e*thirteen Prototype SRS+ 32 chain guide - Sea Otter Day 4

Apr 17, 2011 at 12:41
Apr 17, 2011
by Mike Levy
 
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Originally built as prototypes for Team Monster Energy - Specialized riders and their unique six speed compact drive system, the SRS+ 32 guide will now hit production before mid Summer.<br><br><span style='font-size:19px'>e*thirteen SRS+ 32 details</span<br><br>- Brand new SRS+ guide to fit 32 tooth rings<br>- Uses a new back plate designed to better suit 32 tooth rings<br>- Fixed lower roller position<br>- New 32 tooth TurboCharger bash guard (<i>will be available separately</i>)<br>- Price: TBA
Originally built as prototypes for Team Monster Energy - Specialized riders and their unique six speed compact drive system, the SRS+ 32 guide will now hit production before mid Summer.

e*thirteen SRS+ 32 details
- Brand new SRS+ guide to fit 32 tooth rings
- Uses a new back plate designed to better suit 32 tooth rings
- Fixed lower roller position
- New 32 tooth TurboCharger bash guard (will be available separately)
- Price: TBA


You've probably seen our coverage of Team Monster Energy - Specialized's unique 6 speed gearing and 9 tooth cog that allows Sam, Brendan and Troy to run smaller than average chain rings and bash guards, but a lot of readers were still curious about what chain guide setup they were using. It turns out that team sponsor Specialized Bikes had made the them a number of custom guides that used smaller diameter guards to give the bikes more ground clearance, combined with a more compact and non-adjustable back plate. The result was a very specific type of chain guide that was suited well to the team's 1x6 cassette and small 9 tooth cog combination. e*thirteen was well aware that not just team riders would like the system though, so expect the new SRS+ 32 to hit the production line by mid Summer.


The SRS+ 32 is a very specific type of guide that is designed to work with just 32 tooth rings, and because of this its lower roller is now fixed in one position, unlike their other adjustable models. This makes the guide more compact for better clearance, simpler and lighter.
The SRS+ 32 is a very specific type of guide that is designed to work with just 32 tooth rings, and because of this its lower roller is now fixed in one position, unlike their other adjustable models. This makes the guide more compact for better clearance, simpler and lighter.


Many riders out there currently use a single 32 tooth ring combined with a standard SRS+ guide, but the new SRS+ 32 is a lighter and simpler option that gives the bike more ground clearance - something that many of us will appreciate. Let's hear what you think about e*thirteen's new compact guide - put those thoughts down below!

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51 Comments

  • + 24
flag bikeddict (Apr 17, 2011 at 12:48)
 is it just me or does all that honeycomb look like it will fill up wit dirt on the first muddy ride and then you'll have a bloody heavy guide?
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flag dirteveryday (Apr 17, 2011 at 12:52)
 Exactly.
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flag dieharddawg24 (Apr 17, 2011 at 13:50)
 I don't know how that would happen unless you crash on your drive side. If so, clean your bike after the ride.
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flag dirteveryday (Apr 17, 2011 at 14:37)
 When it's TRULY muddy that shiz goes everywhere. It flies off your legs, the cranks wipe it off, pedals scoop it up, drag a foot on a slippery corner and the goo gets wiped off on your crank, chainstay, guide, etc, etc! Watch some of the DH pics from the muddy WC races and checkout Gee's or Sam's(seemingly the two most photograghed riders) bikes, see where all that crap builds up. I bet even a well-mudproofed bike packs on 5-6 pounds of mud by the time it hits the finish.
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flag Antron (Apr 17, 2011 at 14:59)
 Watch videos from the 2010 WC race in Champery, this thing would be caked before half a run could be completed.
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flag Antron (Apr 17, 2011 at 15:01)
 This would be cool if the 7speed setup became widely used and affordable. I appreciate more ground clearance.
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flag nik-h (Apr 17, 2011 at 15:07)
 Riding through the winter in the north of Enland gives me a pretty good idea about this sort of thing. I've got one of the 36 tooth ones and it doesn't really get any more clogged up than a normal bash as the honeycomb is on the outside where it makes very little difference. Bear in mind as well that these E-13 bash guards are light for how strong they are, which is all down to the honeycomb. They take way bigger impacts than a solid Gammut ring which is around abouts the same weight.......
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flag dirteveryday (Apr 17, 2011 at 15:12)
 Im with you. Spend less time trying to find the right gear, would love to see a 7spd cassette "kit" developed. A box of gears and spacers so you can tune your gearing to what you need.
You could probably get away with 4.... a start gear for starts/crashes and any flat/uphill sections, 2 for intermediate sections, and your high speed gear. Not like we have to keep cadence on a track, and not too worried about optimum heart rates!
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flag cikudh (Apr 17, 2011 at 17:33)
 i would prefer a thru-hole honeycomb , just like tioga spider saddle.. its a lot easier to clean , and dirt will less stuck there
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flag philw86 (Apr 17, 2011 at 18:13)
 The original prototype Turbocharger had some complete cutout parts...5 minutes of testing proved that it wasn't the greatest idea. The added rigidity from the 1-2mm of material between the pockets is essential to the structure. Realistically, the amount of mud that gathers there and actually stays is extremely minimal given how much mud is likely on your rig. The 32T specific guide is a nice option for people with super low slung frames (DH race, Trail, etc) who just want to maximize ground clearance.
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flag jspill (Apr 18, 2011 at 15:56)
 Hmmmm, here is a thought. If you are concerned with mud gettng caked in the "honeycombs," you might want to consider NOT riding in mud. Duh. For people like me, who rarely have to ride in MUD, this product would be extremely dialed. However, for those of you in Canada or the UK may want to consider annother option since your riding conditions are more prone to mud. Just a thought. New product innovation always exites me because it means our sport is progessing. Maybe lighter/faster parts are not your thing, but for me, I like to go fast and I like to know that I can trust my parts. Sure, a lot of new and shiny parts are crap, but that is how we learn. If we do not redesign and re-think the way our parts are made, how can we expect for future parts to be any better than what is currently on the market. It's pure logic. Ok I'm going to step off my soapbox now. Go Ride!
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flag californiadh (Apr 18, 2011 at 17:41)
 why does everyone care so much about dirt on a bashguard. its a downhill bike. get over it
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flag dirteveryday (Apr 17, 2011 at 13:00)
 YAY! ANOTHER pointless gimmick to sell more parts. This will be a REVOLUTIONARY product. Finally something to eliminate all those useless, annoying adjustable guides out there! EVERY bike on the trail has upper guide plates flopping around and lower rollers are falling off bikes and wont stay in place... (roll eyes)

Whatever. The bike industry is becoming its own inside joke.
  • + 3
flag dirteveryday (Apr 17, 2011 at 13:05)
 What the hell ever happened to the most simple guide on the planet: A carbon boomerang with two rollers, done. Weighs less than a barend cap and does the job!
Someone wants to make something useful, make one-piece, molded guides that are similar to the Straitline Silent Guide with NO moving parts, but also no bolts, nuts, sleeves, etc. And make em cheap so they can be replaced after several hits since the $45+ tacos/ring guards have to be anyway.
  • + 12
flag spiffy (Apr 17, 2011 at 13:06)
 I've had guides from pretty much every company over the last 10 years and my guides never flop around. Then again, I do look after my bike... Maybe that's your issue? I don't like hype as much as anyone, but this is another option for riders that has less to go wrong with it. More options = better for riders. Don't like it or don't need it? Don't buy it!
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flag WAKIdesigns (Apr 17, 2011 at 13:12)
 if you ask me, taco solution like MRP G2 is the best ever for single ring CG. It does not need to get better, it's perfect as it is these days. However I have no idea why does it cost so much. It's not even worth the half price... but at the same time as you guys say, production-wise the simplicity of a boomerang and two rollers is unbeatable...

spiffy: too much options is not good for riders. It is not good for any human beeing. It is also not good for the company itself. Most psychologists and economists know that. However marketing guys, salesmen and product designers have big trouble with understanding that... you would get it if you would think for a while whether it is good to have 3 options or 30. How much your expectations grow equally to risk of dissatisfaction...
  • + 3
flag tetonlarry (Apr 17, 2011 at 13:13)
 Spiffy; you clearly didn't catch the sarcasm of dirteveryday's comment. I think you should read it again, and maybe retract your statement about his bike maintenance habits...
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flag spiffy (Apr 17, 2011 at 13:15)
 @tetonlarry, That is true.. sorry!
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flag dirteveryday (Apr 17, 2011 at 13:18)
 Thanks, Tetonlarry...yes, pure sarcasm in that. To me it seems like the industry is currently approaching a desparate point where it's reached it's max potential and is now just getting ridiculous trying to stay on top of an industry they should proabably just be thankful they even exist in at all!
Hell, the whole world is at that point right now, anyone seen an ORIGINAL movie lately?? EVERYTHING has been done, redone, and then hashed into pathetic bits of repetitiveness.

I.....AM......BORED.
  • + 1
flag DanB25 (Apr 17, 2011 at 15:30)
 WAKI I and 2 other people I know have bent chainguide tabs using tacos, mine are so bad that neither I nor my LBS can get the backplate off the frame, next time its deffo an SRS for me. Plus the weight difference is about 50 grams now, was a lot more before the current gen

and dirteveryday I think the new 9 tooth cassette based systems could be good, its grams off the bike at no extra cost (if anything cheaper as less metal is being used) and more BB clearance. Not revolutionary but still a great idea
  • + 0
flag dirteveryday (Apr 17, 2011 at 15:53)
 Im not knocking the 9t thing. I get it and I like the idea, even knowing that it wont be "affordable" meaning for the price, 96% of us can live without it and be just fine. The other 4% who'd use every ounce of it are out riding and not posting opinions on Pinkbike like us!
So far the 9t cassette/gear is hub/wheel specific, is it not? Can't remember for sure, but isn't it DT Swiss specific? I keep thinking Hope was coming out with or still working on a one or two piece cassette with a 9t cog.

But the guide itself is silly. It's simply a smaller guide, which they already have out. I have a 30t on my dj bike and a 32 on my XC/trail bike. And the super simple boomerang w/rollers and a decent, light bashring are all that's needed, never let me down yet! I run an MRP G2 on my TR450 and while I love it and it's NEVER let me down, it still really could be simpler! I've been debating running a boomerang style on it as well, but dont feel like answering the questions about it every day...my other bikes are clunkers, so people just think it's what I had sitting around.
  • + 2
flag turningisfun (Apr 17, 2011 at 16:10)
 what are you bored of? riding your bike?
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flag dirteveryday (Apr 17, 2011 at 16:15)
 No, bored of bland products and waiting on a new wheel that was supposed to arrive yesterday if it wasn't for the freak snowstorm we just had saying I wouldn't get to ride today anyway. Bored.
  • + 1
flag turningisfun (Apr 18, 2011 at 4:22)
 all goods, i'm still riding my kona hardtail dirt jump bike that i bought when i was 14, ride it for everything except DH races, its a bit too small but i love it i'll never be bored of it, who cares if the products pointless or is boring the companies wouldnt make them if someone didnt want them
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flag socalshreder (Apr 17, 2011 at 16:30)
 Isnt that the idea of marketing lol.? Saying your product is the best and most inovative. It looks nice and really light. Good job
E-13. I have a E-13 guide comming in the mail never ran there product. Ive ran a truvativ box guide and never had anything go wrong with that one.
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flag DARKSTAR63 (Apr 18, 2011 at 7:17)
 I would buy one. I run nothing but 32 on my trailbike, so it would suit my needs and I dont see the "mud caking" as an issue. If and when my LG1+ has had enough Ill consider one.
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flag scratchypoo (Apr 17, 2011 at 20:42)
 Wasn't there a prototype of this at Interbike a couple years ago? Either way it replaces an existing guide in e13's line, the 32 Special that has been out for years. Looks dope to me. Light, strong, e13 quality, USA made, what the heck else do you want:?
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flag Maverickdh00 (Apr 17, 2011 at 16:07)
 Now we just need 7psd setup that Sam and the boys are running, I see this a good option to start on a single speed, or possibly single ring setup on a trail bike if ya that weak in the legs, I usually run a 36 sr up front 11/32 rear or soon to be new 11/36t and may go 37t front.

But if I remember rightly the cassette body needed to be modified to run Sam & Specialised 9t 7 spd setup as a 9t ring won't fit on a std cassette body!

Not a major if the cassette body can be replaced, still more cost to get up and running, then will all hub manufactures do this or as usual wit the MTB world we need buy complete new wheels to run something most of us knew was better anyhoo years ago for DH less is more and close ratio!

I like the idea and the concept so will be interesting to see how this plays out, and see weather we get raped again or something simple and beneficial is brought to market in combo with e13s SRS 32!

Chicken or the Egg? e13 have stepped up?
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flag mtbsuffolk (Apr 17, 2011 at 14:42)
 the bash guard looks a lot nicer than the simular ones they have out at the moment, and when we get the 9 t available i think the system could work well. not sure if i will replace my LG1+ what if your hittin dh for a week you would probably want to swap that 32 for 36t not that flexible.
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flag sireatshitalot (Apr 17, 2011 at 18:51)
 This will go great on my sx trail. Been running a 32 tooth for a while now (it doubles as a all mountain ride).
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flag ORgrown420 (Apr 17, 2011 at 12:46)
 pretty cool, I was hoping that this chainguide would come out, Now just gotta save for the whole 9 tooth hub cassette chainguide combo
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flag trekbro (Apr 17, 2011 at 19:54)
 e13 best chain retention/protection system in the market!!!
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flag J-Carmichael (Apr 17, 2011 at 12:49)
 I can barely pedal as it is with a 36 tooth ring in front and 11t cog on my cassette, they have to come out with the 9 tooth cog for it to be an option for me.
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flag VTwintips (Apr 17, 2011 at 12:50)
 36 11 is like 3.5 to 1 option... you have to be going pretty fast.
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flag tetonlarry (Apr 17, 2011 at 13:09)
 Actually, I find that 36 11 is definitely not always enough at medium to extra fast speeds. At the same time, there is no way in hell that I am going to run a front derailleur or a larger front chainring. I am really hoping the new trend of less gears catches on. 6 speeds, and a 9 tooth rear cog is exactly what I would run if it was ready for the public now.
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flag shishka (Apr 17, 2011 at 21:43)
 great this won't hit production til mid summer so it won't be available til next year so I guess i won't be considering this for any of my bikes
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flag allenrotstein (Apr 17, 2011 at 15:23)
 I've been running a 36 ring with a 11-23 Dura ace cassete for a long time now... Nothing beats it!
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flag mtbr15 (Apr 17, 2011 at 13:13)
 i have the same one as this and it doesnt fill up with dirt and it is realy light.
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flag spaced (Apr 17, 2011 at 12:49)
 Is it me or does the backplate look thicker than the standard one?
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flag MCsession7 (Apr 17, 2011 at 13:25)
 Weren't team specialized, using 30 & 31 tooth chainrings?
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flag neallynberg (Apr 18, 2011 at 22:10)
 i need one my old one is so old
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flag JRoe (Apr 18, 2011 at 3:25)
 I'm sure the athertons run these now instead of the lg1
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flag djbagines (Apr 17, 2011 at 12:43)
 Look's nice, any idea on price?
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flag PlumStick13-Magnus (Apr 19, 2011 at 9:56)
 i just used a normal srs but brought a 32t bash guard. so the point in this is?
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flag king-biker (Apr 17, 2011 at 12:46)
 looks dirty with the black and gold!!!
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flag alexmoss (May 11, 2011 at 12:59)
 when will this be available in the uk. i want one on my demo!
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flag lurchh (Apr 17, 2011 at 12:43)
 lovin the gold and black
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flag neallynberg (Apr 25, 2011 at 21:30)
 how much
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flag akirizu Plus (Apr 17, 2011 at 12:59)
 Nice.
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flag seraph (Apr 17, 2011 at 20:28)
 Props to The Hive! Local reppin'.
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flag foxmtbing (Apr 17, 2011 at 14:53)
 Talk about pointless
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