The first three stages of racing have concluded at the Nevados de Chillan stop of the Enduro World Series, with Jared Graves taking the lead for the men, and Anne Caroline Chausson coming out ahead for the women. Three more stages will take place tomorrow, and it's possible that the steep and technical sixth stage could be the deciding factor for who will emerge the winner on Sunday afternoon.
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Jared Grave's Yeti SB66 after the finish of day 1.
"Hey Cedric, how did you prepare for this season of EWS racing?" "Well, you know, after smashing my %^&ing pelvis and following up with almost %^&*ing bleeding to death I decided to just drink a few beers and %^&* all the ladies Jerome could have had if he didn't train so much."
Dude, Graves could podium here on a Yeti DJ or 4X or whatever the hell their dirt jump bike is called. The bike doesn't matter, the fact that Graves is the best rider in the world is the thing that matters
Totally agree it's about the rider more than equipment, but at this level there's no one guy way stronger than another. Graves and JC were back and forth all last year at times separated by seconds over multiple stages. Any measurable equipment advantage would show between guys this evenly matched.
Think about it, how often does 26 do well at world cup xc racing? 29 offers a clear advantage. The same would show in Enduro if 27.5 offered anything close to what 29 does for xc.
there is no clear advantage at this level. For your average weekend warrior, they might feel more comfortable on bigger wheels, but against the clock it tends to come out pretty even at the end.
This is the first round still and who knows what will happen at the end but it Is Ironic how this whole Enduro movement has helped fuel the fire for the 27.5 MTB industry and BOOM! right out of the gate, round one of the EWS Jared Graves with his 26'er sits on top.
I still ride 13' enduro 26'er but wouldn't be opposed to getting on a new Nomad!
Old saying... "It is not the arrow, it is the archer that truly matters." Great athletes will find a way to perform/compete so that they get on the top steps.
Or as stated in the last olympics by the Dutch speed skating coach about the Under Armour failure. "We have found something that makes the suit very fast, It's the man in the suit."
But hey... If you think any wheel size will make you faster - buy it. Always nice to have nice arrows.
Graves is a beast no doubt but after hearing nothing but how 27.5 is better than 26 for the last year it is nice to know that all of our 26 bikes can still perform great despite what the industry says.
If he keeps winning on 26, a lot of people are going to start scratching their heads and the wheel size debate will be turned upside down. I had wrongly assumed 650 would take over enduro and that 26 might still have a chance in DH.
An advantage of 26 in enduro is that you are less likely to crash and take yourself out of the overall.
I resent the word 'athlete' describing mtb racers, leave that for the dumb jock team sports. A lot of it is strength and endurance, but mostly refined skills.
The often used phrase "Olympic Athlete" covers competitors in just about every sport imaginable, up to and including curling.
I think you might be the only person ever who is hurt by the accusation of "athlete", According to your own words, what would you call a person with strength, endurance, and refined skills?
@ Nismo: What you are not considering is it is good to have a choice. 26" bike sales have been dropping yearly, and people have been buying 29ers. The 26" option wasn't going to survive. Would you rather ride 29ers, or 650b? You could look at this as the industry recognized the need for a wheel size smaller than 29", and kept one alive.
your average Joe is pushing sales of big wheels. it doesn't matter if every race from here on in is won on 26" bikes, the fact remains that it won't affect sales to a degree that will keep 26" on manufacturers' radars. different wheel sizes and new technology drives bike sales. if everyone stopped buying 29ers and bought 26" bikes then obviously companies will start pushing small wheels again.
@willie1 lol 26 inch bike sales have been dropping because they stopped making them not because demand isn't there. If you actually think that 26 is gone because no one wants it then all this marketing BS has worked on you for sure. I love how people say if we all stared buying 26 again it would come back but how do I keep buying 26 when no one makes if? This is a case of the industry making us switch.
If the sales are there, bike makers will sell it. That's a fact. Why keep something around if sales aren't there. There are TONS of people who like 26" (me too) but there are probably more who like bigger wheels. Maybe they just like new and different. In the US big wheels sell, small wheels don't. At least not to same degree. Lots of bike shops in the US can't give away 26" bikes anymore. That country is dictating the market. Your microcosm of bicycle needs might not be the same as what is going on in other places in the world.
WayneParsons: Do you think slanted marketing may have played a role in declining 26" sales?
29" marketing made us think 26" wheels hang up too much and roll too slow, now 27.5 marketing tells us 27.5 rolls over nearly as well while maintaining 26" agility. We have seen a concerted effort to highlight bigger wheels positives, while highlighting 26 wheels negatives. On top of that we've been told 26" will be fazed out scaring people out of buying new 26 stuff.
What do you think would happen to 26" sales if 2014 bikes were at least 1/3 26" and only the positive traits of 26" was highlighted while only highlighting the negative traits of bigger wheels?
@cofattire Totally agree. Sales and marketing the next big thing every year is a double edged sword in this industry. The good part is we get some really good, useful innovation from time to time. The bad is we get things that might not be needed shoved down our throats. The industry as a whole is guilty of this. They also are really pushing big wheels to increase sales no doubt about it.
I was ready to buy a 26" wheeled bike this year. I had stocked up on tires, built myself some wheels and everything. A 27.5" wheeled bike landed in my lap and I jumped on it. A 29er I wouldn't touch, but I have always seen a need for one. Like for example, huge guys on 29ers make a lot of sense. Small people, not so much.
Given that there are still good options for 26" wheeled bikes on the market, people are still buying bigger wheeled bikes. I would argue most of those people would be better off on 26" wheels.
@willie - of course 27.5 will win 2/3 (66%) of the stages when over 90% of the bikes in the fields are 27.5ers. What is amazing is that a 26er won 1/3 (33%) of the stages when less than 5% of the bikes in the field are 26ers.
nismo: Many manufacturers still have left over 26" frames in the warehouses LOL!!! I'll let you in on a secret. Bike companies sell bikes to make money. If they can sell something with minimal retooling and R&D, its easier to make money. switching to new standards costs money, and happens when old standards stop selling well.
As long as there is demand for 26 it will be around. But if none of the pros want it, I doubt a lot of consumers will want it.
Jared Graves and the Santa Cruz DH team are the last hope 26" wheels have to survive in the high end racing market, the weight of the 26" fans is on their shoulders.
This is a big year for the future of little wheels. Little wheels need to win some races or they face the all mountain and DH chopping block as all the big brands are trending towards 26.
hillclmbr, I never said your favorite 'athletes' are dumb, just team sports.
For the record, where I live in California we have a lot of rocky trails that are medium to high-speed and the 29" TallBoy LTc is so much faster that my 26" bike was it is ridiculous. 29" bikes have all of the GPS records around here
hllclimbr: I'm sure the tone will change about the same as it did when JC switched to 27.5. Graves will probably have no choice but to ride 27.5 eventually. The 66 has been dropped after all.
It seems to me the heated comments are not driven by whether 26 or 27.5 is faster, but by the fact we have been force feed the benefits of 27.5 while being told 26" is inferior.
I know you think it's all rider and equipment doesn't factor in, but MTB is man and machine, not barefoot running. Clearly there's no silver bullet wheel size even though we are being told 27.5 is just that.
I think equipment does matter, but all those guys (and gals) are on top end gear, with factory tuned shocks, XTR or XX1, and most on carbon rims and frames. A full 1" difference in wheel diameter just isn't going to be THE determining factor, imho, of course.
I have one 26" and two 29" bikes, and I can win a Cat 1 XC race on any of them, because I have what it takes to win races. Any particular bike isn't going to change the outcome. Horses for courses - I might not win on a 6" bike, regardless of wheel diameter.
I also have a broken Ventana singlespeed frame that I'm trading in on their replacement program for a hearty discount. I'm going to get their 160mm 27.5" frame for a go at Enduro™ , since that seems like the smart way to go.
I played soccer from elementary school up through college, and soccer players are apt to be just about the most intelligent group of sportsmen that one will find, team or no.
Hi Angryham, haven't seen you lately. You're more likely to crash on a bigger wheel bike because of the increased speed combined with less agility. Here is the formula I scientifically configured:
More speed + decreased reaction time = more crashes. Not to mention a slightly higher center of gravity. It's probably only a slight difference between 26 and 650, but when you get on the wagon wheels things are much more likely to go awry and end in carnage.
I'm sure there are some gentlemen soccer players but when I think of soccer I think of riots, urine bombs, threats against referees, decapitating referees heads, fans fighting fans, etc. A simple sport other than that.
A better question would be How many bike company's still make 26?. Not like these teams get to choose to go back to 26 haha who ever pays the bills picks the wheel size.
Little late but @Willie1 how many riders overall on 26" bikes? Your point is moot in this case. There were barely any athletes on 26" wheels yet one of the few who was crushed everyone.
Martin Maes won the first stage, and CG the last stage! Thats awesome, shows how competitive this field really is and that the speed within the mens field is with a lot of rider and not just a competition between a few for first!
Quick no one buy a sb66!! They are far to outdated. And you will hate your life for owning one... Nimble bikes rule! Not that I hate 650b or 29. I just find bandwagons annoying. And I enjoy having to use body english when I ride, So why would I want to give that up to be 3 seconds a mile faster on my un-timed trail rides? And my spare wheels and tires.. Yes if I needed a new bike I would probably vote with my dollar and go 26, but I plan to get a few more years out of my current ride. Will be interesting to see where 26 stands in 5 years time.
I think 26ers will settle in the same way high end hardtails have, lots of smaller brands selling low volume bikes to the obsessed whilst big brands sell lots of whatever the current 'more betterer' stuff to whoever. Individually none of them will sell that many bikes, collectively they'll sell a lot.
Just curious.. Are these mountains the same as the bike park Cedric helped to develop? I remember an article about that maybe 2 years back... Awesome results CG. Way to go Graves!
I'm assembling the SB66 I bought on a closeout/discontinued deal while simultaneously reading that day one of the EWS was won on the same bike. God, the industry is weird these days.
a much more interesting discussion than wheel size (yawn) would be what appears to be a great divergence between US and the rest of the world as to what enduro wil become. All over the world enduro looks like dh lite with climbing. Most US courses can be negotiated competitively on a hardtail.
Was thinking the same thing myself. I just looked at the EWS site and the race site itself and there is no updates or information newer than a weeks old........ for a "world series" that's a bit amateur hour...... my local events hav information posted live!? whats going on guys!?
location is pretty remote so I doubt the have the ability to post live updates - for the rest of the events at least last year you could follow them live for timing updates of each stage as they riders were arriving+ the twitter feed had all the race gossip we love so much...just wait till they get in cellphone/wifi range
Where's dan Atherton?
"Well, you know, after smashing my %^&ing pelvis and following up with almost %^&*ing bleeding to death I decided to just drink a few beers and %^&* all the ladies Jerome could have had if he didn't train so much."
Graves would have been in what place, if he were on 650B, in your opinion?
Think about that for a second, will ya?
The better athlete will win.
Happy, pedant?
(And ya, strange how comments are censored)
Think about it, how often does 26 do well at world cup xc racing? 29 offers a clear advantage. The same would show in Enduro if 27.5 offered anything close to what 29 does for xc.
The better athlete will still win.
Actually, the best current XC athlete, Nino Schurter, consistently wins on 650B, just like he did on both 26 and 29 inch wheels previously.
"It is not the arrow, it is the archer that truly matters."
Great athletes will find a way to perform/compete so that they get on the top steps.
Or as stated in the last olympics by the Dutch speed skating coach about the Under Armour failure.
"We have found something that makes the suit very fast, It's the man in the suit."
But hey... If you think any wheel size will make you faster - buy it. Always nice to have nice arrows.
I think you might be the only person ever who is hurt by the accusation of "athlete", According to your own words, what would you call a person with strength, endurance, and refined skills?
Why are participants in team sports dumb, btw?
29" marketing made us think 26" wheels hang up too much and roll too slow, now 27.5 marketing tells us 27.5 rolls over nearly as well while maintaining 26" agility. We have seen a concerted effort to highlight bigger wheels positives, while highlighting 26 wheels negatives. On top of that we've been told 26" will be fazed out scaring people out of buying new 26 stuff.
What do you think would happen to 26" sales if 2014 bikes were at least 1/3 26" and only the positive traits of 26" was highlighted while only highlighting the negative traits of bigger wheels?
I was ready to buy a 26" wheeled bike this year. I had stocked up on tires, built myself some wheels and everything. A 27.5" wheeled bike landed in my lap and I jumped on it. A 29er I wouldn't touch, but I have always seen a need for one. Like for example, huge guys on 29ers make a lot of sense. Small people, not so much.
Given that there are still good options for 26" wheeled bikes on the market, people are still buying bigger wheeled bikes. I would argue most of those people would be better off on 26" wheels.
I'm curious how the tone will shift when/if JG starts competing on the Yeti SB-67 that he's been testing.
Jared Graves and the Santa Cruz DH team are the last hope 26" wheels have to survive in the high end racing market, the weight of the 26" fans is on their shoulders.
This is a big year for the future of little wheels. Little wheels need to win some races or they face the all mountain and DH chopping block as all the big brands are trending towards 26.
hillclmbr, I never said your favorite 'athletes' are dumb, just team sports.
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It seems to me the heated comments are not driven by whether 26 or 27.5 is faster, but by the fact we have been force feed the benefits of 27.5 while being told 26" is inferior.
I know you think it's all rider and equipment doesn't factor in, but MTB is man and machine, not barefoot running. Clearly there's no silver bullet wheel size even though we are being told 27.5 is just that.
I have one 26" and two 29" bikes, and I can win a Cat 1 XC race on any of them, because I have what it takes to win races. Any particular bike isn't going to change the outcome. Horses for courses - I might not win on a 6" bike, regardless of wheel diameter.
I also have a broken Ventana singlespeed frame that I'm trading in on their replacement program for a hearty discount. I'm going to get their 160mm 27.5" frame for a go at Enduro™ , since that seems like the smart way to go.
I played soccer from elementary school up through college, and soccer players are apt to be just about the most intelligent group of sportsmen that one will find, team or no.
You're more likely to crash on a bigger wheel bike because of the increased speed combined with less agility. Here is the formula I scientifically configured:
More speed + decreased reaction time = more crashes.
Not to mention a slightly higher center of gravity. It's probably only a slight difference between 26 and 650, but when you get on the wagon wheels things are much more likely to go awry and end in carnage.
I'm sure there are some gentlemen soccer players but when I think of soccer I think of riots, urine bombs, threats against referees, decapitating referees heads, fans fighting fans, etc. A simple sport other than that.
And GO CG!!!!
Hahaha
Jeremy Arnould - got dammit! Tomorrow #PutInWork
Leov & Galy, doing good!
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This thing would be over already.
Jared is awesome.
Where is Manuel Ducci?..