Pinkbike Awards - Suspension Product of the Year Nominees

Dec 23, 2015
by Pinkbike Staff  

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Suspension Product of the Year: Nominees


A wise man once said that geometry is the most important factor when it comes to how well (or how poorly) a bike performs, followed closely by its suspension. That's never been truer than today, and as geometry has evolved to allow us to ride quicker than ever, suspension has also had to develop in order to keep us in control. 2015 saw RockShox debut their new Lyrik, a single crown fork that can be had with up to 180mm of travel and controlled by their Charger damper, while Fox made big changes to their 34 range that gave the sub-four-pound Factory Series Float heavyweight performance. At the other end of the bike, the new Float X2 is a major departure from the architecture that Fox has used for their previous shocks, and the change has proven to be a revelation.

The question is: which of these three deserve the title of Suspension Product of the Year?







RockShox Lyrik RCT3

Long-travel, single-crown suspension is back

More riders than ever are ditching their downhill bikes in favour of long-travel, heavy duty all-mountain machines, a trend that's true even for those who spend much of their time in the bike park. This shift in thinking has brought back something that many of us never thought we'd see again: long-travel single crown forks. RockShox's Pike tops out at 160mm of travel, which is where the Lyrik takes over, with options ranging from 160mm to 180mm depending on wheel size. RockShox says, somewhat predictably, that the Lyrik is actually stiffer than the Pike because of the fork's thicker walled 35mm stanchions (the same diameter as the Pike) and stouter lowers. There's also the new, oversized Torque Caps that are designed to increase the amount of contact between the hub and the fork legs, a concept that echoes what Specialized introduced many years ago. Standard 15mm axle caps can also be fitted, but there is no 20mm option. Sad face.

Internally, the Lyrik uses the same bladder-based Charger damper employed within the Pike, but the rebound shim stack can now be adjusted as well, an option that was previously only available on the BoXXer. A 27.5'' compatible Lyrik is claimed to weigh 4.42lb, whereas a 27.5" Pike is said to come in at 4.10lb, and the Lyrik's MSRP ranges from $1,005 to $1,110 USD.
Retallack






Fox Factory Series Float 34

Trail bike fork that packs a big punch

While the Lyrik is nominated for bringing back long-travel, single crown suspension, the latest Fox Factory Series Float 34 gets the nod for taking mid-travel suspension performance to new heights. The new 34 features much of the same DNA as the burlier 36, a fact that gives the 34 snot-slippery action, as well as a more traditional low-speed compression adjustment when the fork is set to the Open mode. Twenty-two clicks of the LSC dial go from nearly overlapping the Medium mode to offering extremely light damping. And speaking of damping, the much maligned CTD system has been replaced by Fox's new, three-position FIT4 damper that performs to a whole other level.

Complementing the FIT4 damper is a dialed air-spring that can be tuned by way of clip-on volume spacers, and the fork's travel can be adjusted (although not as easily as on the 36) to suit a rider's needs.

The $875 USD Factory Series Float 34 offers damping performance on par with Fox's much heralded 36 RC2 fork and RockShox's Pike, but in a sub-4lb package. I'd also argue that, as good as it is, the 36 is overkill for many riders, and that's where the 34 should come in - the FIT4 damper is a thing of beauty in action, and it's an overall lighter weight package that just makes sense for so many riders.
FOX 34 Float





FOX Float X2 shock review

Fox Float X2

A next-level air shock for downhill and all-mountain use

It's not all about the front of the bike when it comes to hopefuls for the Suspension Product of the Year. Fox's latest X2 shock features a new-for-them twin-tube design, a layout that's been proven in motorsport (and cycling) through years of use, and is also the company's most adjustable mountain bike shock to date. You need some common tools to tinker with it, but the X2 allows you to adjust high- and low-speed compression, as well as high- and low-speed rebound, and the air-sprung Float model nominated here comes with Fox's new EVOL air sleeve that makes for extremely slippery action.

The $595 USD Float X2 doesn't get the nod here just for its number of adjustments (Cane Creek, anyone?), or the fact that it's been used on the World Cup circuit with much success (so has RockShox's Vivid Air). No, it is because of its coil-like feel, consistency over extended descents, and ability to take the edge off of high-speed chatter like only a shock with a metal spring should be able to.



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  • 198 8
 A fork nobody's rode yet, another fork that's neither the stiffest, the lightest or the most adjustable in Fox's lineup, and a super bitchin' shock that will be replaced in a yer with one with a climb switch. Tough choices…
  • 71 9
 ridden*
  • 57 12
 year*
  • 89 2
 at least these choices are better than the bike nominations...
  • 42 4
 nor*
  • 22 0
 The new Fox 34 is a big step up from previous generation. Fox 36 is proven and this one has the same characteristics so I wouldn't knock this fork. I for one am impressed with it so far.
  • 17 36
flag TheRaven (Dec 23, 2015 at 11:46) (Below Threshold)
 I have a Pike RCT3 on my trail bike, and will be replacing it with a 34 Float in the fall when prices drop. Is the 34 THAT much better? No. But it is better, and Fox's durability is light years ahead of RS's.
  • 9 1
 let's all just vote here. prop the best one:
  • 54 18
 lyrik
  • 42 12
 fox 34
  • 139 7
 fox x2
  • 7 73
flag ethanhagle (Dec 23, 2015 at 12:45) (Below Threshold)
 Fox 32
  • 91 7
 Your mother
  • 127 1
 she is not a new product for 2015
  • 11 9
 The Fox 34 is an amazing fork. The air spring is dialed, it is lighter than a Pike, the stroke is the smoothest in the business and the damper is spot on . This is the fork that should be on any trail or AM bike because it is sooo good.
  • 18 5
 I wish RS would make the Lyrik in a 26 inch version. I would buy a new one in a heartbeat.
  • 11 1
 @abzillah That's a lot of travel
  • 13 1
 Except it comes in 15mm only. Flexibility of the 36 (to run 20 or 15) alone means I'm picking it over a 34 for my trail bike.
  • 8 2
 @Abzillah You can still but the old Lyrik in 26" and can fit it with a charger damper. It also has a proper 20mm through axle too not see weird end cap nonsense.
  • 8 0
 Do love it, long travel single crown never went away and any body that wanted a burly trail bike has been using 36s or lyriks with the travel dropped for years. Also, love the fact its a pic of a YARI
  • 7 3
 Who needs a climb switch?
  • 27 1
 ^do you even enduro brah?
  • 2 0
 @abzillah - you could just buy the charger damper.
  • 2 1
 They did make the new dampener for the existing 26'' forks
  • 4 3
 @TheRaven what do you mean Fox's durability is light years ahead of Rochshox?
  • 19 3
 PUSH eleven six is hands down the most innovative suspension product of 2015
  • 2 0
 @abhzilla ypi can get 26 lyrik but it's almost $350 for the conversion kit rockshox sells. ://
  • 5 1
 I love my new Fox 36. Its a better fork than my Pike was. and I really liked my Pike. If the 34 is anything like the 36. Then its definitely worth the praise.
  • 2 1
 If fox is smart I know they are the will make the climb switch a upgrade to the X2 that is out currently.
  • 6 0
 My Fox 32 has lockout
  • 7 4
 @chamberlink... Wtf are you on about? I have a lyrik and my X2 equipped bike doesn't need a climb switch.
  • 17 0
 How do I vote for the Girvin FlexStem?
  • 4 6
 fox float x2, almost at the same level as the bos void, a few years later and still not as good, yeah product of the year LOL... its not about innovation but money
  • 1 4
 @HankBizzle @Lastpikd : Yes, I know that I can buy a charger cartridge. The problem is that my current lyrik is scratched on one stanchion.
  • 1 0
 @shmoodiver you're stoked dude, that's such a rad setup! What bike is it on?
  • 4 2
 This article needs more coil products, coil > air.
  • 2 0
 @chamberlink mojo HD3. Built solid, dual ply tires etc.
  • 3 1
 IMO this is just misguided fanboy drumming. If the fork was out in quantity and being real-world ridden off the assembly line, I'd make an educated judgement but the fork is too new. And PB in the end is just like our old paper rags and will beat the drum and wave the flag of progress and incremental improvement.
At the end of the day, fox and RS make great products, but RS has far superior customer service and simpler easy to service internals.
Anyone recall how well received those 2013 fox forks were in the media, only to be universally trashed by the consumers and then later by the press? Soft mid stroke dampening etc? So hold your horses. Fox bows to shareholders, not riders.
  • 1 2
 Ohlins Air Shock
  • 72 9
 What about PUSH Industries 11-6? What suspension company has the the largest marketing budget? The answer can be found in the article above?
  • 35 8
 Nobody liked the PUSH shock when that review ran ... too expensive ... now we don't see it here and it must be a conspiracy. I'm glad Pinkbike readers are grounded in reason and common sense.
  • 10 3
 @DARKSTAR63 the 9K Trek 29er didn't get excluded based on price, but the shock that's too expensive did?
  • 15 2
 I'm joking ... My point was that everyone bashed the thing now its "where's the Push shock? Must be rigged!"
  • 3 4
 they nominated $8,000 bikes for bike of the year...^ your logic is not just. i fully agree with river...that shock should be here.
  • 3 2
 I'm sure everyone bashed the 9 thousand dollar 29er too. In fact, I guarantee it. lol
  • 9 3
 Explain why, in your opinion, the Push shock should be here. I'm curious, I'm not saying it shouldn't necessarily - I'm just dying to know why the Trek Remedy was overpriced, but the PUSH shock should be here....
  • 5 4
 In all honestly I wouldn't pick the PUSH shock as a suspension product of the year either. And before I go on, I think it's a rad shock. I don't think there is really a value there though when you consider that the same level of performance (arguably better performance in fact) can be had for considerably less. It's a very niche product. Nothing wrong with that but it doesn't win "shock of the year" imo. *disclaimer- this in an off the cuff opinion about a shock I have not ridden- it's therefore barely valid. Wink
  • 1 0
 I hear ya, @DARKSTAR63 I wish value played into all of these categories, honestly. How can something be the product of the year if only a small fraction of the population can use it? Most of us will never know how great it is in that case. But, that's just my take. It really depends on what your individual definition of "best" is. Obviously the guys writing the article feel differently, which is all good.
  • 5 4
 On the flip side of that I can argue for the value aspect of a $8-9000 bike. Don't take that to mean it's the best value, or "most" value, but you are at least getting something for that money. The law of diminishing returns means it's not much, but it will get you the lightest bike with the best parts. Something like the PUSH shock ONLY gets you exclusivity, it won't out perform a top shelf offering from Fox or Cane Creek ect.
  • 25 1
 I'm giong back to Bmx, this shit's gettin stoopid.
  • 14 5
 In an industry where everything is overpriced and you're lucky if the product works out of the box, saying the push shouldn't be nominated is a joke. The customer service from Push isn't only unreal, but it should be the precedent for the industry from 2015 forward. The shock feels amazing and is supported at an amazing level. Also made here instead of overseas. Overpriced you say? How many shocks will you have to buy over the next 5 bikes? You can take the Push with you from bike to bike. Invest now and be happy for the foreseeable future.
  • 3 1
 Thank you for that constructive criticism.
  • 3 2
 I didn't say it was over priced. I understand why it costs what it does. You didn't understand what I was saying.
  • 3 1
 How can you proclaim that sort of reliability when the shock hasn't even been around more than a year or two? I've own Fox shocks and Rock Shox products that have lasted several years ... needing nothing but servicing and oil changes. So I'm lost at that point. Made in America and customer service... I can not dispute that. I'm betting the PUSH is a pleasure to own.
  • 7 3
 PUSH ElevenSix nominated and won already in my book. The performance is unreal. The cost is the same as a new Fork. As noted here, the customer service was way beyond top-notch and I expect the reliability to surpass any air shock (easy considering seals...)
Why is the Lyrik here??? Slightly stiffer chassis, absolutely nothing else new compared to the Pike... They even neg-propped it on this article noting no 20mm axle!
Fox 34, same thing, possibly a slightly updated chassis and a different damper tune, but nothing groundbreaking whatsoever, just incremental improvements.
Neither of those forks have anything new beyond what we've already seen on the Pike and Fox 36 in the last couple years.
The X2 shock at least qualifies at is new engineering compared to the past (with respect to negative air chamber and damper).

PUSH Elevensix has opened the door for a climb-switchable coil and now other companies are scrambling to catch up (Cane Creek, Fox, Stendec).
  • 5 2
 I don't know, they rode all this stuff and this is what they liked. I wouldn't read into it too much. It reminda me of the "DIRT 100" which I love reading. I don't read into the UK bias or worry about why my bike or part isn't there, I just read it and enjoy.
  • 4 2
 @DARKSTAR63 the ELEVENSIX should be there because it's the first shock that's really two shocks in one. When you flip the switch, it swaps to a second, entirely independent compression circuit. They can be tuned any way, and still have external independent hi/lo compression adjustments. That's pretty friggen' sweet if you ask me, and certainly never been done before. While the price is without a doubt the major drawback, they are nominating a $9,000 29er for bike of the year. lol.
  • 3 2
 That is a cool feature, I really have nothing against the shock, I'm just not in a position where I desire to own it. I'm very particular about my suspension but once I set damping characteristics I leave it alone. I may adjust slightly here and there for different tracks/mountains but that's easy to do, I don't need a second circuit. My trail bike setting I never touch- they are set for where I ride and that's that. I like predictability. It's really neat, don't get me wrong, I'm just not overwhelmed.
  • 3 1
 That is a potential reason it should be on the list though @cod51 cheers to that
  • 4 0
 After being on an ELEVENSIX since july, it's the most game changing thing i've ever bought, and i no longer need to shop for shocks fort any bike in the future that replaces my nomad.
  • 3 0
 Cars, TV's, downhill ski equipment, Hi-Fi equipment; all these products have "product of the year" awards thru various magazines and cost is mostly not considered unless there is tremendous value. PB's bike of the year award ticks this box this year. The benefit of expensive products is that it tells us where the industry is headed. 25 years ago only the best cars had air bags, abs and now you can get a 13,000 Kia with more tech than a Mercedes had 25 years ago for 4-5x the price.
My only issue with the Remedy as bike of the year is it's a 2015 model, there are only 2 sizes left, and the 2016 model is different. That should have been pointed out. Why wouldn't the 2015 Nomad still be considered then?
  • 2 3
 It has adjustable length and stroke ? @PaulLehr
  • 1 0
 Basically yes @Darkstar63. If you buy a new bike and want to swap the shock over it can be adjusted via a new pushrod and valving to fit the new bike to my understanding.
  • 2 2
 Touche.......But I wonder ? ...This is a cost free service?
  • 2 4
 It's not going to sell me on it.... These are valid reasons that maybe it should have been on a list like this. It looks well made and I'm sure the customer service is top notch. But they rode it, they rode these, and the picks are picks. I can't do a list I have to ride everything first. I now bow out of this one, cheers gentlemen.
  • 4 1
 It looks pretty sharp in those Knollys
  • 7 1
 Gotta agree about the 11-6. Most absolutely should be on the list. I have one for my Nomad, and it simply makes the bike better and even more versatile. It is two shocks, but with the convenience of one. It is the most set and forget shock I have ever used, and the adjustments all work within a range that is appropriate for YOU, not for an entire market. That was the biggest attraction for me when I was considering it. You can have both chips valved to do whatever you want them to do. I wanted two set-and-forget settings for two different types of terrain. One for techy east coast trail riding, and one for fast bike park/DH. What PaulLehr is referring to is that you are investing in this shock. Not just buying one. Its the business model Push set up for this shock, and it is a FANTASTIC model. Buy a new bike, and they will convert the length and valving for you for free. Want to change the tune in one of the chips, and they will do that for you. You are not stuck with an aging, depreciating, and rapidly becoming obsolete product. I know it's an expensive piece of kit, but the sum of all these features, the performance, and the service model make it worth the cost, and puts it above and beyond anything else on the market.
  • 4 0
 i can't see cost being an issue for it. people will buy enves and not know how to tune their shock set up so..
  • 3 4
 Selling a shock that lasts forever, that they service and re-valve forever- is arguably a terrible business model but it's admirable. Maybe it's the limed production that keeps this viable while they continue to earn dollars off of other manufacturers shocks.
  • 6 6
 I own the push & it's sheer quality.I think it should be a nominee, it's no more expensive than a set of Fox forks but essentially does the same job so what's the issue.For those that can't afford it there is a simple solution.Work harder.Also the Fox 36 is aw way better fork than the lyrik and were seeing nothing new in the Fox shock that we haven't seen on a cane creek.C'mon PB, it's like you ain't even trying sometimes.
  • 6 3
 @DARKSTAR63 I owen a PUSH eleven six. It should absolutely be on this list. First of all it's 100% american made. Amazing service unlike anything else available. I filled out their form telling them exactly what I wanted from my shock. I got a phone call the next morning from the man himself who was about to build my shock. He informed me that he was going to build and tune my shock to my exact riding preferences, weight and frame characteristics. He was stoked to tell me that he'd probably get it built,tuned,tested and out the door by the end of the day. I was also super stoked to find out that I could take me new shock from bike to bike for as long as I wanted to. All I had to do was ship it back to them, they'd re valve and tune it plus change the length of it to fit what ever new bike I buy in the future. All you have to pay is for the annual service. I had my PUSH on my bike in North Vancouver in less than 3 days after I ordered it! Also this shock was the first of it's kind. A coil shock with a climb switch is pretty much the raddest thing going. I've been ridding it for about 8 months and it still feels incredible. The recommended service intervals are once every twelve months. $1200CAD sounds like a lot of money up front, but you definitely get what you pay for. Not only does it feel and work better than anything out there, not only do you get factory rider type service, not only do you get 2 valves on a coil shock, but you also can take it to whatever bike you buy next! SO RAD.
  • 1 0
 own*
  • 2 1
 @DARKSTAR63 yea, for the cost of rebuild and needed parts. retunes are included during rebuild if you want to change up just because. insane value when you calculate never needing another shock.
  • 6 2
 I would have to agree with most of the people above. The 11/6 was the most revolutionary suspension product released last year and the first truly custom damper setup that I have seen. Each one is custom built to the rider and it is not just the shim stack, but the entire valving system.

Lyrik is a joke and I was a huge fan of the 26 model. It is nothing more than a marketing exercise on the Pike. If you want a really stiff fork with adjustability, buy a 36.

Fox 34 is a fork without a market. Trail riders buy the Pike and Enduro riders buy the 36 or Pike. XC guys buy the 32. Who buys the 34?

X2 is a great shock, but it is also a straight up ripoff of the CCDBA. I would buy one over the Cane Creek just based on my experience with the Cane Creek Inline, but there is not much original about it. Japanese engineering from the 70's and 80's, take a good product, make it reliable and sell a ton of them.
  • 3 0
 I spent some time on the 11-6 on a Knolly Warden. It should receive the nomination. Pretty heavy shock though.
  • 3 2
 eleven six owner myself. Coming off from CC DB AIR CS. Totally game changing from a feel, confidence, adjustment, durability, ease of use perspective. In a game where pedals cost $200, wheel sets cost $3000, even the price tag for 11 six is not is not crazy. I didn't read a ton of critical press on the 11-6, so I am not sure where @DS is getting that. Never tried the Fox Float X2, so can't comment there, but 0 regrets on about investing in the Push 11 6. PB omission maybe due to number of units sold or not enough time riding / comparing. Was long term maintenance and TCO a factor in the selection? Oh, and 11 6 doesn't just have 'coil like feel' it has a custom tuned HyperCo Ultra Light Suspension Spring.
  • 2 1
 One other point...typically you purchase a shock at your lbs or online. Set it at defaults or where your friend has his set. You then either leave it set that way forever (potentially missing out on the best settings for you) or spend a good chunk of your riding time testing and tweaking settings. 11 6 (or their authorized re-seller) works with you and custom tunes the coil, the low and high speed settings, and the two switch settings based on your specific bike model, weight, riding style, and riding terrain. The result is a pretty much adjustment free shock that you install and ride. To me having a shock that is custom made for my bike frame and saving several hours of testing (and possibly never really being 100% the shock is set optimally) is worth the additional cost.
  • 10 1
 An awful lot of purchase justification from the 11-6 brigade here Smile

I've ridden one, there is a lot of fawning over it. As a non owners more subjective opinion, it was a really good shock. Is it twice as good as a DHX2/Float X2 (based on price)? No, not at all.

With the CS addition to the new Fox shocks that difference reduces further. Still it's good products like this exist, it pushes (no pun intended) others to improve and develop.

I do like the feature of being able to rebuild it to another bikes stroke/i2i though (subject to fitting). Thats a great idea.
  • 1 0
 own*
  • 4 5
 In the context of what this entire column is about, I do not see any of this as purchase justification. Rather people saying it is quite arguably a hilarious oversight that something that is doing things so differently, so much better, and with so much more development and innovation in adaptability, performance, longevity, durability than any one of the three nominated products, or all three combined, did not even make it onto the list. That's pretty funny. I'd also rather be hearing from people that actually went through the process and made the move and understand what the whole package is about, in addition to what it does to the bike, rather than people sticking up for or putting down something they have never seen or touched or ridden or had built for themselves, their bike, and their preferences.

Nobody else above has really gone into the performance aspect of the shock, but more focused on so many of the other things you wont find anywhere else. The reality is that the all-around performance is something you wont find anywhere else as well. They developed these for longer travel bikes, and not for DH bikes, I believe because the exposure to a huge number of variables in speed and terrain and application is where this shock really stands apart. Its a shock for the mountain biker. Not for the DH racer, or the xc racer, or even the almighty Enduro racer. Its meant to go with you anywhere at any speed and in any terrain and just keep working in a predictable and quiet way.
The funny thing about the performance is it just goes about it in a very subtle way. Is it twice as good? lol. Well that depends on what specifically you are measuring. Is it twice as good as the Monarch that came on my Nomad? In some ways and terrain more than twice as good, and in others maybe just a bit. But it is better in very many ways than the Monarch would never be able to achieve. Its kind of a shock without the normal compromises we have become accustomed to. It manages to be unbelievably plush and active and responsive, while still providing support and pedaling efficiently. Kind of have your cake and eat it to. Combination of the bike and the shock for sure, but damn the Monarch and any other shock I have ever tried previously has Never been able to come close to accomplishing that feeling. It was Always a compromise in every setting. Good here, bad there, even worse over here.... Change... Ok here, better there, unrideable over here... Change... Change... Change... Always with compromises. I'm still scratching my head sometimes about how good the 11.6 feels Everywhere. Its a conundrum. You just leave it alone, or tweak a setting to achieve a better feeling somewhere specific. Change from one circuit to the other, and the shock completely changes, because it is in fact now valved like a completely different shock, but those magical "without compromise" properties remain in tact.
Climb switch, CTD, Lockout, Shapeshifter, Pro Pedal, Travel Reduction, bar mounted remotes? LOL.

Not justifying. That's what I try to do with my wife. lol.
Just sharing my own experiences with fellow mtb'ers that obviously have similar interests.
  • 3 2
 Its tuned to the rider, everyone will have a different way of saying what they like but i'll put it simply.

THE 11/6 WORKS SO GOOD YOU FORGET IT'S THERE. and honestly, IMO that the best thing to can say about a suspension product.

for me, it turns my nomad into a literal quiver killer, switch in valve 1 for uncompromising grip and technical descending, switch to valve 2 for firmer pedal platform without losing sesitiving so i can ride xc laps, hell i've maxed out the firmness and hit bmx dirt jumps on it just to see if i could, and i just turned back a few clicks right to my old settings, without tools.Try that with anything else on the market

it's also changed the game of customer service. if i have a question about tuning, i can call and talk to the tech who built and dyno'd my shock and get an answer or advice.
  • 1 0
 Eh, i bought a factory team 34 for my '14 trance.

That bike came with a way under spec'd 140mm 32. That fork blew donkey-d

34 made the bike way more capable and steering much more precise. The cost was a few hundo less than a pike because the pike gets fanboi love*.

The 34 is a good fork. With the updates i bet it's a great fork.

*disclaimer: currently ride a pike and give it fanboi love
  • 4 1
 If you really look at the products above they are nothing but answers to their competitors offerings. Rock Shox Lyrik RCT3 is an answer to the Fox 36. The Fox X2 is the answer to CC Double Barrel and RS Vivid. I'm not sure why the Fox Float 34 is even on the list......maybe due to OE volume. Although, I'm very tempted to try the Fox Float 34 on my Turner Flux.

None of the above products deserve the title "Suspension Product of the Year". In my opinion the 11-6 does.
  • 2 0
 ^just saw that. agree. when it comes to wheels and dirt grip should always be recognized.
  • 54 2
 I'm here for the comments...
  • 34 14
 Comments are sold too:

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Product of the year prize: Ebay bidding ended at 348400$
  • 6 0
 Hey Waki--I'd love to read that blog. If you can PM me a link that'd be great.
  • 10 0
 you forgot to add what it cost to read all yours, waki
  • 27 0
 Is Waki himself paid by the industry ?????? ...
  • 18 0
 Some say he thinks Pinkbike is a tricyle, and he's been banned from the Helsinki Velodrome. All we know is he's call the Waki.
  • 2 0
 Love this ^^^^^ (@acali - Stig reference)
  • 37 0
 I'm shocked that Fox was nominated twice.
  • 10 0
 The new suspension designs sure seem to be springing up more and more.
  • 4 9
flag elliotjamieson (Dec 23, 2015 at 11:18) (Below Threshold)
 they made some pretty amazing suspension this year compared to recent years
  • 7 0
 Their Performance seems to have Evol-ved in the last 3-4 years.
  • 7 0
 Their 34 fork definitely rebounded from last year
  • 4 0
 I'm still in the air over which fork will be the top dog this year.
  • 4 0
 Yeah what the fox going on around here! Off topic but preloaded with suspenseful pun.
  • 7 0
 I almost burst my bladder when I read that.
  • 1 2
 Oh wait, I did.
  • 3 1
 I feel like I have to see the same puns every 30 hours of use.
  • 29 3
 Cane creek double barrel coil climb switch didn't fit in the box eh?
  • 20 3
 Name too long?
  • 3 12
flag TheRaven (Dec 23, 2015 at 11:01) (Below Threshold)
 It's not new.
  • 5 2
 @TheRaven Ccdb coil cs is new for 2015
  • 4 10
flag TheRaven (Dec 23, 2015 at 11:33) (Below Threshold)
 The CCDB coil has been produced since 2008. Adding a preset LSC/LSR setting does not make it new.
  • 4 2
 Erroneous, Raven.

Pinkbike Awards 2015: Rules and Guidelines:

"Nominated suspension products should be ...previous models that have been significantly modified or improved in such a way as to provide a clear and recognizable performance advantage."

www.pinkbike.com/news/pinkbike-awards-2015-rules-and-guidelines.html
  • 3 5
 Notice "significantly modified". Like an ENTIRELY NEW DAMPER (34), or COMPLETELY NEW CHASSIS (Lyrik). Not a preset LSC/LSR switch.
  • 2 1
 @TheRaven the engineering behind as you say "a preset LSC/LSR Switch" is a very large modification. Look at the cut outs of a db coil cs and tell me that its not a small little modification.
  • 3 2
 The CCDBCoilCS is a huge game changer. The Fox X2 is already obsolete.
  • 17 0
 What about the BREW Nitro/Millyard Shock? Now THAT sounded innovative. Will there be a review?
  • 20 7
 The new Lyrik? Really? It's a longer-travel Pike. I guess they were really short on options.

I guess the X2 should win because it's taken the crown as the top air shock. Despite being the new top trail fork, the 34 doesn't really offer anything revolutionary.

Despite all this, i'm underwhelmed. I guess this shows that there hasn't been alot of progress in suspension technology this year.
  • 7 2
 Its funny how DH air shocks are constantly measured against Coils. Why not just use a spring if they're so much better than air?
  • 3 2
 Air shocks are tune-able on the fly (by simply adjusting air pressure) and they tend to be lighter. Although you still see a lot of coil overs on DH bikes for a variety of reasons. Recent air shocks have been so good that performance gap has closed, so it's become a bit of preference.
  • 1 0
 Yup I can see why air would be a good choice for some. I used to be really big into tournament paintball, dealing with high pressure air systems was the name of the game. On a DH bike that I'm basically trusting with my life, I'd choose coil every time.
  • 2 0
 You also can't adjust the progression of a coil shock nearly as easily as an air shock. It's one thing to increase/decrease damping, but changing the spring curve is more difficult with a set, physical spring with 50lb gaps.
  • 3 2
 How many years has cane creek been making the double barrel? This X2 isnt new
  • 3 2
 The X2 is new. It was not available last year. Just because it's a twin-tube shock doesn't mean it's the same as a CCDB. There were twin-tube shocks before the CCDB, but it was still new when it came out.
  • 15 1
 Bos, Suntour, Öhlins,... ??
  • 16 3
 Add x-fusion to the list
  • 10 1
 Suntour's Durolux R2C2 could have been on there... solid as hell fork for a great price, with good adjust ability. Not sexy enough.
  • 5 0
 I'm waiting for the Bos reviews...
  • 9 3
 manitou mattoc...
  • 1 0
 agree with kurmo. X- fusion inverted fork for all mountain the Revel. Haven't ridden it but looks bloody awesome.
  • 8 0
 The DVO diamond is an amazing fork and great customer service. Threw a jade on the nomad and it is way better than monarch or vivid air.
  • 3 0
 Yup I'll 2nd that the diamond fork is awesome and much better than pikes I've found. Customer service is mint
  • 6 1
 I'm biased because I like MRP, but the Stage has 16-position ramp control, an air bleed valve, 10mm less axle-to-crown height so you can have more travel without affecting geometry. Beyond that, it has received almost universally great reviews. Could have been a contender.
  • 1 0
 Is it new for 2015? I agree that it's a top-notch fork, but unless i'm mistaken, it's not new. There is a new one coming next year I believe.
  • 3 0
 I could be mistaken. I thought that 2015's iteration was new. It is definitely new for 2016 as well. Custom colors, hydraulic seals, etc.
  • 1 0
 I don't believe it had to be new. I know they changed some things in the Stage and it's gotten rave reviews. Kind of bummed to not see something different on the list.
  • 12 4
 Once again PUSH is left off the roster because they wont suck up to PB
  • 12 3
 Or perhaps the problem is that their shock is twice the price of the next best option. Just a thought.
  • 5 5
 or maybe its just not a very good shock....
  • 7 0
 Price wasn't a factor in the bike of the year category. Trek 29er is 9,000 dollars for god's sake.
  • 4 0
 Did you not see the $9,000 contender for BIKE OF THE YEAR?
  • 5 4
 Yup, but that Trek is not twice the price of other options. Several companies have comparable bikes priced HIGHER.
  • 2 0
 Isn't it hard to believe that 9K isn't the most expensive bike out there? It's crazy... I still feel like 3k for a big is hefty.
  • 4 1
 Nothing comes close to what the Push 11-6 offers.
Lyrik? Again? Its like bringing back frogskins. How is this innovative?
  • 8 1
 What about the smaller companies making suspension better than those two companies?
  • 3 0
 Ok PinkBike I usually never comment on these topics but you guys are missing some other amazing products, to name a few DVO, Push Industries, SR Suntour, CaneCreek, Ohlins, among others. Come on guys, we know Fox makes good quality products but as a constructive criticism you have to recognize the other brands i.e., CaneCreek and Push Industries came up with pretty amazing shocks. Ohlins also has done well with their TTX. Anyway I won't comment anymore on these topics but just saying, today's suspension market for MTB offers a lot more than it used to a couple of years ago.
  • 3 0
 Can't comment on any of these as I haven't ridden them, but my pick for the best 2015 suspension product is the Marzocchi 053 SC32R rear shock Yes, it is a stupid name. Yes the company is now defunct. But this shock is amazing. High speed and low speed compression adjustment, rebound adjustment. Three way climb, trail descend switch with blow off valve on climb setting. Piggyback design for more oil and as light as most non piggyback designs. As to how it rides, it can be what ever you want. For me it is linear like a coil and plush as can be. It feels absolutely bottomless. I have yet to bottom it despite the fact that it feels like I have an additional 50 mm of travel over the Monarch and Fox Float that it replaced. And did I mention it was half the price of the X2!!!!! I hope Fox keeps it going. Or at least learn a little something.
  • 6 0
 X-Fusion Sweep HLR, fantastic performance and price
  • 5 0
 What about the new cane creek? or the new ohlins? I thought I was disappointed yesterday this list is just rubbish
  • 5 0
 @180mm/everything oversized but the axle...ok, contender it is.
  • 7 1
 The Pike wins again.
  • 6 2
 I wonder if the people who criticize these awards were also surprised to know that Charlie Sheen had AIDS.
  • 3 2
 Why have you not added the push eleven six shock? Which has clearly changed the game for coil shocks on Enduro bikes. So much so that other companies like fox, cane creek, ohlins, are all now making coil shocks with clkmb switches for Enduro bikes. Well done Push, you read our minds!
  • 1 0
 @somismtb Not sure why everyone crapped all over you with your Fox 32 comment. I agree with you. I've a RM Thunderbolt 770 with a 32 120mm with a remote for both ends and available climb, trail, and descend positions. Northstar park, Downieville, Hole In the Ground, Mr. Toads Wild Ride, all Northern CA and it's handled it all. No issues, never blown the travel and I've tried. Trust me, I've tried. +1 bud.
  • 1 0
 Hmm. I'm riding a 10 year old Turner 5 Spot with a 130mm TALAS and Romic Twin Tube coil on the rear. Had the fork PUSHed a few years ago; the Romic hasn't been touched since their customer service is non-existent. Bottom line: the bike still rides amazing, climbs well, is a solid descender. The geo is a bit steep and the 26" "obsolete" though the rig has taken everything I can dish out.

It would be an interesting review to see what other bikes and parts are still holding their own a decade later. For the amount of money a new or even reasonably recent bike costs, it would be good to have an idea what companies have established a record of quality and forward compatibility...
  • 6 2
 Why not a small company like Push Industries?
  • 4 4
 I thought the consensus was that the Pike is still superior to the Fox 34 in every way apart from tweakability. Strange. Oh well pick a brand/wheelsize and be a dick about it still rules any comments in this sort of article anyway.
  • 2 0
 I did not get that impression.
  • 1 0
 Nope. I've owned two Pikes (one of my old Enduro 29 and one on my RMB Thunderbolt MSL BCE) and the 2016 34 on my Tallboy is just plain better. It loses out in stiffness but has a smoother stroke and is more supple. I'm a Pike fan but the new Fox forks are better.
  • 2 0
 X-fusion metric is 180mm, 36mm stanchions, 20mm axle and with a superb damper... not sure how that fork brought back the long travel single crown... or even did it best.
  • 3 0
 36 RC2 (Van or Float) has been available in 180mm since like 2010.
  • 5 1
 Clearly these guys have never ridden a BOS deville
  • 4 1
 cheques in the mail PB Make a user poll - consumers determine products of the year, not online e-zines.
  • 2 0
 Just retro FITted a 2016 FIT4 damper in my old 34. Great upgrade in performance for a little over $200, hat's of to Fox for making a backwards compatible/affordable product.
  • 3 1
 I'm nominating my 2015 blown boxxer RC for its squishyness and nose diving ability and you can't forget the basically non adjustability just a superb fork
  • 3 0
 Nominates a fork which nobody has ridden and posts a pic of another fork which nobody has ridden (Yari).
  • 4 1
 This sh*t's better than movies for your Monday.
  • 4 1
 Best suspension product? My knees. Hardtails 4 life.
  • 3 0
 20mm would have sealed it for me, alas fox 36 instead.
  • 2 0
 Vorsprung Suspension - their Corset air sleeve, big improvement without buying a new shock...
  • 1 0
 Bos, SR, Ohlis, MRP.... Yeah, Lyrik, ofc, You can say its Pike with a bit more travel, but for us, freeriders, its all we'll want. LYRIK FTW
  • 2 0
 Single crown long travel... Durolux, float 36, Marzo. You have got to be kidding me
  • 3 0
 I've never listened to a bigger bunch of cunts.
  • 3 0
 Came to see top playa hatin........ was not dissapointed.
  • 5 3
 I like the nominees this year, the Lyrik is a great fork!
  • 3 1
 I had faith that the Lyrik would be back....Slapping that guy on my next rig!!
  • 1 0
 I can buy only Fox product if they are closed out deal.. Too much from the pocket.
  • 1 0
 So stork that's onl been out for about 2 minutes and no one seems to have ridden? I bet it gets lots of votes though
  • 3 1
 Avalanche. Anything being marketed now they can make better.
  • 1 1
 For the most part yes, I got some of Craig's stuff and it is very good. Maybe not the twin tube stuff though!
  • 1 0
 wouldn't the yari be a better choice, as it's near lyrik stiffness for about 2/3rds the price of a pike.
  • 1 0
 It feels like so short ago when 180mm single crown suspension forks weighed over 3kg, instead of only 2kg. I'm getting old
  • 2 0
 Pike
  • 3 2
 pinkbike is so fucked up man
  • 4 2
 not about inovation but money!
  • 1 0
 Shame non of the smaller companies get recognition....like DVO
  • 3 2
 Cannpndale Lefty Supermax?
  • 2 1
 PUSH Eleven- Six

Done & Done
  • 1 0
 Rockshox Totem...bring that back!
  • 1 0
 2 x 34s and a 36 onwards and my rv1 still rides better by a mile..
  • 1 0
 lyrik
  • 2 1
 One word! "Totem"
  • 1 0
 Slim pickin's
  • 1 0
 Lyrik 26' 20mm
  • 1 1
 Still nothing from Suntour? Maybe next year.
  • 1 0
 Marz 66's nuf siad Wink
  • 2 2
 lyrik wins
  • 2 2
 Rct3 solo air ftw
  • 2 3
 After one preview, te Ohlins will smoke all 3 of these next year.
  • 2 2
 Lyrik period.
  • 1 1
 This is shocking!
  • 1 2
 DVO Diamond. Enough said.
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