Such a legend that has done so much for the sport. Will be a sad day when he retires from racing but the legacy he leaves behind him is epic, and no doubt we will be seeing him around the biking community for years to come! #peatyforpresident
If you're just an average mountain biker who still needs to work for a living and can only ride on weekends, I think enduro is the best option to look at. Because not everyone can join a real downhill race (and when I say "real" it is really as technical and demanding as it can be for a normal rider). I understand Peaty for smashing the enduro format and that is his own opinion as a pro athlete. But if you ask the normal mountain bikers who just wants to ride their bikes and be competitive at some point, I think enduro is the best option that they have. PEACE!
Even without wanting to be competitive. Don't get me wrong, I love lifts, but my favourite trails are those you can ride up and down, having fun all the way and "enduro" bikes allow that.
People are taking the comment about Enduro out of context.
He isn't saying he doesn't like Enduro riding, he is saying that due to certain factors the sport of 'Enduro' does not seem to be a professional sport due to the cheating etc.
The whole week early practice thing really doesn't happen as much in DH - Some races are thousands of miles away from each other and only a weekend apart and its a single run with several days practice so the gains of practicing in this way are reduced.
Enduro however - turn up a week early with your 'team' - scout out potential routes (or get back hand info) and dial your bike setup for the areas terrain. This and the whole 'Enduro' line choices we have seen in the past.
Who was the rider that got fined / DQ'd for getting help with uplifts before?
Peats right - until Enduro has a set of rules that don't differ from series to series and guidelines to prevent this form of cheating how professional can it be?
I think the point you're making is exactly what Peaty is trying to say. Endure is an awesome way to spend a weekend, it's just not properly developed as a professional sport. He's criticising the rules & regulations, not so much the joy of riding.
I disagree. In downhill you can practice as much as you like. Many of the tracks are open for months in a year. At a World Cup level you get 2 days when you can ride the course as much as you like as often as you like. Thats a lot of practice. You don't get that in enduro, yes you can go there early and practice but the reality is you won't get to practice the route
There's very few of the tracks that are open for long chrismac70... Quite a few are just built for the race and then are just left to rot after the race (Meribel, Val D'sere...). Of the established tracks, most of them have new sections built and remodelled for the race so you can't practice on them for long... Plus during a race weekend there isn't actually that much time each racer gets to practice.
also in general enduro is a bit more fitness circled in the contests and maybe as a general hobbie. plus in the races more cheating might start to happen like in road cycling where the fitness levels are such a key point that performance enhancing drugs start to come into play.
A man who loves his bikes (the DH sled especially), I think we can all agree with that. Peaty you are a legend never stop shredding! Best of luck this coming year
"For me, Enduro is a weird one. I don't think it's a good professional sport. I think the guys... There's a lot of cheating that goes on... The guys go up (at the venues) and live there for weeks at a time."
Why wouldn't they just post the routes weeks/months in advance so it's not "cheating"???? Why? Why not? I don't understand this....? Who cares?! If you're racing DH in _____ resort in _____ area on ______ trail who cares?!?!?!?!?!!!
Because majority of the people who compete in these races also have other jobs (either during the season or purely during the off season), the don't necessarily have the time or money to be living in the region for months at a time like some of the top pro's which creates an even bigger gap between those who have established themselves in the sport and those who haven't at that point, making it harder to get there.
IMHO, yes, it's fun but at the same time a weird and ridiculous sport. I think Enduro will one day accepts E-bikes bcos if the climbs aren't timed, why push the bikes? Call it E-duro. Time the climb, make it the extreme end of XC.
I think a lot of it stems from the format being so loosely defined. And when you try to enforce some of the original goals of the format, it becomes very difficult to enforce. One of the most constant theme however is to make it an even playing field for everyone, by having the segments be unannounced, so the practice times are as equal as possible. Some of the races do not allow any trail inspection or practice, with the goal that everyone is essentially riding it for the first time and completely leveling the playing field. He's just saying the format doesn't quite work out equally for the professional because of those inherent restrictions in time, and the actual rules of the format. As a grassroots style race with friends, it can work well. But once its a professional field it becomes quite difficult to uphold the original intentions of the format, which is equal playing field via unannounced/unseen/unpracticed segments. In WC DH, they are often building some portion of the track brand new, so the riders are seeing it for the first time and all have equal exposure to it. They are also all traveling on the same schedule, so they cant just go live at some faraway track for a few weeks, especially considering that the track is probably not even open for riding. DH tracks are also relatively short and controllable, where Enduro can take place across a huge region, where you cannot effectively enforce a trail closure or build miles and miles of brand new unseen singletrack.
Exactly what I said above, with current format of Enduro it cant be considered to be a 'professional' sporting event due to the ability to gain advantages and bend rules to your benefit.
I see the reasoning, but in my opinion the idea backfired. The advantage goes to the guy who can take two weeks off and ride that whole area. If the trails were open, unchanging, and announced a month in advance, racers could make better use of a long weekend. That's all I'm saying...
Let's not rant about Enduro on Steve's interview. It's disrespectful. Best of luck this year! I'm looking forward to you crushing it!
Of course Peaty has a point, but DH pre-official-practice pro team antics are well known too. I guess Peaty wouldn't feel confortable pushing/accelerating for more than 30 secs and riding a varied technical track for more than 8 mins (Enduro)
Rule no1 of celebrity self promotion: make outrageous statements. Rule no1 for people arguing: is the subject of discussion affecting your well being - YES> kill people NO>lower your tone, that involves both the rage and the intellectual elaboration of arguments. That house of his is huuuge - he has a decent wage, or his wife is a dentist, banker or a lawyer. They may have killed the previous owners, check those pump track rollers. Day walkers. Santa Cruz V.10cc is his favorite bike - he is biased. Mark Anthony is releasing a new album in March.
What he says is exactly the issue that I have with enduro. I have raced in about 6 enduro races and organised about 6 and have never been satisfied with how it has worked out. XC and DH I always have felt give me a reflection of my performance, EN not at all.
That said, it is fun going for a fang.
Is it sad that I googled the pub in the credits at the end so I could go for a pint and wait in the hope that peaty rolls through the doors I can share a pint with the big man?
Everything evolves in time. Enduro will evolve. What I think is absolutely ridiculous is that DH is still not an Olympic sport. They could absolutely make it work. Almost every host country has venues. Even if they are 2 to 3 hours outside of the host city, it's doable. Viewership would be insane. I wish we could all push for this more, rather than arguing amongst ourselves about wheel size and which riding format makes one more manly. On a worldwide level, there a many of us. We could be a huge voice.
Thank you Peaty for all that you continue to do for our sport!
Peaty your an absolute legend of downhill, you gave me the best sporting moment of my life (Fort William winner 2005) Cheating eh ! so if going by what Peaty says the riders that live at the trail for a month should be the obvious winners / podium guys right, hhhhhmmmm, going with that ethos, he should have won Fort William w/c more than just the once then, i mean it's his home world cup track so he has an advantage right, sorry big man i can't agree, there's more than one factor to being at the top of the EWS and living near one for a month just isn't a guarantee to having an advantage, for instance i entered an enduro last year, on trails i ride all the time and i was 12 from 15 in my category. I suck haha What's his motive for saying this i wonder ?
Exactly how I interpreted it as well. Its very difficult or impossible to keep it fair and constant at the professional level when you try to uphold the original intentions and goals of the format.
He isn't saying he doesn't like Enduro riding, he is saying that due to certain factors the sport of 'Enduro' does not seem to be a professional sport due to the cheating etc.
The whole week early practice thing really doesn't happen as much in DH - Some races are thousands of miles away from each other and only a weekend apart and its a single run with several days practice so the gains of practicing in this way are reduced.
Enduro however - turn up a week early with your 'team' - scout out potential routes (or get back hand info) and dial your bike setup for the areas terrain. This and the whole 'Enduro' line choices we have seen in the past.
Who was the rider that got fined / DQ'd for getting help with uplifts before?
Peats right - until Enduro has a set of rules that don't differ from series to series and guidelines to prevent this form of cheating how professional can it be?
Of the established tracks, most of them have new sections built and remodelled for the race so you can't practice on them for long...
Plus during a race weekend there isn't actually that much time each racer gets to practice.
I was talking about enduro riding and Peat refers to enduro racing, where the rules are not clear enough etc.
Why wouldn't they just post the routes weeks/months in advance so it's not "cheating"???? Why? Why not? I don't understand this....? Who cares?! If you're racing DH in _____ resort in _____ area on ______ trail who cares?!?!?!?!?!!!
Can't the same be said for DH racers though?
He's just saying the format doesn't quite work out equally for the professional because of those inherent restrictions in time, and the actual rules of the format. As a grassroots style race with friends, it can work well. But once its a professional field it becomes quite difficult to uphold the original intentions of the format, which is equal playing field via unannounced/unseen/unpracticed segments.
In WC DH, they are often building some portion of the track brand new, so the riders are seeing it for the first time and all have equal exposure to it. They are also all traveling on the same schedule, so they cant just go live at some faraway track for a few weeks, especially considering that the track is probably not even open for riding. DH tracks are also relatively short and controllable, where Enduro can take place across a huge region, where you cannot effectively enforce a trail closure or build miles and miles of brand new unseen singletrack.
What's his motive for saying this i wonder ?
"If your not cheating, your not trying"
Always love Peaty's candor