The last few seasons saw Rocky Mountain's downhill bike, the Flatline, take a backseat to their all-mountain and trail offerings, but sightings of various prototypes everywhere from the
Red Bull Rampage to the World Cup circuit made it clear that a new bike was on the way, although it was anybody's guess as to when it would make it to market. After nearly four years of development, the speculation can finally be put to rest, and the Maiden will officially be rolling into shops by early October.
The new bike is a full carbon fiber affair, with 200mm of rear travel delivered by a mega-sized version of Rocky's Smoothlink suspension. 27.5” wheels are spec'd on the complete build kits, but 26” wheels haven't been put out to pasture just yet. There are two rear wheel positions, and with the addition of a custom lower head tube spacer the geometry can be corrected so that no matter what size wheels are used the ride feel is nearly identical. A four position chip also allows for further geometry adjustment for both wheel sizes. Depending on the chip's orientation, with 27.5” wheels the head angle can be set from 63º to 63.8º.
Details
• Intended use: downhill
• Travel: 200mm
• Full carbon frame
• 425mm chainstays
• 27.5" or 26" wheels
• 12 x 157mm rear spacing
• PressFit BB107 bottom bracket
• Sizes S, M, L, XL
• Weight: N/A
• Price: $4499 - $10499 USD
There will be four complete bikes offered: the Maiden Unlimited, World Cup, Pro, and Park as well as a frame only option, all in sizes S, M, L and XL. Pricing ranges from $10,499 USD for the no-expenses-spared Maiden Unlimited to $4499 for the Maiden Park. The frame with a BOS Stoy RaRe shock goes for $3999.
Frame DesignThe Maiden's frame is completely made from carbon fiber, including the chain stay and linkage, areas that often see aluminum used due to additional cost and complexity that can arise from this design choice. Rocky calls their carbon construction “Smoothwall,” which refers to the company's use of a rigid mold rather than a bladder during the layup process to ensure that the frame's shape is consistent both inside and out.
During the bike's development process a number of prototypes were built up that relied on bushings, but due to the larger size of the pivots there was too much stiction to make them a feasible option. Rocky decided to go with bearings, but not just any bearings – the Maiden uses Enduro MAX bearings that are the same dimensions as what are used for a BB30 bottom bracket, which means they should be readily available when the time comes to replace them. A supersized version of Rocky's Pipelock expanding collet system is used to hold everything securely in place.
The return of internal cable routing doesn't show any signs of abating, and the Maiden is no exception, with the brake and derailleur housing entering at the head tube and exiting through a port in the top of the downtube. That port can also accept a Shimano Di2 battery, which acts as a bit of future proofing should electronic shifting start to spread to the downhill world.
A plastic downtube protector helps to keep the frame safe from rock strikes, and a molded chainstay protector keeps the chain slap noise to a minimum. There's also a guard that fits into the v-shaped cutout where the seat tube splits around the rear shock to keep the shock from getting coated in mud and grit.
SuspensionRocky Mountain stuck with their Smoothlink suspension design for the Maiden, a layout that sees the rear pivot positioned in front of and ever-so-slightly above the rear axle. The design has been configured specifically for the demands of downhill riding, with a progressive stroke that's intended to split the difference between a more linear layout and one that ramps up very quickly. The rear wheel has a nearly vertical axle path, with only 26 millimeters of chainstay growth as the bike goes through its travel.
Except for the base model Maiden Park, all of the bikes use BOS suspension products, a spec choice that stands out in the sea of RockShox and FOX equipped downhill bikes that are currently on the market. According to Rocky, the decision to go with the French brand rather than one of the bigger players was partially due to the feedback from Vancouver area racers and shops who had been impressed with construction quality and on-trail feel of the company's products.
GeometryIn certain circles, particularly on the internet, the topic of downhill bike chainstay length is as rife with controversy as religion or politics. Of course, armchair engineering doesn't compare to real world experimentation, and Rocky tested out a number of chainstay lengths during the Maiden's four year development period before settling on a relatively short 425mm length. There are several geometry adjustments that are possible on the Maiden, but that number remains consistent no matter what wheelsize is used.
On the topic of wheel size, the Maiden was designed with 27.5” wheels in mind, but measures have been taken to ensure that the bike can accept 26” wheels as well while maintaining the same BB height and trail measurements. There are two rear wheel positions, and a spacer that mounts on the underside of the head tube to correct the geometry for smaller wheels. These two adjustments allow the bike's angles to remain nearly identical, preserving the handling characteristics that Rocky worked hard to achieve.
Along with being able to set the bike up for different wheel sizes, the lower shock bolt runs through a square chip that can be rotated into four different positions, which allows the head angle to be changed in 1/4 degree increments from 63° – 63.8° degrees. Unlike Rocky's Ride 9 chip system that's found on a number of their enduro and XC bikes, changing the chip's orientation doesn't have an affect on the feel of the shock – it only alters the geometry, not the spring rate.
Rocky Mountain chose Retallack Lodge as the setting for the launch of the Maiden, a mountain bike paradise that's tucked away deep in British Columbia's Selkirk Mountains. Thanks to multiple van shuttles and a helicopter ride we were able to rack up over 20,000 vertical feet of descending over the course of a few days on a selection of incredible trails peppered with berms, jumps, roots and rocks, which provided plenty of chances to get accustomed to the Maiden's handling characteristics.
It took a few laps to find the sweet spot in regards to suspension setup, but that's to be expected considering the BOS suspension's level of adjustability. The Maiden World Cup I was riding comes with the BOS Stoy Rare shock and Idylle Rare fork, both of which have independently adjustable low speed and high speed compression along with rebound damping. Making those adjustments requires the use of tools, and even accessing the fork's rebound requires a flathead screwdriver. The good news is that the adjustments are effective – those knobs aren't just there for looks, and a few clicks in either direction makes a noticeable difference on the trail. I did notice a rattling from the front fork during repeated quick hits – I'd venture to guess it was related to the negative spring, but more time with the fork would be required to fully figure it out.
After a few tweaks to the suspension, the Maiden's true colors began to show through, and I felt more and more comfortable staying off the brakes and letting it run. The bike's handling when diving into berms was what impressed me the most – the short chain stays made it easy to quickly snap in and out of corners, but there was still loads of stability on tap to keep the bike locked securely into the turn. The Maiden feels extremely solid, which helps keep it on course even when stumps and holes are trying to direct it off line.
As easy as it was to corner and perform quick direction changes, the Maiden has a ground hugging feel, and I found myself more likely to carve or manual from one side of the trail to another rather than jumping. When I did take flight the bike felt well balanced and predictable, but a little more 'oomph' was required to get airborne than I'd expected.
It'd be easy to take a cursory glance at the Maiden's geometry numbers and categorize it as a park bike rather than a race machine, but those numbers don't tell the whole story – there's a good amount of raw speed begging to be unleashed under that blue paint job, and the bike felt best when ridden aggressively, heels down and fingers off the brakes. Even with 200mm of travel between myself and the ground I never felt like I was disconnected from the terrain that I was rolling over. It's not an overly plush ride, but it's also not harsh either, striking a balance that makes for a very enjoyable experience, transmitting just enough feedback to really feel in tune with the trail.
So who is the Maiden for? A downhill rider who spends a good chunk of time in the bike park but still occasionally finds themselves racing the clock would be a prime candidate. It's a bike that's just as fun on machine built trails as it is on the more raw, chopped up terrain, and it doesn't balk when pushed hard into corners or through rock gardens. It's much too soon to announce a verdict on durability, but if the bearings end up being as reliable as Rocky claims, this could be one formidable workhorse of a bike.
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I'm getting that right, right? At least spesh, trek, sc etc have some damn dh pedigree. FFS these companies all take the piss now, since one got away with it they all think they can, unacceptable.
Good luck with the sales figures
How's that kool aid taste?
Also I am well aware of chainless races. I refer to copying gwin's recent big dh win with no chain. If you want a bike based on whether it takes podiums then maybe you would be better off without a chain like him... Do you get it now? If not I am likely wasting my time trying to explain it to you.
As for my response to your initial response, If you don't understand what I was saying you may just be less than clever, but let me try again.
You are saying a bike has to win something to prove it is worth the big bucks. You may need to research how economics works. The entire racing format is built around marketing, so when you let the podiums influence your opinions you are doing a good job of supporting the sport. kudos. That being said, there is more to a bike than whether it can win races. I ride a remedy. A remedy just won some serious enduro wc races, but that doesn't mean my money was suddenly better spent. Instead it is important that my bike works for my style and is reliable. I am not about to take podiums (or even really try) so I can't see that influencing my choice of bike, but even if it did it would just prove i'm an idiot since i am a different rider than the guy who won that race in ireland, and I ride in different conditions.
Consider that when you buy a bike and you will be happier with the purchase. You may find that after all the hype induced fog has cleared you like a santa cruz bullit with a marz 66 fork and a manitou metel shock on some 2.5 minnions, even though it weighs 40lbs and has never even tried for a podium.
That said, they only sell the S-works, which uses a different grade of carbon than the base carbon full bike. Not sure it directly compares. & they offer an aluminum model with the TTX for $2900.
@MTBCAM Define lucky! I may have a dream bike, but I'm forever alone..apparently an S-Works doesn't work for picking up girls too well. Or it's just me, I suppose. Also, I'm jealous of your Yeti, my enduro bike is 8 years old and way too small for me :-/
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4 years of development and the end game is very nice looking bike that can come to a insane 10,500$ price tag, which turned out to be neither the race machine nor the bike park shredder?
Costs more than carbon S-Works Demo 8, but it seems to be not so "speed encouraging", fast and stable and on the other hand rider it's not as fun a nimble as Session Park, Kona Operator etc.?
Don\t get me wrong, it looks dope, but am I the only one who gets the impression that it's just a "good downhill rig" and nothing more?
Just my 2 cents
Exact quote from the article: "As easy as it was to corner and perform quick direction changes, the Maiden has a ground hugging feel, and I found myself more likely to carve or manual from one side of the trail to another rather than jumping. When I did take flight the bike felt well balanced and predictable, but a little more 'oomph' was required to get airborne than I'd expected. " I think it tells U everything about the bike which turned out to be less fun than Mike expected. And I'm pretty sure that Mike didn't presume that Maiden is a straight racing machine.
Chainstay length is not bad, it works out feeling longer than that of the latest demo(430mm) because of the axle path. They also went for big bearings, so they will last a long time compared to other bikes.
I think Rocky mountain have got a lot of things right on this bike, much more than they're being given credit for.
Those who do not care only about racing, because downhill is not only about racing against the clock you can check this review of the bike - dirtmountainbike.com/longform/2016-rocky-mountain-maiden-downhill-bike#JqIWxde8cFbVyq15.97
@ldhbaker good answer, I don't get what is wrong with it.
= marketing speak for "We almost had it finished when the 650B wave crashed over us and forced a redesign."
People buy multiple sets of wheels because they have a race day wheelset and a training wheel set or and adventure wheelset etc. Same size of tire to swap tubes/tires between. No one is going to spend 5.5k+ just to buy a set of old stock wheels.
The only likely circumstance I could see is that if you taco'd a wheel and you still own a 26" wheelset in the garage, that happens to be current enough to have a 157mm hub.
Are all the other companies telling us shit regarding frames only been 275.
(yeah. sorry 'bout dat)
him: so what do you do
me: software stuff, work for a consulting company
him: you ride a lot
me: try to at least twice a month, you?
him: I am up here every weekend, all weekend. I have a condo up here (Winter Park)
me: what are you riding
him: ah, I just picked up one of the demo bikes from the park, I got a good deal on it
me: do you live up here
him: no, I have a house in Boulder (ridiculously overpriced city in Colorado IMO)
At this point, I was thinking he is one of the very young entrepreneurs at a tech startup in Boulder
me: what do you do, you have a tech startup?
him: oh no, I am in 10th grade, still in high school
me: I see, so when you say "I", you really mean "my parents", because you don't own crap
The rest of the lift ride was pretty quiet after that.
I see that same shit every friggin weekend at Trestle. .....the "not mine, it's Daddy's dime" crew.
Anyway what are your initial thoughts on the carbon Maiden, if you don't mind me asking. I don't think you voiced an opinion on the actual thread at hand yet, just curious is all.
No hard feelings @meesterover .
RM did it to cater to Park/DHers that still use to 26" wheels.
The last few years of the Flatline, if you saw somebody with one, you instantly didn't give them credit and thought "rental", and didn't pay much attention. Not like you would with somebody you see in the lift line on a V10, Demo, or an Intense or something more "boutique".
I'd love to see Rocky return to the glory days when their bikes were the envy of everybody in the lifeline, or at least more respected. They have some killer talent riding for them, so I was just hoping for more. If I'm going to spend anywhere near $8000+ on a new sled, it would most likely be a smaller custom brand.
I suppose I need to ride one before making final judgement, but I think most everybody is going to like whatever they throw a leg over. It's not like you get off of anything and say "this sucks, I can't ride it."
With full carbon everything, I would expect it to be light, but there was no mention of weight or it feeling light. None of the previous Rockys were light, they've always been strong and overbuilt.
Most people are bashing it as it islooking like something else... what about the session after Dave Weagle end is contract with iron horse. I agree it is really similar but frame engineering go further than look and some angle tweeking and suspention adjustments like the ride9 system may change everything.
I am expecting it to BE A KICKASS DOWNHILL RACE BIKE, but as RM roots are in freestyle i guessed they wanted it to be suitable for this purpose also. Again you have to possibility to change to geometry depending on your riding style.
I won't pronounce myself on it though, there is many good bike and RM will have to proove themselves with this one.
Let's give it a try ... when are the test rides?
As the owner of the Slayer SS'14 I can say that the Smooth suspension Link (C) with a stroke of 100 mm is works great, no buildup when pedaling, there is no tension on the chain while depreciation. Designed in the same way for years, so all time-tested and hard trials.
The geometry of the Maiden similar, so i suppose this is exactly great! Pipes, pens, links look strong. Wiring hidden in the frame, is very good and modern. Well RM, we look forward to its appearance in Russia!
I have owned two of your bikes, including my current Slayer which I love. However it is clear with your releases in the past few years that you have lost touch with me. I have no idea what you are doing design wise, and especially wonder who your crack dealer is when it comes to selling a park bike frame for $5000. That is what we in the business call friggin' insane monkeyballs.
It is no wonder that Rocky dealers in the US cannot gain traction.They try for a year because of your rep, but can't keep it together. They have to deal with odd design decisions, pricing that compares favourably with... nobody, and horrible sales reps. I have not rode much else than Rocky and Norco. So I know there is a difference. However if you can't put out A+ class bikes you are so done.
I know personally that I probably will never be able to afford another Rocky bike, so hopefully my slayer loves me long time. Hopefully, you guys right the ship over there, otherwise rest in peace.
In fact, I want to say Devinci had an old school Wilson which used a horst link in Canadia, but had a rate modified SP in the States...could be wrong on that tho.
currency conversion: 10500$ = 9653€
shipping costs + cargo insurance: about 500€
currency conversion fee (paypal charges 3%) = 304.59€
duty (3%) = 289.59€
VAT (21%) = 2027.13€
other costs (storage) = 10€
....... I would have to pay 12784.31€ = 13.906,5$, thats to say, an extra cost of around 3400 dollars.
And this shit happens all the time.
Oh wait, don't we live in a globalized world? isn't there the free movement of goods and services and all that crap?
I'm confused now.
4flippin years of R&D fps, oh please, I'm still yet to see a decent new version Slayer r have they forgotten their best seller category of bike.
Still, it looks ok I guess, liking the colour and decals, looks like a 70's Star Wars toy.
Adjustable geometry.......just more to go wrong. Just make it right.
I have yet to ride a RM DH bike that I would drop my loot on over many other equally priced comparison.
$10,500!!!!!
Not a chance!!!
And the promo edit doesn't have Iron Maiden in the soundtrack.
Huh.
That being said I love that they made it an all purpose big bike. That's way more in tune with how most people use their big bike anyway: a whole lot of park and shuttling.
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Doesn't add up to me!
It's waaay too simmialr to a Session/After Burner/Stinky, so not first.
Some clever stuff, wheel options are neat, but for how long? 26 vs 27.5 was the debate, we have now decided no?!
Or Cheat..... Apparently this works for some...
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how much difference does .8 degrees really make?
in a moment we will have 20 different hubs, and in future the manufacturer who invent hub with variable ends to fit hub into every frame will win everything.
I need to start designing
soon exchange of one part of the bike will be impossible, because you will have to replace 99% of components that fit together