Fouriers, Birzman and HT - Taipei Show 2015

Mar 18, 2015
by Paul Aston  
Taipei

Fouriers Cranks, Rings and Handlebars

Fouriers is a new kid on the block, but they already produce a vast range of extender sprockets, chain rings and other alloy accessories in a multitude of shapes, sizes and colours. They're adding new products to their line-up at a quick rate, as they focus on providing all possible options to the consumer. They showed us a few interesting prototypes and newly finished products during today's visit at the Taipei Cycle Show.

Fouriers prototype cranks
Their prototype DH crank is compatible with the company's direct mount chain ring.
Fouriers prototype cranks
The all-mountain/enduro version will be slightly lighter, as well as having an option of a 104 BCD spider that allows for multiple 'ring setups.


The prototype cranks are CNC machined and feature a 30mm axle. Fouriers is proud of the fact they have an option for threaded bottom brackets, as most 30mm axle cranks are only available for press-fit options. Two variations were displayed, one for DH/freeride and one for all-mountain/enduro use. Everything is machined in-house, and there will be direct mount/spiderless 'rings or 104 BCD spiders. Expect multiple lengths, colours, and fitments. The units pictured here only came out the machine a few days ago, and the end product should be finalized and in stock before May. These guys don't waste any time.

Fouriers prototypes


Another product that's new to the lineup is the CC760 handlebar. The 'CC' stands for Control Curve, which is an extra bend placed in the middle of the grip. Angled downwards, the knuckle is shaped to fit in the palm of your hand. The bend limits your choice of grip as a rigid, lock-on type won't fit, so keep that in mind. Initially offered with 20mm rise and a 9 degree backsweep, 680mm, 720mm or 760mm widths and constructed from triple butted alloy. Anodized black with grey, red or green graphics are your colour choices. Pricing isn't finalized yet, but they should come in between $90 and $110 USD.

Fouriers prototypes
  XTR compatible chain rings include these custom machined cover tabs to match the rings.


Fouriers take on narrow/wide includes two unique features: the teeth have teardrop shaped holes machined into the root of the tooth to aid mud clearance. The wave design is a ridge below the teeth which matches the contours of the chain. The outer links sit on this ridge line which supports the chain, preventing twisting or rotating side to side on the teeth, Fouriers say this will increase chain life.




Birzman Multi-Tool and Mini-Pump

Yet to be named, this new tool from Birzman combines a torque wrench with a conventional multi-tool. A basic unit that includes 4 and 5mm hex keys, a flat screwdriver, and a T25 torx . The torque wrench only works with the 4mm and 5mm hex keys, though. As you apply pressure on the button with your thumb when tightening, a positive click will be felt and heard when hitting 5nm, which is a common torque value for things like handlebars and stems. The full launch will be at Eurobike in August, and pricing and availability will be published at that point.

Birzman multi tool
Yet unnamed, this new tool was kept sealed away from fiddling fingers in this perspex case.
Birzman multi-tool
This was the first prototype that was used to test and develop the concept.


Birzman multi-tool
Prototype two is a more refined version borrowing shapes from an existing Birzman mini tool.
Birzman multi-tool
This third prototype is what the finished tool will be modelled upon.


Birzman also had this new mini-pump and CO2 system on display dubbed the 'Sheath'. The bottle cage mount lets you store the pump on one side, and two canisters on the other. The incredibly simple Apogee valve head can be unscrewed from the pump to use in conjunction with the CO2 canisters. Scheduled for purchase shortly after Eurobike, the complete unit will cost around $47 USD.

Birzman mini-pump and co2 cartridge combination
  The neat bottle cage mounts will keep the pump and cartridges secure, and the transferable Apogee head means you have one less item to remember.




HT2 Pedals

These prototype X2 pedals from HT will be launched at Sea Otter in April. Gathering information was like drawing blood from a stone, but they noted the X2 is an alternative model, not a replacement to the X1. HT were prepared to talk about these two new cleats that offer more float than the current version, giving the consumer a choice of three feelings. I was also treated to a behind the counter look at a slightly updated (not shown) system that will simplify entry in to the pedal.

HT X2 prototypes

HT X2 prototypes
The X2 appears to have a slightly larger and narrower body compared to the X1.
New HT cleats
HT also have two new cleats to match the pedals, which have varying feels and degrees of float.


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81 Comments
  • 108 10
 Those cranks are beautiful!
  • 22 69
flag stella10 (Mar 18, 2015 at 12:28) (Below Threshold)
 ^ joking?
  • 16 3
 Most beautiful crank shape I ever saw.
  • 21 2
 Makes so much sense having raw/polished cranks! they look great no matter how much they are used!!!!!
  • 6 1
 That bottom bracket spindle is big enough to hold a banana. Massive. And gorgeous!
  • 9 5
 They are pretty unique looking. I was searching for the words "forged" to accompany "machined" in that crank paragraph, and not finding it, moved on to the next product.
  • 6 0
 They kinda look like the shimano bmx DX polished cranks from years ago. Fouriers products look really nice. They just need helping with their corporate branding strategy and people would start buying.
  • 5 0
 Fouriers is stepping up their game,they are doing a good job
  • 6 1
 More to the point: "The (prototype) units pictured here only came out the machine a few days ago, and the end product should be finalized and in stock before May. These guys don't waste any time,"
.
What you really mean is we all get to do the prototype testing with production run one.
  • 3 9
flag fedz (Mar 18, 2015 at 15:19) (Below Threshold)
 I could have sex with that crank ! ... fucking lovely !
  • 9 2
 I'm sorry, but last gen XTR cranks were the prettiest cranks of all time
  • 8 0
 @fedz dunno man, the 30mm is the O.D., so the inside walls might be 24mm or so... for some that would be a tight fit.
  • 5 2
 @twozerosix, I hear ya, for some that would be a tight fit,... so like I said ... :O)
  • 2 0
 They remind me of Middleburn, awesome looking! Not for everyone though I guess.
  • 2 1
 Yes they do. Giving RaceFace a run for their money! I wouldn't mind trying out those funky handlebars on my XC bike too.
  • 2 1
 Hideous. Sorry.
  • 1 0
 So after reading these comments about the forging and machining process, I went back to Fouriers yesterday to dig a little deeper. These cranks are made from rolled sheets of alloy, which Fouriers say gives similar properties to a forging. If there is enough demand, they will open a forge mould. They say the only real difference between the two processes is that forging is more cost effective for mass production, if the potential for volume is there.
  • 1 0
 @paulaston "Rolled sheets of alloy" - doesn't ring a bell as far as forming processes go - either its forged material, or its machined from some solid stock. Granted there are better and worse chunks of metal to start machining from, so maybe that's what they are alluding to.
  • 19 8
 Give up lock-ons?

bahahahahahahahahah

I'll just throw on my SIS derailleur, rockshox judy's and bear trap pedals while I'm at it.

No thanks. A bit more comfy bar isn't all that helpful when your grip is still in your hand and your bike is cartwheeling down the hill.
  • 13 1
 you can also wire your grips on like motostyle...

factoryjackson.com/2012/07/06/how-2-wiring-grips
  • 13 0
 lock ons are over rated, pickup a set of renthal atv grips, use their grip glue and report back. Theres a reason most people in mx dont run lock ons, its like night and day regarding arm pump.
  • 4 2
 But why would I go through all that hassle only to find out I don't like the grip.
  • 3 1
 Game's right. Push on grips provide so much extra vibration damping. I do notice a big difference in arm pump and fatigue after a hard days ride. I must admit I do use lock-ons on tamer bikes, cos they're just less hassle when getting on and off. But not on my dh bike. Its my favorite bike, and I don't mind the extra minute or two it takes to get it set up perfectly.
  • 3 0
 Grip glue and wire is the way forward can't beat it
  • 2 0
 Just use some hair net on there, those things are going nowhere. Your worries are entirely unfounded.
  • 2 0
 The grip debate is always gona come down to personal preference. With that said fuck lock on grips i dunno how some of yall do it i went there and will probably never use anything but the classic ourys ever again.
  • 1 0
 I buy my Lock On grips from Kaufland. They cost 5 Euro, are softer than most of the grips out there and last very long. The quality is perfect, they have absolutely no flaws and are the best bang for the buck product on my bike. Plus, their rings are gunmetal coloured Smile
  • 2 0
 @FrEeZa me too from Kaufland, they're 3.5 euro here (15 RON) and recommend them to everybody here.
  • 16 6
 Birzman making stuff that is useful, unlike some--meaning you SCAM, I mean SRAM.
  • 5 10
flag mnorris122 (Mar 18, 2015 at 16:03) (Below Threshold)
 Dude, the products they make are totally unrelated. Do you just take every opportunity you get to hate on SRAM? You do realize that without XX1, we wouldn't have those nifty 42t cogs. Without SRAM, we wouldnt have ultra sensitive forks and shocks. f*ck you're dumb, open your eyes.
  • 7 0
 "Without SRAM, we wouldnt have ultra sensitive forks and shocks. f*ck you're dumb, open your eyes." lolwut? i like sram too, but what are you going on about?
  • 2 6
flag mnorris122 (Mar 18, 2015 at 17:21) (Below Threshold)
 Sram's introduction of the Pike and 2014 Vivid Air forced other companies to step up their game suspension wise. Yes, if they hadn't done that, we would be worse for it.
  • 4 1
 @mnorris122 without xx1 we wouldnt need* those nifty 42t cogs and life would be simpler and cheaper.
  • 1 5
flag mnorris122 (Mar 18, 2015 at 17:51) (Below Threshold)
 Are you going to disagree with the masses who like their 42t cogs?
  • 5 0
 nah, just conjecture really. carry on
  • 4 2
 @mnorris--gee nothing like a teenager calling me dumb--without SRAM we would've never had Elixirs, you heard of those, genius?
  • 2 1
 Nothing like an adult making assumptions based on age. One bad product doesn't mean the whole company sucks and all of their components produced thereafter should be ignored and assumed to suck
  • 6 0
 @mnorris Well, calling me "dumb and to open my eyes" is definitely immature on your part whether you're a kid or not. Age in this case is relevant to me since I have a lot more experience with planned obsolescence than you do. SRAM is doing exactly what Shimano did back in the late eighties/early nineties going from 126-130-135 for rear spacing and 6-7-8 speeds to 48-46-42 big rings. I am glad you seemingly have infinite funds to keep up with continually changing "standards" but back when I was an 18 year-old privateer, I did not. I didn't respect it then with Shimano and certainly don't now with SRAM.
  • 1 2
 Ok, go ride your 3x6 bike with a 27.2 dnon-dropper post, 25.4mm bars, narrow rear end and huge rings.
  • 7 0
 That Birzman multi-tool is great. A simple design concept, that solves a valid problem, wrapped in an attractive package. I'll definitely be picking one of those up.
  • 3 0
 I've got an older Birzman multi-tool and I'm well impressed by it. Even wedged it into a pivot hole on my mates bike when a bearing fell out because the lazy sod doesn't look after his bike. Saved us a long walk home and an argument miles from anywhere.
  • 6 1
 Ooooo I remember the broken CNC cranks of yester year, I'll stick with forged. looks like a proprietary attachment too. They are pretty, I'll enjoy looking at them on someone elses' bike. The new XTR 1x ring's grip on a chain is pretty awesome why would you put anything else on it?. I like how they talk about the twisting of the links on the teeth at those extreme 11 speed cross chain angles.
  • 1 3
 Exactly what I thought. No lock-ons, no way.
  • 2 0
 Oops, wrong comment Frown
  • 4 0
 Most if not all cnc cranks you see are forged. This means a block of aluminum was put under alot of pressure and squeezed into the shape of a crank(or close to it). This makes the aluminum more dense, along with aligning the grain upping the strength bigtime. Some forged cranks are left alone after forging usually shot peened, some are cut to final shape with a cnc machine. You're probably talking about billet aluminum cranks which start as a solid block of aluminum and are completely cnc'd to final shape, this is weaker because the metal is'nt as dense or aligned.
  • 1 0
 So after reading these comments about the forging and machining process, I went back to Fouriers yesterday to dig a little deeper. These cranks are made from rolled sheets of alloy, which Fouriers say gives similar properties to a forging. If there is enough demand, they will open a forge mould. They say the only real difference between the two processes is that forging is more cost effective for mass production, if the potential for volume is there.
  • 1 0
 That may or not be the case now game but it wasn't back in the '90s when broken billet everything was every where. When you machine after forging, rolling or what ever typically the surface is what gets removed and the surface is typically the densest area of the forged alloy. Mchining also cuts into the aligned fibers and creates stress risers. Hopefully not in critical places. I like a big safety margin so I like companies that have a lot of experience and a good reputation for consistent reliable product. Too much prototyping happens in market although I think it is less now. Having held a new XTR crank in my hands at a recent Shimano tech seminar if I wer to buck up for a bocoup big bling crank that would be it. 1 crank so many chain ring choices and the finish is stunning.
  • 8 0
 Powerlite power bend is back! Bummer about the lock ons though...
  • 3 0
 Fouriers is coming up, check em' out at Sea Otter. Put that bar in your hand and give'r a squeeze. Slip on grips for now, and ESI's feel great. The subltle bend, pockets into the palm of your hand, while giving a bit more leverage at the ends of the bars when pulling up. Powerlite paved the way, Fouriers is refining the design. Lock-ons are in the pipeline, so don't sweat it too much. Unlike Ergon's you can rotate your hand position and not have the grip feel weird with your hand in a different spot. Distributed by Cascade Velo in the US, as of 3/18/15. Get some!!
  • 5 0
 Roox used to have handlebars with such a bend about 10-12 years ago. I had some and I though the incompatibility with lock-on grips was a big drawback of the design.
  • 5 0
 i just use chromag grips with a raised bit in the middle...go chromag!
  • 8 1
 Alright, who is going to give up their lock-on's to run this bar?

...Come on, who's with me?

...Anyone?? ...Anyone out there?

(crickets)
  • 5 0
 It would be a lot easier to build that into the grips, similar to Ergon
  • 1 0
 dmr makes a lock on that would work with those bars
  • 8 2
 Just learn to glue your grips or use hairspray like an tab no biggy
  • 7 5
 Yes! Thank you! Someone else with a brain! Lock ons are a scam. If you kids would only learn to put grips on like adults. I ran yeti speed grips for 8 years with no issues. Even with custom grip shift setups.
  • 3 0
 ^this, just use grip glue, or rubber cement, shoe goo even. Safety wire too if you're really paranoid, then enjoy the benefits of a slim grip that's got more than 1mm of rubber on it
  • 8 5
 so the wife just walked in whilst i was handling my gentlemans sausage looking at the black and blue and red and purple crank.....she didnt care though, something about 8 inches in the rear and 29ers are gay....
  • 8 0
 cringy
  • 2 0
 Those bent bars work great. I've been using one of Sully's earlier versions of that bar for a few years now and love them. I just wired the inside part of my grips down and have had no problems. USA retailers can start finding Fouriers products at the new www.cascadevelo.com distribution company soon!
  • 1 0
 I've dumped some landings and my bars are the same! Oh---- and the time I got hit by that bitch ass bus helped shape it out too. I love a lump of bar in my palm. Just like I love a bog ole wallop of peanut butter in my shorts when I'm hittin it. You bitches don' feel me when the flow be hittin. But the bent bar shizz does.
  • 3 0
 That XTR compatible chainring has just made new XTR way more appealing to me!
  • 2 0
 Making spider caps to replace those cheap-looking curvy XTR ones is a clever idea. Although that particular design from Fouriers doesn't do it for me.
  • 4 2
 Not too sure how I feel about a set of bars that doesn't allow me to use lock-ons..
  • 7 2
 Simple, you learn how to apply non locks.
Mineral spirits/Alcohol/Hair spray, Glue, Wire or any combination.
Google it.
  • 1 0
 And as a result of not running lock on, you have more than 1mm of material to hold on to and less fatigue. I recently found out about OURY and Iove em!
  • 3 2
 I hear ya. I only use lock-ons. Only use lock-ons for anything more aggressive then commuting folks I almost lost teeth because of non locks.
  • 2 0
 My motocross bikes have never had lock ons
  • 2 1
 They should have introduced their own grips with those bars. Perhaps a 2 piece collar that wouldn't have to be slid over the bar itself to lock the grip.
  • 2 0
 Bill Grove did those bends back in 1987 on his Hammerhead one-piece bar-stem-combo. It's not a bad idea I reckon.
  • 2 0
 I'm interested to try out those bars.
  • 1 1
 I could see using non lock on grips if you epoxied them on lol. Otherwise your looking at a 15-20ft drop to reconstructive surgery. Lol
  • 1 0
 any news on the wireless dropper post from KS that they displayed on the taipei bike show last year?
  • 1 0
 those bars are a throwback to old Powerlite bars from BMX in the 80's...new..can sometimes be old!
  • 2 1
 Crank it up Fouriers!! Smile
  • 2 1
 What type of spline interface do the cranks use? GXP? Cinch?
  • 1 0
 Its called Shimano octalink splined interface.
  • 1 0
 Atv stupid auto correct
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