Video: The Art of Data Acquisition with SRC / Antidote Solutions

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tilgate-trails-builder (Sep 17, 2014 at 11:36)

ill stick to the good old car park test!

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JackSB (Sep 17, 2014 at 15:49)

Absolutely useless video. Not a single thing about what they are optimizing for. Cool toys, but how are they using them? That is what the geek in me is interested in.

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Trekfueler (Sep 17, 2014 at 20:20)

Agree! Plus how would they get a proper setting after taking all that gear off? Wouldn't its weight affect its setup? Like setting a proper sag with your gear off rather than doing it with on?. ( that's great now back a few clicks since the gears off the bike).

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bifuu (Sep 17, 2014 at 21:12)

agree

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panaphonic (Sep 18, 2014 at 0:44)

No details. What's the point?

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Groscreux FL (Sep 18, 2014 at 10:44)

Agree ! I hoping more technical explaination, curve and data comments and actions which are resulting of this data. But nothing appart what we already know.

"With explanations from specialists in this field, Frederic Bernard and Alex Guiral of Antidote Solutions, you will be able to better understand this high technology and what it achieves. " Sorry but absolutly no !

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eatridegrow (Sep 17, 2014 at 13:01)

Fucking music for the deaf. Made it 2.12 before I threw my laptop in the river.

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hamncheez (Sep 17, 2014 at 14:21)

Not my first choice either

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EnduroFan84 FL (Sep 17, 2014 at 20:07)

How did you reply then?

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ka-brap (Sep 18, 2014 at 3:01)

tis the Euro way of turning what could have been a good edit into a shitty music video.

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jacobite321 FL (Sep 18, 2014 at 10:41)

You made it to 2.12, good effort. 00.48 for me !!

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action789 (Sep 18, 2014 at 12:21)

You sir! Just made my evening!

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cougar797 (Sep 17, 2014 at 11:10)

It looks like tuning is more of a science then an art. I like it.

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WAKIdesigns (Sep 17, 2014 at 11:24) (Below Threshold)

Aren't both terms meaning everything and nothing? Science is my religion I walk the fine line, I know no fear hahahaha

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cougar797 (Sep 17, 2014 at 13:15)

Scientific: methodical: proceeding in a systematic and methodical way. Using test numbers to make decisions. Precision engineering at work on the trails. So cool.

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WAKIdesigns (Sep 17, 2014 at 13:27)

ummm yes... then a guy without a chain get 4th on World Champs... If you are into cycling, the "sciences" you may want a deeper look into is psychology, body mechanics, nutrition - those shaves minutes of YOUR run, not seconds, Good night!

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cougar797 (Sep 17, 2014 at 14:13)

I wasn't arguing that there isn't other important areas but even you WAKI can't argue that tuning suspension with data acquisition isn't using the scientific method lol. I’m displeased with the irrelevance of your last post. I hold you in higher regard then that.

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WAKIdesigns (Sep 17, 2014 at 14:50)

Sorry, Don't know what bittten mu balls

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slidways (Sep 17, 2014 at 21:48)

+1 Waki designs
Riding has such a big human factor, you can get the best out of a tuning system and still not end up with a set up that gives the rider confidence. If the rider lacks confidence in their kit and isn't comfortable pushing the bike, you pretty much already have given away 1st place. But this is brilliant I like it, its a step forward, used in conjunction with rider feed back and personal want its a good tool.

But we have known this for years and still people search high and low for the millisecond gains in kit.

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ka-brap (Sep 18, 2014 at 3:03)

I really like this idea and I would love to try it. Personally, I think I am well versed in suspension set up and my bike "feels" good on rough tracks but I would be super curious to see how accurate my set up is.

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Sshredder (Sep 17, 2014 at 13:11)

Video footage of riding gnar. With no machine groomed b.s. This is where you test suspensions. I realy enjoyed the riding filmed. I use a travel meter. Its called a zip tie.....sometimes I get tecky and use an o ring.

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vinceemond (Sep 17, 2014 at 11:13)

Rider footage is sped up? (look at the leaves)

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rufo (Sep 17, 2014 at 11:16)

its apart of the video editing some sped up and some slow motion

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ka-brap (Sep 18, 2014 at 23:52)

Knowing many Aussie ski instructors, they say "datas". Perhaps they're all wrong, but I never cared to debate cultural subtleties of English variations with them. I still only say math and data

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bigburd (Sep 17, 2014 at 12:51)

How much does all this kit weigh ? Surely enough that you would have to run firmer settings , or maybe even a heavier spring to compensate and when you take it off the settings gained will not be so accurate ?

Or am I looking at this the wrong way?

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BansheeBike (Sep 17, 2014 at 13:07)

I thought the same, but figure that they compensate for that with settings.

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kcapitan (Sep 17, 2014 at 16:53)

Its probably a lot less thank you think. You can see in the video they are using an AiM EVO4, which weighs in at just 240g. I would bet they only add 1 or 2 kg to the bike with all the wires and other sensors.

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ka-brap (Sep 18, 2014 at 3:04)

These guys also seem smarts enough to factor that in, which I am sure they did or could account for.

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niko-bellic (Sep 17, 2014 at 13:52)

I've thought of building a data acquisition kit with Arduino for shits and giggles, but the cost of linear pots turned me off completely

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kcapitan (Sep 17, 2014 at 16:47)

If you want to make your own lin-pot on the cheap, you can use a spool of wire on a rotary spring connected to a rotary-pot. I've seen this used on home built race cars and I've heard it works, although I've never tried it myself so I can't vouch for its effectiveness.

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niko-bellic (Sep 17, 2014 at 18:09)

It would probably work for someone that wants something cheap and doesn't care for accuracy of the data. I can predict that there will be noisy data issues from the vibration of the wire. Another issue would be the wire not moving at the same rate as the fork. Take a big impact on where the shaft speed of the suspension is very high for example. The retracting of the wire could very likely be delayed behind the suspension and slack would build up on the wire.

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foghorn1 (Sep 19, 2014 at 16:20)

Nico Bellic, why not make a rack and pinion actuator for the rotary pot? You could probably find a rack an pinion in an old photocopier or printer or...

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matt5311 (Sep 19, 2014 at 4:00)

i can see this becoming what the power meter is to roadies. A stupidly expensive luxury item that makes little difference to the average joe but very sought after.

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GittinBizy (Sep 19, 2014 at 8:28)

Didn't know it takes rocket surgery to setup suspension proper...

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matzx (Sep 17, 2014 at 10:54)

is somehow related Antidote Solutions and Antidote Bikes?

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antidotebikes (Sep 17, 2014 at 11:16)

not a bit

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PedroVieira (Sep 17, 2014 at 11:23)

Why?

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Blablablup123 (Sep 17, 2014 at 11:35)

because no

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PedroVieira (Sep 17, 2014 at 12:02)

Meanie

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Blablablup123 (Sep 17, 2014 at 16:34)

Sorry...

But honestly, what did you expect? they arent related, well... because they arent related.

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hamncheez (Sep 17, 2014 at 14:17)

Couldn't you put accelerometers on the fork lowers and uppers, doing the same thing that the linear sensors do? They could communicate wirelessly with an andreno or that new Intel chip with no wires and virtually no weight.

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frizstyler (Sep 17, 2014 at 15:14)

not as precise,and definitely way more advanced

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muska10 FL (Sep 18, 2014 at 7:29)

Why so much sped up footage? Like the viewers won´t spot that, at all...

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rocky-x FL (Sep 17, 2014 at 12:14)

this is how maury povich figures things out, right?

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argonaut45 (Sep 17, 2014 at 13:38)

I love this pinkbike!! I guess this means I am nerd

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tdunk (Sep 17, 2014 at 21:50)

But can it measure the "grin factor"?

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jedrzeja (Sep 17, 2014 at 23:02)

La fete. Frog cuisine dégustation.

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killerisation (Sep 17, 2014 at 13:59)

'Data' is plural.

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the-one1 (Sep 17, 2014 at 17:54)

Data is a Lieutenant Commander in Start Fleet

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ka-brap (Sep 18, 2014 at 3:06)

outside of the US English, it is common to pluralize "maths" and "datas"

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killerisation (Sep 18, 2014 at 14:12)

True for maths, not true for data. I'm British!

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ka-brap (Sep 18, 2014 at 23:53)

Knowing many Aussie ski instructors, they say "datas". Perhaps they're all wrong, but I never cared to debate cultural subtleties of English variations with them. I still only say math and data