Fox Unveils 831 Fork!
by Tyler Maine
Aug 14, 2009
Source: Fox Racing Shox
Fox Racing Shox takes 4X, Dirt Jump and Dual Slalom suspension to the next level.
FOX Racing Shox is proud to announce the 831 Suspension Fork. Designed and engineered for the demanding disciplines of 4X, Dirt Jump, and Dual Slalom, the 831 uses the FOX 32 mm platform, FLOAT® Air Spring technology, and FIT™ RLC damper.
Fox Racing Shox takes 4X, Dirt Jump and Dual Slalom suspension to the next level.
FOX Racing Shox is proud to announce the 831 Suspension Fork. Designed and engineered for the demanding disciplines of 4X, Dirt Jump, and Dual Slalom, the 831 uses the FOX 32 mm platform, FLOAT® Air Spring technology, and FIT™ RLC damper.
The 831’s FIT RLC damper is specifically valved with firmer high-speed compression damping and new low-speed compression needle and circuit, to increase pedal efficiency when sprinting out of the start gate and absorbing large jump landings. The FLOAT air spring has been designed to add more progression, to push back on the rider during high cornering loads. Travel is factory set at 100 mm, and is internally adjustable from 80 to 120 mm in 5 mm increments for optimal crown-to-axle height tuning. The chassis has increased stiffness at this travel due to the use of FOX’s longer travel chassis components normally found on the 32 FLOAT, TALAS®, and Vanilla® forks.
Compression adjustments on top now - pic by Brule
Rebound and FIT cartridge
Like all FOX Racing Shox products, the Race and Engineering team worked with their top athletes to develop a fork specifically for their needs. “We’re constantly working with our athletes to find every advantage possible. With the 831 we developed a fork for our amazing 4X and Dirt Jump athletes that is lightweight, yet still offers the FOX performance, stiffness and steering precision they are accustomed to,” stated Mark Fitzsimmons, FOX Race Manager. The 831 was developed and tested during the 2009 season using the 2009 4X World Cup Champion Jared Graves, riders Cameron McCaul and Dan Atherton, and the 2009 Crankworx Dual Slalom champion Kyle Strait.
For riders interested in purchasing the 831, placeholder orders will be accepted beginning 8/31, for shipment on November 16.
Retail price is $831 USD.
WEIGHT
3.833 lb (1738.6g) – 1 1/8" steerer
3.8 lb (1725.2g) – 1.5" steerer
TRAVEL
100 mm
ADJUSTMENTS
Low Speed Compression
Lockout force adjust
Lever actuated lockout
Air spring pressure
Rebound
Travel (internally adjustable)
DAMPER
FIT RLC
LOWER LEG
15QR
STEERER
1 1/8" (option 1.5 taper)
SPRING
Air
FORK COLOR
Black
Check out Fox Racing Shox new website.
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204 Comments
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trailhead007
(Aug 14, 2009 at 18:58)
Looks pretty aweomse.
I'm not a fan at all. The idea got me really excited on the home page, then I read it to find alot of weird flaws. 15qr? Why? Am I the only person who hates this? The last thing we need is ANOTHER size I have to run around and find when I break it on race day :mad:. Also, 32mm is a little small, but most companies stick to this for DJ/4X. Definetly has some potential, great weight, great adjustments, materials, just not digging the 15QR. Sorry if no one else agrees, but what the heck was wrong with 20? "If it ain't broke don't fix it!" 20mm has been fine for 10 years now...
I agree, the 15qr is just another hassle with hubs and compadability. It is about time that Fox released a dj/4x fork though.
agreed, 15mm... ooh great, sure you save what, like 10 grams, but anybody who knows anything about engineering knows you'll lose a ton of axle stiffness decreasing the diameter 25% (from a 20mm that is).
Not a reasonable tradeoff at all if you ask me...
for that matter, are they ever offering this fork in 20mm?? pssh, lame, i'll stick with a lowered revelation for 4x...
Not a reasonable tradeoff at all if you ask me...
for that matter, are they ever offering this fork in 20mm?? pssh, lame, i'll stick with a lowered revelation for 4x...
its just another way companies makes money. pretty lame when youre a student on a budget. and wil, you break everything! hahaha
Yeah the 15 mm axle is stupid, though at the same time it's not hard to make an adapter to turn a 20mm into a 15mm. Anyhow,chances are they'le eventually wisen up and make a 20mm version.
Well there are adaptors for certain hubs, but it's not overly difficult to make your own. Just through a shim in there and file down the cones so that it'le fit. It's just like a 20mm just thinner and 10 or so (i think) mm shorter.
Whooaa! THATS SO CUTE!! mmmMMMmmm!! I want this! so LIGHTWEIGHT! And even not that expensive. Looks great! Seems to be really good alternative to 4x. QR15 ? I also think that it isn't necessary -> why? for less weight? Are this few grams worth of changing a hub and spokes (I think it will make many people not buy this fork)? But... if this fork will really be as good as it is claimed to - then I think that chaning a hub won't be such a painfull thing 
guys, 15mm axles have been around for quite a while now, why are you waiting till this fork comes out to complain about it? besides loads of hubs are made for 15mm now (XT etc), and many existing hubs can be converted (pro 2 ect)
DJ forks brake, no matter what, sooner or later they are f*cked. my brother kills 4 forks a year as a semi pro rider. That's a high bill to pay. rather buy a cheap fork with a little less function and a higher weight and a lower price, you'll f*ck them up anyway. 15QR, not a fan of it. The fork looks great by the way, will probibly do great for 4X and DS.
Anyone who's owned a Fox fork will realise that a Fox fork with a 15mm axle will still be stiffer ans track better than a Rockshox or Mz fork with a 20mm axle as Fox's chassis are much better designed - that said, they could've saved themselves a whole load of hassle and got a whole load more sales by adopting a Maxle type system and using 20mm!
totally true dude it is going to have a lot stiffer axle than any other companies out there with a 20mm axle on a dj and street fork its just to lose weight off the fork to make a lighter bike
Such a ridiculous price tag on it though 831 Dollars which converts to 502 pounds. If they reduced the price of the fork more people would buy therefore Fox would make more money. We all want decent and new kit on our bikes as we only have one life but if Manufacturers are introducing huge price tags like $831, 80% of us wont be able to afford. Most people are having difficulty to afford luxury items never mind a bike fork. I think its time that bike manufacturers started to reduce their prices a little and think about the rest of us. 
i agree that its a rip off but they dont want to take risks when the market is in crisis like this if they sell a fork for 400 and its cost them say 300,000 to develop and produce a certain amount they need to make a profite so they price it at 500 so they get 200,000 and atleast recoupe some of their losses
to expensive and to complicated who wants all that crammed into a dirt jump fork its just going to haggered. Im sticking with my 2004 f80.
Looks abit like a pike. Agree that the 15mm is another pointless size we don't really need.
Dont think ill be ditching my old school 05 Dirt Jumper 3 in any hurry.
Dont think ill be ditching my old school 05 Dirt Jumper 3 in any hurry.
Fox really had a lot of great potential with this product. I got really excited when I saw this on the home page but then I found out all the flaws! 15QR is just a hassel and if they are focused on the DJ market they should have done 20mm since its like 10g heavier and a lot more practical. Another thing that they should have done is created a new sanction diameter such as 34mm. And they should also introduce 2 models, one being air are more expensive and then one with a coil spring, less adjustments and a lower price tag.
Come on Fox, you had the right idea..
Come on Fox, you had the right idea..
Remember that $831 is RRP. Many large companies will sell this for much less. Chainreaction's never ending sale is a prime example of this! 
Oh, and why is fox's product range so small? It's taken them ages to make a DJ/4X fork, they still don't make budget forks, and they still don't have a single crown with more than 160mm travel like the totem or 66. They should open their horizons a bit...
Oh, and why is fox's product range so small? It's taken them ages to make a DJ/4X fork, they still don't make budget forks, and they still don't have a single crown with more than 160mm travel like the totem or 66. They should open their horizons a bit...
For everyone commenting about the price, think about this: fox only makes the highest end forks. They don't sell cheap products because that is just what they are. They have made a ton of money from doing what they're doing, so why change it? This fork was created for the people who can afford it, not for the people who want to change out their dj4.
A high end DJ fork should not cost more then 200 euro (280 USD) you'll bend/brake it up anyway, and all those kids have jobs that pay shitty low money can't afford even a fork that expensive. Look at who rides DJ >>> KIDS. This fork is for DJ riders who have to much money, for those people, contact me for my bankaccount number, because i always come short.
i was also really excited when i saw this
i would love to own a fox and thought this would be the perfect opportunity
then i saw 15mm
and like many other people on this comment line, i think that ain't cool.
especially since i finally got a nice front hub.
15 is another unnecessary standard we don't really want.
lame
and it's 15mm only yet they offer a 1.5 steerer option?
anyone else see a fail in logic there?
i would love to own a fox and thought this would be the perfect opportunity
then i saw 15mm
and like many other people on this comment line, i think that ain't cool.
especially since i finally got a nice front hub.
15 is another unnecessary standard we don't really want.
lame
and it's 15mm only yet they offer a 1.5 steerer option?
anyone else see a fail in logic there?
candymuffin i definetly agree on the 15mm thing. but weirdly some people use a 1.5 tapered head tube for cross country and stuff like that y i have no idea but ya im guessing its the same idea lol
yeah, sometimes i guess 1.5 would be nice becuase i keepbending normal ones.
but how many jump bikes have 1.5?
i think the amp does and i know the chase does
but not a chance i am going to swing my leg over a chase again.
and i am rather fond of my mob and it's internal headset
but if i am bending my steerer so much on a argyle, what am i going to do to 15mm?
but how many jump bikes have 1.5?
i think the amp does and i know the chase does
but not a chance i am going to swing my leg over a chase again.
and i am rather fond of my mob and it's internal headset
but if i am bending my steerer so much on a argyle, what am i going to do to 15mm?
It would have been nice to see a new fork maybe like 34mm platform and 20mm axle not a float qr15 thats been modified a bit, and as always fox have supprised us with another crazy price tag, although maybe we should have seen this coming?
For anyone saying they should have done bigger stanchioned forks, if Marzocchi can pull off a 32mm stanchioned DJ'er, then FOX can as well!
If you have the money for a fox, you have the money for a 15mm hub. If you want the best, you have to pay for it. I don't see why everyone was so surprised about the price tag. You wouldn't expect a 36 talas to be $600, would you? It's simple, nobody will be putting this fork on their hardrock sport. Get over it, it's a fox.
(candymuffin) keep in mind that its also designed for 4X shining on foxs racing reputation its deigned for light bikes and would be aimed at the XC bikes with a 1.5 headtube. well thats wat im guessing ne ways lol ud have to ask to really find out
The people bitching about the pricetag are clearly unaware of how much money you can earn, even at minimum wage, in a month.
you have to get a lot of hours and not have anything else to spend it on. it would take me 3 months to save up for this fork with the job i have...
we are aware, my dad gets £350 ish a week but more then 50% is spent on bills etc so even if he makes enough to buy them he cant afford it after bill payments....
You are supposed to have to save up for a few months to get this fork. IT IS A FOX. Stop the bitching. If you have a minimum wage job, this fork was not made for you.
a lot of people that will be buying this fork will have minimum wage jobs bud. its all about the hours you get.
i asked for more. im at 12 a week now. my manager told me she'd be a reference on my resume. i cant get more hours, i only got 4 more cuz someone left. and NO ONE is hiring. remember, the economy is shit right now BUD.
jonnyfaulkner-youre not old. youre 19. i thought you were like 35 hahaha
konacowboy-you cant always have it your way (except at burger king). the boss is the boss. you cant just ask for more hours. it doesnt work like that
konacowboy-you cant always have it your way (except at burger king). the boss is the boss. you cant just ask for more hours. it doesnt work like that
about the hours; ya, I get it. But everyone is bitching about the price which is stupid. A fox is a fox and they are expensive. You can't expect the top product for a bargain price.
yeah i understand. thats why i only have a van r. haha. i also kinda dont want them because theyre super hard to service and maintain. oh btw having crappy stuff in the line up will ruin the rep. for instance, ellsworth, foes, and santa cruz dont have crappy bikes. kona and specialized do, which makes them look bad (in a way). i have an iron horse and this guy was like "what do you ride." i said "oh an iron horse." he said "oh...i saw some at sports authority."
theres so many jobs out there it's mental just need to get off your ass and go hand out 30 resume's in a hour.
sorry but your ignorant! around where i live no one is asking for jobs people are getting laid off every day because employers cant afford to pay sallories... im 13 and i understand that.
yeah. seriously. retirees are losing their 401 k's and theyre in big trouble buddy. this is like the 1929 depression but not AS bad i guess. riley, do you want some newsweek? i have Time, so i dont read newsweek lol
face plant king and suicide downhiller, you're both wrong... there's ALWAYS work for people who are willing to look for it. statistics will tell you that 80% of employment opportunities aren't advertised... you have to get out there, network with people, and in time, employment will find you...
lol theres always work and your a goof if you think otherwise, beggars cant be choosers, neither can people bitching about not having money.
I am guessing from the article it will be another great Fox fork, but the thing that would prevent me and a lot of other people from using this fork is the price.
Yeah its great they finally made a DJ specific fork considering so many people chose to lower other Fox forks than to run other DJ forks, but the 15mm QR was a bad choice IMO just cause it makes it a lot harder to find replacements quick and the price could be a lot lower. they may be quality but so are most other DJ specific forks that are generally below $1000(NZD) I guess thatd be about $500 USD?
Would have a lot of interest if they were a bit cheaper with 20mm
Would have a lot of interest if they were a bit cheaper with 20mm
your right, it looks like a wal-mart fork, just because of the size of the stanchions, but thats my opinion
so its basically a valved and lower travel version of a float? props to fox for keeping this so tight lipped!
im sure its been spotted, countless times. but it looks the exact same chassis as the float 32. and im sure theres not that much of a difference
The cartridges inside are different valved for the intended use, the stanchions go about 2 inches further down inside the lowers much like the 36s, and both the crown and arch have been beefed up alot compared to the standard floats.
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"placeholder orders will be accepted beginning 8/31, for shipment on November 16"
Nice! Right on time for my birthday, I want one!
Nice! Right on time for my birthday, I want one!
i just cant decided about a 15ql axle... i mean i know they a pushing it hard but there still arnt many hubs and most 20mm have a simple system now, like rockshox maxle, just dont know why they dont just run a 20? other then that awesome fork! fox always does it right
when will they make a 7 inch single crown fork? if it is fox quality then you will never need to run a totem or a 66!
if the did make a 180mm fox fork it would cost 2000$ there already 1600 for 160mm, no body could afford them
Here ya go http://bb.nsmb.com/showthread.php?t=125148 and here http://www.ihatebikes.net/wordpress/gear/trekworld-2010-trek-scratch-details-emerge-online/ and here http://www.bikeblog.nl/2009/08/04/omg-trek-2010-scratch-the-specs/ Not to be cocky just from every website ive seen its 170
That's nice, but Trek's official dealer site (called Dexter) says it's 160mm. Not to be cocky, but I work at a Trek dealer.
well i work for trek in waterloo,Wi and these are the specs,
Color 1 Gloss Black
Frame Alpha Red Aluminum w/ABP, Full Floater, alloy EVO Link, E2 tapered head tube, oversized pivot bearings, ISCG03 mounts, 142×12mm or 135×12mm rear axle, replaceable derailleur hanger, adjustable geometry, 170mm travel
Front Suspension Fox 36 Talas R w/air spring, lockout, rebound, alloy E2 tapered steerer, 20QR, 170mm travel
Rear Suspension Fox DHX Air 4.0 w/ ProPedal, bottom out resistance, rebound; 8.5″x2.5″
Wheels Bontrager Cousin Earl Pro Disc wheel system, 6 bolt, tubeless ready
Tires Bontrager FR-4, 2.35
Shifters Shimano XT
Front Derailleur Shimano XT, Direct Mount
Rear Derailleur Shimano XT Shadow
Crankset Shimano XT, 44/32/22
Bottom Bracket
Cassette SRAM PG970 11-34, 9 speed
Pedals
Saddle Bontrager Rhythm
Seat post Crank Brothers Joplin w/ height adjustment, 31.6
Stem Bontrager Rhythm
Handlebars Bontrager Big Earl, 25mm rise
Grips Bontrager Rhythm Dual Lock On
Headset FSA NO.57E, E-2 , ACB sealed bearings
Brake set Avid Elixir R Carbon hydraulic disc
Extras Trek fork sag meter, frame adapters for 135mm rear wheel
Color 1 Gloss Black
Frame Alpha Red Aluminum w/ABP, Full Floater, alloy EVO Link, E2 tapered head tube, oversized pivot bearings, ISCG03 mounts, 142×12mm or 135×12mm rear axle, replaceable derailleur hanger, adjustable geometry, 170mm travel
Front Suspension Fox 36 Talas R w/air spring, lockout, rebound, alloy E2 tapered steerer, 20QR, 170mm travel
Rear Suspension Fox DHX Air 4.0 w/ ProPedal, bottom out resistance, rebound; 8.5″x2.5″
Wheels Bontrager Cousin Earl Pro Disc wheel system, 6 bolt, tubeless ready
Tires Bontrager FR-4, 2.35
Shifters Shimano XT
Front Derailleur Shimano XT, Direct Mount
Rear Derailleur Shimano XT Shadow
Crankset Shimano XT, 44/32/22
Bottom Bracket
Cassette SRAM PG970 11-34, 9 speed
Pedals
Saddle Bontrager Rhythm
Seat post Crank Brothers Joplin w/ height adjustment, 31.6
Stem Bontrager Rhythm
Handlebars Bontrager Big Earl, 25mm rise
Grips Bontrager Rhythm Dual Lock On
Headset FSA NO.57E, E-2 , ACB sealed bearings
Brake set Avid Elixir R Carbon hydraulic disc
Extras Trek fork sag meter, frame adapters for 135mm rear wheel
Without any proof that you actually work for Trek, I'm going to go ahead and trust what it says on Dexter. Until that information changes, I have nothing else to go on.
http://www.ihatebikes.net/wordpress/gear/trekworld-2010-trek-scratch-details-emerge-online/
Comments.
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Here's what it says on Dexter for the Scratch 9 fork:
"Fox 36 Vanillia RC2 w/Fit cartridge, coil spring, preload, hi/lo compression, rebound, alloy E2 tapered steerer, 20QR, 160mm 15.5/17.5" blue; 19.5/21.5" green spring"
"Fox 36 Vanillia RC2 w/Fit cartridge, coil spring, preload, hi/lo compression, rebound, alloy E2 tapered steerer, 20QR, 160mm 15.5/17.5" blue; 19.5/21.5" green spring"
FINALLY!!! Fox took way to long to do this. Messing about with 36 Talas and stuff to lower them was a lot of trouble. This looks sweet. Oh and I agree with asylum.
Putting spacers in a fork that's easy to disassemble is a lot of trouble? Man you're high-maintenance.
Lowering a Talas for down to 100mm is stupidly easy. You twist the knob... As far as I know, you cannot modify a Talas cartridge like you can a U-Turn spring from RockShox. Floats come with instructions to lower them down to whatever travel you want. Fox doesn't make it hard at all to lower their forks. Newer 36 Vanillas, maybe, but Floats, easy as pie.
i love it but the 15mm is stupid the 20mm was fine and will stay that way.. i agree with most ppl..it is stupid to have a 15mm.
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Damn all you didn't realized it's only a 32 float painted in black with some differents stickers and ''new adjustements'' loll it's like the rock shox pike and argyle but it's an other story
I think the price point on this will deter a lot of potential buyers. I mean sure, it is a fox, but u can get an argyle or DJ 1, or pike for less. I think that most of these are gunna go to pros and hardcore riders, not for an average DJer who would be happy with an argyle or marz DJ.
You have to admit the 80-120mm travel adjust was a good idea though. perfect for the people who want smaller travel for park + Djs then bring them up for slopestyle courses and freeriding
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The 15mm might be a way for FOX to shed some weight. Maybe not the greatest area to but people want lighter. Companies should make things universal so people don't buy something and then figure out that they have to overhaul their rid just cause of one part.
so, FOX, a very successful company, with many engineers are being out smarted by people on pinkbike? i doubt it, im sure they know what they are doing. i like the look of the fork, just a little outta my price range tho.
I like that fox is showing direct response to consumer requests, a lot of people have been asking for this for a long time,
but other then that, all I see is a serious lack of effort to develop something completely new and different. Basically they made a few adjustments to the damper, which I would bet don't make that much of an effective difference to most riders. They didn't bother to design newer larger stanchions or lowers, that would add stiffness, nor did are they making a 20mm option which is just downright stupid, If your going to drop 831 dollars on a fork, you don't want to have to spend the extra 200+ for a good front wheel to match it. For some reason they kept the lock out featureas of the Float RLC, why would you need that for a pure DJ or 4X bike? its just more added weight.
I would much rather see a 34-36mm stanchion air fork with independent high low speed compression (possibly rebound as well) with 20mm axel and a 15mm option. I'm in the market for a new DJ, 4X fork, and I know I'll pass on this and save the extra $231 and just by a regular float rlc.
but other then that, all I see is a serious lack of effort to develop something completely new and different. Basically they made a few adjustments to the damper, which I would bet don't make that much of an effective difference to most riders. They didn't bother to design newer larger stanchions or lowers, that would add stiffness, nor did are they making a 20mm option which is just downright stupid, If your going to drop 831 dollars on a fork, you don't want to have to spend the extra 200+ for a good front wheel to match it. For some reason they kept the lock out featureas of the Float RLC, why would you need that for a pure DJ or 4X bike? its just more added weight.
I would much rather see a 34-36mm stanchion air fork with independent high low speed compression (possibly rebound as well) with 20mm axel and a 15mm option. I'm in the market for a new DJ, 4X fork, and I know I'll pass on this and save the extra $231 and just by a regular float rlc.
When will Fox wake up and get in the 180mm aggressive Freeride market to compete with the 66 and totem?
they are missing out on so many loyal Fox Shox riders who would love to see this happen!
they are missing out on so many loyal Fox Shox riders who would love to see this happen!
one of the scratches comes with a 170mm 36 its probably at this point going to be OE only but who knows
The Scratch does NOT come with a 170mm travel Fox 36. The specs on the dealer-only site list it with 160mm of travel.
f*ck THE 15mm Axle thats f*ckING DUMB what about us all that want to change over are old stuff its f*cking time they just man up and make a real f*cking fork for the people and not the factories
yap of course 50usd dont make the difference , i just said that the
implement of the hub in the market is just about marketing, or meabe it has a 30% of Innovation in technology.
implement of the hub in the market is just about marketing, or meabe it has a 30% of Innovation in technology.
i wonder why fox didn't released it early'r in the first place but it's good to see fox developing new forks again
I am going to have to go ahead and say. Having to switch up wheels sucks but I don't care. I am just happy to see Fox bringing out a DJ fork. Also needing new hubs gives me a chance to totally re-examine and reinvent my bike for next season.
I know not everyone can afford to make these changes but you young guys don't worry. You will grow up and start making enough cash to devote a little bit more to your hobbies and start getting the nice stuff.
I know not everyone can afford to make these changes but you young guys don't worry. You will grow up and start making enough cash to devote a little bit more to your hobbies and start getting the nice stuff.
Finally, a 4X specific fork, I want one, too bad I just bough a F120 QR15 and am having it lowered to 90mm....
i think a lot of you are missing the point. 15mm axle, light weight, these are some serious forks made for serious 4x racing. stick with you old forks if you don't like the 15mm axle. i am amazed by how many people have had negative comments about these forks. i am personally a rock shox dude but if i had some spare cash i would love a pair of these. ride on
in genral foxes weigh exactly what they say on the box or verry close
bear in mmind this is prety much a fox 32 wich is even lighter so this a a very aceptable weight
bear in mmind this is prety much a fox 32 wich is even lighter so this a a very aceptable weight
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I saw this fork being tested at my local dirtjumping park in San Jose last month. But, the ones I saw were white with gold stancions (sp). I asked the fox rep ( the one testing the fork ) when fox is gonna come out with a fork strictly for 4X / dirtjumping. He just pointed down at his fork with a smile on his face 
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It's great to see that Fox have brought out this fork to meet the requests of everyone but I don't think it is all that special. It looks to me like a 32 Float that has been lowered and they have changed a few things. 15mm axle?!? What dirt jumper wants that?!? And it needs 36mm stantions as well.
I'm still gonna get a Argyle 409 though
I'm still gonna get a Argyle 409 though
how meanypeople that are bitching about the 15mm axle have a bike with a 1.5 head tube or or even a 20mm bolt, when they all came outthey where all pointless and no one needed them now you cant live with out them.
and if you keep braking stuff learn to ride smoother.
but the fork looks good bit to costly me thinks like every thing in the sport.
and if you keep braking stuff learn to ride smoother.
but the fork looks good bit to costly me thinks like every thing in the sport.
its not really about the 15mm being weaker or flexible, but most modern DJ and 4X forks use 20mm axel. So if your upgrading forks from say an argyle, pike, Gold Series, lowered 36 etc you will need to buy a new wheel, or relace a new hub in the wheel you currently have. Kinda a big pain in the ass if your already spending the ridiculous amount this fork costs (IMO)
I saw a video of Jared riding the 831, looked really smooth, and really progressive, looked really appropriate for DJ or 4X. It is good to see fox coming with new designs and forks, but imo a 180 mm fork to compete with the totem and 66, would have been better. They can lower the float, why not make a vanilla 36 longer and maybe with 38mm stanchions, a missing piece between the 36's and the 40's.
at the current currency rate that means that these would be around £500 in the uk that in my opinion isnt to bad since my f100's cost more then that normally
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fox doesn't have any idea how popular a 100mm DJ fork with no adjustments and a 20mm axle would be. there are no good DJ forks out there anymore. WHY CANT FOX COME OUT WITH A REASONABLY PRICED DJ FORK!!!
if the did make a 180mm fox fork it would cost 2000$ there already 1600 for 160mm, no body could afford them
holy shit that looks so nice. a bit to expensive for me but but maybe for my next build! ONLY 3.8 POUNDS :OOOOOO
Im sure the fork will ride nice ,most fox forks do.But the price is riciculous and the 15mm axle is a major bummer.
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PIKES 4 eva rockshox pikes are alot better and they have 20mm axel instead of a stupid 15mm what !!!
I think that this looks like an amazing fork, but on the other hand. No matter how good it is it cannot be worth $831, that is just way to expensive for my (and I would assume most other rider's) bugets when you could get an argyle or a dirtjumper for less than half the cost. Sure it's almost two pounds lighter but is that really worth the extra cash? And why use a 15mm axle that is just more dicking around to get this fork setup on you bike. If I ever see the day when this fork is half the price with a 20mm axle then that will be the day that I buy it.
I want one plus they need to make a 20mm option as many top dirt jump brands do not cover the 15qr system
why 15 that makes no f*cking sense, its too hard to run around and find different parts 20mm is fine
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Not too fussed on the 32mm stanchions would be nice a bit bigger but i would not run these purley because or the qr15!! Dont most DJ/4X bikes run 20mm? Thats a big mistake on their part in my opinion.
Price is NOT ridiculous for what you're getting. Price is set by the company, but the stores that will sell them are going to be exorbitant. Just the way she goes.
For all those wondering why Fox is using the 15mm axle, Its because they're to cheap and lazy to make a new set of 32m lowers... or uppers... or spring... or anything really new.
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we need everyone to mail fox demanding a 20mm option.15mm come on fox wake up!
everything on the spec is great till you get to the 15mm QR then its like noooooooooooo
not getting one til they make it 20 I will keep my argyle
everything on the spec is great till you get to the 15mm QR then its like noooooooooooo
not getting one til they make it 20 I will keep my argyle
This fork is so similar to a 32 float RLC with 15mm axle. I wouldnt even call it a new fork at all. It's just a revalved 32 float pretty much. I'm sure you could get a 32 float pushed to be exactly the same as it. I don't agree with all this bickering about the 15mm axle. If your going to be forking out the money for a fox fork, a little extra for a new hub isnt a big deal. I consider it a replacement for shitty 9mm axles
I love 20mm!!
If I will be able to buy this, I have to replace my 20mm hubs !
It's not economy
please rereae a fork made by Fox with Maxle
If I will be able to buy this, I have to replace my 20mm hubs !
It's not economy
please rereae a fork made by Fox with Maxle
racer fork! DJ riders dont have the money to pay and blow out another fork. also, we(have not posted my recent pix) ride hard-20mm! when you really ride hard then wieght is not the issue. there are more DJ riders around then racers.
of course for half the price almost you could go with a velvet r fork....:-)
i wonder how much mark-up (is it like x5???) they have from prod. price to retail...Based on massive diffusion, an effort on prices could be done honestly....masses would also buy more often in that case possibly....
But then it s just me...:-))
i wonder how much mark-up (is it like x5???) they have from prod. price to retail...Based on massive diffusion, an effort on prices could be done honestly....masses would also buy more often in that case possibly....
But then it s just me...:-))
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same lowers as the other fox 32's isnt it? hardly a new fork then. should be beefed up, less adjustments, simple internals, 20mm axle and cheaper. Like someone said above - pikes = sorted. they are light though! but for dj'ing weight isnt a massive factor
15QR is much better than 20mm, its just a shame it didn't com out first. I think it looks great and will probably ride great. Think about it, can you name one bad Fox suspension Product??? Fox is always a couple years behind because they will only release stuff once its perfect where as other companies have one or 2 years of failing products.. 29er forks they were 3 years after, DH fork was pretty late, now a DJ fork, maybe a 40 float is next??
that'd be sweet. im still waiting on a 180mm fork from them though. it would be killer. maybe call it the 38? just an idea.
Are there only DJ riders on Pinkbike? I think it is for 4X mainly, seeing as Graves has been testing several versions of the forks, and wasn't too happy with the first one. Maybe for DJ it has too many dials, but for 4X it will be perfect, can't wait
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i felt the fork at crankworx, on the frame in the pic at the fox tent. it felt basically like a stiff 32 float. not the best design if u ask me...
it does look really sick. im gonna wait till they smarten up and make a 20qr then its goin on my majesty build
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everybody bitchin about "too pricey for a DJ fork" ...anybody notice its also for DS and 4X? in fact..what i gather from actually reading the article i would say it would far better serve riders used in that capacity, as opposed to being smashed to hell on some dirt jumps..but i do agree that 15qr. i would say we should have 2 sizes..10 for XC and such, and 20 for DJ, DH, etc..
I can't people are complaining that it feels like a stiff 32 float and that it is a revalved float. I think that the biggest reason I would want a Fox DJ fork is because it would feel like a Fox. Fox forks aren't cheap either, never have been. Everyone had to expect a price tag like this.
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I rebuilt a set of carbon wheels with Hope Pro II hubs so that I can run it on any bike or fork I have. I lost about 40grams from the DT240S that was in there - big deal.
Personnaly, I think a DJ/4X fork should be 20mm - I really don't care about a few grams here or there. Pure weight weenies don't ride DJ/4X.
Personnaly, I think a DJ/4X fork should be 20mm - I really don't care about a few grams here or there. Pure weight weenies don't ride DJ/4X.
Why did some components in the industry go to 15mm? Let me shed some light on the situation:
DT Swiss made a 20mm fork. People hucked and DHed it to bits saying that the fork was designed for DH/hucking because it was a 20mm and therefore built for the task. To stop people complaining when they broke DT Swiss 20mm forks, DT Swiss stopped making 20mm forks and only do a 15mm now. For DT, 15mm is about the intended market, not trying to get you to buy more shit.
DT Swiss made a 20mm fork. People hucked and DHed it to bits saying that the fork was designed for DH/hucking because it was a 20mm and therefore built for the task. To stop people complaining when they broke DT Swiss 20mm forks, DT Swiss stopped making 20mm forks and only do a 15mm now. For DT, 15mm is about the intended market, not trying to get you to buy more shit.
the only reason most people are complaining is cause they dont want to have to buy a new front hub, if you can afford the fork you can afford a new hub, simples.
basically it is a Float. the price tag is redicilous. For that money you can by a 36 Float, lower it and have a better fork. As for the 15mm they are esay to come by DT makes a conversion, Hope Pro II's can be converted, Hadley's can be converted and Atomlab is coming out with a conversion for their hubs. So the excuse that I don't want to buy a new wheel or hub is kinda mute. the 15mm is stiffer for ds, 4x and dj. It is also lighter.
The whole idea of the dampening is so that low speed movement i.e. pedalling doesn't effect the fork but high speed i.e. landing a jump, rock garden will move the fork... I'd pick 15mm over 20mm for 4X, 15mm replaced 9mm which had been around for around 100 years and started out on road bikes... It weighs the same as 9mm but isn't far off 20mm in stiffness...
i agree 15mm is wrong but i checked and its not like there isnt enought companys making 15mm front hubs. http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/SearchResults.aspx?Search=15mm+hub
take a look for urselves and if u still want to run ur 20mm hubs u could also go and get some 20mm-15mm shims made for ur hubs it a time consuming thing but its totally worth while.
take a look for urselves and if u still want to run ur 20mm hubs u could also go and get some 20mm-15mm shims made for ur hubs it a time consuming thing but its totally worth while.
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