Michelin Wild Mud Tire– Review

Dec 22, 2016
by Paul Aston  
Michelin Wild Mud Advanced

Michelin mountain bike tires aren't as common of a sight as they once were, although the French company still supports a few top riders like Jerome Clementz and Nicolas Vouilloz. I remember the days of the widely adopted and unbeatable Comp 16 tires, which at the time blew everything else out of the water regarding pure downhill grip, casing support and puncture resistance; the same tire today, around 15 years after its launch would still hold its own on the hillside. These days, downhill tires from the French brand are non-existent for modern wheel sizes, but a range of cross-country and heavyweight enduro tires fill the line.
Michelin Wild Mud Advanced

• Soft Magi-X compound
• Michelin TS aramid bead
• Cuttable blocks
• Reinforced casing
• Tubelss Ready
• Weight: 27.5" - 1000g (actual)
• Size: 27.5" or 29" x 2.25"
• Price: $94.99 USD / €62.90
bike.michelin.com

The Michelin Wild Mud Advanced Reinforced isn't interested in dieting, and at over a kilo per tire it won't be speeding you up to your stage start, but its tough casing and ultra tacky Magi-X compound promises to pay dividends on the downs. The Wild Muds also pay little interest in keeping your bank balance healthy being priced at the top of the market at $94.99 USD / €62.90 MSRP.


Michelin Wild Mud Advanced Reinforced
Uncut, the Wild Mud offers 8mm of bite...
Michelin Wild Mud Advanced Reinforced
Cut them down, and you are left with 5mm of penetration.


Construction, Casing, Compound and Cutting

The Wild Mud is available for 27.5" and 29" tires in a 2.25" casing. Mounted on a 27.5mm internal width DT-Swiss FR1950 wheelset, the tires inflate to just over two inches, slightly less than the 2.25" stamped on the sidewall. The Reinforced tag means an extra ply of material has been added over the entire casing, increasing the weight but more importantly adding snakebite and cut resistance.

The "Twisted" knob design is said to twist and straighten under braking and traction; as the tires unload, the blocks revert to their original position, helping to clear sticky mud. The narrowing stepped design of the knobs also helps to dig through the gloop in search of traction.

I'm not sure how, but Michelin have managed to patent cutting down tire knobs. Well, not quite, but they have patented their stepped block design. Instead of cutting each block by eye, or using Schwalbe's pre-set depth cutters, the knobs on the Wild Mud are stepped and offset to provide a natural guide for your snips. Leaving the tread at full 8mm length suits very deep and soft conditions; snip them down to 5mm and you have a more suitable all-rounder with less rolling resistance in between the fun parts of the trail. The steps are the same height on the side and center knobs, so the profile stays the same after cutting

Michelin's Magi-X compound is their latest formulation of rubber. The super soft, slow rebound and sticky rubber is designed to be used on the front, with the slightly harder Gum-X on the rear. The Gum-X compound is rated as 55a on the Michelin website, but they are secretive about the exact numbers of the Magi-X. I opted for a pair of Magi-X as I knew most of the time spent on these tires would be lift assisted, or grinding up to muddy and technical alpine downhills.


Michelin Wild Mud Advanced Reinforced
This tire managed around 20 runs on the back of a downhill bike on Morzine's infamous Pleney. That's about 80 minutes of real downhill riding, now it's ready to be cut down for its second lease of life.


On the Trail

Taking in the look and feel of the Wild Mud, it's clear to see that these aren't for XC whippets or people looking to spin around a trail center. These are designed for racing enduro, riding extreme terrain and hitting hard edges blind and fast,with regard only for the finish line clock. The Wild Mud is close to being a full throttle downhill tire, minus a couple hundred grams. In terms of damping levels and protection, the casing provides superb tracking over the ground, bump absorption, and puncture resistance.

Leaving the knobs at full length isn't necessary for all but the worst of conditions, and in their cut form are a great all-rounder if your local trails are typically damp and loose rather than dusty hardpack. Marketed as an enduro tire, the Wild Mud would also be a perfect option for lighter downhill riders in conditions when sharp, puncturing edges are softened by the mud.

While the Magi-X compound is incredibly grippy, the rear tire showed signs of wear after three days of downhill runs in Europe's finest mud. The best way to get your money's worth out of the tires is to ride them uncut at first, and then cutting the tire to get you fresh, sharp edges and a tire suitable for a different use.

Against its opponents, the Wild Mud loses out in terms of rolling resistance against everything out there. It's priced above nearly everything else too; that said I can't find a retailer online following recommendation and prices just over half the MSRP are popular.

The Wild Mud wins regarding pure grip and puncture resistance, and its damping characteristics also put it top of the class when it comes to taking on wet roots and rock. It's also a winner for its combination of the narrow, heavy duty casing, and soft rubber. I've found that narrow tires cut through the mud better than wider tires, and this fills the void between wider heavy duty tires like Schwalbe's Magic Mary and Maxxis' Shorty, and narrow lighter weight tires like Specialized's Storm and Bontrager's XR Mud.



Pinkbike's Take
bigquotesIf you are willing to pay the price, and don't mind the increased rolling resistance and weight, then the Wild Mud is close to unbeatable in soft conditions in terms of grip, damping, and puncture resistance. If I had to choose one tire for year round alpine mountain biking, this would be close to the top if the list. - Paul Aston



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73 Comments
  • 32 1
 What would be at the tip of the list?
  • 15 0
 Magic Mary would be mine. You can use in almost every condition and in trailstar compound it will last a long time. Only super loose, muddy condition require a different tire and that is where I recommend the Dirty Dan.
  • 12 1
 or Der Baron
  • 10 1
 @SintraFreeride: I'm not sure you got the pin.
  • 6 1
 I have found WTB vigilante's to work great in wonderful scottish winter conditions, I have them in the tough high grip option, they even go tubeless a treat and last ages too!
  • 5 0
 @SintraFreeride: I feel like "Dirty Dan" is somewhere in the corner of the room smirking now.....haha
  • 15 6
 Minion come on. Is this even a debate?
  • 4 0
 You misunderstood, he said the top if the list.
  • 3 3
 @adrennan: yeah Minions are hands-down the best, but I just mounted a 2.5WT Shorty up front for the winter and the grip is spectacular.
  • 4 0
 @Uuno: And what pin would that be?
  • 13 0
 Rock'R2 beats the DHF in every category. The Grip'r2 is also an aggressor killer. Hate to say this after being a Maxxis fanboi for so long but these new Michelin tires are the best out there.
  • 1 1
 @Boardlife69: I tried Grip'r2's got 1 punture per ride for 3 weeks. Every puncture looked identical, side nobs ripping themselves off taking the carcass with it!
Sbsolute pile of wank.
Straight back onto maxxis/schwalb for me.
  • 1 0
 @SintraFreeride: magic Mary is definitely my go to downhill tyre for all but hard packed bike parks (der kaiser projekt). Also, MMs are basically £30/€35 at the moment so perfect in every way.
  • 2 0
 @HardtailZero: I ran a Grip'R2 on the front of my new #endurbro bike before swapping it for a Der Baron Projekt, didn't really like the Grip'R2.

BUT!
The Wild Rock'R2 is by far the best allround tyre I have ever tried, as long as it's not muddy, it will outperform almost any tyre out there. Compared to my good old HR2's, they roll just as fast, but grip harder than a DHF on dry rocks and hard pack, the only tyre I've tried that keeps up with it on rocks is the Der Kaiser projekt, but that rolls a bit slower and wears faster. I will probably not get the Wild Mud as we have pretty dry conditions here most of the summer, and will just keep using Baron Projekts for fall riding.
  • 1 0
 If its super muddy and not many slippery roots abd rocks you cant beat a cut wet scream. Apart from that Conti make the mud king. Black chili compound, can be run in both directions depending on conditions (doesn't say they can but they work ace backwards). Can be cut as an intermediate tyre.
  • 23 2
 so the tire is made for Enduro and its not made to be riden as a rear tire. you take the tire put on the rear tire on a DH bike and go for some DH runs on a famous DH track??? Looks like Maxxis is paying a lot of money to PB to say bad things about a great tire... oh a mud tires rolls slow??? like any other mud tire.... oh the tire worn fast. like any soft compound mud tire when riding in the back tire and also dry terrain. great job PB!
  • 4 0
 In fairness, he did say at the end that it was one of the best tires around
  • 3 0
 No it was a Good review, the tire was pushed beyond its intended performance envelope (because only most people are not racers and sometimes not be botherd switching to the perfect rubber for a given condition ) and the tire performance was well over expectations.

In its intended use the tire was great.

Tires are a personal preferenser so if someone says "close to the top" someon else will have it as their favourite.
  • 3 0
 basically they say the tire was good but also is expensive, heavy, rolls slow and was destroyed in 80 minutes of riding.
  • 14 2
 At Decathlon you can find them in either 26", 27'5 or 29" for just 29.90€

www.decathlon.es/neumatico-btt-wildmud-advanced-26x200-tubeless-ready--id_8336144.html
  • 4 0
 Yes, but in 2.0 and i guess it's not the same casing and same rubber. Decathlon model is more XC oriented
  • 10 1
 I just have to do something to my bike today. I think I will cut my tread blocks. I have nothing else to do, and than I can post somewhere how cool I am because I cut my own tread. I mean these would be perfect if they only had 5mm of tread. I didn't really need 8mm of tread block but all the other tires were stupid, and no one else i know has these tires. I think I will crack open an IPA think about it, and grow a man beard with a manbun. It's going to be a good day.
  • 1 0
 @jason475 You legend Big Grin
  • 12 3
 I can't see much reason to look beyond a Maxxis Shorty if you want something that'll bite into anything yet remain on the light enough side of things to pedal reasonably well.
  • 1 0
 Have had really bad experiences with Maxxis and puncture resistance, I really like the Conti Baron Projekt for the wet season, it's a bitch to set up tubeless though, but puncture resistance of Contis is just insane.
  • 10 0
 Why would you put a super soft tyre like that on the back of a DH for runs on Pleney? Might as well take a belt sander to it
  • 1 0
 Yeah they make a tire for exactly those conditions (dry) and it out lasts the minion from my experience.
  • 5 0
 @Jokesterwild: and @honourablegeorge - the Pleney is one of the best mud testing grounds in the World, come over in June next year and you will see, haha
  • 1 0
 @paulaston: that I can confirm! or ride the slop over on the lower super morzine (albeit forbidden) trails...
  • 1 0
 @paulaston: Totally agree, all the differents freeride tracks that you can find along pleney and just a mud fest during summer, and dust fest during winter ;-)
  • 6 1
 "Cuttable blocks" as a USP? They're really dredging the bucket of marketing-wank with that one. Gimme some knippex and any tread block is cuttable.
As for the tyre, I recall my friend's old Mich Mud 3. It was awesome in the slop (as were Maxxis Wet Screams) but unless the conditions really call for it, I'd go for a more all-rounder like a Shorty. But then my days of changing tyres for different conditions are well behind me so I just slide around on HRIIs all year round.
  • 8 0
 All we want is a mud tyre comparison!
  • 4 0
 I've recently bought a pair of these and did a mini test against my old spesh hillbilly grids.Conditions were fairly muddy and the michelins were much slower,it definitely needs mega slop for them to work. So i just want more rain now so they get some bloody use!!!
  • 3 0
 I got a pair of these from next day tyres for my rigid single speed and this time of year.

Ridiculous amount of drag from the rear tyre between tracks/trails but equally ridiculous amounts of grip on everything.

Currently running a mountain king on the back and one of these on the front which seems a good balance for current (slightly) sloppy conditions.

Good honest review thanks for confirming my thoughts.
  • 1 0
 So what you're saying is, they roll slowly and also don't grip very well?

This review seems to disagree with you about the grip part. They do look like they would be good in mud.
  • 3 1
 I don't get it, if a considerable amount of people are supposed to trim the tire down right after buying, why not just make two tires with different knob height? I mean I guess the manufacturer saves money on molds, but they are basically selling you some homework with the tire, which to me sounds like a terrible proposition. Also pretty wasteful.
  • 2 0
 I rode a set of these for a full year in the southern UK on my singlespeed. The trails were about as muddy as I have ever seen with lots of wet roots to manage as well and these tires performed flawlessly. I'll grant that their rolling speed isn't great but if you want traction in the worst of conditions, these tires cant be beat.
  • 7 3
 80 minutes = half life!!! So 160 minutes for $94.99 USD!!!
Now, where's my sponsor.
  • 6 0
 Who buys a soft mud tire to run it in a dry bike park? I'm sure it lasts a lot more in the right conditions
  • 1 0
 @madbob9: Freeride tracks along the pleney are far far far away to be a "dry bike park" just watch this video between 0:45 and 1:55 and also after 2:45 you will see where @paulaston tested those tyres.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgJWYgKb3wY

And just think that on this video it's dry condition so i let you imagine when it's muddy
  • 5 1
 A Michelin logo on the side of the tire always makes a bike look that much cooler.
  • 2 1
 As a general note with Michelin, I think it's a shame that they're missing out on the plus tire trend or just past 2.35" mark. (we therefore also miss out on what Michelin potentially could offer..)
Imagine the durability and compound mixes with a 29"x2.4"/2.5" Michelin wild race'r
  • 3 0
 The lack of centre tread makes me wonder how it feels when conditions slightly get better than soupy mud shit show.
  • 3 0
 I think that Jerome Clementz has used these tyres cut down, with success in varied conditions.
  • 4 0
 What happened to the Michelin Cam Zink was working on? Vaproware....
  • 2 0
 Cause the first thing everyone wants to do after they spend a Benji on a tire, is cut it up
  • 7 6
 What no comments about "no 26".

Here goes - where are the 26" versions Mich?
  • 2 2
 If you cut the tires down it goes from 8-5mm? How bout just ride them and wear them down to 5mm. I'm not too sure why this is a feature.
  • 6 1
 How about you read the article?
  • 1 0
 @Mountain-Dalek: Personally being able to make your tread smaller is stoopid, that's right with two O's. Ride your bike wear them down... I dunno, maybe you're so elite and feel this would you an advantage over all your elite competition that you face. But as a normal shredding dude I love the feeling of fresh grippy tires and see no reason to lessen that enjoyment. To me to go from 8-5mm seem like blowing through almost half the tread life of the tire in one fell swoop and denying ones self the confidence of that new rubber feeling.
  • 4 0
 @Morebike:
From the article : "ride them uncut at first, and then cutting the tire to get you fresh, sharp edges and a tire suitable for a different use."

That's the feature you were wondering about.
  • 2 0
 @Morebike: If you cut them you will get those sharp edges back, and you need those to grip in loose conditions.
Back when I still rode some MX, I considered a tire with rounded block edges worn out, as the grip was often halved just from being a little rounded.
  • 1 0
 I don't recall ever seeing a tread pattern with that big of a void in the middle.
  • 1 0
 Mud tires is something I have never understood. Where is it acceptable to ride muddy trails?
  • 2 0
 Sorry but just reading this now and had to comment...seriously? Have you ever left California? We've only had about 3 days of rain in the last 8 weeks and my local trails in Ireland are still a bog. They dried out after 4 weeks and then it rained for a day and now they are bog again and will remain so for weeks regardless of how dry it is. If people in Europe didn't ride wet trails they would never ride. Ireland and Scotland almost never have mud free trails.

No offense intended but i'm amazed at how out of touch some people can be.
  • 2 1
 Got a pair of these from decathlon for little over £20 a tyre.
  • 1 0
 What makes a $90 tire worth $90?
  • 9 11
 buy a tyre and spend 2 hours with a cutter...............ew
  • 13 0
 2 hours? What are you, a sloth? Wink
  • 14 0
 @DrShovel: No, just been utilising jamaican herbs between each cut Big Grin
  • 7 10
 I liked it more the first time when it was called a Shorty
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