 7k/per month). What it allows the trail crew to do is to transport water and dirt using a small footprint on singletrack. Armed with a water carrier it allows the bike park trailcrew to expand their work to maintain and build trail during summer when otherwise it would be too dry.

Some work was also done prior to the season to install more pullouts on trails to allow for safer and easier passing. Trailcrew also modified CIU and A-Line so the trails start with less lippy jumps. By the time you're halfway down the two trails everything's back to normal and/or changed to allow more for incremental progression. Other changes were to modify the green trails (Easy Does It, Del Boca Vista, B-Line) to make them feel more consistent.

Finally, the trail crew plan to add a new trail 'Crank It Up More' to fill in the jumping progression gap from Crank It Up to A-Line with projected opening for mid June.

A Kinder Gentler Bike Park
Look at this machine! Look at how much dirt you can haul!

A Kinder Gentler Bike Park
This gorb using a pullout


MENTIONS: @leelau / @WhistlerMountainBikePark



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  • 154 18
 While Pinkbike obviously caters to an experienced, advanced level, I don't think it's very constructive to refer to to new riders as "noobs" or "gorbs" (especially singling a guy out in a photo). Downvote me if you'd wish, but not everyone who jumped on their bike for the first time was Stevie Smith, Chris Kovarik, Remy Metailler, etc.... right out of the gate.
  • 84 1
 With the exception of Stevie Smith, Chris Kovarik, Remy Metailler etc.... xD
  • 43 16
 imo pinkbike does a good job of covering what both sides want, noobs and "pro level" riders. BUT dumbing down trails for beginners is RIDICULOUS. no one ever became a better rider by dumbing things down or riding easier trails. "pro level" riders simply need to remember they were beginners once and tolerate the noob stuff people do.
  • 49 0
 ...we also shouldn't be putting beginners on A-line or In Deep. Progression is just that. There should be a wide range of trail for people to PROGRESS and push themselves at their own pace.
  • 15 1
 Building trails that encourage progression is hard. Too easy and the rider doesn't get better, too hard and it discourages people. The problem is that everybody has a different level where it becomes too hard.
I would really like to see trails built with really good signage and multiple features throughout. Something like: "every jump on this trail has three levels of difficulty. Right is a short table, middle is a long table, and left is a double or gap". If a trail as long as crank it up was built this way I would hit the easy table the first jump or two, hit the middle table for most of the trail, and try the doubles near the bottom. Hit one badly then switch back to the next lower difficulty.
  • 10 1
 Whitebullit: Have you ridden A-line this year? I don't think its dumbed down at all; sure its not as kicky as in the past, but the jumps are still high speed and super fun for those of us who have ridden it a billion times. I am sure the famous and previously mentioned pro locals aren't pouting about the changes either
  • 13 1
 @adrock-whistler, I'm pretty sure the "gorb" being singled out is the author of the article. Correct me if I'm wrong @leelau.
  • 8 1
 So true, the correct term is "squid."
  • 3 0
 @jmrbauer like the kid from rocket power? lol
  • 4 0
 @jmrbauer The term squid applies to those guys on sportbikes wearing wifebeater tanks, shorts, flipflops, and no helmet. Usually they are found on a "Gixxer" and are known to be skill less fools who put everyone around them in danger.
  • 47 0
 Uh @adrock-whistler the gorb in the picture is me.

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  • 15 0
 @leelau Ah very good; apologies. No one appreciates self deprecating humour more than I.
  • 5 0
 No worries ad-rock
  • 6 0
 Keep in mind it's a business. It's their decision to cater to newer riders, which is a good business plan. It's a resort that draws in tons of differant people, so its smart to get moms who would be normally just hiking or shopping to try out another product that the resort offers. Yeah it's not as great for expert riders but thats the smaller side. Keep in mind its still a gnarly park, and I'm sure they're going to give back to the experts in the near future but people have died in that park, so drastic changes will help encourage people to try riding who would otherwise think it's a thing thats too gnarly for them
  • 3 0
 A lot of my local spots are NOT beginner friendly at all. The builders all build what they want (as they should, it is their time, sweat, and money) and most of them have abandoned their earlier work for stuff that is borderline outrageous. The guys at Blackrock are the best though. They seem to put roughly 1/3 of their efforts into the "beginner" trail. Not much in between the beginner trail and the double blacks though. The blue trail is more of a race course than freeride or jumps.
  • 49 0
 I rode Detroit rock city and upper and lower joy ride last week. no dumbing down there. just whistler gnarr. Smile theirs more to whistler than A-line.
  • 5 2
 Joyride is the sickest trail up there especially with bald tires single crown in the wet with an exception to Captain saftey, and the Manager.
  • 4 2
 tresspaser. needs to be more "trails" like that in Whis.
  • 12 4
 Oh my god you guys can ride those trails? You are so hardcore. Much impressed.
  • 35 1
 Always pullout!
  • 3 0
 And like magic, u dribble before u shoot..which is actually dangerous to the defense!
  • 26 1
 Making more beginner and flow trails, better signage and more squirrel catchers IS NOT THE SAME as trail pussification. Making the existing stuff easy IS trail pussification! Adding easy and intermediate stuff is win! I applaud Whistler and others like Snowshoe who added trails like Easy Street, Skyline, and Dreamweaver. More fun for everybody all day long.
  • 7 0
 I rode skyline/dreamweaver about 12x yesterday which was "easy" but what everyone needs for their first Park trip of the year after the winter off from biking. Was super fun
  • 11 0
 The trail progression chart is genius! I wish that existed last time I was there. To progress, simply ride in the correct order. Going from an easier blue that is almost green to a really hard black that is almost a double black is a recipe for failure and a confidence killer.
  • 7 0
 What the f is a "squirrel catcher"? First time I ever heard of it. And yes, I'm probably a nOOb.
  • 3 0
 Pretty sure its an obstacle that catches the squirrely rider out; causes novice to stop.
  • 5 0
 adding more intermediate keeps more squids off the good stuff. everybody wins
  • 3 0
 Yeah, just a feature at the trail head that will stop people in their tracks for would see uncomfortable doing it from jumping on the trail and realizing they are way over there heads. I've seen more people stop at the starting drop on Dirt Merchant and turn around then any other trail head. It does seem to keep most of the people who can't do the jumps off it.
  • 3 0
 @Brahter : Yeah, that drop kept me off it the first year I was there. LOL
  • 3 0
 diversification of trails keeps people in check with their ability, and out of the way of those riding at a higher level. all whistler has done is make their trails safer with these changes I say this based on the article, not my own obervation
  • 26 1
 i brake in corners, i roost every berm, i got lots of style, i scrub every fern
  • 16 2
 Thats doesnt matter lol coz im faster than you plus my bikes clean and i just got a new tld kit
  • 7 0
 This download broke the story so here it is on the comments - Orientation Guide - Whistler Mountain Bike Park

bike.whistlerblackcomb.com/~/media/19d7f5cda66c4e5a8fef0e02f13f8bdc.pdf
  • 2 1
 Thx!
  • 2 0
 That's so well done! That and the new maps take it to anger level for people new to WBP. Wish all bike parks were this professional.
  • 7 1
 Unfortunately, reading this. I feel trolled, in a way. Whistler must be built for the masses as well. If I want a true riding experience the Whistler Valley has much more riding than the Park. The jumps are the only thing that sets it apart. Whistler will always be a special place for riding. Have fun and always be patient for other riders.
  • 11 6
 Rode yesterday ... Upper A-line isn't as good if you ask me. If you want newbies to say off of trails make the entrances more gnarlier and don't dumb down a classic trail...build another one. That new entrance to A-line won't keep people who really shouldn't be on the trail off of it because you can get on it other ways. I still had fun on A-line however I cannot say it is actually better...far from it. Don't dumb down other trails...or if you do, build new bigger and faster big hit trails for people who come to Whistler for the next level. (BIG, like Crabs but but longer and more interesting). Everything else was still dialed and fun...but if they keep screwing with trails who knows where it will end up.
  • 18 1
 honestly its basically the same as last year. The entrances up top are better and they changed like 3 or 4 jumps. lets not act like they completely changed a-line lol
  • 13 0
 This is kinda a thing in a number of bike parks this year, but everyone seems to forget that the thirty or forty day a year season pass holder doesn't make the park money, they cost it money. To survive the bike parks need people to come, rent bikes, buy day passes, eat lots of sandwiches and buy lots of beers. If we want places to ride, we kind of have to deal with changes like these.
  • 6 0
 I apologize, but I'm confused as to what exactly a 'squirrel catcher' is. Never heard of such a thing before. Can someone elaborate?
  • 7 0
 Stops the people that don't yet have the skills from entering the trail.
  • 21 1
 mandatory technical feature at the entrance of a trail to filter out riders that aren't up to the difficulty of the trail.
  • 4 0
 I get the impression it's a feature at the start of a trail that lets people kind of know whats coming , like a gap jump at the trail head with no chicken line to keep people off who the trails not intended for.
  • 3 0
 I think it's that the first feature potentially weeds out people who's skills aren't up to par with the rest of the trail yet.
  • 3 0
 haha lots of replies
  • 2 0
 I have never heard that term squirrel catcher before either. I wonder if maybe it is something similar to what I would call a "qualifier" at the beginning of a trail. Something at the very start of a trail that is as difficult as anything later on in the trail. Something to let people who have never been on that trail know what to expect so they can bail on the trail right from the start if it is too hard for them.
  • 1 0
 Represents the type of features to expect on the trail. If you can't navigate it, it forces you to think twice before diving in. Nothing to stop a rider but a chance to self assess your skill level.
  • 1 0
 I like to setup my bigger jumps with a ' squirrel catcher ' , stops people skidding on the lip on the main feature jump when it catches them by surprise.
  • 5 0
 Also known as a Wally Filter
  • 4 0
 squirrel catcher has turned into a trending topic
  • 4 0
 It sounds like some kind of innuendo
  • 5 0
 Something that winter terrain parks have yet to understand.... gapers everywhere.
  • 4 0
 This is the first year I've heard the term being used regular like too. I've always known them as "gatekeepers"., but i ain't afraid of no ghost.
  • 1 0
 Squirrel catcher is all well and good, but I nominate "entrance exam" as the new, universal term.
  • 2 2
 Nah, "anal penetrator". That'll keep the faint of heart off the trails.
  • 2 0
 At the entrance of some popular caves a narrow grate has been welded over the entrance. If you can't squeeze through that then you have no business trying to do the same once deep inside the dark cave.
  • 4 1
 That's some good news @leelau ! I'm constantly spreading the gospel of mountain biking and bringing more and more into the fold. There are plenty of hard (aka: fun) trails in Canada (especially - I heart you Canadians and your trail freedom), but I love the idea of crank it up type trails to set the hook and sinker, as well as the progression between that and A-line and beyond.

Good stuff for Whistler that does little to interrupt the advanced trail riders besides Gondola lift lines. I guess Whistler will just have to expand it's summer scope and bring 'Hey Bud' into the official lift accessed trail network... er, wait. Nevermind that.
  • 3 0
 Crashdad, exactly, a line and ciu are two of many many trails at wmbp, there's more flow up top, soon to be opened and lots of tech. trails to be had. Get off a line and everyone brush up on their technical skills........oh wait too sketchy for most
  • 5 0
 am I the only one who's never heard of "Squirrel Catchers" and "Never-Evers"?
  • 3 0
 No. Wtf is a never ever
  • 3 0
 I worked out what a squirrel catcher was but still only got a vague idea of what a never-ever is. Must be a Canadian thing.
  • 2 0
 In winter at the resorts a huge number of skiiers are neverever skied before people. Same is true to a lesser extent in the summer. But it does sound daft to me to try downhill MTB when you've never ridden on trails.
  • 5 3
 Just got back from a doc patient talk ,so i sell my 6 freeride bikes,or have hope to ride flowy trails again im done jumping,so this comes from an ex pinner,to partialy disabled Joey. I either buy a 10 thousand dollar swiss made road bike or try and tolerate a safe enviroment where i can still have fun ,so what if im b crew i can still ride ,i just focus on building and digging now.
  • 2 0
 I may be completely off base for this, but that sign clearly said "Brake THROUGH corner" (without so much emphasis on the "through")

My problem with that advice is it doesn't work and goes against everything you are ever taught related to performance driving/ riding. Now I know us gravity powered machines can't power out of a corner like a motorbike/car can, but I apply the same principle of "Get all the braking done before trying to turn in and lean"

Maybe thats why I am slow haha.
  • 2 0
 If the "dominant theme of planned changes was to improve customer experience with a special emphasis on never-evers", which is completely understandable as Whistler is a resort, why do they charge locals more and more every year? From what I have seen over the last 5 years of being a season pass holder is that the trails are getting easier (also better maintained) and the lineups are down. I hope this was an attempt by Whistler to show case their new equipment and NOT a focus group as they picked the wrong crowd!
  • 4 1
 I'm heading to Whistler for the first time later this year, anything that makes it harder for me to do myself in is fine with me
  • 1 0
 Thanks goodness I took a huck class before doing damage to myself. Excellent instructors at the Bike School.
  • 2 0
 The price of the lesson plus tucket bundled package is a very good deal. Take advantage
  • 1 0
 If only they had this signage along with wrong way signs last season! I was pinned down the motorway section of A-line coming into the right hander (blind corner) when bam, a noob pushing his bike up trail in the berm. I had minimal room between him and the fence, i managed to sit off the back of the bike and break heavily but his handle bar still caught me and sent me flying. I wonder if he found my skin in his break lever.
  • 4 0
 The A-line "squirrel catcher" actually looks pretty fun.
  • 2 0
 The gate is super smooth, just roll off with a bit of speed and the landing is dirt pavement....just enough to get the suspension moving !!
  • 3 0
 The changes on a line are pretty minor and it's not really dumbed down just a little different.
  • 2 0
 All well and good, But aline was much better before. Better progression on the trail for sure, but its not nearly as fun.
  • 1 0
 I think there should be an in between trail from crank it up to a line for riders to get comfortable going at higher speeds while hittng jumps.
  • 1 0
 Blue Velvet!
  • 3 0
 That's the new crank it up more trail that's coming soon.
  • 2 0
 i think this explains things better, trails have not be ruined at all! www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAkN6EI5cZk
  • 4 1
 Upper a-line was destroyed, bring back the tripple!!
  • 1 0
 So how much did they actually change a-line? Is it more fun now or less fun?
  • 2 0
 "n00bs" use was f*cking awesome. f*ck it, i lold.
  • 1 0
 In Colorado we just called it a "filter feature." Filters out all the people who probably don't belong there..
  • 2 0
 When are we gonna see the route for CUI More?
  • 1 0
 Am I the only one who thinks blue velvet is just awful?
  • 1 1
 try and put Never-Ever in the write up a few more times. Its like a bloody nukeproof bike.
  • 1 0
 Did they move the entrance to Dirt Merchant?
  • 1 0
 Not since last year.
  • 1 0
 Ahh..... OK. I went 12 and 13 and skipped last year.
  • 2 1
 Best bike video EVER:-S
  • 2 1
 What trail is CIU?
  • 1 0
 Crank It Up
  • 1 0
 Derp, thanks. I figured it was something obvious that just wasn't coming to mind
  • 1 0
 whistler is fun.
  • 1 0
 I only ride park
  • 1 0
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