Niner has a history of designing lightweight, fleet-footed 29ers. They upped the ante for 2016 with this bike here—the all-new RKT 9 RDO. “RDO”—if you are not among those who call themselves “Ninerds”—stands for Race Day Only and while previous Niner models bear that appellation, none has ever worn it as sincerely as the new RKT 9. Niner made several tweaks to their formula, aimed at bringing a bit of progressive style to the new bike. They’ve shortened the rear end and grew the top tube a bit, but make no mistake, this is truly a bike designed to gobble miles as quickly as possible. Race day, indeed.
Niner RKT 9 RDO Details• Intended use: XC
• Wheel size: 29
• Head angle: 71°
• Front Suspension Travel: 100 millimeters
• Rear Suspension Travel: 90 millimeters
• Carbon front and rear triangles
• Sizes: XS, S, M, L, XL
• Weight (size L w/o pedals): 25.95 pounds (11.78 kg)
• MSRP: $4,500 USD
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@NinerBikes In recent years, Niner’s cross-country weapon, the Jet 9, has edged a bit closer towards the trail bike category. The RKT 9 RDO models (all six of them) are XC and proud. Each shares the same lightweight carbon frame, paired with different build kits. You could spend as much as $9,500 for the top-tier, XTR-equipped version, but we opted for the base-level bike. Clad in a SRAM GX1 kit, this "2-star" model sells for $4,500, yet boasts the same high-end frame. The RKT 9 RDO frame (with FOX Float DPS Factory rear shock) sells for $3,000 by its lonesome.Frame DetailsShaving grams is generally a preoccupation for anyone looking to land on the podium. The RKT 9 RDO fares well when it's time to hoist it on the scales. The carbon frame and far shock combo weigh in at just 2,041 grams (4.5 pounds). Impressive as hell. The entire frame is made of carbon. The only exception here are the aluminum linkages, which Niner says are both lighter and stiffer than carbon versions. For comparison's sake, the RKT 9 frame is a full half-pound lighter than Niner's previous flagship racer, the Jet 9 RDO, which was no boat anchor itself.
Everyone and their kid brother in China claims to utilize a proprietary (or at the very least, incredibly thorough and precise) construction process when it comes to turning wads of pre-preg into finished composite frames. Same drill here. Niner's RDO Carbon Compaction System (CCS) incorporates internal foam-core molds during the curing process to precisely control wall thickness and material distribution. End result? According to Niner, the reduction of voids and resin pooling. Or, in other words, fewer structural imperfections and less grams.
The RKT 9 RDO, however, isn't simply a light bike. Niner went to pains to beef things up while they were waging war on frame weight. To that end, this is the first Niner model to wear a Boost 148 rear end. The forums are full of people who will still argue that Boost is just another scam aimed at milking your checking account for all its worth. Most engineers, on the other hand, will tell you that those extra couple of millimeters might as well be miles when it comes time to try and shorten chain stays and still have enough breathing room to make big tires and drivetrain components play nice together. There's also the potential for stiffness gains on bigger hoops. But I digress... the new Niner rocks the Boost 148 out back and sports 439-millimeter (17.3-inch) chain stays, which isn't setting a world record for short chainstays, but is a good 15 millimeters (.6 inches) shorter than those on their Jet 9. There's also enough room here to fit a 2.4-inch tires out back, if you are so inclined.
In addition to stiffening and lightening up their carbon chassis, Niner wanted to make a more maneuverable XC racer, which explains why they achieved a lower standover height here than on their previous models. It's a definite step in the right direction. Finish quality on the frame is top notch--Niner has always placed a premium on spiffing up things that most companies sort of shrug at, such as pivot hardware. While all their RKT 9 models are equipped with single-ring drivetrains, the bike features a very clean, removable front derailleur mount, as well as provisions for Di2 routing and internal and external dropper-post lines. In short, the frame will work with any drivetrain or seat post you can imagine.
Suspension DesignThe RKT 9 RDO pivots on a short-travel (90-millimeter) version of the brand’s longstanding Constantly Varying Arc (“CVA”) suspension system. CVA is a sort of kissing cousin to VPP, DW-Link, Maestro and other dual short-link designs that harness chain tension to combat suspension squat. Niner’s design includes a lower link that sits below the bottom bracket. It looks like something absolutely precious that is destined to be destroyed in short order. I’ve tested a baker’s dozen worth of Niners over the years, however, and have yet to mangle the lower link. The link on the RKT 9 fared just as well.
While some people will never be satisfied with the look of that lower link dangling down there, Niner contends that its link location is critical. Chain torque, in theory, applies a force that wants to rotate the top link forward as well as a force that wants to pull the bottom link forward and down. Since the links are connected by the solid rear triangle, chain forces are essentially neutralized and that allows the rear suspension to act independently of your pedaling. That's the theory anyway. I'm not going to suggest that I have an engineering degree or a long history of designing rear suspension, and that Niner's line of reasoning rings true to me. I mean, it makes sense on paper, but I can only tell you how the bike actually rode--we'll get to that in a second.
GeometryDespite all the new and improved burbling under the RKT 9 RDO's hood, the bike is a bit of a throwback. Niner makes some definite nods to the latest trends in frame design--they've shortened their rear end considerably, they've got the bottom bracket reasonably low (13.2-inches) and they've added some length to the front end, but at 610 millimeters (24 inches), the RKT 9 RDO's top tube is shorter than what you'll find on many of the latest models. The 71-degree head tube is also a whole lot steeper than the norm. Niner, however, wanted to create a quick-handling race bike and the flip side of the shorter front center, steep head angle and short-ish chain stays is that a size Large RKT 9 RDO also sports a wickedly short 1125-millimeter (44.3-inch) wheelbase. Quick head angle, short wheelbase, fairly sporty rear end...you can probably see where this thing is heading.
Specifications
Specifications
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Release Date
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September 2015 |
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Price
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$4500 |
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Travel |
90-mm rear travel, 100-mm fork travel |
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Rear Shock |
Fox Float DPS Factor w/handlebar remote |
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Fork |
RockShox Reba RL Solo Air, 100MM, 110X15MM |
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Cassette |
Shimano XT 11-42 |
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Crankarms |
SRAM S1000 PF30 32T |
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Chainguide |
None |
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Bottom Bracket |
SRAM PF30 |
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Pedals |
None |
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Rear Derailleur |
SRAM GX1 11-speed |
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Chain |
SRAM PC 1130 |
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Shifter Pods |
SRAM GX1 |
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Handlebar |
Niner Flat Top Alloy, 710-mm |
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Stem |
Niner |
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Grips |
Niner |
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Brakes |
SRAM DB5, 180/160 G2CS Rotors |
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Wheelset |
NINER ALLOY, 110X15MM Front, 148 X 12MM Rear |
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Tires |
Maxxis Ikon SC 2.35 F, 2.20 R |
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Seat |
Niner |
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Seatpost |
Niner Alloy seat post, 400-mm |
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Set-UpNiner contends that their CVA suspension is both efficient and smooth under power. Theory and fact generally pair up pretty well with the RKT 9, with one caveat: I continue to find CVA more fickle than other designs. While it’s no harder to set sag on the bike, you need to really nail the air pressure if you are to ride happily into the sunset. Sure, that’s true of any suspension bike, but it’s truer still of the RKT 9. Run anything more than 25 percent sag and you will not be stoked. At all. The ride is a bit firm at 25 percent, so you might be tempted to run something approaching 28 or 30 percent. Don't. The climbing suffers in a big way. In short, if you hop on this thing and are not impressed, pull out the tape measure and double-check that sag.
ClimbingI got my first ride on a RKT 9 RDO this summer, when I broke the seatstay on my go-to trail bike and was handed a loaner version of this then-secret bike. Given its lack of heft, I wasn’t surprised by the RKT’s ability to motor up buff climbs. I was astonished, however, by how well it rolled up and over eroded water bars, big rocks and roots. The wagon wheels and the mojo brought to the table by Niner’s CVA suspension is a powerful combination. A full day aboard that bike in Idaho’s backcountry had me eager to get more saddle time on the new Niner, so I ordered up a version that bore a more wallet-friendly price tag.
Same story the second go round. The 2-star version of the RKT 9 RDO climbs just as well as its top-tier sibling. Well, it weighs a couple pounds more, so there’s that to consider, but traction is just as good.
Though the RKT climbs well enough in wide-open mode, I wound up using the handlebar-remote to set the bike into Medium mode on most climbs. CVA is quite efficient under power, but the Niner definitely benefits from an extra bit of compression damping. In short, it’s a strong climber, but I wouldn’t say it absolutely tops the list of short-dual link designs in that regard. I’ve ridden several DW-Link designs that hold a slight edge here.
The geometry is exceptionally well suited to threading your way through tight and technical uphill switchbacks. Though there were times when I was cursing the 71-degree head angle, this sure wasn’t one of them. The RKT 9 RDO is at its best when powering up and through the kind of climbing sections that unfold like some kind of evil, cardio chess game.
DescendingA few years ago, I would have said that the RKT 9 RDO was as capable a descender as a cross-country bike could be. Cross-country bikes, however, have started to undergo a transformation, with many of them achieving near-trailbike capabilities on the downhills, thanks to more progressive geometry. The Kona Carbon Hei Hei DL that we recently profiled
here, for instance, climbs on a par with the RKT, but absolutely shreds the descents. I’d argue the same for Specialized’s Camber bikes, which are, admittedly, clear-cut trail models, yet are also light and efficient enough to be raced cross-country.
The RKT 9 RDO just never matched that level of confidence on the descents. The 90 millimeters of rear suspension works well enough—with enough progressivity at the end stroke to prevent harsh bottom outs (even when you push the bike a bit too far), but the short wheelbase and steep head angle do not inspire confidence on fast and hacked-out terrain. Those traits were a plus when I was gaining elevation, but when I was barreling down the other side of the mountain, it led to some white-knuckle moments.
On the upside, you can bolt a 120-millimeter travel fork to the RKT 9 RDO, if you are looking for a bit more grace under pressure—Niner designed it that way. You could also add a dropper post to the mix, which would be a big plus since a whopping six inches of the stock rigid post is knocking about between your legs—even when the seat post is slammed down as far as the frame will allow.
Those two tweaks would add a bit more forgiveness to the RKT 9 RDO’s downhill personality. Then again, I can almost hear detractors howling and throwing feces at their computer screen as they read my suggestions…
Add a longer travel fork? Add a dropper post? This is a cross-country race bike, dammit! Sack up and ride it like one!Maybe they are right. I dunno... Color me conflicted. I would have agreed with them a couple years ago, but time on bikes such as the Tallboy and the Hei Hei DL have me thinking that you can have your cross-country cake and eat it too when its time to descend. The good news here is that Niner gives you the option to tweak the RKT 9 so that it swings both ways.
Component Check• No Dropper Post: I know, I know...it's an XC race bike, so it doesn't
need a dropper, right? Yeah, well, bullshit. If you're going downhill, you'll want one and that's particularly true when the bike in question has razor sharp front handling and a short wheelbase. I'd definitely pay an extra couple hundred for a dropper. The frame, fortunately, accepts both stealth and externally-routed dropper posts, so you have that option.
• That Float DPS Rear Shock: Having bitched about the lack of a dropper post, I will say that I appreciated the remote, rear-shock adjuster which assumes its place on the handlebar. The Fox remote makes sense for racers who want to toggle between wide open and firmer modes without bothering to reach down during the heat of battle for that little blue lever. On most bikes, it'd be superfluous, but it makes sense here.
• SRAM GX1 drivetrain: This is actually the drivetrain I'd personally buy if I was looking at this bike. The weight penalty of going with GX1 (over, say, XTR or XX1) is not severe enough to lose sleep over and you could use a portion of the thousands of dollars saved with GX1 to splurge where it matters most--on a lightweight-but-bomber wheelset that'd liven up the ride.
Pinkbike's Take: | If you race cross-country or enjoy marathon backcountry sessions, but aren't on board with the whole slack and long geometry thing, the RKT 9 RDO should be on your short list. The bike lives up to its moniker. If, on the other hand, you're looking for a short-travel bike that can double as an all-purpose trail bike, there are more evenly-balanced options out there. - Vernon Felton |
Hold Up...As you can tell from this review, I feel that the RKT 9 RDO is a good choice for dedicated cross-country racers and people who are interested in marathon, back-country rides. It's a quick-steering, nimble little thing. It is not, however, my choice for a short-travel bike that would pull double duty as my all-around trail bike. There are, for the record, some short-travel models hitting the market right now that do all that. So, why then did Niner go the full-bore-XC-racer-route with the RKT 9? People are essentially asking me that question in some of their forum comments. I've responded with a "I suppose Niner's take would be such and such a thing..." comment. But that got me thinking--Hell, I should just ask Chris Sugai--the owner of Niner and the guy who designed this thing--to drop his two cents in here. So, here you go....
Vernon, thanks for the opportunity to respond and talk with your audience.
First off I would like to give majority credit to our R&D team, Team CLIF Bar riders and Rebecca Rusch for the design and creation of the RKT 9 RDO.
Our intention when designing the RKT 9 RDO was to make a lighter, stiffer and sharper focused bike than the JET 9 RDO. We wanted a bike that would clearly address the needs of XC & marathon racers as well as riders who want a no-excuses machine to put the hurt on their buddies ;-)
To that end it delivers what XC minded riders and racers expect, and is spec’d accordingly with suspension elements that lean toward efficiency. A 100-mm travel 32-mm stanchion fork coupled with 90-mm of travel on the rear don’t equate to a lot of sag and bomber descending feel, because they aren’t intended for that and there simply isn’t enough to work with. While the geometry is not full on new school, we have more to come.
For riders expecting a more trail worthy ride, they can fit the RKT 9 RDO with a 120mm fork and a dropper post, but we might instead suggest our JET 9 RDO with a 120mm fork and designed specifically for that purpose.
We made the RKT 9 RDO to climb well, ride efficiently and above all, to go fast.
This is the first of a total evolution of our mountain bike line-up and we have much more to show you this year.
Peace,
Chris Sugai
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About the ReviewerStats: Age: 44 • Height: 5'11” • Inseam: 32" • Weight: 175lb • Industry affiliations / sponsors: None In 1988 Vernon started riding mountain bikes—mainly to avoid the people throwing cans of Budweiser at him during his road rides. At some point, roughly when Ronald Reagan was president and Hüsker Dü was still a band, he began loving mountain bikes on their own terms. Vernon Felton spends most of his time riding bikes, thinking about bikes, thinking about riding bikes and then riding some more on the wet and filthy trails of Bellingham, Washington. If it has a greasy chain and two wheels on it, he’s cool with it. Except for recumbents. Well, okay, maybe those too. Nah, forget it. No recumbents.
C'mon guys, rookie mistake.
I'm still more curious about things like effective stack height (flat bar, 100mm fork) and how the setup you ran affected downhill performance, especially since the version it sounds like you'd prefer is a 120mm fork, dropper equipped variant. Do you think the rear end would keep up (without a custom tune), or would it feel like a super-complaint AM hardtail that happens to be absurdly light?
I see no reason to question that's how it went down. Potentially worth the comment that the rapid-link has some value for a trailside fix of this nature, but why spend valuable review space on a self-induced setup issue? I'd rather hear about bike handling and performance traits, not a giant explanation of 'we had the bike setup a bit wrong for a day'.
Come on are you shitting me? WTF
And Vernon, you wrote the review months ago , and still printed the picture ?? Huh !
As for the pic - the way I see is is that the pics are taken as soon as possible, just to get them out the way. That way the first requirement is met, and the journo doesn't need to worry about when he's going to get the opportunity to get decent pics of the bike. They can just save the pics for when the article is ready....
I don't think anyone is saying "turn it into an AM bike!", I think they're just noting that XC bikes are being built to handle way better downhill (and be more fun). I'm sure a lot of that has to do with how gnarly XC courses are getting in the last couple years.
Relaaax.!!!!!!!!!!!!! The whole world is still racing and winning races on the climbs. US is not the whole world. We are very prone to extremism and following hypes. Certainly we not fit enough to climb , look at UCI XC race ranking ,pretty embarrassing.And we are the whole world and telling the world what is good for the ride. They do not even sell race version of Kona Hei Hei in USA, well they assume we have too fat asses to ride anyway.
You are kind of clueless about bike geometry. one is to design bike with steeper angles and shorter TT, the other is design slacker bike with longer TT , neither way is better, this the matter of preferences. There is absolutely nothing wrong with RKT geometry and I think the short wheelbase whip with slightly higher stock is a lot fun to ride.
So, now have fun, eat your burrito and buy the gondola ticket and do not forget slack your ass before the ride, I heard that it may help
You own one, you're butt hurt. I get it. I'd say come back to comment after it breaks, but it sounds like you don't ride it hard enough.
And generalizing a country based on UCI XC results?
That is as dumb as making assumptions about someone you know nothing about on the internet.
Don't be a dick.
www.pinkbike.com/news/cannondale-scalpel-si-first-ride.html
"the new Scalpel-Si is longer and a bit slacker, making the bike look much more forgiving and, dare we say it, fun for a machine that's made to win cross-country races...."
I feel sorry for the somewhat frustrated guy who just tried get engaged this forum with constructive conversation about this bike, he got whooping 2 props, while some retard making supposedly funny comments get 40 or more. It speaks for itself.
Your whole world there are 3 major XC bikes in 2016 for the US market; Top Fuel, Revolver FS and 9 RKT
Trek High 75 SA , 71 HA, Norco 74.5, SA, 70.5 HA Niner 9 RKT 74.5 SA, 71 HA
What make you believe that Niner is doing something else than the other brands.? I think I know It is what you stated so honestly, you simply do not care about the facts.
I know they just look like 3mm to us idiots. 3mm which can easily be found without requiring a new hub standard. And extra stiffness which can be exactly replicated with slightly larger hub flanges and no change of standards. And every engineer I know thinks its a stupid idea. But still, we are just dummies. Bow down to the glory of Boost.
Just below this is an article about how cannondale got a zero dish wheel with their 29er and a 142mm hub! duh!
50mm stems (no matter the reach/TT length) suck for standing climbing. And 1999's stems were a bit longer than 90mm for XC.
If you can't avoid "OTB" on a 29er without going to a slack head angle, it's your fault, not the bike's. Granted, the slacker HA gives a bigger margin for error, but there are tradeoffs, as well.
I've got a RKT 9 on the way - perfect for what I do, and would have gone with the Jet 9 RDO had I wanted a more trailbike setup.
In other news: you provide a detailed, succinct description of sag nuances; comparisons to other, similar ACTUAL BIKES (so rare, yet utterly invaluable); insightful contrasts to other dual-link bikes' pedalibility; crisp review of geo #'s and trends; healthy-skeptic/no-nonsense tone in discussing the latest tech employed lend you everyday credibility, not to mention reviewing the most affordable model. Plus your significant criticism where the bike lacks? More than well done sir -- don't be reticent in donning the wreath of Reviewer Laureate. Neither hesitate in threading these hot new whips through your favorite trails and filling us all in on the juicy beta.
Bar and stack height have much more to do with the "over the bars" feeling.
I think it has been mentioned several times on PB where designers mentioned that even though they went for a certain material for the front triangle, the still went for something different for other components for whatever reason. It is fine really. Look at it as a triangle of product, production process and material. You can't change one without changing the others along with that if you want to end up with a proper design. Now that they went with these short links for their suspension design, aluminium just makes more sense than CFRP. It is horses for courses. A chair can be made out of wood or it can be made out of steel. Both will be just fine, but these will be different designs. It is not going to have solid steel legs, it is not going to have curved, thin walled hollow wood legs either.
For the introduction of a course on production and materials I made a collection of pictures of bicycles made out of wood, aluminium, bamboo, PE, cardboard and what more is out there. All proper designs yet all for their own purpose and audience (the product) and all produced in a way that suits the material (production process).
But I get it if you call BS as I have little to back this up. It is pretty much intuition from here.
- Suspension is very setup sensitive. It is not like DW Link, set it and forget it. You need to dial it up until it clicks for you.
You need to except the fact that is going to be on the stiffer side or forget about this bike. In the soggy mode it rides horribly.Once dialed is as good as Maestro or DW Link
-Geometry is most misunderstood aspect of the RKT. i was kind of concerned about 590mm effective TT for size Medium.
It seemed to be too short. While I started to ride I understood the concept. With the bike with steep geometry you do not need that long top tube.This 590mm may feel longer and more effective on the uphill race than slacker bike with 610mm TT. It is what I call 'top tube on demand'. On flat you don't stretch your back for no reason and for uphill battle, bike geometry put you so much in forward position you do not need super long top tube. This is the most effective position for maximum power transfer. When you stretching and lowering your body you may think you are going faster but perception is not always reality. I love the shorter wheelbase and slightly larger stack, more typical for trail bike.It feels more sophisticated and more pleasure to ride that long and low bikes, I tested . 71 HA is normal for me on XC race bike.
- There is some demon in this bike when accelerating uphill. I am very impressed. On the more level up parts of trial bike is on par with other cross country bikes, may be slightly slower comparing to Epic.
- Descending. I can judge only from very practical prospective. All 29-ers have long enough wheelbase for safer descending and with the RKT wheelbase and geometry I have a lot of room to move my body backward for the better balance.And I can do it effortlessly I do not think RKT geometry and suspension travel are only responsible factor for descending impression. Typically frames with more oversized but thinner tubing inspire more confidence on downhills. RKT feels just like a race frame.
I am happy with the bike, it rides really well.
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Progressiveness.. Progressive.. I don't like this word. As a practical man, it doesn't mean anything to me. And yet, it is used by everyone; the pros, the mechanics, the sales people, etc.
"happening or developing gradually or in stages; proceeding step by step." (Google definition of progressive)
So, according to this definition, when a suspension system is said to be "progressive", it is developing gradually. What is not clear is HOW it is developing. We can only assume it is getting stiffer(more damping) by the end of the travel, logically. Still, it is quite an ambiguous word to use to describe a bike style: " Niner made several tweaks to their formula, aimed at bringing a bit of progressive style to the new bike.".
Now, don't get me wrong, I just think it is an overrated word or expression at the moment used at every possible time someone can't really describe the difference between the old and the new product. (Oh! trust me, it's very progressive!)
Please, reviewers, use a proper explanation of what is happening instead of, you know, being so progressive.
"Progess is the comparative of which we have not settled the superlative."
"this bike is progressive blah blah".... well if you're going to say that tell me what it's progressing towards or how it's progressive. I think we can assume that when they say that regarding the suspension it means the shock firms up towards the end of it's travel and doesn't bottom out harshly and if they say it regarding the bike in general or it's geometry the bike is "long, low and slack".