OneUp Your Shimano 11 Speed Drivetrain

Apr 26, 2015
by OneUp Components  
OneUp your Shimano 11-speed drivetrain with the new 45T sprocket for XT/XTR (M8000/M9000) Cassettes. Get a perfect shifting, truly wide range, Shimano 1x11 setup, with the OneUp 45T expander sprocket and narrow wide chainring.

OneUp Components 45T Sprocket and XTR Narrow Wide Chainring. Santa Cruz Nomad drivetrain.

The 45T upgrade increases the stock Shimano 11-speed 11-40 cassette range by 12.5%. This provides more total cassette range, it’s not just an easier granny gear. Adding the OneUp 45T sprocket lets you increase your 1x11 front chainring from a 30 to 34T without losing any low range. Eliminate dropped chains forever with our true Narrow Wide chainring design.

Cassette Zones
The OneUp 45T tunes the cassette progression into two distinct zones optimized for climbing and descending.

Climbing (21-45T) 13-15% cassette progression. Smaller jumps to maintain an optimum even climbing cadence.

Descending (11-18T) 15-20% cassette progression. Larger jumps to reduce double tap shifting and provide faster burst acceleration when mainly pumping not spinning down trails.

One UP 45T sprocket

2x11 Conversion
2x11 Shimano XT/XTR equipped bikes are spec’d with 11-40 cassettes. This is because Shimano 11-speed mtb rear derailleurs do not have the capacity needed to run 2x11 with an extended 11-42, (or 11-45) cassette.

Install
As easy as the original OneUp 42T. Remove stock 17 and 19 sprockets and replace with our 18 and 45. Due to the large pulley wheel offset of the latest 11-speed Shimano rear derailleurs, B-Screw adjustment is well within the normal operating range and chain wrap is excellent throughout the cassette for flawless wide range shifting. The conversion keeps the 40T as the smallest aluminum sprocket for maximum cassette durability.

SPEC
Price: $90 USD
Material: 7075-T6 Aluminum (45T), Nickel plated hardened steel (18T)
Weight: 65g more than stock 11-40 cassette
Compatibility: XT/XTR M8000/M9000 11-40T cassettes. 11-speed only. Standard freehub body.
Cassette progression: 11-13-15-18-21-24-27-31-35-40-45
Increased Range: 12.5%
Colour: Matched to XTR
US Patent 9,011,282

OneUp Components 45T Sprocket and XTR M9000 Cassette


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  • 59 5
 Just spend your winter on single speed and you will be more than fine with 11-40. Bucks saved, beefy quads included Wink
  • 20 95
flag freeride-forever (Apr 27, 2015 at 12:59) (Below Threshold)
 Yeah like faaaaack. I rip fine on one gear & you pussy cvnts ain't satisfied with 10 fvcking gears? C'mon!!! 30-34 front & 45 in the back is probably slower than walking. :s
  • 29 0
 ^^keepin' it classy.
  • 4 1
 See Shimano: That's what you get for creating a great, modular 11-speed offering. First you get dissed because SRAM was first and had 2-teeth more on the granny ring. Now your offering gets expanded by a competitor with a patent. I still hope you don't learn and continue to provide great solutions.
  • 8 0
 @Vanguard, I'll pay dues to that comment when OneUp develop their own dérailleur and not just expand a cassette range the dérailleur was not designed around.

Maybe it's just me but the wide range cassettes are starting to get ridiculous. It's more weight in the wrong place (un-sprung mass). It's getting to the point where gearboxes are looking better and better; potential for more range with a comparable weight and better durability especially compared to the alloy rings.
  • 3 0
 @zegermans I am totally with you on gearboxes, but frame companies have to make that leap first. Running one cog in the rear will be utter bliss for rotating mass.
  • 3 0
 @freeride-forever based on your name it sounds like you only go downhill too... those of us who actually pedal want gear options
  • 2 1
 11-36 cogs on my 1x10 is all I need..even on steep climbs..if you need more that 36t then you might be climbing walls and not trails..or..you're just not riding enough to conquer the trails you're climbing..
  • 3 0
 36 is enough with a 30t up front for me, but that means I'm spinning like a hamster wheel when I need top speed.
  • 20 0
 I like the idea of a 45t so I could run a larger chainring for better high range, yet still have options for climbing. Pricy option having to jump to XTR however.
  • 14 1
 The OneUp Narrow-wide M9000 rings save $95 and 65g over stock XTR single rings (525g v Shimano claimed 590g). The OneUp 45T/18T kit costs $90 and adds 65g. This means we provide 12.5% more range, a true narrow-wide chaining, a $5 cost savings and no weight penalty over a stock 1x11 XTR build.
  • 7 1
 You are Shimano and Sram nightmare. Great job man. I really want to buy your stuff.
  • 2 1
 SRAM 10-42 is still more range and only has one aluminum cog to worry about a quicker wear rate on. I'm betting this setup will result in more frequent cassette replacement, if the top TWO cogs are aluminum.
  • 7 1
 I've been reading through the comments to OneUp's 45t release here and on other sites, and i've come to the conclusion that I think we need to add some code to the comment system that automatically adds the line:

"but you have to buy a new wheelset"

...to any comment that points out that SRAM's 10-42 cassette still offers more range.

Seriously...we get it. But you're talking about minimum $200 for a cassette and $500 for a new wheelset that's compatible ONLY WITH THAT CASSETTE. That $700 will buy the XTR Cassette, OneUp 45/18t combo, a 32-36t N/W, Shadow+ rear mech, and shifter, which you can then put on your EXISTING WHEELS that you probably are pretty happy with. When M8000 XT comes out and you can buy the ENTIRE 1x11 groupset WITH BRAKES and the necessary OneUp parts for less than $700, this is going to be HUGE. GX cannot compete simply because it starts at a $500 disadvantage.

It's great that SRAM has had this kind of range for awhile now, but it's just too damn expensive. I've tried every trick I could think of to make a cost-effective 1x11 setup (and I run XTR 2x10 now so i'm not talking "budget", just "reasonable") work and so far I just can't justify the cost. I'm going to be losing range and spending MORE. But this has my attention. When M8000 hits the market and I can run an M8000 cassette with the 45t expander, M9000 rear mech and shifter, and throw a N/W on my current cranks, i'm in. I can sell my existing cassette, mechs, and shifters to cover most of that cost. MOST IMPORTANTLY, I can keep my beloved wheelset!
  • 1 0
 @Oneup If the XTR front ring is like the new XT with stainless construction the durability pays dividends over the few grams of a comparatively soft alloy ring. Running only one alloy ring anywhere other than arid climates gets expensive fast.
  • 2 0
 @TheRaven - What low end peasant wheels do you have where you can't just swap the freehub body with an XD driver for $80? You don't need a whole new wheel LOL
  • 2 0
 @Alias530 - Umm...how about ANY Shimano hub? You know, the hubs that make up MORE THAN HALF the wheelsets out there? My newest wheelset has Fulcrum sealed cartridge hubs, which have a swappable freehub (but it's more like $130 for the part), but this would be the first of...oh I don't know...probably upwards of 10 wheelsets i've had in my life that can do that. Of all the guys I ride with or have ridden with, I know of ONE GUY who has a wheelset that could swap to an XD driver (Hope hubs...and he can't wait to get rid of those POS's).

But just for the sake of argument...you're still adding an extra $80 to the $200 10-42t cassette, which STILL means that the $180 XTR cassette plus $90 OneUp expansion is a little cheaper. Now consider how cost effective this will be when the XT cassette is out and you can buy it PLUS the OneUp expansion for $150. That's right around what the GX cassette will cost alone, completely forgetting the XD driver.

Basically, i'm just pointing out that this is going to be a pretty big deal.
  • 1 1
 Using your first example that XTR plus OneUp is a little cheaper... imagine when you go to sell the bike. "hey I have this ghetto rigged adapter setup" vs. "hey I have X1 on my bike". You'll make up every bit of the extra you spent.
  • 2 0
 I've never been able to get anything approaching good money from selling a complete bike. I always part out. The fact that I always have a few parts I really like and want to hang onto (saddle, fork...etc) is a big factor in that. Bikes like the ones you and I ride are too preference-specific to fetch decent money. Look at it from our point of view...how often do you come across a complete used bike that you are interested in that you can say "I would change nothing on that bike"? I never have. So while you may be right about the value of the drivetrain, anything you've recouped on the drivetrain will be more than offset by the depreciation of the rest of the bike. Meanwhile, you could simply tear it down, sell the frame for probably 80% of it's new value, and build up your new frame using the drivetrain you've likely come to love from riding it on your old bike.

So realistically, resale value is a non-issue. This doesn't even take into consideration the amount of brand-loyalty there is in bike parts. My bikes would be completely passed up by SRAM guys in the market, just as if i'm looking at used bikes, one built with a complete Shimano drivetrain would be worth considerably more to me than one with a full or partial SRAM drivetrain. It's not that I wouldn't give it a try if the price is right, it's just that I would be concerned that I wouldn't be happy with it and would have to spend more to replace that drivetrain.
  • 1 0
 Obviously you aren't going to get "good money" from a used bike, but trust me its a lot easier to sell a bike with a Pike and XTR than it is with a Suntour fork and SRAM X5.

Paying more up front and doing it right = easier to sell, sells for a higher price, AND you get to enjoy the good stuff leading up to selling it
  • 1 0
 I guess we just have different views on what constitutes "the good stuff". To me, the Pike is overhyped (its pretty much impossible to not be overhyped when theres so much hype) and SRAM's 1x is overpriced. So "the good stuff" is 2x10 XT/XTR and a Fox 34 or 36 for me.

I will, however, happily pick up a Pike when the hype dies down and the mob finds something else to swoon over, and try 1x when it is the same or cheaper than 2x and offers the range I need.
  • 1 0
 The Pike is hyped for a reason, it is fantastic. The only part of SRAM 1x stuff that costs much more than anything else is the cassette.
  • 1 0
 I agree the Pike is fantastic. So is/was the Lyrik, which irrationally doesn't get anywhere near the attention the Pike does. Before I bought and built my Tracer 275 Alloy frame, I demo'ed one with a Pike. I ultimately built mine with a 34 Float. Why? Cost. The Pike was 50% more expensive, and made no difference in my riding. I noticed a slight bit less flex under hard braking with the Pike as compared to the 34, and slightly better small hit reactivity. But nowhere near enough to justify the cost, again bolstered by this irrational "must have" status. I actually found the Float easier to "dial-in"...the Pike took another 2-3 test runs before I was fully happy with the setup.

I can buy a full M980 XTR 2x setup (leaving the brakes out of the argument) brand new (not takeoff) with all the bells and whistles for about $750 from Merlin. Best I have been able to find, for a full XX1 setup, even using the cheaper X01 Cassette, is $1001. So i'm paying an extra $250 and getting fewer parts for my money, all while sacrificing range and reliability...and that's assuming I have a wheelset with a convertible hub.

If you know of a place to buy XX1 cheaper, i'm all ears.
  • 1 0
 Lyrik is a different class... Pike goes 120-160mm, just a more popular/demanding amount of travel. Also, Lyrik is 26 only.

No system is perfect... 2x10 XTR is going to weigh more and you have to deal with a front derailleur. And XX1 can be had brand new $850 online.
  • 1 0
 Can you PM me where you got that XX1 price from? This discussion aside, i'm interested. If I can find XX1 within range of XTR, I might give it a try.
  • 14 3
 I say there's nothing wrong with choices. Most people here seem to not understand this. If you're running 1x it's because you just don't want the fuss and muss of a FD. It's not about "geez people, just run a 2x or 3x if you're going to have a 45T in back." Some folks just don't want a FD, simple as that.
  • 4 1
 True that! Rear derailleurs are bad enough who wants to deal with another one in the front! I used to suffer a 34 x 11-32 for that very reason. I've only made the upgrade to a 11-36 cassette thus far but the OneUp 40t does look might enticing...
  • 2 0
 Front derailleur and shifter are the two most reliable parts on bikes. I have never experienced a failure in 20+ years mtbing. Adjust once...done.

If your choice is 26" it is dying quickly so new standards will result disappearing choices. In this case, far too quickly. Eventually, you will not have a choice except to buy a new bike.

See: Easton's new wide rims are not made in 26", Vittoria no longer makes "trail" tires in 26," just DH casing tires, Spank Subrosa rims no longer available in 26", etc.
  • 2 1
 You must be one lucky guy cause i've had nothing but problems with front mechs in the past. As for your comment about 26" tires... how is that relevant at all?! Quit trolling and find somewhere else to argue about standards!!!
  • 1 1
 @millsr4 thank you Wink
  • 1 1
 "Front derailleur and shifter are the two most reliable parts on bikes" --sure, if you mean "reliable" in the sense of durablility, that they don't break/fail often. But that's not the issue. It's their general poor performance and lack of precision that makes people want to get rid of them. There's practically nothing "reliable" about ANY front derailleur's performance or precision. Things had gotten much better over the past few years with the latest versions of 2x front derailleurs, for sure, but consistency has always been a problem.
  • 4 0
 Yeah I don't really see where all the hate for FD's comes from. It's just the fad/trend mentality if you ask me. 1x10/11, the new Pike, the CCDB air, tubeless. All these things are currently riding the "must have" wave and as a result, everything else sucks.

I've been building bikes for the better part of two decades and I find tuning FD's to be one of the easiest tasks in bike building. Nonetheless, I see validity in the argument for less complexity, and less weight. So i'm all for 1x when it's practical. The problem is that too many folks are going 1x because it's cool right now, and sacrificing their riding experience because if it. For the trails I ride, 1x (at least up until this 45t cog became a possibility) is just not sufficient. I would either have to go with a 32t up front and have my friends disappear into the distance on descents, or go 36t to keep up on descents only to have to dismount on every climb. If I really wanted to walk a trail i'd just buy a nice pair of sneakers and save about $5000.

When M8000 is available and I can see the pricing, the XT cassette and the OneUp 45t cog MIGHT convince me to give 1x a try.
  • 2 0
 @Millsr4 Front derailleurs are pathetically simple. Setting one up properly is a 5 minute affair, there is no luck and only an abysmal amount of skill required. You may have to clean or replace the cable and/or housing once a year if you ride in sloppy conditions at worst. My front derailleurs are about as precise as I could ever imagine them needing to be.

The standards argument is completely valid here because this 1X drivetrain fervor is quickly creating these massive and heavy cassettes that are useless for people that want to run 2X or want a light cassette that is reasonably priced. The availability of a sub-280g cassette below $100 is disappearing because of 1X so the popular argument of "stop bitching because you don't have to buy it" is not true because I will very soon have no choice except to buy it. I do not want a 40-11t cassette that weighs 400+g for my 2X. I do not need that much of a spread. I want a 34-11 cassette that weight 270g or so for under $100 to pair with my 24/36 up front.

The mention of 26" is merely an example of an "old" standard already losing serviceability, just like it is difficult to find a reasonably priced, properly geared, and reasonably light cassette for a 2X system. The mention was not to open a wheelsize debate but to illustrate customers already being hung out to dry.

The industry is shooting itself in the foot. Just like people stopped buying Saabs when their future was bleak. It is common sense to avoid buying something that might be difficult to service or find parts for in the near future. Maybe our sport is immune and there is more disposable income than I realize.
  • 2 0
 whatever your position, I just think it's hilarious when a bike is spec'd with a 2x or 3x system the and reviewer says something like "it would have been nice if they had upgraded to a 1x system," or "for just $300 more you can get the X-model that comes with the upgraded 1x drivetrain." Like "hey, we figured out how to sell you half the derailleurs, half the shifters, and half the chainrings, and charge you more money for it!!!"

Gearing configurations are now like pedal preferences: different people have different needs and desires, one is not inherently better than the other. It used to be that every new bike came with all the possible gears, so everyone was taken care of. Now, the people who want or need fewer gears have off-the-shelf options. Great! It just makes me sad that they've been dupped into paying more for it.
  • 2 0
 @ecologist - EXACTLY!! It's not just more expensive...it's ALOT more expensive. It's ridiculous. And it's hilarious that people are flocking to it! Paying more for less just to have the new "must have" trend.

I've been trying to work out a cost-effective way to do 1x11 on my second bike, because I love to try new things, but I just can't make it work within reason. No matter if I do SRAM 10-42 or OneUp/Shimano 11-45, there's no way to do it at this point that won't cost me significantly more than even a 2x all XTR setup. On top of that, i'll be sacrificing even more of what I already consider to be a tight range for the trails I ride. With my current 2x (26/38F, 11-36R) my low gear is JUST ENOUGH while I could use another gear or even two up top. But it's enough that I can deal with that. There's no 1x11 setup that will even cover the range I currently have. I'd have to sacrifice another two gears top or bottom...it just doesn't make sense, ESPECIALLY since i'd have to spend another $300-400 for it!!
  • 9 0
 thing is I would buy an XT or SLX 1x10 and one up 42 from the outset as a wide range 'budget' groupset. But Im not sure I would buy XTR to then modify - too expensive to hack...
  • 9 1
 This is probably more for people who bought a bike with a XTR 2x10, because brand managers seems to be reluctant to drop 2x drivetrains, & wants 1x with better range than 11-40, but doesn't want to go down to an XT cassette.
  • 3 0
 I'm more interested in this for the XT option. We'll just have to see what street prices end up like for the new XT cassettes.
  • 2 0
 XT cassettes already come in a 11-42 option. 6 teeth (36 up to 42) is an easy sell, 5 teeth(40 to 45) is a easy sell to someone who would buy XTR, but for someone who's buying XT, $90 for 3 teeth(or 1.5ish % range) is much harder to justify, methinks.
  • 16 5
 Just ManUp® and run 11-40.
  • 3 0
 I don't really see this as a way to just get more of a granny gear but as a way to get a nice progression and range. Don't just think about this with your existing front ring. Imagine moving that front ring up 2-4T and now you can get more out of your 11T cog. I'm not all that keen on having to buy an XD driver body or new rear hub just to get a 10T Sram cog.
  • 7 0
 I would really like to see what the derailleur looks like on the 45 cog.
  • 2 0
 Exactly! And I would also like to know the correct lenght of chain, and I am shure they didn't add that weight addition to the +65g extra claim.
  • 6 0
 Ooohhh...ok, now I got it, it was just a matter of space. Bigger wheels to install bigger cogs!
  • 3 1
 This thing in possible XT or SLX configuration will weigh a ton. The XT 11-speed cassette already is 400+ grams. Things are getting kind of heavy.
www.bikeradar.com/mtb/news/article/shimano-deore-xt-m8000-11-speed-first-look-44084
  • 2 0
 If you're running a 1x then you're eliminating a whole front ring and derailer/shifter. Why anyone would run one with a 2x is beyond me. Can't see much of a weight penalty all things considered.
  • 4 3
 Because not all riders in the world have the luxury of driving towards their local trail. Here in the Philippines we have to ride 5 kms before we even get to our trail. 1x drivetrains are not that fast on the road you know.
  • 1 1
 Here in Russia...
  • 2 0
 Not why anyone would run a 2x but why anyone would run a 2x with a 45t on the rear. 2x and even 3x have their place but having a 45 in the rear makes less sense than just getting a smaller front ring.
  • 2 0
 A 45t tooth cog? For the love of god people why not just recognize what the Euros Asians and roadies have all along and run a double crank to get the range that 11 speed doesn't give you? It really can' be more obvious 1x is not the answer for you when you start dividing your cassette into high and low ranges and/or changing your front ring depending on where you are going to ride on a given day.
  • 6 4
 I may race xc, but I get along fine with a 30t chainring and a standard
11-36 cassette. I still make it up some pretty gnarly climbs; no need to drop big money for lower gears, just get out and ride, get fitter.
  • 5 13
flag tetopluz (Apr 27, 2015 at 13:18) (Below Threshold)
 Exactly. Im running a 30t chainring with a 9speed 11-36 casste, i dont race xc, actually im a bit fat, im a beer drinker.... And i am pushing up an intense uzzi (16kgs), not a xc or light enduro rig. I can climb anything with this setup. So why in hell anybody would need a 45t granny gear? Its so f**ing stupid, a waste of money.
  • 15 1
 some of us are fat, OK?
  • 5 0
 Or try doing it for about 4-5 hours plus. There's a reason that the 2x/3x refuses to die. Not all of us are young/strong. I use to think the same way until I started riding with a friend who has some bad knee issues and the 3x allows him to ride along with us.
  • 7 0
 @Bradhuber, Some people like the challenge of really steep technical climbs that others might not consider climbing. Fitness has nothing to do with it, you can't assume that everybody rides the same trails as you or in the same way that you do. I think it's good to have options when it comes to gearing.
  • 6 0
 @bradhuber, @tetopluz So you can run a larger ring on the front, giving you better top-end without sacrificing your climbing gears. It's not that difficult to understand.
  • 2 4
 If I was going slow enough to use 32x45, I'd just get off and walk. But that's just me. I can see why some people might want it.
  • 3 1
 I see your point but I ride my bike to ride my bike. If I wanted to go for a walk I'd just leave the bike in the shed. There are few things I hate worse on a bike ride than pushing.
  • 2 1
 @jaame: Never walk, ever. Period. Clean it or turn around and go home.
  • 2 0
 Pedalling hurts one of my knees so I try to limit it. That's why I ride mostly DH. Also, I don't see the point riding if it's slower than walking. The up is just a necessary evil to enjoy the down. As I said, it's just me. If you want to ride up that's ok by me, I won't negative prop you. Agree to disagree. Also on looks, I do't think many people would argue that a 45t rear sprocket looks anything other than bad.
  • 1 0
 Hey don't get me wrong...I HATE riding up hills as much as the next guy...up is a very necessary very evil. I guess I just hate pushing bikes up hills more than riding up them. Even more importantly, the only way mi esposa allows me to spend time and money on mountain bikes is on the premise that it keeps me healthy and fit and I wouldn't have as strong a case with mostly downhill, so you see my predicament...
  • 4 2
 Looks like One Up just bailed Shimano out. Now you can run a larger ring up front and can use the 11 gear where before you needed the 10 gear. Shimano owes a big thanks to One Up for bailing them out.
  • 1 0
 I run 11-36 with a 32 on the front and have no problems. I actually just traded my x1 11 speed drive train for a 10 speed xtr and I have had absolutely no issues.
  • 1 1
 Exactly. 32x34 is fine for me, 9 speed on my 26in wheel bike with no dropper post!
  • 4 1
 With this you will really shift!!
  • 4 1
 Why would I want to one up an xtr???
  • 2 0
 45 teeth, man thats bigger than an eight inch rotor, better get an e bike they're starting to look cooler ! hee
  • 1 0
 You need to get out more to places with steep and rutty, rocky ascents. Either you're Danny Mcaskill or you don't know steep from 5hit.
  • 2 0
 How many more ratios do people need
  • 12 0
 2:1 think they need more
  • 1 0
 We always want more Smile more gears more problems.
  • 1 0
 Or, you can use a 10-42 11s X1 SRAM cassette, lighter, cheaper, with wider range.
  • 12 11
 Dam,how easy do people want it to be get up hills,what after the 45t,a motor?get fitter folks
  • 8 0
 This is meant to increase your high gear. By adding the 45 in the back and going to a 34 in the front, instead of a thirty, you get the same low gear but a much higher high gear.
  • 3 1
 I remember an article (on arts cyclery?) claiming that 90%+ of the people never touch their 11t ring.
  • 1 2
 I find the easier the gear is when I do up hill im exuasting my legs more than if I go up on the second or third ring I very rarely hit easiest gear so this seems really pointless for a person like me
  • 1 2
 lol i run a 1x10 setup with a 36 rear and a 34 front and i can make it up anything, its amazing what companies can convince you that you need to buy to be faster
  • 1 0
 But with only a 30-32 in the front you tend to spin out a lot on high speed trails
  • 1 0
 Not around here you wouldn't supa, you're barely beyond a 1:1 with 36-34.
  • 1 0
 I'll have to try it out sometime up there haha. Most of the trails around me i'm doing about 2000-3000 feet of climbing per ride with about a 6-7% grade definitely not easy with a 34-36 setup but ive been riding it for so long that i barely notice it anymore
  • 3 2
 If you really need more than 45t 1x you should really be considering your life choices.
  • 2 0
 I want to buy OneUp shares on the stock market
  • 2 0
 Until SRAM or Shimano bring 1x12.
  • 1 3
 maybe one day they'll invent something that will eliminate that pesky energy-depleting pedaling completely Smile
...oh wait they do, it's called a motorcycle!! Why are we all using muscle-power like a bunch of suckers???
vaaaaarooooooommmmm!!!
  • 2 0
 You've gone too far when the big cog is larger than a 203mm rotor.
  • 2 0
 no thanks..i don't ride on a stairway to heaven.. 10 speed is enough...
  • 2 0
 28 direct and 36-11 done!
  • 1 0
 Few years ago people were happy with 36t ring ... Do we really need 45t ?
  • 1 0
 A few years ago everyone was running double cranks on their trail bikes so they had no need for 11 cogs or 45t. The euros and asians haven't bought into 1x so run 2x and tell your friends its a euro set up.
  • 1 2
 Great, why not now make a low profile derailleur & seal the drive, that would make the drive last way longer????????????
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