Pinkbike Poll: How Often Do You Service Your Suspension Fork?

Sep 19, 2014
by Mike Kazimer  
Over a decade later, I can still vividly recollect the smell that filled the shop whenever a Marzocchi Monster T came in for a round of long overdue service. Cracking open the top caps would release a face-puckering scent that can only be created by starting with nearly a quart of oil, exposing it to mud, silt, water, and fluctuating temperatures, and then letting it steep for a season (or two, or three) to create a putrid sludge. If the customer was still in the shop when that toxic smelling oil soup hit the catch pan, the look on their face usually made it clear they realized sooner would have been better than later when it came to servicing their fork.

It's the remembering that's the hard part, especially since many of today's high end suspension forks can go well past their recommended service intervals without even emitting an oil seep of complaint. Plus, unlike cars, there's no odometer to tell you how long it's been since the last oil change, and with service intervals typically measured in ride hours, it usually comes down to making an educated guess about when it's time to show your suspension some love. On modern, cartridge style suspension forks, most manufacturers recommend at least changing the lubrication oil every 30-50 hours, and doing a full, more extensive damper overhaul once a year. It doesn't take long to rack up 30 hours of riding, especially in the middle of summer when there's time to sneak in a three hour ride even after working a 9-5, but this type of service can typically be done without the use of any special tools in the comfort of your own home (but you might want to put something down to cover the carpet if your living room also serves as your personal suspension service center).

And still there s a struggle to believe this is how the Australian World Cup looks.

Does this resemble your local riding area? If so, it's probably time to service your fork.


Despite what the conspiracy theorists might have you believe, the recommendation that you service your fork regularly isn't a ploy to separate you from your hard earned dollars. It's simply a way to extend the lifespan of its internals, which in the long run will prevent you from shelling out even more money to replace parts that break or wear out due to neglect. Is it mandatory that you stop everything and rush straight to the bike shop when that 30 or 50 hour mark rolls around? Nope, but it shouldn't be ignored completely either. A little preventative maintenance goes a long way, and with high end forks hovering around the $1000 mark, spending a fraction of that on an oil change is a worthwhile investment.



Think back to the last time you serviced your suspension, and answer the poll below. All participants will be entered into a drawing to win a brand new SR Suntour Aion Fork.






SR Suntour Aion Interbike 2014

The SR Suntour Aion has 34mm stanchions, and is available in two versions - a 130-160mm travel 27.5", and a 130-140mm travel 29" option. Adjustments include air pressure, along with rebound and low speed compression damping.



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220 Comments
  • 190 9
 If you have a fox suspension and follow their owners manual you will be a the workshop more than at the trail
  • 11 4
 Hahahaha speaking form experience that is freakishly true!
  • 7 2
 I've always been a total klutz when it comes to mechanical work and I've never been to a bike shop for service on my fox suspension....
  • 14 2
 Well i have a pair of Old School Marzocchi 888 RC2X they are set it forget it Oil change and thats all they need, used to work relatively well at the time.. But since i got Avalanche Cartridge for 888 its never been beaten, real set it forget it story only oil change and nothing else Smile and performance is like no other on the market !!!. Smile
  • 17 0
 when she says its starting to rub....
  • 3 1
 My Fox 34's Floats spend more time with Mojo than with me Frown pikes going on next and ill be waiting for the Yeti 6c frame only deals before i buy one so i can avoid FOX "even if it does have 2 little one's with the infinity"
  • 5 0
 Hey Zipp, remember the service intervals on those mini Foxes are the same as their bigger brothers, because Foxes love attention, apparently.
  • 7 0
 Avalanche is super tough - generally speaking for the average trail rider you're looking at about 2-3 years before you need your fork serviced. If you're a regular on the DH tracks and local slopes you can just cut that number in half. Personally I've done fork rebuilds and found that it's better off sending the shocks off to a shock specific company - Reason being is they will have all of the upgraded dampers and spacers that the average rebuild won't have. So far I'm rolling 6 years deep on a Lyrik that's been rebuilt 2 times and regularly maintained - still feels like new and with all the upgrades is better every rebuild - a lot cheaper than buying a new fork.
  • 4 1
 The Infinity switch link uses Fox moto division seals and barely has any movement. I think it will last and not require too much maintenence. Plus, all you have to do is push some grease into the grease ports. 5 minute job.
  • 6 0
 isnt it just a slider ? i thought there was just rails and bushings basiclly
  • 7 2
 Marzocchi 888 RC2X For life! Last service 2011, rock and roll!!!
  • 25 1
 When people will ever learn that Marzocchi is simply superior... Beer
  • 5 8
 Marzocchi USA, how do you think, what rolls over better: a 275 bike with freshly serviced suspension or a 29er with a fork that hasn't been opened for a year? Given same tyres at same (relative) pressure.
  • 36 0
 whichever bike is pointed at the pub, down a hill will get there faster. Smile
  • 1 0
 Well 'Fix' those Frames will be only yeti spec builds for a 6 months or so Frown
Im on a Sb66 with CC DB rear and like i said she will have new pikes in 3 weeks Smile she will do me for a while .. maybe longer while those mini infinity shocks get tested by the public !!

ZIP
  • 5 0
 Damn politics!!! I will have to hire a company with data acqusition equipment to make a point on the internet!
  • 5 0
 Rock Shox has all the manuals available online to show everything from oil levels to how to convert it to a toaster. Like many, however, I found that the service intervals for both my Boxxer and Lyrik were more frequent.

I just got a Marzocchi 888 because I heard so much about the reliability of the 11+ forks, but I realized that Marzocchi USA rarely has anything in stock! Springs are hard to come by, rebuild kits aren't in stock, etc. The 888 is plusher than the old Boxxer, but after riding the Charger Boxxer, I decided to go back to Rock Shox with a '15 World Cup.
  • 14 2
 Not gonna lie @Rattpoison, it is a struggle at times getting parts here from Italy or Asia and we don't carry much for product older than 2008 as we stopped producing parts for them. That said, I also do have to give SRAM props for their service manuals on their site, yet another thing we are working on now. We are trying to both limit the service done on our forks by non-qualified individuals while widening the breadth of service centers that have that knowledge and can do the work.
  • 1 0
 I have a set that have never been serviced, 2006 model I think. Still work well. Don't really ride in the mud here either.
  • 5 1
 The most annoying part servicing Fox forks is grinding down a socket so that it won't round off the wrench flats on the top cap. Having to modify tools just to open the fork up. Gawd - what a stupid design.
  • 2 0
 Sorry but all you need is a disclaimer in the manual and you are ok. You know marzocchi was the first one to ship instructions in the box with their forks way back when and now it is treated like top secret nasa tech and do not touch (when in reality it is one of the simpler systems in use). How about cleaning up the poor info you already give as a start. Ex why is a 2012 888 evo2 320cc oil but a 2013 290? Or even better why is a 66 335cc? Ever taken the top cap off a 2010-2011 off a 66 and completely collapsed it and the rod and see how much oil overflows straight from the factory? What did you guys think oil is compressible? But yet there the chart sits still recommending people to put more oil than a 888 only been 4 years now to fix it.
  • 3 0
 Having ridden and owned them ALL, Marzocchi forks require less love thru out the season. PERIOD! The 380 has been damn magical and its weight is also one of lightest options too! Customer service is pretty upper class too!! I know what I am riding for '15.....
  • 2 1
 jaydubmah - or just stop over tightening them (or smash the balls of the bloke who did). Those things do not come loose easily in most forks out there, in case of FOX or RS using an oring over the top cap threads, there is no bloody way it can come loose. Many people tighten the parts on their forks too hard due to a bad guess that rattling on trail may cause loosening. These are some soft aluminium alloys they are using to make those.
  • 2 0
 That's pretty much the case with all forks though. (rounding of the edges)
  • 2 0
 WAKI - I definitely try not to overtighten stuff - cause you're totally right, the aluminum is too soft. Honestly, if the wrench flats were just 2.5 mm thicker, there'd be no need to worry about chamfered sockets slipping.
  • 1 0
 Get a full device whenever a seal or something goes
  • 2 0
 A way around rounding off top caps is getting a Park cone wrench. The reason that it works is that a thin cone wrench will only grab the base of the top caps' wrench flats. Mine has never slipped like my sockets have and they're made of high quality, heat treated steel so it won't round out. Park is the only manufacturer I found that makes cone wrenches in the larger sizes to fit the 24mm, 26mm, 28mm, etc top caps. A very convenient benefit is the main reason that I got a cone wrench for this purpose in the first place: it still works if your bars don't give enough space to fit the ratchet/socket when installed. Nice for race day repairs.
  • 2 0
 My first fork was an 06 888 made in Italy. Loved that fork even though it was only an RV. I've been wanting to get a newer but I have no clue what model to get haha the boys up here at Canfield like the 380 so I'm thinking that!
  • 52 2
 "i have enough trouble figuring out how a spoon works"
  • 106 0
 I like spoons. Forks are to pointy
  • 8 0
 That made me crack a smile...
  • 5 3
 i forgot when last time serviced since moving to Zoke ..mm
  • 15 0
 and what about the almighty spork?
  • 3 0
 The spoon is too big!
  • 14 1
 How much travel are you guys running your spoons at? Mine's not enduro enough and I'm thinking of upgrading
  • 5 0
 Sporks are the future!!
  • 8 0
 Enduro for mountain bikes is just the same thing as Spork for cutlery
  • 3 0
 Marzocchi I thought you could only get the ti spork in mother Russia?
  • 1 0
 LOL!!!
  • 3 0
 I like spooning...
  • 2 0
 They are used to dig food.
  • 8 0
 Spooning is great but forking is more fun. Sorry couldn't resist.
  • 34 0
 Have DJ3 so this service u speek of isn't needed just ride them till they die Wink
  • 6 0
 Good to see someone else thinks the same way I do but it's also cos I can't afford a service
  • 8 0
 Interesting, I thought not servicing stuff came from the ability to replace it when it dies.
  • 3 1
 all a dj3 uses is grease in the lowers...
  • 1 0
 yup, this is all highly subjective to cartridge dampers. open bath, or in the DJ3's case, grease lubricated is a whole different animal, with much less service needed.
  • 5 0
 yup, the DJ3 is a no-nonsense, "just-git-er-done' fork. grease and seals and spring. solid and inexpensive
  • 3 0
 Grease you say? Recently swapped with my friend for a 2005 DJ3. Since production it was ridden with absolutely no maintenence till last month when I got it in my hands. All I've done was some refreshing and filling with new oil. It works great! Thats a recommendation...
  • 4 0
 2005 for sure used oil..

Dirt Jumper 3 100 185 Oil SAE 7,5 - Cod: 550013 185 Oil SAE 7,5 - Cod: 550013

I was thinking of the new 2014 models
  • 34 1
 I cleaned an original manitou once. Wiped the elastomers and everything.
  • 2 0
 Where did you find the service manual?
  • 56 0
 Written in sanskrit on a temple wall.
  • 11 0
 after you cleaned the Manitou, did you bleed a sacrificial goat? Thems things old!!!!
  • 5 0
 I still have them in the shed, should probably get them carbon dated.
  • 17 0
 I have have a 2007 Marzo Z1 that occasionally got an oil change, checked the bushes lately: like new!
My Boxxer on the other hand...half a season and bye bye oil! wonder if it came with oil in the first place!
  • 27 1
 Actually there are quite a few stories of boxxers not coming with enough oil. Which reminds me, I should check mine
  • 6 1
 same with fox...
  • 5 0
 I bought a second hand pair of 2011 boxxers and read the same. Boxxers not coming with enough oil.

I wanted to do a full service myself as the cost put me off. So got the full boxxer service kit off TF tuned for about £45 rather than £90ish to send them away.

So did plenty of research, some youtube vids and printed out the official boxxer manual from SRAM and spent 2 evenings doing it. That was the best thing I ever did. I really enjoyed doing it myself. The fork had little oil in it so I guessed they had never been serviced and they were one of the boxxer's with little oil in from the factory.

So long as you have the right tools, a clean working space I would say give it a go. Just do your research first.
  • 4 0
 its good to check oil right from the get go.

but before i sound too anal aboout maintenance, i run rockshox for about 3-400 hours before doing a full rebuild (ie all seals). Lowers come off every 100 hrs or so, new fluids go in. I'm lazier than other people but I've been doing this for years and everything keeps running smooth. Up around 600 hours the seals shit th bed.
  • 1 0
 I sent my 2008 888's for a service in 2012 ( had them from new ) as I thought it could probably need one , Zocchi told me it was a waste of time and I should of just done an oil change as the seal and bushings were spot on! And thats from the year that zocchi went to shit with reliability !
  • 15 0
 I've left my Fox 32 Floats for 3 years before servicing them last week. The price of a Mojo service put me off and wasn't sure how tricky it was to do at home. Now I've finally done it myself at home (seal and oil change) and seen how simple it really is, I'm definitely going to do it much more often now, the forks feel like new again!
  • 12 1
 One of the single most important things a Fox owner should do is store their bike upside down. This keeps oil in contact with the foam lubricating rings and keeps them saturated. Without this simple step the rings will eventually be stripped of oil from use and gravity and the seals will run dry. I can't tell you how many Fox forks I've serviced that still had oil in the lowers but dry rings and blown seals. This is actually a recommendation of Fox but they seem to bury it in their service manuals and only mention it once....guess it keeps the service guys busier that way.
  • 10 0
 Flipping my bikes now...
  • 5 1
 good point but then it's not great for your brakes... Your brakes have 0% air in theory, but there are always tiny bubbles. With your bike stored upside down, the bubbles will migrate up to the caliper and that isn't great.
Brakes > suspension Smile (> meaning more important than)

I would maybe suggest putting your bike upside down and pumping the forks a few times (it should be enough for oil to soak the foam rings a bit...) then pump the forks the right way up a few times (then all the oil in the damper will be in the right place).
  • 5 1
 Never had a problem with any brakes being kept upside down....just don't go pulling lever with them like that. Some designs are worst than others though so if you run Avids, I'm sorry (for a lot of reasons). If storing the bike inverted causes brake problems then it's time to give them a bleed...and now you know where the air is so just shoot em out the caliper Wink
  • 4 0
 ...Oh, and the oil in the damper is always in the right place...it's a sealed and bled unit in Fox forks. Incidentally, I also suggest this for Rockshox forks as well even though its not a necessity. There are no foam rings to keep wet, but inverting them will allow oil to flow to the space between the upper bushing and the oil seal, creating a lubricating bath in the upper part of the fork that lasts for at least a day of riding. This is an old Boxxer trick and works awesome. Basically, you store the fork as if it's an inverted fork and reap the benefits of well oiled seals....and no, it will not harm the damper.
  • 1 0
 Never heard that before B-Mack.. mine will go upside down also .. ..
  • 4 0
 I'd heard that's a good thing to do for a few minutes before you ride, but not for storage. I'll have to remember that.
  • 1 1
 Thanks for your answer. I wasn't very clear, the damper is sealed and the oil can be in the "wrong" place but won't do any harm (meaning it isn't in the same place as when you ride... if that makes sense... Wink ).

Avid are the worst brakes available (sorry for saying that), I remember on the chairlift, the bike is upside down for a few minutes. It doesn't do the brakes any good (even freshly bled).

Even better brakes (shimano or hope IMO) shouldn't be stored upside down, they just don't work as well afterwards (brake point varies afterwards) (even with a fresh bleed). Smile
  • 12 1
 My forks are really in need of a service but I cant face spending over £100 to send them off and have it done. If anyone could point me to a tutorial on how to do it yourself I would be really grateful. How different is the process for different forks? How much is the initial cost of all the equipment to do it?
  • 6 23
flag markunit10 (Sep 19, 2014 at 1:03) (Below Threshold)
 derp
  • 12 0
 just search for your fork on youtube! I have found that there is a tutorial for nearly everything concerning bikes/forks etc.
In my opinion the "standard service" including Oil change, dust wiper replacement and relubricate the foam rings, could be done easily by yourself and would cost you half the price....
  • 3 1
 Go on YouTube and type your fork model in. You'll find hundreds of company own produced videos for you to follow.
  • 5 0
 Most shops will do a basic oil change and seals for between £25-£40. Saves you sending them off
  • 5 0
 Yeah but most people are capable of doing that themselves and saving time + money while achieving something
  • 2 0
 buy your self a torque wrench, i did my fox 32's without one and sheared the low compression rebound nut off lol £100 later, i would have been better off sending them off!
  • 3 0
 The F36 isnt hard to do. Just make sure you have all the stuff you need before you start. The first time i did, it was scary and took awhile bc l really didnt know what to expect. Now its easy and can be done in 20minutes.
  • 2 0
 What fork do you have? Most can be completely rebuilt with the tools you already own to service everything else on your bike, you'll just need to buy a syringe or graduated cylinder to measure out the oil, and a pick set, which is handy for all sorts of other stuff too.

Different forks vary greatly, an old Zoke can be done in 15 minutes with zero knowledge, a Fox TALAS is harder to rebuild than it is to put a man on the moon.
  • 2 1
 Oil only changes are totally easy and harmless, it is when you start getting into seal changes and other more serious service (like shim adjustments or cartridge bleeding) that it can be more difficult because of the disassembly required (mostly because you start getting into needing specialty tools and sometimes tutorials).
  • 1 1
 25-40 GPB for a oil + seal change !!! Double that price at least !
(maybe there are super cheap lbs' in some places....)
  • 4 1
 I love the above response from Marzocchi: exactly the opposite of the typical FOX "If somethings wrong, send it in for service. that'll be $150, unwashed pleb."

Heck even my FOX dropper(which i really like) has literally no basic maintenance manual even for little things like cleaning the seals.
  • 2 0
 service.foxracingshox.com/consumers/index.htm
it is very easy to service the forks - most of them are basically the same. If you have FIT then doing lower legs service would be like 20 min tops, doing the FIT is like 10 min more. For the lower legs I'm using motor oil as this is just lubrication for the bushings. For the FIT you can use Silkolene PRO RSF 10W
BTW with RS it easier as they have all the tools, parts and instructions on line
Do lower legs every 3 month of riding and full service every 6 months and you would never have any issues with you forks
  • 2 0
 Thanks for that link. I've always heard that the Talas Fork was hard to service. Looking at the service manual, it looks tedious, but not difficult.
  • 8 0
 For all you that own Marzzochi forks.......................carry on. I like to ride my bike with out worrying if my fork is working properly.
  • 3 1
 Luvin my 55 RC3,s and my Shivers! Thanks Marzocchi.
  • 4 1
 Smile Smile very welcome
  • 2 1
 My 2008 888 RC3's are still running perfect after having just 1 oil change in 2012 , and that's from the year where zocchi went of the rails and they were plagued by problems !

I'm considering buying a new fork pretty soon , more for weight saving than performance upgrade really ( not that more performance isn't what I want as well )
I'm currently looking at Boxxer Teams with the Charger unit , at that price they are hard to dismiss , but I'm scared to hell of losing that Zocchi reliability , rarely hear of problems with 888's but Boxxers on the other hand..

If the new 308's are as reliable as my old 888's, it could tempt me away from the Boxxer teams , but the price hike is quite considerable.
  • 6 0
 there is always the new non ti version of the 380. they are considerably less cash. no Espresso stanchions or SKF seals though Frown but you need to save money somewhere. USD retail is $849.00. I'm not trying to hijack this thread though
  • 9 4
 If you use veloviewer.com linked to your strava account at the bottom of the summary page it details the number of hours riding time (excluding stopping time) for each of your bikes so it's much easier to know when a service is due.
  • 36 4
 Ha ha. Strava.
  • 3 0
 this might be a legitimate use for Strava. Its like a time odometer.
  • 4 0
 I use strava to record every ride. I have meny bikes (at mo one for every day of the week, but don't tell er in doors) and each bike is listed on strava. I change the bike used on that ride, and so gives me an idea of an items life/service need!
  • 6 1
 70% of the fork issues we deal with at Plush are caused by riders trying to double or triple the service times on their units. Even a simple lower leg service will help alot to stop stanchion wear and prolong the life of your now incredibly expensive suspension systems. Silicon lubes cause alot of problems aswell. You should really only use suspension specific lubes after cleaning your bike recommended by the manufacturer. Fox Float pillows for instance are great for after bike cleaning for all makes of forks.

Once a year for a full strip and build
3 times a year for a lower leg clean up (without seals) which can easily be done on the majority of forks at home with our Plush service kits! (shameless plug sorry!)
  • 1 0
 I agree. I discovered some sort of contamination issue with my Slide RL2 in the air spring side that caused some sort of electro-chemical reaction that corroded the stanchion surface at the top of travel which caused 2 sticky rings... One when it was originally set to 100mm, and another from when it was set to 120mm.
  • 1 2
 Maybe a shameless plug,but you should have left your email address!
  • 4 1
 You didn't notice the cracked shaft eyelet after I sent my Vivid back to you 3 times for repair/inspection though ..

TF had it on the bench for less than 5 mins and discovered it ... thanks for the month with no riding !
  • 1 1
 Hi Bigburd.

We warranty our workmanship for 3 months however we can guarantee that parts wont fail after servicing and we always inspect items properly for any faults however we do understand that things can go wrong sometimes its easy to miss small things like cracks.

I haven't got any record of a Vivid coming back to us 3 times in our entire service history.

Could you supply your name so I can investigate?

Thanks
  • 2 0
 My name is leon whyburd I realise you.warranty your work for 3 months but you were not finding the problem after several attempts so I just gave up and sent it to TF and they found the problem right away . If it was cycled thru a few compressions you would of seen where the oil was leaking from
  • 5 0
 That is a poll for fox users. When you have an old Marzocchi, you are eager when you service it every xmas. I know a guy who has got a fox40 and he lubricates it several times in a month. Even it was 100times better working than my old 888, my life should not consist in servicing a fork.
  • 4 0
 If you're lazy at heart then only change splash oil in the lowers. On the vast majority of forks (yes even Fox) is takes one or two sockets, a mallet a bucket, 5 quid's worth of synthetic fork oil and 20 minutes of your time. Do this 2-3 times a year - your forks will love you long time!
  • 3 0
 Run a set of Fox Float RLC's (2005) and RP3 of the same era in northern England (Rain Mud and millstone grit), and strip and service them once a year, when I also do the headset and frame bearings, BB and hubs. All still good 9 years later. Can be done in a day if i lock the kids out of the garage, and tell the wife she could go shopping.....
  • 5 1
 I have a Marzocchi Shiver and I do an oil change once or twice a year. It's still running super smooth after 12 years! I want to get a more modern fork but servicing after 50hours of riding is ridiculous!
  • 2 0
 USD forks mean seals last fo-ev-a, it's true. that said, you're probably due to swap them out(did mine at about 8 years.)
  • 6 3
 Watch out for Rockshox fork, I suspect that they came out with few oil from factory (in legs, not in damper). Just open lower legs, clean all, and put 15mL fully synthetic motor oil in each leg. I do this for 5years now for recon, pike, domain, and no problem at all.
  • 6 0
 you use 15 weight fork oil in boxxers, and it is 10mL/10mL for a WC, 10mL/40mL for r2c2/rc. don't use motor oil
  • 1 0
 My RS totem came with not much oil on the lowers and too much oil on the damper. Completely off spec.
  • 2 1
 for the lube oil, it really may not matter if you use motor oil(though fork oil is pretty cheap, so why not use it?) as for the damper, you're not going to like what variable weight oil will do to your damping. If it's a RS fork that's older than the Pike, the lube oil is the damping oil. so use fixed weight oil, knuckleheads.
  • 2 0
 I agree with groghunter. There is no problem to use fully synthetic motor oil as a substitute for LUBE oil. If it lubes an engine, it lubes a fork Wink For open bath forks or for damping, use only fork oil with the specific weigth of course.
  • 3 0
 I think every one with a little intelligence could service their own forks and tune if the information/parts was available to the masses .............bit of a secret society ......oh and money making businesses ........oh and dont forget there's BOS...say no more !
  • 3 0
 I got a DJ1. the seals are getting a little old but i just turn it upside down to flush a load of oil onto the seals and that does the trick a little. I really need to get new seals and bushings. marzocchis are great for not needing that much attention
  • 2 0
 Not enough . period

I always end up breaking the internals. And I swear I usually run slightly high pressure. I'm so sick of it that I sometimes just keep riding the fork broken (depending on what's broke). 'Cause I hate the down time.
  • 3 0
 Except for my '13 Fox 34 CTD. That was a load of shite from day one. Ended up having it rebuilt, and guess what. Wrong part, wrong part, wrong part. I shit you not. After the rebuild ('14 internals / new oil / climb spring with the right pressure) the thing was like a completely different animal. I dare say, about 8/10's as good as my Pike. No more dive, climb mode worked, a bit harsh... but hell, felt like a normal fork. @Fox - you bastards should have done a recall.
  • 2 0
 Not sure what model you had, but you know they *did* a recall for most '13 evolution forks. Not sure if they did anything better with '14 but '13 O/C damper was terribile. Completely unreliable even after the recall, it just continued spitting damper oil in the lower and sucking air and lubrication oil inside...
I'm glad I sent it for service under warranty and they finally put a '14 fit ctd with trail adjust there instead of that crap. Completely different now.
  • 2 0
 Fox fixed my 13' 34 ctd on warranty. They updated it to a 14' damper for free..
  • 3 0
 Right I forgot to tell. They replaced the '13 O/C damper with a '14 FIT with Trail Adjust for free. And the also upgraded the air shaft. Oh, new crown and steerer. All for free. So much for all the hatred Fox usually gets here.
  • 2 0
 I got my 34 CTD rebuilt at a race. The outside tech was a champ. Outstanding customer service. BUT - that doesn't mean that someone royally f*cked up with some of the decisions at a corporate level. Quality control? Production issues? Whatever the case, Fox should be owning up to the issues and fixing for free. Regardless if you complain. It's tough to see such good and bad behavior all at once within an organization. I know they've got some really good people there. What I'm saying is that they should have owned up to their mistakes on the CTD in addition to the Evo.
  • 2 0
 I do mine once a year. The time split between my 2 bikes adds up to about 50 hours each. The open bath Fox is easy. I have a Marz 55 Micro Ti that's a bit more time consuming, but I can definitely feel a difference in that fork after the change.
  • 1 0
 First time servicing your forks yourself it's a bit daunting, just make sure you have all the tools and service parts and then the rest is just work it out as you go. Just put everything back the same as before and you've just saved yourself a small fortune
  • 1 0
 Typically, I bring my bikes in to the shop in the spring and allow the techs to determine whether I need a simple oil change or if seals need to be done as well. I had an oil change and all my seals (Front/back) done this spring as well as replacing all the linkage bearings and pedal bearings. The pedal bearing I did myself, but I don't have a bearing puller and didn't want to risk messing my frame up. That said, I do have an old Manitou Minute 2 fork that is now unserviceable due to unavailability of parts since the buyout. They decided to abandon all their previous customers, so I'll never run Manitou again. I'm going to use this to learn on over the winter. I also have a Fox Float 32 (w/remote lockout) on a retired bike (The one just serviced in the spring) that I can use to learn on, but don't want to screw that one up since I plan to sell the bike in the spring. Big Grin
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 I have a set of 2001 Marazochi Bombers that have never been serviced and still hold their own. I handed the bike down to my daughter and she loves them a lot better than her old bike with RST front forks. I think the forks might be older the she is.
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 I don't know how often I service a fork, it depends on how it feels. I service my Boxxer at least before every race and after every hard weekend of riding. But I cut out most of the seals and try and trick a lot with different types of oil etc. My Pike is completely standart and still feels great after quite a few hours of riding. But I'll service it at least before and after the winter!
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 Now, basic maintance is just changing out the lube oil, cleaning out the fork and rinsing the foam rings right? Thats what i have been doing. Only once did l crack open the fit damper it was a b.i.t.c.h to get back together right...all just to put in a little bit more viscus fluid...annoying
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 I had an old talas (gen 1 I believe) bought it used rode it for 2 years got to the point it had so much sticktion it wouldn't sag with me sitting on the bike. New seals, oil and a healthy application of float fluid it feels pretty decent not amazing but good.

Other side of the spectrum. I thought my van 36 was sensitive then I did a seal change and such dear lord.... It sags under the weight of my bike its soo smooth well worth the $20 in seals.
  • 1 0
 I;m still wondering about ride hours...Trails which i;m riding it's 3 minutes long. For me as a dowhill rider its about 15 times per day. 20 days per year. So to sum up its 15 hours. 100hours of riding = 6 seasons... My fork would be definitely dead after that ;p
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 Unfortunately some of us live in areas that have a surprisingly limited number of actual bike shops run by professional people who care, and it's difficult to find one that finishes the purchased service without unfortunate side effects...like new scratches and gouges resulting from the store employees taking your bike out after hours...and having your suspension settings changed... Thanks Livermore Cyclery.
  • 1 0
 I saw this post and decided to try and service my 36's for the first time. An hour of research, got some fork oil, and went to town. Took me an hour all up for front and rear shock, easy as. Thanks for the motivational post Smile
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 Yea I own one and would have to disagree with what you are saying. The weight is negotiable as far as feel while riding. If you are unhappy with the way yours feels you should call the boys over at DVO and let them help you. They are awesome . The emerald is by far the best shit going.... Makes all the others forks fell like antiques.
  • 1 0
 I didn't even know this had to be done.... can anyone give me a rough price on how much it will cost me for a full service on my Monster triples? iv tried looking up tutorials to do it myself but no luck!
  • 1 0
 I do all of my services by myself. As a student living far north I can't really afford to send my fork and rear shock across the country for every 100h. It's not brainsurgery and I firmly belive that most people can do it.
  • 1 1
 Just save yourself a bunch of money get an sr suntour, then save yourself a bunch of time because the service and tuning is super easy. Great product, love my auron and my durolux. Fantastic, simple, reliable, with very good performance. Blows the zocchi and rock shox that they replaced out of the water. SR Suntour = Legit.
  • 1 0
 well my last 66 from 2007 got exactly one oil change around 2010 and it only stopped working because it got bent in a huge crash. now running a 07 888rc2xwc freshly serviced, let's see when that one wants a service
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 Averagely I maintain my suspension forks about once a never. But then again I only have one bike with suspension and I only use that one like 5 times a year.
  • 2 0
 I find some of the options a bit demoralising. Just because i don't know what I'm doing when it comes to fork internals, doesn't mean I don't know how to use a f*cking spoon.
  • 4 0
 You probably just think you know how to use a spoon. Make sure you're holding it concave side up.
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 Yeah, most people I know, including myself, can do just about any maintenance on a bike except suspension. Lower maintenance is probably stupid easy but I fear breaking something expensive while doing the whole thing.
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 Pulling the lowers on my lyrik requires giving the bolts a "tap" with a rubber mallet... the first (and only) time I did it it went. Tap, still stuck. Tap, still stuck. Slightly harder tap, crack, broken. I watched a guy on youtube smack his with a block of wood without issue...
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 When service time comes around
Cheaper to sell second hand an put the £ towards a new fork upgrade
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 So that's what I've been doing! Thanks dude.
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 Dropped the lowers off my revelations and gave them some love a couple of rides ago, after a week of riding in wet minging scotland. I'll send them in for a full damper service after about a year.
  • 3 0
 I have a 2003 Marzocchi Z3 fork that I've NEVER changed the oil and I will NEVER change the oil.
  • 5 0
 you probably should do that soon. the oil that is left in it by now i am sure is just sludge
  • 2 0
 You are most likely correct. However, I have a friend who had the same fork as me and he took it apart to change the oil. Now it leeks all the time and he has to service it quite often.
  • 4 0
 sounds like he may have dome something wrong or possibly the o-rings were warn out
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 He probably installed the seals upside down. If you don't know exactly what your doing, its easy to put them in the wrong way then the fork will leak like a sieve. Been there, done that.
  • 1 1
 I remember opening the damper on my 2003 Fox 40... What a mistake. The bolts were made of butter and it had to be sent in for a rebuild. On the other hand, changing the oil in the lowers was very easy and I did it at least 10 times. I haven't chnaged the oil on my Lyrik yet, but it seems easy enough.
  • 1 0
 I would really like to see polls on how long people actually use parts until they retire them. Like under normal riding conditions, with no gnarly wrecks on them that would cause you to replace parts anyway.
  • 3 0
 Marzocchi forks all the way, you'll never have to service them
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 I have the Fox 32 talas evolution, it doesn't really matter what I do! It's still a crappy fork that will not feel good even if I service it accordingly.
  • 1 0
 hey suntour aren't bad forks. one of the worlds main leading suppler in suspension forks. with the new forks that they brought out this year makes me temped to buy then
  • 1 0
 on the other side, they could do better with (not)provided (if available) service manuals and documentation.
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 i do my own servicing on mine.....boxxers get done regular...my recons have stanction wear on one leg and are dying so there getting rode to the grave :-)
  • 4 1
 If you cant service a FOX yourself you'll be broke very very soon.
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 Go to a race, the outside techs will hook you up.
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 People answering with the last two choices need to be aware that this might be waiting for you when you eventually drop those lowers.

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  • 1 0
 Wow. That's horrid.
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 Only good for hitting with a stick at Fort William now :-)
  • 2 0
 Those little Bender fenders and wiping dust seals clean before every ride goes a long way in keeping your fork clean inside.
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 So my 2009 Float 32 should be due a service huh? Wink
  • 2 0
 Theres no "I can do it myself but still get the shop to because I'm lazy" option
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 once per year for my marzocchi 888 rc2xva
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 Yjust changed the oil in my 06 zocchi after last season wasnt even that bad and seals are fine
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 What!!! They need servicing
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 The old 55's came with sun tour cartridges and I'm not a big fan of them. Hope the new sun tours have improved.
  • 1 0
 Actually Sr Suntour had improved big time over the past 2 years. A few months ago their Werx team provided some valuable feedback about their Auron fork and recalled most Auron forks and did some redesign in the dampener. Now that's good customer service
  • 1 0
 Three times a year for fork/shock....March, July, November . Just routine maintenance. I don't/haven't messed with the damper side.
  • 1 0
 Glad I have the BOS suspension....longer service intervals. The manual states to do an oil change 1x a year and a rebuild every 2 years, so that's what I plan to do.
  • 1 0
 I service mine when I notice alot of residue even when i clean my fork or shock time to send it in so usually every 3 months.
  • 1 0
 I am the most unmechanically inclined person in the world and I know how to tune my shocks given the terrain I am about to ride.
  • 2 1
 Every 25-50 ride hours is crazy. I would have to service it three times a month.
  • 1 0
 It's 25-50 hours of ACTUAL riding, not just being out for a ride. If a lap in a bikepark takes, let's say, 4 minutes, a full day (15 laps) will add up to just one hour. 50 hours of riding time is not as little as you may think.
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 And I am well aware of that. 50 hours of riding time is not as much as you may think. Not everyone rides in bikeparks and uses lift.
  • 1 0
 Fair enough
  • 1 0
 i ride 10 hours of DH 2-3 days a week for the whole season. I usually service my fork 1-2 a month. It seems to be fine.
  • 1 0
 When something is noticeable ill have a crack at servicing the forks or shocks
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 Anybody in need of a service let me know Smile

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Thanks Matt
  • 1 1
 I service/fix mine when a seal blows out...not that i usually have a bike long enough or the suspension long enough that i need to service it anyway....
  • 2 0
 I recommend doing at least a lowers service once a year.
  • 2 0
 '04 Z1 says "Service, whaaaat?"
  • 2 0
 Old school Marzocchi baby! Servicing is measured in unicorn years!
  • 1 0
 Second hand Pikes. We had a chat about servicing. They punched me in the ear.
  • 1 2
 From personal experience with each;
Every 3 weeks for a 40,
Twice a season for a 888
Once a season for a Dorado (and it doesn't even feel/look like it needed it). Best fork ever.
  • 1 0
 www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucmue3R1Tnk freshly serviced regular intervals etc.
  • 1 0
 I think the responses in this thread are a perfect illustration of the demanding riding the average pinkbike rider is doing.
  • 1 0
 My service intervals depend on the model of fork, and what the fork is telling me.
  • 1 0
 Just sprained my ankle... Guess it's time to do a rebuild. Gotta love forced down time.
  • 1 0
 i have a manitou drake, im servicing it every quarter.. most of the time cleaning the lowers for the ultimate plush feel..
  • 1 0
 Every year before the start of the season. Earlier if it gets rough.
  • 2 0
 Once per year - Fox
  • 1 0
 Im a noob; how often do 3 year old fox 36 floats need servicing?
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 Ha, I like the Suntour ad thats included at the bottom of the article.
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 ^ "Think back to the last time you serviced your suspension, and answer the poll below. All participants will be entered into a drawing to win a brand new SR Suntour Aion Fork."
  • 4 0
 Do we get to see the drawing? Can I get a copy?

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  • 1 0
 I've never serviced suntour airs, had epicons and raidons and they have been fine, but also I have changed the bikes with sun tours on more than rockshox/fox.
  • 1 0
 the new SR Suntour DH fork is very decent stuff , probb the cheapest air fork on the market that has everything you need. And seems indestructible too Razz
  • 1 0
 I have a voodoo bizango that has a raidon air fork, the thing is dam good, if a bit on the heavy side! It never looses air, damping is smooth and all I do is give it a squirt of juicy lubes fork juice every now and then!
  • 2 2
 But in all seriousness, the amount of servicing and repairing of the internals of mtn bike suspension is just ridiculous.
  • 1 0
 55 RC3 Ti... 100 hour service interval
  • 2 0
 Once a year in spring
  • 2 3
 I have a fox 36 van, for 2 years ... I've never changed anything and it works like the first day. I think the importance of maintaining exaggerated.
  • 2 0
 From personal experience, not servicing a fox fork for two years is a bad idea. My dad never serviced his Fox F120 fork or float rear shock. After 4 years, even with a small amount of rides on the suspension, the shocks feel like crap. Point is, you may have gotten used to the feel of your fork and can't tell how much the performance has deteriorated. If you want the fork to last you should at least change the oil.
  • 1 0
 At least change the seals, at which point you might as well change the oil
  • 2 1
 Never - sell before they need it
  • 1 0
 Usually twice a year for my Durolux.
  • 1 0
 This reminds me I need to put thicker oil in my 2002 Shiver.
  • 1 0
 Here in Switzerland for the price of 2-3 services you have a new Fork
  • 1 0
 You found the plot Mr. Bond, prepare to die...
  • 2 1
 durado need no service.
  • 1 0
 Marzocchi Shiver period.
  • 1 1
 Get on DVO and enjoy a life of simplicity and perfection.
  • 1 0
 DVO is heavy as a cannonball not bad as idea of settings but have you ever rode one ??? its so hard to adjust and so heavy to ride feels like my fork if you are used to a heavy stuff on the front Smile
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 Yea I own one and would have to disagree with what you are saying. The weight is negotiable as far as feel while riding. If you are unhappy with the way yours feels you should call the boys over at DVO and let them help you. They are awesome . The emerald is by far the best shit going.... Makes all the others forks fell like antiques.
  • 1 0
 if you add carbon lowers for stiffens +300 gr +oil weight so the weight is negotiable Razz i do agree there is some tech inside but come on new MZ 380 is the lightest on the market now and runs less oil and performs far better than DVO. I do not have DVO nor Mz380 i ll stick to my Avalanche cartridge in my 888 RC2X same weight as DVO or even less Smile and performs like no other on the market.
  • 1 0
 I couldn't disagree more.
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 X Fusion - easy to do the work yourself.
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