Ask Pinkbike: Dropper Post Remotes, XT Brake Rub, Enduro Training, and Bearing Replacement

Jul 26, 2016
by Pinkbike Staff  
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Here at Pinkbike we get inundated with all kinds of questions, ranging from the basic "Can I have stickers" to more in-depth, soul-searching types of queries like if you should pop the question or what to name your first child. Ask Pinkbike is an occasional column where we'll be hand-picking and answering questions that have been keeping readers up at night, although we'll likely steer clear of those last two and keep it more tech oriented.





Remote Question

Question: Pinkbike user GeorgeAlbery asked this question in the All-Mountain, Enduro and Cross-Country forum: I'm wondering if there are any dropper seatpost remotes out there to replace the one that's supplied with the Giant seatpost? I'm not running a 1x setup, so I can't use a remote that has its trigger below the handlebar.


bigquotesUnlike some droppers, the Giant seatpost's cable is clamped up at the remote, which means that you'll have to use a remote that does the same. This rules out remotes from 9point8, KS, older Crankbrothers, X-Fusion, Specialized, and Thomson, all of which see the cable end seated in a bore at the remote and the cable clamped at the post itself.

The 2x/3x-compatible remote for Fox's new Transfer dropper post is pretty slick and can be purchased separately, and the remote that controls Crankbrothers' new Highline dropper can also be made to work in conjunction with a front shifter. The remote for Thomson's internally routed dropper would also work. All of those options clamp the cable at the remote, just like the Giant seat post. Another one to check out is the Triggy aftermarket remote from BikeYoke, the same company that makes a neat cable conversion kit for Reverb seatposts. - Mike Levy

Crankbrothers Highline dropper seatpost 2016
  While shown here under the handlebar, the Highline's remote can also mount up top to clear a front shifter. The same can be said of the remote for Fox's new Transfer dropper post.





XT Brake Pads Rub After Adjustment

Question: backyardrails asks in the All Mountain, Enduro & Cross-Country forum: I have 2015 Shimano XT brakes with 160mm rotors. After adjusting the caliper on the stand, the front rotor will start rubbing and grinding after a session of hard braking. Any ideas?


bigquotesI am assuming that when you adjusted your brakes, the rotors ran almost perfectly true and there was no contact with the brake pads. Two sources could be causing your brake rub: the first is natural heat expansion and the second is uneven piston creep.

Rotors all expand when heated, and the spokes are designed to relieve that stress so the braking surface maintains trueness. Sometimes, however, the rotor will get roasting hot and the expansion will temporarily warp the braking surface. It should, however, straighten out when the rotor returns to normal temperature. If there is a noticeable warp in the rotor, normal braking heat can quickly exaggerate that warp and you will get noise right away. The solution to both is to make sure that your rotors are true and ignore the temporary rubbing after a hard descent.

Uneven piston creep seems to be Shimano's nemesis. All brake caliper pistons ride on flexible rectangular seals. The flex action allows the piston to push on the brake pad without sliding inside the bore. When the brakes are released, the seal springs back and retracts the piston. When the brake pads wear beyond the limit of the seal's ability to stretch, the seal slides inside the bore and "self-adjusts" a little closer to the brake pad.

In a perfect world, the pistons on either side of the caliper self-adjust in equal increments, but sometimes only one side will creep towards the rotor, which quickly develops into an off-centered brake pad situation and constant rubbing. Loosen the caliper bolts. Reset your brake pistons all the way back to their stops using a plastic pad spreader (screwdrivers can crack the pistons). Put the wheel in and then pump the lever slowly until the pads clamp the rotor securely. While squeezing the lever firmly, gently tighten the caliper bolts. That should allow the pistons to find a place where they will work in harmony. Fine tune the adjustment until the brake doesn't rub and give it a test run. If only one pad moves over and the rub returns, you'll probably need to replace the caliper. - RC

Shimano 2015 Deore XT brake
Shimano XT brakes are well-known for being both powerful and reliable. That said, their caliper pistons have been known to self-adjust at uneven rates.





Increasing confidence for DH and Enduro Racing?

Question: aerosxl asks in the All-Mountain, Enduro, and Cross-Country forum: I have decided that I'd like to give enduro and DH mtb racing a try next season, and with that I'm starting to think about what equipment and training I'll need to start getting/doing. I'm fairly set on bike, gear, etc, but I was wondering if anybody could give me some help with training, especially seeing as I don't live near enough to the mountains where the races are on to make it worth training there regularly. What's the best way to get the on-the-bike confidence and skills I need without regularly riding the same types of trails I'll be racing on?


bigquotesEven if you don't have gnarly trails out your back door there are a few steps you can take to help those first races go as smoothly as possible. The first is to make sure that your base fitness is up to par. Although the actual time spent on the clock at an enduro race isn't that long, the practicing and the transfers between stages can take a toll, and it's hard to be full of confidence when you're so tired you can barely hang onto your grips. Those base miles don't need to be on super-crazy terrain either - in fact, it's probably better if they come from XC or road riding, the type of riding where you can build your lungs and legs without as much risk of injury.

Once those base miles are under your belt you'll be in an even better position to start working on building your skills in more challenging terrain. You'll also want to add in interval training to start developing the power needed out on the race course. But back to the skills training: Think about what area you feel needs the most improvement. Is it cornering? Find an awkward corner and practice riding through it multiple times until you feel like you have it dialed. See what happens when you go approach it from different angles - coming in high and exiting low, or sneaking through on an inside line. You'll start to feel faster, and over time the secrets to maintaining speed will start to unveil themselves. Having someone take a video of you can help too - that way you can see what you actually look like and assess what needs work (spoiler: unfortunately, you probably don't resemble Richie Rude as much as you think). The same goes for improving your jumping or other technical riding skills - start small, and gradually work your way into more difficult features.

Of course, attending a skills clinic or hiring a coach are great ways for riders of all abilities to become even more proficient, and if that's in your budget I'd highly recommend it. As you test the waters of racing you'll be exposed to a wide variety of terrain, and this, more than anything will help to build your confidence. If you can, get to the venue a couple days early and explore the local trails to get a feel for what to expect. It takes time, and plenty of practice, but eventually you'll be able to drop into a section of trail you've never ridden before and feel fairly confident that you can tackle just about anything that might arise. Good luck, and above all, remember to have fun. - Mike Kazimer

Thomas Lapeyrie always makes it look easy on track.
Not too many people are lucky enough to have mountains like this in their backyard, but the skills learned in grassy fields and parking lots still work here.






Bearing Replacement Tool?

Question: Pinkbike user arthurgardner asked this question via email:I have a Nukeproof Pulse Comp 2015 DH bike and I need to replace the frame and shock bearings. I have no idea what tool to buy. Help would really be appreciated.


bigquotesThis could get expensive, so if you only need to change your frame bearings once every 12 months or so, then my first piece of advice would be to pay your local bike shop to do the job for you while you sit back and relax. If you spend more time on the bike and don't mind greasy hands, then investing in the right tool for the job could pay off in the long run, saving on shop labor rates and also time to and fro the shop.

If you want to take the investment plunge, there are a number of tools on the market that should last you for many years and multiple bikes. Since you're in the UK, the Rapid Racers Press and Extraction Tool made in Blighty could be your first port of call. Prices start at 59.99 GBP for the basic tool, then 22 - 26 GBP per adaptor to match the bearing sizes on your bike. You'll also need to purchase the new bearings from a supplier like mbbearings.co.uk, which will cost 53.99 GBP.

Unior also make a Universal Bearing Press that should cover most eventualities that Mike Levy reviewed earlier this year which retails at 169.99 GBP. For the budget minded, Wheel Manufacturing's Economy Bearing Press is a good option, at only $35 USD, plus the cost of the necessary presses, although international shipping does make that less of a deal.

Finally, if saving on cash is your highest priority, and you aren't worried about potentially losing some paint from your pride and joy, then a hammer, flathead screwdriver, threaded rod and some sockets from Dad's old wrench set and will get the job done, although it's not as elegant or efficient of a solution as purchasing a dedicated bearing press. - Paul Aston



Unior bearing press review test
Investing in something like this press and extraction tool from Unior could pay off in the long term.





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  • 104 1
 Before you go replacing calipers for uneven piston movement, make sure to try cleaning and lubricating them first. Pull the pads and pump the lever a little to get the pistons to come out a bit more than normal. Clean the whole circumference of the pistons and seal really well (I use a cotton swab dipped in iso alcohol) and then very lightly lube them with whatever fluid is in your brake system (again with a cotton swab). Push the pistons back home in their bores (they will slide in super smooth now), and wipe up any excess fluid. Replace your pads and reset your brakes. This works 90% of the time and is a good idea to do at every pad replacement.
  • 10 0
 This is good PM every time you pop new pads in there, even if they're not sticking. I've had loads of brakes that don't stick start sticking because the area of the piston that was once exposed is now back in the caliper, started doing this, and my problems went away.
  • 6 0
 @wolf-amongst-lambs: that looks like a small version of my headset press!
  • 2 0
 This is excellent advice. I had some Hope 4 pots back in the day and with the 4 individual pistons per caliper they were prone to uneven piston movement. Did exactly as you've described periodically and problem solved........for a while anyway!
  • 1 1
 What to do if only 1 piston works and the other 1 stuck ?
  • 7 1
 Just be careful not to pop the piston all the way out of the caliper or you'll have rebleed the whole system. Found that one out the hard way.
  • 1 0
 good P/M for sure, but can run another oil, doesn't have to be corrosive DOT fluid or mineral oil that isn't going to help the seals as much. The same oil you use to treat fork seals will work best, but in a pinch the dot fluid, mineral oil, or even chain lube will be better than nothing.
  • 3 0
 @wikenrider: i use a pair of locking pliers to force the piston that does move well, to stay put. Then all the force of the lever pushing hydro fluid goes to the sticky piston and gets it moved out for cleaning and lubing.
  • 4 0
 Great advice! Another small thing that people don't realize is you can improve lever throw between bleeds in minutes. Simply remove your wheel and pump the brake fully once or twice (sometimes thrice). If you overshoot use a Park pp 1.2 to open them up just a bit. This works really well for Guides without contact point adjust.
  • 2 1
 This spring I rehabbed several sets of brakes that had seriously degraded performance. Most notably there was a loss of power and the levels just felt squishy. These were a set of Formula Oro K24, Shimany Saint, and XT. Remove the pads and carefully advance the pistons. On mine the some of the pistons were so stuck that only 1 would engage with lever movement. Hard to have brakes perform if they're not functioning properly. On the 4 piston Saints this was especially noticeable.

I advanced the pistons that would move, then sprayed with brake cleaner and scrubbed with an old toothbrush. There was a bunch of grimy build up, which I assume was powdered brake pad and trail dirt mixed. I then used a tire lever to retract the pistons and hold them back so sufficient pressure could build in the caliper to advance the stuck ones. In the case of the Saints I ended up cutting some custom bleed blocks out of wood since there wasn't enough room to get a tool in there to hold a pair of pistons.

Once the pistons were cleaned up, I gave another round of brake cleaner and compressed air, then lubed with 100% silicon. With a bleed, new pads, sanded and cleaned rotors, all 3 sets performed like new. I sold the Formulas so not sure how they're holding up, though the Saints have performed flawlessly all season in all conditions.

Pretty sure I referenced this article, though there might also be a Tech Tuesday somewhere about cleaning pistons. www.bikeradar.com/us/gear/article/how-to-service-hydraulic-disc-brake-calipers-video-43227
  • 8 0
 @kevmocal: Never ever use brake cleaner on shimano brakes....its ruins the piston seals. only use 99%iso alchohol. To clean shimano calipers....remove pads, pump pistons out....clean with iso and a clean rag, ie free of metal shavings, lube with mineral oil, push all the way back in...spray and wipe again. Install pads, align rotor with center of caliper passage, tighted...apply brake. If one side still rubs a bit, get a buddy to pump the brake while you push or pull the rotor towards the dominate piston...this will realign the piston.


This works with most system.
  • 1 0
 from what ive read, silicone grase is safer to lube the pistons
  • 2 0
 @xeren: Probably is safe...shimano recommends their brake mineral oil. Its probably the safest...after all its whats inside the system.
  • 6 1
 WD40 THEM ROTORS BOY
  • 1 0
 Couldn't of said it any better myself
  • 1 0
 @maxyedor:

Hell yeah! I do this once a month for good measure when I clean my brake pads....
  • 1 0
 @wikenrider: you can modify a bleed block so that it will only allow one piston side to come out at a time.

I've seen the bleed block mod on the Shimano site, I'll post it up for you when I find it!
  • 1 0
 @a-r-c: thanks for the info; don't have any 99% iso in my barn. Guess I'll add it to the tool quiver!
  • 2 0
 @kevmocal: Just put it in a spray bottle. Works great. You want the 99% stuff, you can't get high off the weaker versionsWink
  • 32 1
 Don't go buying an expensive tool or hamfisting with a hammer and screwdriver (come on PB). I made my own bearing press tool for less than $10 bucks from bits at HD. Threaded rod, a variety of washers and some nuts. Its not as convenient as having a fancy tool with handles, but come on, this is the kind of job you do once a year tops. Its not that hard. ... here, i just googled it and found a vid where some guy walks you through it

www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGfvO-ztoT4

Go forth and be resourceful.
  • 1 0
 Yup agreed. I replaced the bearings on my frame using homemade tools and just watching youtube videos. Double blind might be better left for a shop if you are uncomfortable with the process. Don't force them in. Getting the alignment perfect is the hardest part but once you do that they are a breeze to set back in (especially if you have an old set of frame bearings so the inner and outer race make the appropriate contact).
  • 3 0
 Can I ask how you got your bearings out of your frame?
  • 6 1
 a hammer and punch work pretty well. Dont worry about damaging old bearing as you're pressing new ones in anyways.
  • 5 0
 @mikecolangelo: to get an old bearing out you can 'suck' it out using a bolt, nut, washers and a socket that has an id large enough for the od of the bearing. Giant used to sell these tools. The hex end of the bolt goes on the side of the bearing towards the frame, socket on the other side. Threaded end goes through middle of socket, washer and nut to finish it off. With two wrenches, tighen the nut. The bearing will be slowly and evenly drawn out of the bore. This may damage a little bit of paint around the bore unless you put something between the socket and frame.

Only monkeys use a hammer and punch... The bearing gets cocked and you have just f*cked up your frame. The next best thing is a blind hole puller set. Uses a slide hammer. They are really cheap on ebay.
  • 9 0
 I made my press with oak circles I cut out with a hole-saw. From there, I "chuck 'em up" in a drill and use a rasp, then file in a vice to shape perfectly to whatever bearing you are working with. I even used scrap materials and goodies from my hardware stash with a total cost of NOTHING. Wooden surfaces won't hurt soft/pretty aluminium.

As for gently removing bearings, wooden dowels are your best friend. Again, you can carve the wood to perfectly fit the bearing. The most important thing to remember while carving your bearing tools is to be mindful to concentrate all the forces only on the outer race.

I made my headset remover from a broken hockey stick that I carved to make as much contact as possible. I gently tap it around with a dead-blow mallet.

These are just bearing tools you can make a home with scrap. Just because it is home-made does not mean it has to be a bodged up jurry-rigged saftey trap either, I am proud of my "Artisan Tools". Sometimes old time tech works just as nice.
  • 1 0
 @HerrDoctorSloth: @Longrider: Right on! Great information guys, thank you!
  • 1 0
 "Cup" style removers are made from the left overs from making the press arbors. The hole saw will leave you with a nice round, um hole. Simply glue & screw a piece of something ( min 1/2" ply, steel plate is ideal)to it, set the the pilot drill bit to just poke out around 1/8"/3mm past, and slowly run the hole saw through to center your pulling hole being careful not to let the hole saws teeth not to cut your backing material.
  • 1 0
 @mikecolangelo. @HerrDoctorSloth has your answer. Wooden dowels
  • 1 0
 Any tip for removing angular MAX bearings?. Hit ir for them inner race and the bearing explodes leaving the outer race in the frame. I use to take a Dremmel and carefully split it in smaller parts to remove, but for sure there is a better way.
  • 7 0
 @Pichy: When the outer race isn't exposed for wooden dowel push outs i think the easiest solution is actually buying a bearing puller. That said, you can buy the bike specific ones which will cost you an arm and a leg, OR get one from motor sports like this

www.summitracing.com/parts/ptm-pp1694r8?seid=srese1&cm_mmc=pla-google-_-shopping-_-srese1-_-pit-posse-motorsports&gclid=Cj0KEQjwt-G8BRDktsvwpPTn1PkBEiQA-MRsBfl5M2ds7YF73sJnpYK0YLno8g63tFbIm54JmGmJr9IaAj0o8P8HAQ
  • 2 0
 @a-prince: Just get the Enduro blind bearing puller, share it with your friends. The rest is as you say.
  • 1 0
 @HerrDoctorSloth: I have used different sized sockets along with threaded rod, washers and nuts to press bearings in and out.
  • 1 0
 @johannensc: The problem with a hammer and punch is that your likely to rock the bearing in its bore, ovalising the bore slightly. Not a big issue on a steel frame but Alu or Carbon won't thank you for it and leave you with a poor press fit for the replacement bearing.

Granted it works and is done all the time but it is not good practice and in extreme cases can crack the housing.

Large bearings on vehicle gearboxes mean the casings are often ruined by well meaning mechanics with a hammer and punch.
  • 2 0
 Something that work well for bearings into blind holes (not many on bikes really but wth) is the tissue paper method.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGRKqkoV4Fw

I have done it several times and it removes the bearing with minimal damage, certainly less that a slide hammer will do, the bearing can often be reused as the force is applied evenly and not just to the centre of the bearing.
  • 1 0
 @l-plates: thats nuts. Whoda thunk.
  • 12 0
 I'm still trying to get my dropper post to drop it like it's hot. any suggestions Pinkbike?
  • 17 0
 Is your dropper giving you attitude?
  • 3 0
 Are you a nice dude with nice dreams?
  • 1 0
 is the dropper made of steel that makes you feel like chinchilla in the heat?
  • 1 1
 @rocky-mtn-gman: dude i had the giant dropper that came on my reign 0 2012 and i can tell you that those are disposable, you cannot put more air into it (the schrader valve is sealed) so when they loose prssure to come back up they're done :/
  • 1 0
 Try using a torch on it before each and every ride, should do the trick! Also remove the circular spring from the wiper, carefully clean it and put some oil in there.
  • 1 0
 I wanted my dropper to drop when its cold, but it would only imitade a mr freeze
  • 2 0
 @panchocampbell: They are the best post going....$80.00 tops for a cartridge and it take no more than 20mins to change out.
  • 8 0
 This short video from Hope is worth watching. Shows how to clean, lube and centre pistons / calipers. vimeo.com/67723111
  • 6 0
 With the training, base fitness is a must and i find that best on the road just plodding along thinking more about time spent on the bike rather than km's covered. Road riding is easier to keep the intensty lowish to get those base km's in your legs. Mix it up with some higher intensity xc rides as you get fitter (or bored!) but remember recovery is just as important especially the fitter you become as your fitness will allow higher intensity for a longer period of time. Another good option for the interval type work is going to your local bmx track and smashing hard laps with specific recovery intervals. Will help skills and confidence aswell. .......remember though recovery is just as important as training itself. An undertrained athlete will be far fitter/stronger after a year than will a chronically overtrained one. Not to mention happier too.
  • 2 0
 possibly a tad drunker as well ! *cheers *
  • 7 2
 when it comes to racing, there is actually no rule that you have to do well and train heroically to achieve this. some of us just race to participate and have fun. (enduros are brilliant for this type of attitude)

little trick to finishing mid pack in amateur consistently: ride within your limits and keep it smooth like Smokey Robinson. fastest way to a last place and a ruined day is a DNF.
  • 2 0
 You have described my Enduro mantra haha, shred on.
  • 3 0
 Agree entirely - I broke my wrist trying to keep up with "sponsored" riders in a local weekend enduro race. At the time I thought I was racing in the EWS and two points off a podium. It wasn't, and I wasn't, and I earned 6 weeks off the bike for it. Now I just try to ride well and have fun, and ironically I perform much better now!
  • 4 0
 Can't convince myself to pay $100+ for a "day of fun" when I could do the same for free. If I'm gonna pay, I'm going to plan on doing well.
  • 1 0
 @skelldify: i'm not saying that i simply don't try, i do. I just don't push it to the point where i might not be able to finish the race. also, i try to do local enduros that benefit the local trail advocacy group; i'm happy to spend the money on a day of fun and to support the people that work to keep trails built, maintained, and open.

Also, for you doing well may be what makes the day fun and that's totally cool. I understand enjoying being competitive and striving to do your best, it's just not my personality type.
  • 3 0
 If you are going to take the time and money to do bearing replacement/service, it's smart to consider bearing quality. They range greatly. If you ride a lot and live in harsh climates, the higher end corrosive-resistant bearings will last way longer, work better, and save you time and money in the long run. Bike companies vary on what bearings they pop in frames. Some are good, some are cheap.
  • 3 0
 @mikelevy Have you ever heard the explanation of the XT brake rub being attributed to the cupping of the Ice Tech rotors? I did an Enduro race a few years back where I spent the day riding transfers with a product developer from Shimano, former XC WC racer from way back. He noticed that I was flicking my levers after a descent for what I thought was sticking pistons, the common cause of brake rub. He went on to explain that in the development of Ice Tech rotors, specifically the sandwich construction, Shimano found that rotors actually wore more on one side than the other with the brake pulling on one side more than the other being the brake is mounted on the side of the rotor, something that was never noticed on solid steel rotors. So in developing the Ice Tech rotors they make one side of the sandwich thicker than the other to deal with the uneven wear. When the rotors heat up and the metal expands, the different thicknesses of steel expand at different rates causing the the rotors to cup slightly causing them to rub. When the rotors cool then they magically stop rubbing. I have been using Ice Tech rotors now for a bunch of years and work in a shop in a MTB rich region and have found that the 'cupping syndrome' to be the key to many peoples issues with the dreaded XT Brake rub.
  • 5 0
 Once again, you forgot about Gravity dropper. They have a great remote that will go above or below the bar and clamps the cable at the remote.
  • 4 1
 The gravity dropper has a lot of positive attributes but that POS trigger is not one of them.
  • 3 0
 With the XT brakes I also had the same problem and found out that the m9000 now come with ceramic pistons which are very easy to break when pushing the pistons back, causing the pistons to not fully return and cause the pads to rub after a bleeding. If it sounds crunchy when pushing the pistons back that means the piston is broken. To fix it you must replace the caliper or the piston.
  • 6 3
 Or make one of the best MTB related investments you can make: take clinics after a bit of research who's good. There's a few sites offering advice on core skills and movement patterns: Betterride.net, Leelikesbikes.com. For particular skills like bunny hops and manuals you can visit Ryanleech.com. Every new comer to the sport should check out Lee's books and website, it's the bible.

Getting fit: get on a program, just don't fool yourself, there's no point training like a headless chicken, doing stuff you cannot be sure of. For 100-150$ you get a quality program from Dee Tidwell, James Wilson, or Dane Delozier at Revo. Or ask about some good local dude. If you have a work and family skip volume training and go to much more effective intervals and sprints. Never forget doing body weight and dumb bell/ kettlebell combo drills for cardio. When you ride your bike you use all of your body, not just legs and lowerr back. MOST IMPORTANTLY strength training will make your body more durable. World Cup racers would never make it to the Finals day if their bodies weren't able to withstand many crashes during the week of practice. A crash that takes out an amateur with a sore body part is a bruise for a trained body

Forget the road bike unless you really have the rest dialled.
  • 4 0
 There's no need to buy a new lever. You can run the Giant dropper trigger with the lever pointing upwards. I know many people that do this, even the mechanics in my LBS.
  • 1 0
 Exactly! I've only ever run mine under the bar, but it's a perfectly ergonomic little switch which will work either way no hassle whatsoever.
  • 1 0
 Or you can run a small cable collar (google KS cable collar) on any lever that normally would require the cable head on the lever end.
I am currently using this configuration with a Fox Transfer and the KS lever. Zero issues.
  • 1 0
 Not sure what the big deal is, but I run my dropper post lever under the bar and almost on top of my shifter for my 2x setup. If i want to raise/drop my seat post I only have to move my thumb a small distance further than the shift paddle. I find it pretty convenient and have never accidentally mixed the two up.
  • 3 0
 I have my dropper there too. Admittedly I sometimes raise my dropper instead of my front mech when transitioning from a climb to a descent. It results in brief moments of panic
  • 1 0
 I'm looking at buying a 9point8 Fall Line long stroke 200mm dropper, but note that they only come in stealth mode for frames with internal routing... Is there a way to install on my Aluminium frame without wrecking the frame? Maybe creating an exit for the routing somewhere on the underside of the crossbar? Or is this maybe just a bad idea?
  • 1 0
 In regards to remote options for the giant dropper post. I had mine working with specialized lever. I just had to use the small threaded cable stop at the end.
  • 3 0
 Can I have some stickers? Pretty please!!
  • 3 2
 XTR shifter bar remote... lightest remote you can get for any cable operated dropper post.
  • 5 0
 He needs to clamp the cable at the remote, the opposite of how a KS remote and most others work, and a shifter obviously holds onto the opposite end of the cable. I'm sure you could clamp something on there to make it work, of course, but it wouldn't be ideal. The shifter-remote setup is super sweet, though.
  • 1 0
 @mikelevy: Is there any reason a Knarp wouldn't work with any remote?

www.amazon.com/Odyssey-Knarps-Cable-Ends-Silver/dp/B0017GM1CG
  • 3 0
 @sd351:

Actually there's a better one... here's an example made by KS as it happens...

www.ebay.com/itm/KS-Kind-Cable-Clamp-AND-Set-Screw-for-LEV-LEV-DX-LEV-27-2-Post-Dropper-Seatposts-/281959920908?hash=item41a61ef50c:g:LI8AAOSwzJ5XbL9B

You can get those styles of set screw cable anchors in the perpendicular style as above in the link, and inline barrel where the cable goes lengthwise thru them and is held with a bolt that goes thru the side of the cylinder. Amp/Rockshox cable disc brakes used that type for example. Check any good fasterner supply store.
  • 1 0
 @sd351: They look larger than a cable end, and they're aligned perpendicular to the cable rather than inline like a cable end. They're not going to work for a shifter/remote conversion, but they could be a solution if you wanted to use a remote from KS etc. Wouldn't look too pretty, but it'd work.
  • 2 0
 @mikelevy: like this? www.pinkbike.com/photo/13515264
Changed the broken Gravitydropper lever with a KS one, works fine
  • 1 0
 @mikelevy: I linked the above because I used to use Knarps (SBC for life!) in my BMX days. I assumed there was the inline orientation somewhere, but was not motivated enough to look for one.
  • 1 0
 @aresiusbe: +1 on this conversion. I did this same thing with a Fox Transfer post. Works great! I imagine you could do this conversion with many levers that normally require a cable head on the lever end.

Only tweak I made on this installation: after cutting the cable I loosened the end slightly and pulled the cable so that the sharp metal cable strands are even with the end of the clamp.
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 how do I train for a DH MTB race I ride a Kona Process bike. I am also a male.
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 MB BEARINGS PRICES ARE A BLOODY RIP OFF £40 FOR BB BEARINGS I CAN GET AT A LOCAL STORE FOR £2.50 EACH
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 Stop shouting.
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 @stumpymidget: why.. work for them do you
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 On my KS supernatural the cable is clamped on the rremote.
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 No it isn't, the hell man?
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 @WAKIdesigns: yes it is.
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 @Muckal: i had one, so Neh, Eh!
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 @WAKIdesigns: oh well...take some patience.

Thanks to the neg-propers anyway.
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 @Muckal: Jesus Christ what is wrong with you... static.jensonusa.com/images/Default-Image/Zoom/5/SE260G00.jpg the cable HEAD is at the remote, the cable end is cut and tightened by a collar with 1mm allen by the dropper... Wurst, wurst, wurst...
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 @WAKIdesigns: just wait for it.
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 @Muckal: is it possible this remote can be hooked up either way? I owned one and it was done like waki said, with cable head in the hole clearly visible in your first picture. However, the other picture does look like maybe it can be done your way. But how is it secured? I see no grub screw.
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 @stumpymidget:

Though i'd love Waki to explain it, i will not let you down.
The post i have is the I-beam version. I can't see a way how to mount the cable the other way round.
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 @stumpymidget: the remote has a M4 thread inside the hole in the first picture for the clamping screw.
Here the cable is routed through the posts head from the front side and sealed with a Black plastic cap (hardly visible in the picture, sorry). It exits the head at the back and gets clamped into the remote.

However, i have no idea about the part number of the remote. Maybe Waki knows.
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 @Muckal: ok, cool, it sounds like there maybe 2 models as a quick google image search show all the ks remotes with the cable head at the remote end.
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 ooops double post
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 @WAKIdesigns: mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm wurst Smile
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 But majority of PB users claim that Shimano XTs are immaculate...
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 No, they don't claim that XTs are perfect, just better than the other brakes on the market. In some cases that is not so hard to achieve..
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 I have not yet had issues with pistons sticking on no fewer than four sets of current design Shimano's. XT, SLX, XTR, Saint, all ok. Still firmly in the Shimano camp. Wink
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 @DARKSTAR63: i had. With 3 Sets. Only 2010 saints were absolutely faultless
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 @WAKIdesigns: So far so good. My favorite the XTR trail (m988 ) and Saints due to modulation.
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 They work fine, but after long descents in hot weather, bite point seems to drift...
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 @TheHill: Bleed. I experience this too if they have not been bled in awhile. I bleed them three to four times a year.
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 Thompson clamps at the remote, not the post.
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 Thomsons externally routed dropper is the other way round.
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 @stumpymidget: so it does! Well then I guess if he is looking for options, know that you want the internal switch.
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 Make sure it's a Metric sized Hammer, the old imperial ones are junk now
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 Ill do any job on a bike but I wont touch bearings.
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 - Meatloaf
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 @mj0: baaaahahahahahahahaha
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 @mj0: QOTD
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 @mj0: glad someone else's mind immediately went in the same perverse direction
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 Easy to change, one of the first jobs I did on my fully, much easier than trying to overhaul a reverb...







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