Banshee Scythe - Built for burl and hurl

Aug 22, 2008
by Tyler Maine  
Source: Ryan Kuhn

Midway through the 2008 season, the DH race beast sunk its fangs deep into my blood. I suddenly had a burning desire to get on the track as much and as soon as possible. However, the limiting factor was I had dumped all my cash early in the season on a new “all mountain” ride more apt to the single track of my hometown of Rossland, B.C.In order to fix my craving, drastic measures were called for. I decided the only option was to delve into the line-of-credit (all-mountain bike for sale…anyone?) to build a race-capable bike, along with a little help from my friends. However, I had a few prerequisites: I wanted to keep it local (as in a B.C./Pacific Northwest company), simple and sturdy enough to handle the day-to-day abuse freeriding in the Kootenays of British Columbia. This is in addition to the performance necessary of a competitive race machine.

Here’s what my debt built:

Frame:

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Banshee Scythe – If you haven’t checked out Banshee (bansheebikes.com) in a while, you’re in for a big surprise. Under new ownership and with a list of new designs, Banshee is poised to claw back some of the North Shore/freeride market of which it once played a more dominate role. Synonymous with being very beefy, the older Banshee models such as the Scream were gradually becoming relegated to the sidelines as riders of today demand lighter weight and performance in addition to durability.

Banshee design engineer Keith Scott (and co-owner with Jay MacNeil) recognized this trend as he was an avid North Shore rider himself. He developed the Scythe as the bike he wanted to ride with same characteristics I was looking for – durable, light, no-fuss and race potential due to the geometry’s adjustability and light weight. If you want to see Scythe’s sexy new race sibling, check out the Legend Mk1 at http://www.bansheebikes.blogspot.com/.

The Scythe is adjustable from 7” to 8” of rear wheel travel, with two shock settings in each for downhill and freeride applications (the latter having a higher bb and steeper head angle). The linkage is a simple but stiff faux-bar (effectively a single pivot with the rear pivot point on the seat stay) linkage with a full compliment of sealed bearings handling the pivot points. The head tube is 1.5” and most of the tubing is hydro-formed with gusseting seamlessly melded into the frame. I received the small size in the finely finished anodized grey. It came with a Fox DHX 5.0 coil shock, spare bearing/bushing parts, seat post and a 12mm Maxle rear axle – a nice touch.

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Fork:

2008 Fox 40r – with rebound and compression cartridge installed. The Fox 40 is one of two truly competitive racing forks for the mass market (the other being the Boxxer World Cup). I got a great deal on the 40r from Revolution Cycles and Service (revolutioncycles.ca) and ordered the rebound/compression upgrade cartridge. With a remarkably simple swap, the budget model was transformed into the high-end model.

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Other bits:

Brakes: I’m waiting on a set of the Formula Ones, but in the meantime my old Hayes Stroker Trails (see previous review) are keeping things in line. While not really a race brake by any means, I am still impressed by the Hayes feel and adjustability.

Wheels: I am pleased with my Mavic 823 UST rims, so they earned their spot on this build. I laced them to pewter Chris King 20mm front hub and a new Hadley 150mm rear hub, joined by DT Swiss spokes. Finally, to keep things rolling fast yet versatile for the sloppier stuff, I put 2.5 Maxxis Minion UST front-specific tires on both wheels.

Drive Train: up front, sturdy Shimano Saint cranks with Shimano PD-MX30 pedals turn a versatile 36-tooth chain ring encased in a Gamut P30 (ISCG05 compatible) chain guide. This is my first experience with Gamut, but its light weight, simplicity and clean lines are impressive. In the rear, a SRAM 9.0 short cage derailleur gets the duty, along with a SRAM racing (corn cob) race cassette, linked by a SRAM chain.

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Topping it off: Ole faithful ODI Ruffian Grips grab an oversized Chromag FUBAR zero rise bar (28” wide) with a stylish Chromag Cutblock 002 stem and an X9 shifter. I opted for a light WTB Thinline saddle.

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Final spec: Fully built, the Scythe comes in at a respectable 39.5 lbs. – light as a freeride bike that is race capable. And on top of that, it’s a made-in-BC head-turner, especially in the durable stealth grey ano and matching bits.

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Up Next: I’ll be riding this in several races to finish off the season, just finished the Crankworx events and heading to Sun Peaks, as well as the many new trails we’re digging in the Koots. Stay tuned for a full review of the Scythe this fall.

Happy Trails!

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64 Comments
  • 5 1
 That broken Scyhte is the only one to have broken, and has already been warrantied I believe. It only snapped because the Chainstay was not heat treated properly, and the heat affected zone near the weld created a weakness in the material. The chainstay assembly is actually almost identical to a 2007 Chaparral in terms of how it is welded together, and none of them failed this way either. so just a one off mistake by the factory. Once again applogies to michalak.
  • 8 2
 looks like it will be the best banshee model ever.
  • 8 2
 yea but what is that straight bar doing on that bike?
  • 4 2
 my guess is he likes a low bar height...i could be wrong though.
  • 4 2
 straighter/lower bar = better for DH. Come on, I only dirtjump and BMX and I know that Razz
  • 3 3
 hey it looks like banshee engineers figured out how to build a turner highline.
  • 1 0
 Ive seen broken Scythes on videos ( www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AwqSbJtJlc ), Ive also heared about them. They break at the chainstay. Its too light.
I love that geometry, 36-39cm high BB, optional coil setting, single pivot-like etc, but Im afraid its weak. Its not the bike you want to huck great distances and land hard. But there are stronger frames with lower BBs, like Morewood. I know that all bikes can break, but Its clear that this light-bike-fashion wont work at freeride bikes.

I think Morewood Izimu is similar, it has a 36.3+/-0.7 cm high BB (so it can reach 37) with adjustable geometry (also the excentric pivot setting affects on chainstay length and seat/hedtube angles).
Im not saying you shouldnt buy it, I just gave an other tip. Im not sure about the price, but It looks more strong.
  • 4 1
 For me the frame looks like a good basis for a gearbox-bike. Look at the bottombracket-area, there is so much space and it is a single-pivot
  • 3 12
flag audeo03 FL (Aug 22, 2008 at 7:29) (Below Threshold)
 Not a single pivot...
  • 3 1
 its a faux bar, so it's rear wheel path acts exactly like a single pivot
  • 1 0
 Hey Keith, it's combatkimura (Sean) from mtbr. I can't tell you how much I'm drooling over this frame. It's all business man. Love it! I'll most likely be on one next year if I can get decent money for my Blindside. I love the CNC details on the rear dropouts, great work there.
  • 0 0
 are they banshee in the uk again now or mythic still? caus there was some dispute with halfords over the name banshee as they sell a bike called a carrera banshee and they demanded that (at the time) banshee change there name to something else in court i believe.....this still the case or is banshee back with a vengeance?
  • 0 0
 Banshee sells under Mythic in the UK due to Halfords.
  • 0 0
 those chainstays look really long, like a transition blindside. the sicklines review of the blindside says they're flexy. any noticable flex in the banshee? if not, how is this if the blindside does? all-in-all, sweet looking ride!
  • 0 0
 I believe all Banshees have ribbed chain and seat stays making them very stiff in the back end. This is the case with my Wildcard, which i love.
  • 0 0
 As is also the case with my Wildcard, which as it happens, I also love. Banshee is back, baby!!
  • 3 1
 Banshee bikes are fabricated in Taiwan as I understand it. Designed in Canada/PNW, but made overseas.
  • 1 1
 Love the new designed they are coming out with , pivots, etc. I'd like to try a pyre.
  • 2 2
 Check out my Pyre. 31 lbs that can handle everything.

www.pinkbike.com/photo/2330844
  • 0 0
 Here's my Pyre,love it, hardly ride my Nomad anymore...

www.pinkbike.com/photo/2347754
  • 0 0
 buddy, don't get those Formula One... They suck big time! Stick to Avid Elixir CR or Juicy Carbon.. both on 203 front and 7 inches rear. (stay away from Juicy Ultimate tho..)

Just my 2 cents.
  • 0 0
 My Formula Ones are fantastic, way better than any Juicy I've owned/tried.
Have you already tried the Elixers? There aren't many around yet...
  • 0 1
 I must say i love my scythe First day i got it i threw all my parts on it it comes in at 41LBS and rides like a dream absorbes the big hits with ease yet takes the quick chunder with suprisingly good stability corners amazing and the rear end is so stiff its not even funny. all in all the best bike ive owned. and my happy new replacement of my old banshee chapparal Btw nice set up man hoping to get a bit nicer on my ride for next season
  • 3 1
 that is a tough as hell bike. but i dream about the 2009 legend. sexy.
  • 1 0
 fox 40's, banshee frame, king headset?thats you building on a budget? shit man, whats u dream ride spec?
  • 0 0
 the straight h/bar is more for DH race..keeps you lower for more aerodynamic stuff and also lets you put down more weight on the front end for traction i think
  • 2 1
 you said you where stuck for money..
look at the spec :S
  • 1 1
 wait till you see my banshee! beats this one anyday! i will post it up as soon as it arives at my door!
  • 1 1
 I rode a Scythe set up that the Banshee rep had. That is one sweet ride man!
  • 9 8
 yeah, but my friend has one and brake it at month
  • 3 2
 Thats perty light with that setup
  • 2 2
 You're right - it should have read 39.5lbs - I've asked Brule to correct it in the story.
  • 2 1
 Fixed it for ya buddy. Nice machine.
  • 1 0
 I look forward to trying to keep up to you Ryan! Nice set up.
  • 1 0
 thats really nice- best banshee yet.
  • 1 1
 wow really sick but iagree with one of htet comments there getting to crass counrty with all this light stuff
  • 1 0
 wow thats sick my friend want to sell his sunday day and get that thing
  • 1 1
 looks good but could do with different h/bars
  • 0 0
 it looks alot lighter then 39 pounds
  • 0 0
 I love my Scythe and Rune. Thanks Jay
  • 0 1
 Never said how much he spent
  • 1 2
 k, sry about that xc pedals^^ but the rest is true
  • 1 1
 Go Rory go!
  • 0 2
 i really wish it was that simple to built up a bike that sick for me. it would take me a year. i love the build.
  • 2 4
 how that qualifys as a single pivot i don't know but it does look very nice
  • 1 3
 Looks very similar to a Wilson, except the wilson is a Horst-Link and this is a Faux-Bar Single Pivot.
  • 1 3
 Wow, Banshee has changed from the days of heavy beefed up bikes. Looks like a weak frame.
  • 0 0
 niicccceeee
  • 0 2
 whats with the strait bar, looks like its from a ccm.
  • 0 2
 that is like an exact copy of the transition gran mal.
  • 10 13
 i like it but im just not a fan of bikes with a straight toptube i know there nice and simplistic ... just sumthin bout em
  • 10 6
 curved top tubes make them look like girl bikes
  • 1 2
 no-rise bars???
  • 3 2
 ya why no raised bars it looks odd with strait ones
  • 1 0
 Keeps you lower in the cockpit/front - I'm not a tall guy so don't need the rise. Agreed it looks odd at first, but I'm getting used to it. It's comfortable and has a good sweep. Riser bars do just that - raise you up.
  • 4 2
 bent top tubes for bent riders Razz
  • 2 4
 Wow looks a lot like a Devinci- got to go with what works I suppose
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