Race Face Turbine R Wheelset and Vault Hub

Jun 22, 2016
by Race Face  
Race Face Turbine R Wheelset and Vault Hub

R is for Rally. Introducing the new Turbine R wheelset featuring the all new Vault hub. Vault is the heart of the wheelset and the first Race Face branded hub built from the ground up. The engineering team set out to design the best hub on the market, one that would stand up to the performance and quality the Race Face brand is known for.

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The over-sized hub shell provides the opportunity for performance gains: increased rear drive torsional stiffness by up to 20%, and increased lateral stiffness. Perfecting engagement was a priority at the outset of the Vault hub design. The hub features a 60 tooth drive ring with six pawls which have two teeth per pawl. There are two sets of three pawls offset from each other resulting in 3-degree engagement for almost instant power transfer. All pawls feature low-drag springs to ensure quick and positive engagement while retaining low coast drag.

Race Face Turbine R Wheelset and Vault Hub

Proven 6902 bearings were selected due to their large ball diameter and durability. Wide bearing placement was designed to decrease the load on the bearings, improving lifespan. Protecting internals from the elements is key to hub longevity. To ensure product durability and less service over time, we designed low-drag labyrinth seals specifically for the Vault hubs.

Race Face Turbine R Wheelset and Vault Hub
Race Face Turbine R Wheelset and Vault Hub

BEARING SPACING.
Rear mountain bike hubs have two sets of bearings. One set is the load bearings that support the rider and allow the wheel to rotate. The second set, the freehub bearings, allow the cassette to freewheel. The wider the load bearings can be spaced, the more durable they will be. The Vault hub features a 70.4mm wide spacing for its load bearings which helps to decrease the load on the bearings thereby improving their lifespan.

BOOST EXPLAINED.
The Turbine R rim utilizes a lightweight 6069 Aluminum, 40% stronger than standard 6061. The stronger alloy offers improved durability at the bead hook and also allows us to thin any unnecessary material resulting in an impressive 460g 27.5” rim with 30mm internal width. The asymmetric rim design of Turbine R shifts the nipple bed resulting in more balanced spoke tension and a wheel with improved strength, durability, and longevity. We chose to off‑set the nipple bed by 4.5mm which, when paired with the new Vault hubs, gives an equally balanced spoke tension between the drive-side and non-drive-side spokes on the front wheel and a 50% improvement in tension balance on the rear wheel.

Race Face Turbine R Wheelset and Vault Hub
Asymetric rim design with a 4.5mm offset nipple bed.

The Turbine R wheelset was built with compatibility in mind. The Vault hub designed around tool-free end cap swaps to work with current standards like 12x142 and quick release with a separate hub optimized for the emerging 12x148 boost spacing standard. Boost adds distance in the center of the hub between the drive-side and non-drive-side spoke angles. This added width makes for a wider bracing angle improving wheel stiffness.

Race Face Turbine R Wheelset and Vault Hub
The stronger alloy offers improved durability at the bead hook.

Athlete and test rider feedback (including the Devinci Global Racing team) helped us settle on a generous 30mm internal rim width. The wider rim helps improve tire ro­le and tire sidewall stiffness resulting in a more comfortable, con­fidence-inspiring ride. Out of the box, the Turbine R comes with tape and valves installed for a hassle-free tubeless ready installation.

Race Face Turbine R Wheelset and Vault Hub
Damien Oton, Devinci Global Racing. Photographer: Sven Martin

TURBINE R WHEELSET & VAULT HUB SPECS

VAULT HUB FEATURES
Feature

Large oversized flanges for improved bracing angle
Larger bearings
No Bearing adjuster
Wider bearings stance
6 double tooth pawls (3 engage at a time)
120 point of engagement (3 degrees)
Each Pawl has its own spring
Balanced spoke counter bore
Benefit

Improved wheel stiffness for better handling
Improved durability
Nothing to come loose, mount on the bike and ride
Improved durability
Pedal movement turns into forward energy
Improved durability of Drive mechanism
One spoke length per wheelset for easy service

Front hub configurations

Available in 15x100 – can get caps to change this to 20x110, 9x100QR, 15x100 torque cap for RS forks (Not RS1) – No tools required to change only need the correct caps.

Also available in 15x110 Boost – Can also use 15x110 Torque caps for RS forks (Not RS1)

Rear Hub configurations

Available in 12x142 – can convert to 10x135QR , 12x135 – no tools required only need the correct caps

Also available in 12x148 Boost

XD and Shimano Cassette body options for both

RIM
30mm Internal Tubeless Ready Rim.
4.5mm Offset – Improves spoke balance and wheel stiffness
New Stronger alloy for Highest Impact Resistance.
High Gloss Black Water Transfer Logos

Turbine Rally Wheelset
27.5” – 1730g
29” – 1815g

USD MSRP Front: 479.99, Rear: 639.99


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155 Comments
  • 87 15
 Who writes your ad copy? How many errors can you find in this? "We nd the 30mm to be a good compliment to current trail and all-mountain tires on the market. A wider rim helps improve tire prole and tire sidewall stiness resulting in a more comfortable, condence-inspiring ride. Out of the box, the Turbine R comes with tape and valves installed for a hassle-free tubeless ready installation." Get a decent editor who can proof read!
  • 100 0
 But dis haz duh boost and prity pctures
  • 42 3
 Ahem... 'proofread'.
  • 25 0
 There atten to detail makes me excooted to spend $1100 US on their eels.
  • 10 0
 Yeah they need a keyboard with a working 'F' button!
  • 7 11
flag CP-Bike (Jun 23, 2016 at 6:46) (Below Threshold)
 This is the worst written article I have read on here. It was an ad written for race face. If I was them I would be considering someone losing their job! Just my 2 cents
  • 17 1
 @CP-Bike: It is literally written BY Race Face. Think before you draw conclusions and post. This is not a review. Just my 2 cents.
  • 11 4
 The Roval Traverse wheels are lighter and about half of the price.
  • 9 2
 The biggest error I see is the phrase 'set out to design the best hub on the market' is not immediately followed by the phrase 'so we licensed the 240 internals from DT Swiss,' That's an instant disqualification right there.
  • 3 1
 @CP-Bike: I don't think you understand the concept of sponsored content do you. And how about all those other press release posts form other companies, should we stop all of them and fire everyone?!
  • 4 0
 all your bases are belong to us
  • 2 0
 @onemind123: *base, singular. but, yeah
  • 1 0
 @SeaHag Pinkbike needs a decent editor too. There's at LEAST 1 typo in every article I've read here and most have 2-3+.
  • 7 2
 Is this English class now? Who cares if there a few oops. Its all for free. We all F up and make mistakes. Real MTBers just wipe the dust off and move on. Not cry like babies about it.
  • 4 2
 @properp: you're wrong, real "mtbers" ( as you say) are out riding their bikes, not sat on the computer.. Wink
  • 3 2
 @Alias530: I'm still smart enough to under stand it. Sorry some of you think it's such a life altering experience for you to see a typo . If you don't like the site don't log on. Easy fix hu.
  • 1 1
 @CP-Bike: had to up prop you just to stop it falling off the bottom of the page..more for entertainment than anything else Wink . @DARKSTAR63 hits the nail on the head..;
  • 5 3
 @properp: the point you're missing is this... this article has bee written and sent out by the Raceface marketing department... Now, on a subconscious level, wether you like it or not, when you read and spot all the mistakes and errors, it sows a tiny seed of doubt, doubt in the brand and doubt in the product. If a brand makes errors like this on their press releases, then how many issues are there going to be with the product itself.

There's a VERY good book written by a guy called Jan carlson, moments of truth, you should read it, will change the way you look at things... in a good way.
  • 2 3
 @ad15: I rode today did you? I will ride again tonight. You can view my ride log on my profile. I'm posting wile riding with no hands on a cell phone.
  • 2 0
 @ad15: You mean to you personally it 'sows a tiny seed of doubt'. You can't speak for everyone. I personally think someone had a broken keyboard and it wasn't checked over before sending. I don't at all think it speaks for the potential quality of any product.
  • 2 0
 @ad15: They are a part of FUX what do you expect?
  • 4 0
 @mgolder: actually you're wrong.... I'll use this as an example... you go to get onto a plane,, the outside of the plane is dirty, you walk in the door and the floor isn't clean, the seats are scruffy and there's rubbish in the setbacks...
without even realising it your brain wonders if the plane has been looked after properly, will it break down...

this isn't just me talking, this is well a well researched topic and there's plenty of reading to be done about it if you're interested..

yes it was most likely a broken keyboard,, and that's no big issue, BUT.. this is a press release, it should have been proofed and checked before being sent out.. it's a school boy error...
  • 5 0
 @ad15: I don't think it was a broken keyboard but a conversion issue from one format to another, I have seen similar issues when taking copy from a PDF and pasting it in another program.
  • 2 2
 @properp: That isn't the point. Being able to read a sentence with the wrong word doesn't make you a genius. Obviously if you read "he went over THEIR" instead of "THERE", you know what they meant but it's just lazy, unprofessional, and sloppy. Any other website people would be SHOCKED to find a typo but for some reason it's commonplace with Pinkbike editors.
  • 11 0
 The article was written in Illustrator and when that was copy/pasted into a blog, some random characters were created - similar to when you take : and ) and put them together Smile The system pulled these command type characters - result = almost no F's in the article. If you've looked at something 10 times, then a simple change happens, you are not apt to catch it until it's too late and that's what's happened here. It's been remedied, our mistake, sorry.
  • 4 1
 @pinkbikeaudience: I still love u PB! S##T happens.
  • 31 1
 Look really nice - everything I'd be after in a wheel.
On a side note though, I'm going to be That Guy - who the hell proof read this article?! It jumps around all over the place, repeats itself, and is littered with typos. I'm genuinely confused by some of it!
  • 18 0
 Yay, looks like I'm not That Guy Big Grin
  • 37 8
 1100 bucks for an alloy wheelset? joke.
  • 15 4
 If the rims are allright I'd take that over a 700$ carbon wheelset any time, at least for a 27,5. But I'm a bottom feeder so I take DT EX 471s or XM481s on DT comps and any damn hub that comes along, that isn't Shimano or Superstar
  • 5 0
 @WAKIdesigns: hope hoops for you bro, same for me. at half of that.
  • 4 3
 3* hubs and 460g rims seem just right for 1100. flow ex is more like 6-700, but lacks the quick engagement hub, and is 5mm more narrow
  • 4 1
 @WAKIdesigns: hard fighting majestic barbel or the humble gudgeon?never had you down as an angler.topmanSmile
  • 12 1
 I-9's alloy wheelsets are in that same price range and are well worth it. I'd take them over a cheap carbon wheelset any day.
  • 2 0
 @ibishreddin: If you have the new NEO hub you can install a 6 pawl freehub that gets you 5° engagement. That's only 2° off what Race Face is offering. And its sounds amazing.
  • 3 3
 Can someone with trials background have a say about instantenous hub engagement being the bees knees?
  • 2 1
 @WAKIdesigns: apiarist to boot!
  • 6 2
 @ibishreddin: The new Flow is 29mm ID, IIRC...and if you can upgrade the freehub, you still have $400 left over.
  • 6 3
 @Earthmotherfu: If you must know... I have this one bike that is my persona, the official side of mine that tries to make ethically loaded purchases. I even bouggt Hope crankset, for moral show off, of supporting Hope, a local company. I could have installed an old SLX, that is probably the best crankset that has ever been made, probably even up to this day. But I chose this Hope knowing the 30mm axle interface is bollocks that will make me change bearings every 3 months, due to bearing ball being so small. Then I have this second bike that I ride to work everyday, hit pumptrack, practice skills on. And that second bike is a monument to cheap labor and exploitation of s cond hand market, maybe save Mavic rims, but hey! they are French. The moral of the story being, the small poor fkr makes the big elitist prick shine when clock is ticking or friends are watching. It's life right there!
  • 2 1
 @WAKIdesigns: my persona is changing day to day.in out in out in out in out in out in out...if I was to take delivery of sb6c tommorow would I elevate my position into a serious mtb'r or elitist prick or dumb mother Fokker ??Smile
  • 3 1
 I'd pay that for some Industry Nines... That's about it.
  • 1 1
 @rockyjonny: Yeah the Flow MK3 with the neo hub is very nice; and I trust Stans.
  • 6 4
 @Earthmotherfu: I don't trust them Yetis man... They have this thing above BB, they may not tell but it can be some hydro collider or something, looks really complicated. One day you bottom out and BAM! You created a micro black hole on Earth
  • 3 1
 @WAKIdesigns: yes I've got some reservations myself,looks abit Heath Robinson but I'm committed now.just hope call me dave camaroon and Adolf farage around when it goes bangSmile
  • 1 1
 Onyx hubs. Instant engagement.
  • 1 1
 Just ride a fixie!
  • 33 8
 Good Job Industry Nine.
  • 12 5
 way different than any industry nine hub/ wheelset.
  • 3 0
 @SCLuke: Please tell us how it's different! what they inverted ring & pawls position? That's not a difference. The only real difference is they slathered this thing with ugly
  • 1 0
 @bikewizard314: you are right all pawl and drive ring hubs are just copies for I9.
  • 20 2
 I think your "F" key is broke... "osett", "oers"
In the first couple of paragraphs.
  • 7 0
 what the F .. was just about to write the same
  • 11 1
 @zemaniac: raceace
  • 3 1
 The article was written in Illustrator and when that was copy/pasted into a blog, some random characters were created - similar to when you take : and ) and put them together Smile The system pulled these command type characters - result = almost no F's in the article. If you've looked at something 10 times, then a simple change happens, you are not apt to catch it until it's too late and that's what's happened here. It's been remedied, our mistake, sorry.
  • 20 1
 Thai-9's.
  • 4 0
 bravo. +1
  • 13 2
 @raceface although you make excellent and compelling products, whoever put this marketing blurb together did a terrible job with their editing and structure. You repeated the same sentence comparing 6069 AL to 6061. "oset" and "congurations" were two of my favorites.
"Large oversized anges for improved bracing angle" - Anges? Flanges?
"Larger bearings" Compared to what? You're making new hubs. My road wheelset uses 6902 bearings.
"No Bearing adjuster" - Many modern hubs don't require bearing adjustment
"Wider bearings stance" - Again, compared to what? Hope? SRAM? DT?
6 double tooth pawls (3 engage at a time)
120 point of engagement (3 degrees)
"Each Pawl has its own spring" - I can't remember the last time I saw a hub and each pawl didnt, is this a feature?
"Balanced spoke counter bore" - Huh?

I think whoever you have in marketing 1. Doesn't understand the product or the industry and 2. Needs to learn to edit.
  • 2 0
 Oh, you suddenly have a marketing position open? Please accept my resume!
  • 3 0
 A lot of hubs like the novatec and superstar hubs use a round circlip style spring that acts on all the palls at once.
  • 1 0
 I think you know full well they mean flanges. Larger bearings than others they tested I guess. Many hubs don't need bearing adjustment . . . Means many also still do of course. Wider bearing stance than what they previously used I would guess. Just because you don't know what they mean by the balanced spoke counter bore doesn't mean it is wrong you know. All seems pretty obvious to be honest.
  • 6 0
 The article was written in Illustrator and when that was copy/pasted into a blog, some random characters were created - similar to when you take : and ) and put them together Smile The system pulled these command type characters - result = almost no F's in the article. If you've looked at something 10 times, then a simple change happens, you are not apt to catch it until it's too late and that's what's happened here. It's been remedied, our mistake, sorry.
  • 3 2
 @mgolder: Here's the deal - I'm an engineer (terrible words to say, so sorry), so when I see an advert or marketing piece trying to push their design and they make claims, I tend to scrutinize the generalizations. If you are going to give a comparison, please tell us what you are comparing it to. You could say "four times better" but if you're comparing it to the worst design or the best design, the result is vastly different.
That being said, I've never once heard the term "balanced spoke counter bore" used. A counterbore is a bore cut into a surface typically used to recess a head or boss so that it is flush with the parent surface. How one would balance this is beyond me.
  • 1 0
 @ijb2105: Being an engineer literally means nothing when it comes to scrutinising the (already explained above) perceived mistakes in a press release. I could say 'I can read, so I tend to scrutinise marketing pieces for mistakes' and it would hold the exact same weight.

Maybe, I know this sounds really wacky, but maybe you could just email them and ask them what they actually mean about the balanced spoke counter bore instead of shouting 'engineer' and hoping that means people will just go 'oh well, he must be right'.
  • 17 4
 Damn you Raceface! I want those hubs~
  • 11 1
 That Vault Hub looks sick. I wonder what it sounds like? I can't believe they play a video and don't spin the hub so you can hear it.
  • 3 0
 That's the first thing I looked for in this ad. NO PAWL AUDIO = NO INTEREST.. Silent like Zink's Onyx hubs is cool too, just let me hear the sound of silence, Garfunkle.
  • 3 0
 @properp & @endlessblockades, it's actually pretty quiet, especially considering how quick the engagement is - imagine the sound of an Industry Nine hub, but from 20 feet away. Here's a grainy video that might help: www.pinkbike.com/video/448321.
  • 5 5
 @mikekazimer: you lost the sale at 20 feet away from industry nines. I-ride noisy hubs to be considerate of others so I'm not flying up behind them and scaring them. I believe all fast Riders should have noisy hubs.. This allows others on the trail to clear the path without that oh s*** moment of sneaking up on them. Quiet hubs are just like that beautiful girl that lays there silently.
  • 2 0
 @mikekazimer: thanks for the reply if they only sounded as good as they looked
  • 7 0
 @properp: I'm not trying to sell anything - some riders like noisy hubs, others don't. Personally, I'd rather have a little bell on my bars to warn others; that way the rest of my ride can be silent.
  • 7 2
 Nobody likes a silent starfish.
  • 2 2
 @mikekazimer: I know you weren't trying to sell anything. And I know some riders like silent stuff. But that's not me. My ride is silent until I quit paddling then it screams take that grease out Lube it with some Finish Line
  • 3 2
 Make them Buzz or I don't want them
  • 2 2
 Quiet hubs are amazing. Have you ever heard the sound of your tires on the dirt? No? Check out some raw video with quiet hubs and the stunning beautiful velcro sound of a tire railing a hard corner. That's the sound of true skill!
  • 8 0
 So the last version of turbine wheels came in at $599 retail. These clock in at $1120. Must be almost twice as good. I think I'll hold out a year or so and just spend two grand. Like a real champion.
  • 7 0
 Really nice looking wheelset, price is ridiculous though considering you can get CRC to send you, for free, a set of hope hubs with mavic, sun, spank, stans or just about any other rim you choose for about half the price...
  • 2 0
 These are a tough sell at this price point, considering for the same price you can get a proven set of Hadley's, Kings, or I9s and have a master wheel builder lace you up a custom wheelset.
  • 10 1
 Or get I9's for the same price...
  • 3 1
 Thanks I9 for your old hubs! I all ready have 2 sets of these and want the new ones. I hope the endcap grub screw is better than the pre 2013 hubs old tech , skinny straight pull spokes and no pretty colours. Good on i9 if they have sold them old tech and got some cash.
  • 2 1
 They look to be almost just like I9 hubs, but I agree. Cannot complain about either set I have had.
  • 3 0
 @carraig042: I found there aluminium spokes seem to work harden and snap after about 4 years of heavy use.Hardly their fault. And the grub screw wont stay locked in there pre torch hubs. They have changed this to a better design. I would buy them again but the torch version not the old ones which these seem to be. with the new hubs there is less bearing drag apparently. I love the instant engagement and the noise which really annoys some people.
  • 2 1
 @carraig042: I9s use a MUCH bigger bearing on the drive side. my takeaway from this announcement is to wait for version two, when they bump bearing size, at least on the large side of the "wedge" shape.

I mean, you can't say 6902s are terrible, Hope Pro 2s use them, but I9s have markedly improved bearing life over Hopes, IME.
  • 2 1
 @groghunter: not correct, you are looking at the old I9 design, the torch design has a smaller DS bearing which I believe is a 6902.
  • 1 0
 @SCLuke: nope, the I-9 is still bigger, it's just not the giant bearing it used to be. a 61903 is 2 mm bigger diameter than a 6902.
  • 1 0
 @groghunter: . The ID/OD of a 6902 is 15/28mm, the ID/OD of a 6903 is 17/30mm. so yes the OD is bigger but the ID also got bigger meaning the ball bearings inside are the same size.
  • 1 1
 @groghunter: The Drive side bearing location on and I9 hub looks to be further inboard in the hub causing it to take more load than on this design.
  • 1 0
 @SCLuke: Yes, but that still means it probably has an extra ball or two, which will make a difference for durability(depending on complement, of course.)
  • 6 2
 I sure hope the quality of this wheelset somehow turns out to be superior to both the quality of their bottom brackets and literary competencies so proudly displayed in this info-ad.
  • 4 0
 looks like its decent, nothing new, mostly proven designs already implemented in the industry. I will still hold strong to my chris kings though.
  • 7 0
 "large ball diameter"
  • 5 0
 Did they mention a steel freehub? Nothing but steel freehubs, screw the weight unless you get paid to ride. .
  • 6 1
 Those hubs will get my money. They even look sick
  • 1 0
 like the b+stard love child of mavic and CHUB hubs...
  • 4 0
 the design is similar to the I-9 torch wheelsets.
  • 2 3
 @yerbikesux: have you ever actually seen in an I9 hub, clearly not as these are very different.
  • 3 0
 just wanna hear the hub sound.. must be pretty agressive with 6 double clicks
  • 1 0
 yeah!
  • 2 0
 Hope pro2. J bend dt champions. Wtb i25. Bombproof. Replacement spokes at ANY decent bike shop. EASY to work on. ............and most importantly HALF the price of these.
  • 2 2
 Spelling errors in the add? Not a big deal! I bet when you are on the trail riding these beauties that you wont even be thinking about the grammer used.
Im sure the engineering speaks for itself.
  • 7 6
 Vault hub sounds like some of those SWAT things. Her's a brilliant idea: I will put a spare tube into my... HUB!!!

(Trumpets playing James Bond scary moment bit)
  • 2 1
 Those race face hubs look freakin cool!
Ok they mske grammar and spelling mistakes. Like meSmile
Im still intelligent enuf to comprehend the article.
  • 3 2
 You should see the rims too. The offset rim looks great and makes so much sense. A very well thought out product!
  • 4 1
 26?!?!?!?!?
  • 1 0
 Quick question, tried searching on google: Could I use these angleset hubs with non-angled rims?
  • 1 0
 Well... I was so stoked on this wheelset, but i think the prce is way too much though
  • 4 2
 Can the hubs be purchased individually?
  • 3 2
 It looks like somebody pressed the "Submit" button too early and didn't press "Preview" first instead.
  • 1 1
 Or spell check.
  • 4 0
 The article was written in Illustrator and when that was copy/pasted into a blog, some random characters were created - similar to when you take : and ) and put them together Smile The system pulled these command type characters - result = almost no F's in the article. If you've looked at something 10 times, then a simple change happens, you are not apt to catch it until it's too late and that's what's happened here. It's been remedied, our mistake, sorry.
  • 1 0
 Only thing worthy of reading here are the comments. Those summed this article for me in 3 minutes. Thanks ma PB peeps.
  • 1 0
 Like the want to see full suss bikes full compression, it'd be cool to hear the hub engagements.
  • 3 2
 How much? Front and rear prices. How about a little discount for a wheelset.
  • 2 0
 But does it have improved durability??
  • 3 1
 Zzzzzz..... Pawls..... One way clutch bearings please. Boring.
  • 4 1
 I can't even remember how many hubs I've blown up using pawls. It's such an inferior system I'm surprised companies are still bothering with it for higher end parts.
  • 1 1
 @theautomator: Exactly, I won't touch a pawl-type hub with a 10' pole. I'm very curious about the Onyx hubs but I'll stick with King or DT which have been bombproof for me. Any pawl hub I've tried never lasted more than 10 rides (except for Shimano but they're non-convertible).
  • 2 2
 @bogey: I'm a bit confused, because unless you are running an Onyx, a True Precision Stealth or an old Shimano Roller Clutch Hub, you have pawls in your hub, and in every hub you've ever had, ever...
  • 2 1
 @deadmeat25: King and DT use a star ratchet system. King also has a helical spline that adds normal force to the face of the star ratchet.
  • 1 2
 all about sprags man. anything else is kinda silly.
  • 1 2
 @deadmeat25: Any hub using DT Swiss's Star Ratchet is great and of course there is Chris King's Ring Drive. Neither of them use pawls and I've kicked the hell out of them with no failures yet.

Sprag clutches are interesting but heavy and also very tough to do right (very tight manufacturing tolerances).
  • 2 1
 @bogey: My mistake, a stealth would be my choice but they're pricey Smile
  • 4 1
 I'm with 26"
  • 1 1
 I'll wait to see what the real world pricing settles at after discounts and such. Then maybe I'll think about them. Look interesting, but not $1120 for Al rims interesting.
  • 1 1
 All this marketing spin is useless unless they answer the most important question when it comes to hub selection... How loud is it?
  • 1 0
 So can I buy just a hub? Or does this cost me the price of a new wheelset?
  • 1 0
 when i saw the hub body volume i was expecting it to be an IGH.
  • 3 3
 Hopefully your hub isn't as shit as your bb's lads. CRC just replaced two of mine under warranty with Saint ones.
  • 1 0
 I guess I-9 has 64 teeth?
  • 2 1
 28h once again. Is there a 32h option?
  • 2 2
 Given you can order a set of DT Swiss 240's laced to flow mk3 for ~$600 landed, these wheels just don't compute.
  • 1 0
 having just broken my 10th carbon rim, I'll buy these mofos for $1000 easy
  • 1 0
 looks awesome, but that pricetag is ridiculous... how many spokes?
  • 1 0
 ok, just found the answer on their homepage... 28
  • 1 0
 So where can we buy them?
  • 1 0
 30mm internal 29er at 1800 grams? Nice.
  • 1 1
 These hubs look like toys compared to my 12+ year old Kings that are still good as new.
  • 7 7
 it was all looking good, until i saw the lack of 26"
  • 12 4
 No 24" either.... where are we going these days? Wink
  • 1 2
 @Happymtbfr: 24" enduro is all about suffering)
  • 4 2
 @sayrius: you tell me! Smile
Last time I had 24" wheels was when I was 13...
  • 3 0
 I thought 157 boosty boost was the new latest trendy thing. Get those spokes apart.

Construction and bearings look pretty standard (which I guess is good), reminds me of SRAM hubs.

Doesn't this next bit read like resume fluff?:

"The over-sized hub shell provides opportunity for performance gains: increased rear drive torsional stiness by up to 20%"

You mean shell diameter increased overall drive stiffness by 20%? I'd think the spokes would dominate.
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 Nope, spank oozy.
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 Too expensive:/
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 Dear Wendy and Rob. Perhaps proofing your copy would be a good idea?
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 They're praw duct is love you long time
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 I was pumped until I realized these aren't dh wheels. DH is dead
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 Pumped? like actually? Were you really actually pumped about a yet another boring wheelset or was it a slightly tenuous pun? And how is DH dead when it's viewing figures are higher than they've ever been? Did you type this whole comment whilst asleep?
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 @deadmeat25: Pumped because I can get deals on RF and I would like a quality wheelset, there is plenty of competitive products, but I may not find the same discount.

When I say DH is dead, despite my own leanings heavily towards dh and dh specific bikes, in my local market Enduro has taken a lions share of our market, including equally if not more enduro events than dh events/races.

Locally used DH bikes are hard to sell and are commanding 30% lower resale value than before, whilst enudro bikes have high resale values. Our local trek store had to sell session 9.9's for $3600 brand new to get them off the floor.

Nationwide if not globally we are seeing far more products come to market centered around enduro, whilst DH products are going stagnant and DH bikes aren't even selling well.

When I say DH is dead, I mean the push for ingenuity and progressive engineering is on a rapid decline; based on sales numbers, i don't blame them.
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 I think Raceface or somebody is earning too much money to give a shit tbh.
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 I don't think the big money in this world is in bike parts.







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